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Title: Chapter 10: Deep Worship

Chapter 10 Deep Worship
  • Who are students becoming when we lead them in
  • Worship can become a tool of oppression when
    leaders see it as an opportunity to control
    others or push their own agendas
  • Identity formation is one of the transformative
    processes that takes place through the mystery of
  • Its not the goal worshipping God is but its
    something that does happen to us and in us when
    we worship

  • Individuation is an experience revolving around
    identity, autonomy, and belonging
  • Reflecting on Gods redemption means were doing
    theology when we worship
  • Worship becomes a transformational acting-out of
  • As adults who care about kids, we help guide
    students away from the cultural baggage theyve
    accumulated and toward the heart of their
    God-created identity in Christ

  • A key question How is God forming a new identity
    among this specific people, in this specific time
    and place?
  • Survey
  • -How important to you is being a part of a group
    of people who regularly worship God together?
  • -What have you grown to understand about
    yourself, other, your church, and God through
    worshipping with others?
  • -Why do you worship with others?
  • Students long to know the answer to the question
    does it matter if I show up?

  • Ritual
  • Practicing liturgy invokes acts of remembrance, a
    key theme of the biblical worship narrative
  • Rites of passage that recall Gods activity are
    important teaching tools in worship that speak a
    new identity into believers lives

  • A few warnings
  • Self-discovery is never the point of our worship
  • Glorifying God must remain our central focus
  • (Yet as we glorify God, we will inevitably learn
    about ourselves)

  • 3 Who questions
  • 1.What are some ways others are applying these
    new insights to their ministries?
  • 2. In what ways are their situations similar
    to ours?
  • 3. In what ways are they different?

Application Questions
  • What do you think your students are learning
    about God and themselves from your current
    worship experiences and services? What is good
    about what theyre learning? What do you wish
    they were learning?

Application Questions
  • What rituals do you have that are particularly
    meaningful in worship? What do you think students
    are learning about themselves through these
    rituals? What ideas do you have about other
    rituals that could help students go deeper in
    their worship and personal growth?

Chapter 11 Deep Expectations
  • Why am I exhausted so much of the time, and what
    can I do about it?
  • There are three clusters of expectations for
    pastors now that are different than most other
  • 1. We can do it all
  • 2. We are the perfect examples
  • 3. We are always happy

  • Leaders and youth workers with Superpastor
    tendencies often feel the following
  • You cant rest (or at least youre very bad at
  • You want to be the best, and youre jealous of
  • You take a while to shake off criticism
  • You have few real friends, especially in your
  • You place pressure on your spouse and kids

  • Omni-temptations
  • 1. Omnipresence
  • 2. Omniscience
  • 3. Omni-giftedness

Sabbath and self-care
  • Quotes from Dallas Willard, The Spirit of the
    Disciplines Understanding How God Changes Lives
    (San Francisco Harper, 1991).

  • One aspect of formation is the faithful
    acceptance of everyday problems. By enduring
    trials with patience, we can reach an assurance
    of the fullness of heavens rule in our lives.
  • The second side of our triangle in interaction
    with Gods Spirit in and around us.

  • Both gifts and fruits are the result, not the
    reality, of the Spirits presence in our lives.
  • We are to find out, that is, what prevents and
    what promotes mercifulness and kindness and
    patience in our souls, and we are to remove
    hindrances to them as much as possible, carefully
    substituting that which assists Christ-likeness.

  • We will come to understand that for the most
    part our hurry is really based upon pride,
    self-importance, fear, and lack of faith, and
    rarely upon the production of anything of true
    value for anyone.
  • The abundance of God to our lives, our families,
    and our ministries is not passively received or
    imposed and does not happen to us by chance.

  • It is claimed and put into action by our active,
    intelligent pursuit of it. We must seek out ways
    to live and act in union with the flow of Gods
    Kingdom life that should come through our
    relationship with Jesus.
  • What is Sabbath? Biblically, it is mainly a day,
    once a week, when we do not work.

  • Very practically, Sabbath is simply casting all
    your anxiety on Him, to find that in actual fact
    He cares for you (1 Peter 57 see also Psalm
    373-8). It is using the keys to the Kingdom to
    receive the resources for abundant living and
  • Three practices or spiritual disciplines are
    especially helpful in making Sabbath real in the
    midst of our life solitude, silence, and

  • For most of us, Sabbath will not become possible
    without extensive, regular practice of
    solitudewe must not take our work with us into
    solitude, or it will evade us-
  • Silence completes solitude, for without it you
    cannot be alone.
  • When we stop talking, we abandon ourselves to
    reality and to God.

  • You rarely find any person who has made great
    progress in the spiritual life who did not at
    some point have must time in solitude.
  • Fasting is another long-proven way of finding
    out way into Sabbath, where we live and do our
    work from the hand of God.
  • Fasting is one way of seeking and finding the
    actual Kingdom of God present and active in our

  • God does not give you too much to do. If you are
    over-worked you either did it to yourself or
    allowed others to do it to you.
  • What will be your approach in ministry to
    assuring that you have an adequate Sabbath to
    maintain spiritual health?
  • What will this mean as far as your calendar
    priorities for your ministry?

Application Questions
  • If you were on trial and accused of being a
    Superpastor, what evidence would people use
    against you? Do you think youd be convicted?
  • How do you feel when you think about the fact
    that God is the great I AM and youre the great
    I AM NOT?

Application Questions
  • Which of the omnis is the greatest temptation
    for you? Why do you think that is?
  • As you think about stepping out of the
    Superpastor Syndrome, how do you think your life
    or your ministry needs to change so you can go

Chapter 12 Deep Focus Groups
  • In the midst of busyness and crazy expectations,
    how can we maintain deep ministry?
  • The question is what is it that will keep us
    from living and ministering with the same
    metaphorical mud in the same allegorical slum?
  • What will keep us from returning to the shallow
    ways of youth ministry as weve always done it?

  • Imagination
  • Newness
  • The God we serve is relational
  • He models what it means to engage in this
    creative process with others
  • The Trinity

  • Focus groups
  • Some basic and established focus-group
  • 1. Figure out the goal and scope of your focus
  • 2. Determine who youll invite
  • 3. Find one or two facilitators
  • 4. Develop your questions
  • 5. Have someone review your questions in advance

  • 6. Choose an appropriate setting and atmosphere
  • 7. Start the meeting well
  • 8. Listen. Listen. Listen. Probe. Probe. Probe.
  • 9. Process by asking What? So What? Now What?
  • 10. Share the results

Application Questions
  • Do you ever wish you could just figure out the
    right depth for your ministry, get there, and
    then stay there until you retire? What is
    appealing to you about that? What makes it
  • What ministry issues are percolating in your mind
    that you think could be addressed through focus
  • Whom would you want to invite?

  • Who would be a good facilitator and
  • What specific questions would you like to ask?
  • How would you like to share the findings and with
  • What makes the Deep Design process a wild swim?
    Are you ready to try it? If not, what obstacles
    do you still need to overcome? If so, what are
    some good initial steps?

  • The Like Jesus But Not the Church
  • - Dan Kimball
  • Why I dont like this title
  • Kimball and his ministry

  • The world has changed dont be a weakling!
  • No longer are Christians and ministers the good
    guys in films and in the media. Most church
    leaders now actually feel embarrassed to tell
    people they are pastors. Some even choose titles
    other than pastor so they are dismissed by people
    outside the church. Some people arent even
    comfortable they are a Christian but come up with
    new terms such as Christ follower to avoid
    negative and distorted associations.

  • The world has changed dont be a weakling!
  • Do some research and see what percentage of high
    schoolers remain part of your church after
    graduation. You may get a sobering wakeup call.
  • American culture no longer props up the church
    the way it did, no longer automatically accepts
    the church as a player at the table in public
    life, and can be downright hostile to the
    churchs presence.

  • I probably wouldnt like Christians if I werent
  • Christians are now the foreigners in a
    post-Christian culture, and we have to wake up to
    this reality if we havent.
  • Do you agree with this statement? Why or why not?

  • The world has changed dont be a weakling!
  • What does it mean for the church to missional?
  • Cf. p. 20 in Kimball
  • Overview of presentations