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Title: How to make the big decision: gathering information as an M3


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How to make the big decision gathering
information as an M3?
  • Owen Phillips, MD
  • Associate Dean, Student Affairs

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As M2s
  • You have had a preceptor experience
  • You have had personal experiences
  • You may have preconceived notions- some may be
    true, some may be false
  • You need information

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CiM Four Year Timeline
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Reviewing your Careers in Medicine Protocol?
  • Visit the Careers in Medicine website?
  • www.aamc.org/careersinmedicine
  • www.aamc.org/students/cim
  • Did you get to know yourself by completing the
    self-assessment sections on the site?

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Discover your own CiM website
  • OLSEN on the UT COM page
  • Specialty Profiles
  • Departmental information-
  • Program director
  • Chair
  • Other faculty members willing to help
  • If you want more information

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Think back to the Critical factors
  • Autonomy
  • Caring for Patients
  • Continuity of Care
  • Diversity
  • Focus of Expertise
  • Innovative thinking
  • Intellectual Content
  • Interacting with other Physicians
  • Manual/Mechanical Activities
  • Pressure
  • Responsibility
  • Security
  • Sense of Accomplishment
  • Status among Colleagues
  • Patient Characteristics
  • Types of Illnesses

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Gathering Information
  • With that review, you know what you want in life
    and in medicine, its time to find what specialty
    will fit your needs
  • Go to the Specialty Profiles in the CiM website
  • This is a great place to start exploring your
    many choices.

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AAMC CiM Specialty Profiles
  • Nature of the Work
  • Personality Characteristics
  • Residency Requirements- what is required to get
    in
  • Match Data
  • Workforce Statistics
  • Compensation

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Its a start
  • You think you really like Peds but you also like
    procedures as well.
  • The specialty profile shows that procedures are
    very low in Peds
  • But this profile doesnt take into account
    neonatology, Peds cardiology, Peds ER and Peds GI
    which all are very high in procedures.

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Expand
  • Dont just evaluate one profile - do the same
    exercise with other similar profiles.
  • You may learn that you are a closer match to
    similar specialty than the one you first
    considered.
  • Also, make comparisons in specialties you never
    considered you may be surprised.

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Other Online Resources
  • AMA-Freida- AMAs Fellowship and Residency
    Electronic Interactive Database Access
  • Provides statistical information about each
    specialty, information about GME programs, and
    institutional offerings by specialty and
    geographic location.

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Be vigilant about your career choices
  • While an M3---
  • Talk to clerkship directors, residents,
    physicians you come in contact with
  • Try it on- tell people you are considering
  • Ask questions
  • Electives- UT gives flexibility to do some
    electives early
  • Be realistic

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Specialty Associations
  • Join the academies at reduced student rates
  • Visit specialty Web Sites AAP, AAOS, etc.
  • This and other information on your UT CiM site

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Personal Contact
  • Clerkships
  • Summer Experience
  • Faculty Mentors (see CiM website)
  • Private Practitioners
  • Residents
  • Friends
  • Be aware of the variable reliability of each
    source
  • There are many misconceptions out there!

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Surveying the Alternatives
  • Canvas and wide range of alternatives
  • Be open to new alternatives as you have different
    experiences on clerkships
  • Talk to the residents do you look like them do
    you like what they do?

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Try it on
  • Discuss your ideas with others
  • Just like trying on clothes
  • Dont commit too soon- it could make it harder to
    change your mind

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Inoculate yourself
  • After youve made your decision, review the
    negatives
  • This will inoculate you against overreaction and
    criticism to your decision
  • It will help you during negative experiences
    during residency

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Consider Alternatives Realities
  • Some specialties are hard to match into
  • Plastic surgery - Neurosurgery
  • Urology - Otolaryngology (ENT)
  • Dermatology
  • Orthopedics
  • AAMC- match information
  • Consult the program director, talk to me

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If I know I want to go into a particular
specialty, should I schedule that clerkship first
or last?
  • Two ways to look at it

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First or near the beginning of the third year
  • To see whether I do like it

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Last or near the end
  • In order to be experienced and excel
  • And to be fresher on everyones mind and nearer
    to residency recruitment time

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My experience
  • UT students are ready from the first clerkship
    and the excellent, interested students shine in
    the first rotation
  • Faculty and residents have good memories- if you
    are a good student, the impression of you will
    last

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I want to take as many third-year rotations in
Knoxville or Chattanooga as I can
  • Will this limit my ability to get into any
    residency programs

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Third-year rotations away
  • Knoxville and Chattanooga programs give excellent
    experience
  • Your residency choices will not be limited
  • We encourage students to take rotations at our
    other campuses
  • If you do your rotations in KN or CH, you can
    always do an M4 elective back in Memphis

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Any advantages to doing rotations at Chatt or
Knox.
  • Course directors from there will speak to that
  • Ask M4s who have had experience there
  • Some clerkships are community-based and give an
    educational experience that is really best for
    you

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Advantages
  • Smaller residency programs- usually 2-4
    residents/year
  • Faculty involvement may be private doctors who
    are affiliated with the residency
  • Patients may be private patients
  • May be more one on one with a faculty member

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M4 Away Rotations
  • Some residency programs are very competitive and
    you will need to do a rotation there to even be
    considered
  • It is a good way to get an insiders look at the
    program
  • The department chair should know the scoop on
    such programs and will be able to advise you.

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How to schedule away rotations
  • Talk to UT, Memphis chair or program director
  • Will need to get a signature on the UT form
    (available in the catalog)
  • Go to the websites of the outside colleges about
    procedure and contacts
  • Get this ball rolling in Jan. or Feb.

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M4 Away rotations
  • Pitfalls
  • If you dont shine while away, you may have
    done yourself harm
  • By the time you learn the new system, you may not
    match up to the home boys (or girls)
  • Got to get into Harvard

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What about fourth year electives here at UT
  • Again, discipline-dependent
  • For Ob, your best impression was as a third-year
    clerk. We would rather see you take dermatology
    or radiology than do an elective
  • For Orthopedics, you may need the visibility.
  • If you did your clerkship in Kn or Ch, you may
    wish to have Memphis exposure
  • You should ask

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Should I have research on my CV to be competitive
  • Some programs are requiring research in the field
    to be competitive

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Research
  • Difficult to do meaningful research during
    third-year
  • Programs where this an issue are the competitive
    fields Otolaryngology, Urology, Neurosurgery
  • Find a professor-level faculty member and ask for
    advise (CiM website has research mentors listed)

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Ask for advice
  • Thinking it is either Peds or Med-Peds
  • Talk to the clerkship director or another faculty
    member
  • Will help you sort out your thinking process or
    suggest opportunities that will help (a shadowing
    experience in a private office)

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Ask for advice
  • Pretty sure its Med-Peds
  • But have some questions about my competitiveness
    and need to stay in Memphis
  • Talk to the program director

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Ask for advice
  • Once you have committed to a specialty, you
    should talk to the chair of the department call
    the office and make an appointment. Email may not
    be best
  • You will need a chairs letter for your ERAS
    application.

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What about the residency interview process
  • May- Strolling through the Match- an orientation
  • We will talk about
  • When and how to schedule deans letters
  • Other letters of reference
  • Preparing a personal statement
  • Preparing your CV
  • The timeline

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The Process
  • Early matches- neurology, ophthalmology, urology
  • August- Early match applications due,
  • interviews in Sept-Dec.
  • October-For the rest, applications due
  • interviews- Nov-Jan

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M3
  • Work hard
  • Pay attention
  • Have fun
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