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Title: Attitudes and the Spiritual Life-033 09-23-07

Attitudes and the Spiritual Life-03309-23-07
  • The Enneagram and The HAMs
  • Religious HAM Strategies -
  • The 8, 9 and 1

The 8-9-1 Strategies
  • The HAM (Happiness Attainment Motivator) in the
    lives of the 8. 9 and 1 is Religion.
  • This religion might be a named religious belief
    system, an alternative to traditional religions,
    such as Atheism or Philosophy, or something they
    would never identify as Religion, such as
    Psychology or Science,
  • No matter what it is, it is these people, the 8,
    9, and 1, who are motivated by their beliefs.

The 8-9-1 Strategies
  • Center 8-9-1 is referred to as the instinctive or
    gut center.
  • The predominant motive in the lives of these
    numbers is Religion, and Anger is the primary
    Emotional Sin.
  • The anger is expressed differently in all three
    cases, but anger it is.
  • An angry Eight blocks out thinking, or thinks in
    caricatures a compulsive One tends to see black
    and white only and Nines tend to get fuzzy or
    have long rambling introductions to a point
    easily overlooked.

The 8-9-1 Strategies
  • They have a different approach than thinkers,
    they have an intuitive "gut feeling" way of
    making their way through life.
  • They can have "writer's block", or have trouble
    expressing themselves verbally.
  • Their processing of verbal or written information
    can be slow, but they also are often highly
    intuitive - making correct concrete decisions
    quickly and easily.

The 8-9-1 Strategies
  • They tend to be preoccupied, positively or
    negatively with the physical aspects of life.
  • Eights, for example, prefer direct, outward
    solutions to problems.
  • Nines tend to express emotions physically.
  • They would say "my flesh crawls" instead of "I
    get uneasy," and their flesh might well goosebump.

The 8-9-1 Strategies
  • Ones tend to be polarized against their own
    sensuality, having strong sensual urges, but
    denying them and getting critical of people or
    places that encourage sensual expression

The 8-9-1 Strategies
  • The Eight's Religious attention goes to issues of
    power and control, to making things happen, to
    protecting the weak, and to fighting Injustice.
  • With an intense, authoritative, and sometimes
    explosive energy, they are usually ready to face
    any challenge.
  • They know what is right and wrong, fair and
    unfair (Justice).

The 8-9-1 Strategies
  • The Nine's Religious attention goes to connecting
    with others, maintaining harmony, peace, and
    comfort, and avoiding conflict.
  • They typically enjoy the feeling of ease,
    harmony, and peace that they experience in nature.

The 8-9-1 Strategies
  • The One's Religious attention is
    Righteousness/Perfection and goes to appreciating
    the excellence and elegance in anything such as a
    shape, musical score, a piece of art or a speech
    to noticing and correcting errors to identifying
    and adhering to standards of perfection in
    thought, feeling and behavior to acting
    according to what is right or wrong and to
    judging and criticizing oneself and others.

The Eight
  • People of enneatype Eight are essentially
    unwilling to be controlled, either by others or
    by their circumstances they fully intend to be
    masters of their fate, to "take charge," to do
    whatever needs to be done.
  • Eights are competitive, strong willed, decisive,
    expansive, practical, and tough minded.
  • They want to be the hand of God, or God
    himself, of their Religious belief system.
  • Remember that the 6, 7 and 8 group was concerned
    with Power, so the 8 is the transition from Power
    to Religion and combines the two.

The Eight
  • Eights typically have an enormous amount of
    energy and frequently have powerful physical
    appetites. There is an unapologetically expansive
    quality to the physical presence of the type
    Eight personality. Eights generally don't have to
    announce their presence for others to know they
    are there. The central problem for individuals of
    enneatype Eight is that the need to avoid being
    controlled can manifest in the need to control,
    the need to be "in charge," the compulsion to

The Eight
  • This can lead to all sorts of practical
    difficulties, as the world is not always liable
    to conform to the dictates of the Eight's will,
    but the deeper problem for the Eight is that the
    need to avoid any semblance of being controlled
    can rob the Eight of the fluidity, receptivity
    and acceptance that is generally necessary to
    live a full, balanced and truly happy life.

The Eight
  • Eights often experience life as a struggle for
    existence in which only the fittest survive.
  • Life thus dictates competition from the point of
    view of the Eight, and Eights naturally intend to
    be the ones who survive.
  • They typically adopt a survival strategy that
    involves either a rise to the top of the existing
    hierarchy, or an "opting out" altogether of the
    current system and its structures of power.

The Eight
  • Eights of the former sort are typically found in
    positions of leadership, whether it be of their
    own family, company or political party.
  • Eights of the latter sort tend to be independent
    contractors, free-lancers of all sorts, and even
    outlaws - those who, in other words, exist
    outside of the accepted framework of civil
    society and its often artificial system of rules
    and obligations.

The Eight
  • Eights of both basic tendencies need to feel
    financially independent, and while most Eights do
    manage to find some means of making peace with
    their society, they always retain an uneasy
    association with any hierarchical relationship
    which does not position the Eight at the top.

The Eight
  • While some Eights adopt something of the "lone
    wolf" persona, most Eights have quite a number of
    social connections, whether to family members,
    friends or business connections.
  • Eights are very much present in the world and are
    frequently extroverts.
  • True intimacy however does not come easily or
    naturally to Eights.
  • Soft and tender emotions tend to make Eights feel
    "weak," and, more to the point, intimacy requires
    Eights to lower their defenses and thereby become

The Eight
  • Vulnerability, in turn, triggers the Eight's fear
    of being controlled.
  • Thus, intimate relations are often the arena in
    which the Eight's control issues are most
    obviously played out.
  • Questions of trust assume a pivotal position.
  • Eights tend to test their intimates to see if
    they are worthy, to see if they can be trusted
    not to betray the Eight's confidence.
  • Betrayal is absolutely intolerable to Eights and
    any hint of it can provoke a powerful retaliatory

The Eight
  • Type Eight exemplifies the desire to be
    independent and to take care of oneself.
  • Eights are assertive and passionate about life,
    meeting it head on with self-confidence and
  • They have learned to stand up for themselves and
    have a resourceful, "can-do" attitude.

The Eight
  • Eights are looking, ideally, both for someone
    they can respect and someone they can protect, a
    paradoxical combination to be sure, but, while
    the Eight's loneliness can only be assuaged by
    finding an equal, the Eight's feelings of
    vulnerability can best be assuaged if they know
    that their intimates depend on them.

The Eight
  • While Eights do not trust easily, if they do
    admit someone into the inner sanctum, they
    generally prove to be stalwart friends and
    steadfast allies.
  • Not all Eights do form truly intimate
    relationships however, as some Eights are simply
    unwilling or unable to compromise their sense of

The Eight
  • Eights are often prone to anger, one of the few
    feelings they allow themselves to feel in its
    pure form.
  • As mentioned, the experience of tender emotions
    such as compassion, love, sorrow, melancholy and
    pity can cause the Eight to feel vulnerable.
  • Anger, on the other hand, embodies a feeling of
    being in opposition to the world and, at least as
    the Eight experiences it, a sense of the
    importance of overcoming that opposition.

The Eight
  • In the Eight's experience of anger, ego
    boundaries are consolidated, the world kept in
    opposition, and the Eight focused on domination.
  • Some Eights consider "morality" to be just one
    more means by which society attempts to exert
    illegitimate control over them.
  • (Its not Fair (Justice) that you dictate
    (Power) what is right and wrong for me, they

The Eight
  • It is, they reason, the weapon that the
    constitutionally weak use to keep the naturally
    strong "in line."
  • Eights, like counterphobic Sixes, are suspicious
    of rules, and often take an oppositional stance
    to authority.
  • But, as Eights are generally strategic, they
    seldom take on a battle they know they cannot win.

The Eight
  • Their rebellion and lack of respect for "the
    rules" therefore, is often camouflaged.
  • While Eights tend not to respect external systems
    of rules, they often have their own internal
    sense of right and wrong, which consists of
    personal loyalties and freely chosen commitments.
  • These the Eight will fight to protect.
  • Eights are often said to have an internal sense
    of "justice," and it is true that Eights are
    acutely aware of the ways in which power is used
    and abused.

The Eight
  • When unhealthy, they are perfectly willing to
    misuse power however.
  • Only the strong survive, and whoever gets in the
    Eight's way might have to be sacrificed to the
    Eight's ambition.
  • Healthy Eights however develop a generosity of
    character which is almost the direct opposite of
    the unhealthy Eight's selfish self-assertion.
  • Healthy Eights, those Eights who have developed
    the capacity to love, are among the most generous
    character types in the Enneagram.

The Eight
  • Martin Luther King should be considered in this
  • He found power in restraint and strength in
  • Unhealthy Eights, on the other hand, are the most
    brutal of the enneatypes.
  • Unhealthy Eights are bullies who enjoy
    intimidating those whom they see as weak and who
    feel little compunction about walking over anyone
    who crosses their path.
  • They are crude, brutal, dangerous and grotesquely
    insensitive to the feelings of others.

The Eight
  • An element of sadism frequently enters the
    picture, sadism being a clear and obvious
    manifestation of the attempt to attain power by
    means of domination and humiliation a weakness
    posing as strength.

The Eight
  • In the traditional Enneagram, the passion of type
    Eight is said to be "lust."
  • This should not be confused with the insistent
    desire to enjoy the pleasures of the senses,
    sexual or otherwise, which is more characteristic
    of the gluttony of type Seven.
  • The lust of type Eight has an expansive quality
    to it - rather than the need to "take in," the
    lust of type Eight manifests in the need to push
    outwards- to assert the self in order to attain
    the objects of desire.

The Eight
  • As with the passions of all the enneatypes, the
    term should not be read in its narrow or
    conventional sense, and the lust of type Eight
    need not manifest sexually.
  • When it does, the Eight often finds it difficult
    to marry the often enormous desire for purely
    physical gratification with the more tender
    emotions of love and compassion, and herein lies
    one of the keys to understanding why the passion
    of type Eight might be considered a vice or sin.

The Eight
  • Whether the passion of lust manifests sexually or
    not, it involves a quality of self-assertion, a
    tightening of the ego boundaries, a stance that
    is often oppositional between the Eight and the
  • What the Eight primarily desires is power...power
    sufficient to insulate the Eight from ever being
    vulnerable or weak.

The Eight
  • Eights with a Seven wing tend to be more
    expansive extroverted and openly aggressive than
    those with the Nine wing.
  • They are more likely to be sensation seekers and
    are generally more overtly ambitious than those
    with a Nine wing.
  • Eights with a Seven wing especially tend to
    relish intensity of experience.

The Eight
  • Conversely, Eights with a Nine wing hold more of
    their energy in reserve and exhibit more of a
    grounded, even stubborn quality.
  • They are generally less obviously volatile than
    Eights with a Seven wing but can slip just as
    radically into open aggression when pushed.

The Eight
  • The ancient world seems to have provided a
    fitting stage for type Eight energy and many of
    the key military figures of antiquity have been
    Eights - Alexander, Julius Caesar, Hannibal,
    Attila and Emperor Chin to name just a few
    notable examples.
  • They murdered millions.

The Eight
  • Naturally, given the nature of the type Eight
    fixation, many of the world's most influential
    modern leaders have also been Eights Franklin
    Delano Roosevelt, Winston Churchill, Josef
    Stalin, Mao Tse Tung, Fidel Castro, Martin Luther
    King Jr., Golda Meir, Indira Ghandi and Lyndon

The Eight
  • "While Lyndon Johnson was not, as his two
    assistants knew, a reader of books, he was, they
    knew, a reader of men--a great reader of men. He
    had a genius for studying a man and learning his
    strengths and weaknesses and hopes and fears, his
    deepest strengths and weaknesses what it was
    that the man wanted--not what he said he wanted
    but what he really wanted--and what it was that
    the man feared, really feared.

The Eight
  • "He tried to teach his young assistants to read
    men--Watch their hands, watch their eyes he
    told them. Read eyes. No matter what a man is
    saying to you, its not as important as what you
    can read in his eyes--and to read between the
    lines more interested in mens weaknesses than
    in their strengths because it was weakness that
    could be exploited, he tried to teach his
    assistants how to learn a mans weakness.

The Eight
  • "The most important thing a man has to tell you
    is what he isnt telling you, he said. "The most
    important thing a man has to say is what hes
    trying not to say. For that reason, he told
    them, it was important to keep the man talking
    the longer he talked, the more likely he was to
    let slip a hint of that vulnerability he was so
    anxious to conceal.

The Eight
  • Thats why he wouldnt let a conversation end."
    Busby explains. If he saw the other fellow was
    trying not to say something, he wouldnt let it
    (the conversation) end until he got it out of
    him. And Lyndon Johnson himself read with a
    genius that couldnt be taught, with a gift that
    was so instinctive that a close observer of his
    reading habits, Robert G. (Bobby) Baker, calls it
    a sense

The Eight
  • "He seemed to sense each mans individual price
    and the commodity he preferred as coin. He read
    with a novelists sensitivity, with an insight
    that was unerring, with an ability, shocking in
    the depth of its penetration and perception, to
    look into a mans heart and know his innermost
    worries and desires. (From Robert Caro's Lyndon

The Eight
  • General George Patton and George C. Scott, the
    actor who famously played him, were also Eights.
    Other actors include Shelley Winters, Bette
    Davis, Charlton Heston, Frank Sinatra, Siney
    Poitier and John Wayne.
  • On the American scene more recently, Eights
    include Donald Rumsfeld and Dick Cheney. Senator
    John McCain is also an Eight. Also the former
    senator, Ann Richards.

The Eight
  • Also television "personalities" Dr.Phil, Nancy
    Grace and Paula Dean. And, of course, "The
  • Fictional Examples include Star War's Darth Vader
    and Lucy from the comic strip Peanuts.

The Eight - Mistypes
  • Eights and Ones can both be dominating and
  • Both are drawn to leadership roles.
  • Typically it is the more passionate and visceral
    type One who is mistaken for the Eight - Rudi
    Giuliani being a case in point, or Osama bin
  • But Ones dominate in service to an ideal and are
    more rule bound than is the Eight, who is
    typically a law unto himself.

The Eight - Mistypes
  • Twos are more likely to be mistyped as Eights
    than the converse, and even that mistype is
    likely to occur under a narrow set of
  • While it is true that Twos can be quite bossy,
    Twos are primarily emotionally centered whereas
  • Eights repress the more tender emotions.
  • Twos are needy Eights self-sufficient to a
  • Twos are manipulative Eights are direct.
  • Twos are soft Eights are hard etc.

The Eight - Mistypes
  • Eights and Threes are both competitive, and both
    can be dominating and drawn to leadership roles,
    but Threes are fundamentally concerned with
    receiving external validation, something which is
    almost entirely foreign to enneatype Eight's
  • Threes want to be admired Eights want respect,
    even if it is grudging.
  • Threes are much smoother and conciliatory than
    Eights, something which seems compromising from
    the standpoint of type Eight.

The Eight - Mistypes
  • A mistype between Eight and Four is generally
    unlikely, but a Four with Three, especially one
    with a sexual/social instinctual stacking could
    conceivably be mistaken for an Eight.
  • Eights, on the other hand, should not be mistaken
    for Fours.
  • Fours are generally far more comfortable
    expressing their emotions than are Eights, and
    are especially more comfortable with expressing
    vulnerability, even if they do sometimes do it an
    a paradoxically aggressive fashion.

The Eight - Mistypes
  • Eights can be mistyped as Fives when they are
    especially intellectual.
  • Fives can be mistaken for Eights when they are
    especially self-confident, as they sometimes are
    in their own areas of expertise.
  • Both types are independent and place a premium on
    the avoidance of displays of vulnerability.

The Eight - Mistypes
  • But an examination of the fundamental themes of
    their lives should reveal the stark underlying
  • Fives are sensitive and are susceptible to
    overwhelm and energy depletion Eights have an
    expansive physical presence, are frequently
    insensitive, and are more likely to overwhelm
    others than to be overwhelmed themselves.

The Eight - Mistypes
  • Eights and counterphobic Sixes can quite easily
    be mistyped, and it is not uncommon for
    counterphobic Sixes to mistype themselves as
  • Both types can be ambitious, competitive and even
  • In addition, both types tend to have issues with
  • But there is a much more reactive, volatile,
    unpredictable quality to the aggression of
    counterphobic Sixes than there is to the
    generally more strategic aggression of type Eight.

The Eight - Mistypes
  • Moreover, there is generally a more personal
    quality to the aggression of type Six than there
    is to the more goal oriented aggression of type

The Eight
  • Eights and Sevens can be mistyped, especially if
    the wing is especially strong.
  • Both types can be sensation seekers who love
  • Both types can be competitive and overwhelming.
  • But as a general rule, Sevens find focusing to be
    quite challenging whereas focus comes naturally
    to Eights.
  • Sevens have a lighter approach to life and
    generally have a quick nervous, mental energy
    which contrasts with the more grounded
    instinctual energy of type Eight.

The Eight
  • Eights and Nines might possibly be mistyped,
    especially, once again, if the wing is
    particularly strong.
  • But Nines are generally conflict avoidant,
    especially in close personal relationships,
    whereas Eights often enjoy a good fight.
  • Nines struggle with self-assertion whereas
    self-assertion comes naturally to Eights.
  • Nines have to avoid being overwhelmed by others
    Eights have to avoid being overwhelming.

The Eight
  • 8s are determined to be self-reliant and free to
    pursue their own destiny.
  • Thus, Eights are natural leaders honorable,
    authoritative, and decisive, with a solid,
    commanding presence.
  • They take initiative and make things happen,
    protecting and providing for the people in their
    lives while empowering others to stand on their

The Eight
  • They embody solidity and courage, using their
    talents and vision to construct a better world
    for everyone depending on the range of the
  • Most of all, Eights are people of vision and
  • They can take what looks like a useless,
    broken-down shell of a building and turn it into
    a beautiful home or office or hospital.

The Eight
  • Likewise, they see possibilities in people, and
    they like to offer incentives and challenges to
    bring out people's strengths.
  • Eights agree with the saying "Give a person a
    fish and they eat for a day. But teach them how
    to fish, and they can feed themselves for life."
    Eights know this is true because they have often
    taught themselves "how to fish."
  • They are self-starters and enjoy constructive
    activitybuilding up themselves, others, and
    their world.

The Eight
  • Eights occasionally take on big challenges to see
    if they can pull off the impossible or turn a
    hopeless cause into a great success.
  • But they generally do not do so unless they are
    fairly sure that the odds are on their side and
    that they will have the resources to pull off a
    "long shot" and make it look easy.
  • Others look to them in times of crisis because
    they know that Eights are willing to make tough
    decisions and to take the heat if things go wrong.

The Eight
  • Honor is also important to Eights because their
    word is their bond.
  • When they say "You have my word on this," they
    mean it.
  • Eights want to be respected, and healthy Eights
    also extend respect to others, affirming the
    dignity of whomever they encounter.
  • They react strongly when they see someone being
    taken advantage of or treated in a demeaning or
    degrading manner.

The Eight
  • They will step in and stop a fight to protect the
    weak or disadvantaged or to "even the score" for
    those who they feel have been wronged.
  • Similarly, Eights would not hesitate to give up
    their seat on the train to an old or sick person,
    but they would have to be dragged away bodily if
    anyone tried to make them give it up without
    their consent.

The Eight
  • Nothing much about Eights is half-hearted.
  • They have powerful feelings and drives and often
    have a major impact on the people around themfor
    good or for ill.
  • Eights are more intense and direct than most, and
    they expect others to meet these qualities as
  • Indirectness of any kind drives them crazy, and
    they will keep pushing and raising their energy
    level until they feel that others have
    sufficiently responded to them.

The Eight
  • Many Eights have some kind of a dream for
    themselves and their "inner circle," and being
    the practical-minded people that they are, this
    often involves money-making projects, business
    ventures, philanthropy, and the like.
  • They may start and run their own business or set
    someone else up in a situation or simply play the
    state lottery on a regular basis.
  • Not all Eights have a lot of money, but most are
    looking for some kind of "big break" that would
    give them the independence, respect, and sense of
    power that they typically want.

The Eight
  • They can also be highly competitive, enjoying the
    challenges and risks of their own enterprises.
  • They are hard-working and pragmatic"rugged
    individualists," and wheeler-dealers who are
    always thinking of a new angle and constantly
    have a new project underway.

The Eight
  • Less healthy Eights can become extremely
    controlling, self-important, confrontational, and
    highly territorial.
  • They may respond to others by swaggering and
    being willful, bluffing and "throwing their
    weight around" in various ways.
  • Average Eights are full of bluster and bravado to
    get people to fall in line with their plans,
    desires, and although if they encounter
    resistance, they will try to control and dominate
    people more openly and aggressively.

The Eight
  • Whether they are running a multinational
    corporation or a family of two, they want it
    understood that they are firmly and clearly in

The Eight
  • In brief, Eights want to be self-reliant, to
    prove their strength and independence, to be
    important in their world, to have an impact on
    their environment, to have the unquestioned
    loyalty of their inner circle, and to stay in
    control of their situation.
  • Eights do not want to feel weak or vulnerable, to
    feel out of control, to be dependent on others,
    to have their decisions or authority questioned,
    to lose others' backing, or to be surprised by
    others' unexpected actions.

The Eight
  • Their Hidden Side
  • Eights present a tough, independent image to the
    world, but under their bravado and layers of
    armor, there is vulnerability and fear.
  • Eights are affected by the reactions of those
    closest to them far more than they want to let
  • They often expect that others will dislike or
    reject them, and so they are profoundly touched,
    even sentimental, when they feel that someone
    they care about truly understands them and loves

The Eight
  • Eights may learn to harden themselves against
    wanting or expecting tenderness, but they are
    never entirely successful.
  • No matter how tough, even belligerent, they may
    become, their desire for nurturance and
    connection can never be put entirely out of

The Eight
  • Coping strategy
  • As children, Eights often lived in combative
    environments where weakness was punished and they
    had to be strong to survive.
  • As a result, Eights tend to lead with a strong
    and potent self-presentation and to hide or deny
    their own vulnerability.

The Eight
  • Major traits
  • Eights can be impulsive, excessive, dominant, and
    protective of others.
  • They often move into action before thinking
    things through, express their anger more easily
    than the other types, and confront situations
    more readily than others.
  • They seek the truth, but may confuse objective
    reality or truth with their own personal reality
    or beliefs.

The Eight
  • Strengths Eights tend to be strong, powerful,
    commanding, energetic, and intense.
  • Challenges They can also have difficulty
    containing their own energy and anger, be
    controlling, and be unaware of their own
  • Generally, Eights are strong, assertive,
    resourceful, independent, determined,
    action-oriented, pragmatic, competitive,
    straight-talking, shrewd, and insistent.

The Eight
  • Eights get into conflicts by being blunt,
    willful, domineering, forceful, defiant,
    confrontational, bad-tempered, rageful, cynical,
    and vengeful.
  • At their best, Eights are honorable, heroic,
    empowering, generous, gentle, constructive,
    initiating, decisive, and inspiring.

Football is an Eight Paradigm
  • On Super Bowl Sunday America celebrates
  • Football is an eight paradigm.
  • To begin with, each team wears matching jerseys,
    so the field is recognizably divided into good
    guys and bad guys.
  • This kind of emotional clarity resembles the mind
    of an entranced eight.

Football is an Eight Paradigm
  • Eights live in a hostile world and eights are
    fiercely loyal to those they love and want to
  • Secondly, eightishness is about power.
  • "Smash-mouth football," as it is referred to, is
    an eight trademark.
  • Eights look for power in all situations.
  • In a hostile world you have to know who is
    powerful and who isn't.

Football is an Eight Paradigm
  • Many eights will start fights, verbal or
    physical, just to find out the strength of their
  • If you stand strong in one way or another, you
    earn an eight's respect.
  • If you are weak, no amount of goodness or
    placating or appeal to authority will endear you
    to them.??
  • Eights are fiercely loyal, especially in combat,
    so they make fine teammates.

Football is an Eight Paradigm
  • You can count on them to give it their all.
  • And in combat, another characteristic shows up
    they frequently have extremely high pain
  • Nobody can play injured like an eight.
  • They pride themselves on not showing or giving
    into weakness or pain.?

Football is an Eight Paradigm
  • Eights, unless they have an unusually strong
    connection to five, focus their attention
  • They like their power physical, not mental or
    artistic, so football suits them well.??
  • Football teams often develop fierce rivalries.
  • Eights do, too.
  • People who oppose them can become objects of
    obsessive hatred. (Think of Rush Limbaugh's
    obsession with the Clintons, especially Hilary).

Football is an Eight Paradigm
  • This obsession reduces the enemy to nothing but
    evil, without nuance, differentiation or
    redeeming feature.
  • The high side of the obsession, of course, is the
    fanatic loyalty to the team.
  • In times of trial, you want an eight on your
  • Eights have an inner need to be strong.
  • Regardless of the situation, an eight feels an
    inner responsibility to be strong enough to
    handle the situation.

Football is an Eight Paradigm
  • This quality makes them ultra-responsible at
    times, and can become unreasonable.
  • They can make exorbitant demands on their body,
    for example, driving themselves to get control of
    a situation, a business or a relationship.??
  • All enneagram styles are control strategies, and
    an Eight prefers the tactic of getting you to
  • Football is pleasing to them because there is no
    doubt about who won.
  • Whoever has the most points is stronger and is in

Football is an Eight Paradigm
  • Sportsmanship trophies are not awarded or wanted.
  • Just answer this "Who is number one?"??
  • Eights inflate their presence.
  • They can fill up a room with their expansive
  • This expansion is in service of protecting the
    soft inner self within.
  • As with a 280 pound lineman, approach an eight
    with gentleness.
  • Many women with type Eight husbands describe them
    as pussy-cats beneath that bluff exterior is a
    child in need of protection.

Football is an Eight Paradigm
  • An Eight friend of one of the Enneagram authors
    broke into tears several times while reading
    about eights in an enneagram book. At first he
    was shocked, but it makes sense--the author
    didn't attack, he appealed to their inner sense
    of justice.??
  • Which leads us back to the Superbrawl.
  • It is not a brawl.
  • They play by strict rules and eights like it that

Football is an Eight Paradigm
  • They want fairness.
  • One reason they are hostile is that they see the
    world as hostile and unfair.
  • When eights are entranced they seek vengeance
    instead of justice, but when healthy they
    appreciate justice a great deal.
  • The referees know all the players want a fair
    game when the atmosphere is this eightish.

Football is an Eight Paradigm
  • The Sicilian defense department, or mob as it is
    usually called, came into being precisely because
    the immigrants were not getting justice from the
    police and juridical system.
  • Most gangs are eightish in their energy and they
    see themselves as having to defend themselves
    against a system rigged against them.

Football is an Eight Paradigm
  • Teamwork is healthy for eights. When eights are
    entranced, they turn their power to protect their
  • The glory hog who doesn't help the team doesn't
    last long in football and everyone connected with
    the game admires modesty, especially among the
    talented who could play more for themselves.
  • Giving up one's body for the team is considered a
    highly virtuous act.

Strategy 8 - Confrontational
  • The Angry Eight
  • Ty Cobb was an eight. (Self-preservation subtype)
  • In the movie he has all the degenerate
    characteristics of an unhealthy eight and only
    several of the redeeming virtues.??
  • Cobb played baseball as thought it were war.
  • That's a hallmark of an eight.

Strategy 8 - Confrontational
  • Eights live in a world in which hostility is to
    be expected and is to be dealt with forthrightly.
  • In Cobb's life that meant hurting whomever he
    could on the base paths, pistol-whipping a man to
    death, amassing wealth and probably shooting his
    own father.??
  • The movie has consistent psychological and
    physical violence and is vulgar throughout.
  • Many eights are vulgar.

Strategy 8 - Confrontational
  • One author said, I'll never forget the fine
    Christian woman married to a minister who asked
    me if she were an eight.
  • I asked if she, although sweet and proper as a
    minister's wife must be, ever used profanity.
  • She burst out laughing and told me several
    stories of her bursts of profanity.
  • Profanity and vulgarity are the kinds of language
    we all use when we're angry.

Strategy 8 - Confrontational
  • Unhealthy Eights are always angry so they use the
    vocabulary of rage.??
  • Eights' anger is in defense of an unacknowledged
    inner softness.
  • They feel they can't share their inner softness,
    so they frequently take care of the small and
    helpless among us.
  • Even Cobb, who is portrayed as systematically
    unashamedly vicious, took care of one of his old
    baseball buddies who had a drinking problem.

Strategy 8 - Confrontational
  • You'll notice how Cobb didn't like any
    acknowledgment of his weaknesses.
  • He was furious that he had become impotent, he
    hated walking with a cane and when he went to the
    Cooperstown Hall of Fame induction, he accepted
    help surreptitiously so as not to be noticed as
    having any need.

Strategy 8 - Confrontational
  • Cobb tried, feebly, to make friends the way
    unhealthy eights do.
  • They put pressure on the person, and if the
    person fights back, then the eight can trust.
  • If the person does not fight back, then they are
    not to be trusted.
  • In the movie, whenever the wimpy sportswriter
    would muster his courage and fight back, Cobb
    would be appreciative. That's in character for an

Strategy 8 - Confrontational
  • In a really hostile world, you want strong people
    with you -- that's the thinking of an eight.??
  • When eights are angry, they reduce enemies to a
    cartoon caricature.
  • When desiring sex, Cobb wanted sex and conquest,
    not intimacy.
  • When he wants sex, he wants it for proof of his
    sexual power, so he reduces the women to certain
    vulgar terms.

Strategy 8 - Confrontational
  • In contemporary times, Rush Limbaugh, an eight,
    referred to Hilary Clinton (on the David
    Letterman show) as looking "like a hood ornament
    on a Pontiac."
  • Rush doesn't disguise his wholehearted dislike,
    perhaps even hatred, for Hilary, so he sees her
    as a cartoon, in two dimensions.

Strategy 8 - Confrontational
  • Rage is blind, and eights often cannot see when
    they get angry.
  • Some eights cannot hear when they get angry.
  • They seem to be physically deaf.
  • This prevents them from getting feedback in a
    relationship if anger occurs.
  • But after all, one doesn't dialogue with an
    enemy, one attacks.

Strategy 8 - Confrontational
  • If this relationship is intellectual or social,
    one tries mightily to convince while not
    listening to the other side at all.
  • However, a display of force, either physical or
    mental, will get the eight's attention.
  • Then you can talk to them.
  • They can listen if force accompanies your words.

Strategy 8 - Confrontational
  • Cobb hated everyone who was different Jews,
    Catholics, Blacks, Italians (always referred to
    as dagos) - the list was rather comprehensive.
  • Unhealthy eights have lot of enemies and make no
    bones about it.??
  • Eights have no time for sham.
  • Cobb put it this way "Life is too short for
  • They prefer confrontation.
  • Their approach is "Don't talk them into it, just
    force them."

Strategy 8 - Confrontational
  • When you listen to Limbaugh, you get that same
    clarity produced by selectivity and
  • Things must be changed ("The Way Things Ought to
    Be.") and the bad people are in control, let's
    throw the bums out. Part of the reason eights
    appear to be so honest is that they tend to be
  • They reduce all grays to black and white.
  • You're an enemy or you're a friend.
  • There are no middle areas.

Strategy 8 - Confrontational
  • Eights would like to issue uniforms to everyone
    so it is clear who is on their side and who is on
    the other side!
  • John Wayne is a famous eight and his movies were
    never complex psychological teasers.
  • It was bad vs good and John was not about to
    endure bad guys surviving.

Strategy 8 - Confrontational
  • Cobb is a drastically unhealthy eight. Healthy
    eights are wonderful friends --they are loyal and
  • Eights populate a lot of social action community
  • They do not allow injustice and will work
    endlessly to see justice done.
  • They are also expansive, generous and energetic
    and make wonderful party friends!