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Title: 2ND THESSALONIANS


1
2ND THESSALONIANS
  • CHAPTER 2
  • Verses 1-8
  • The Thessalonians were afraid!
  • WHY?

2
WHAT WAS THE REASON FOR 2nd THESSALONIANS
CHAPTER 2
  • 2 Thessalonians 22 That ye be not soon shaken
    in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor
    by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the
    day of Christ is at hand.
  • Was it because the Thessalonian believers had a
    fear that the Day of the Lord had begun?
  • Remember the question in the opening slide
    subtitle?

3
WHAT WAS THE QUESTION?
  • QUESTION WHY WERE THE THESSALONIANS AFRAID? Was
    it because they thought the Day of the Lord had
    begun? If so, WHY SHOULD THAT BOTHER THEM?
  • IT WOULD NOT BOTHER ME!
  • Im sure the Thessalonians were at least as
    strong in their belief as I am, and probably
    stronger. So why were they afraid?

4
SERIOUSLY!
  • If I were to find out that I had to go through
    the Day of the Lord, (a time when there will be
    great trouble here on earth)
  • I would be excited!!!! Because that would mean
    that Christs coming was just around the corner!
  • I dont think the Thessalonians were any less
    committed than I am so why would the possibility
    that the The Day of the Lord had begun, scare
    them?

5
BEFORE WE ANSWER
  • that question. I want to remind you all of
    something.
  • Proverbs 252 It is the glory of God to conceal
    a thing but the honour of kings is to search out
    a matter.
  • God conceals things. BUT

6
IT IS THE HONOR OF KINGS TO SEARCH THEM OUT
  • Anybody got a king handy? I need some help with
    scripture.
  • Revelation 1916 And he hath on his vesture and
    on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND
    LORD OF LORDS.
  • Jesus Christ is King of Kings and Lord of Lords.
    If he is King of Kings then.

7
WHO ARE THE KINGS
  • he is king over? Answer
  • Revelation 15-6 And from Jesus Christ, who is
    the faithful witness, and the first begotten of
    the dead, and the prince of the kings of the
    earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from
    our sins in his own blood,
  • And hath made us kings and priests unto God and
    his Father to him be glory and dominion for ever
    and ever. Amen.

8
SO YOU ARE A KING!
  • Jesus Christ has made you a king and priest of
    God, our Father.
  • So God now has millions of kings and priests, and
    over these kings, is the King of kings, Jesus.
  • Wanna know what else?

9
THOUGH GOD HIDES THINGS
  • We are fortunate!
  • Why? Because
  • Amos 37 Surely the Lord GOD will do nothing,
    but he revealeth his secret unto his servants the
    prophets.

10
GOD DOES NOTHING
  • without revealing it to his servants, the
    prophets! Period!
  • Therefore, there is nothing hidden that we cannot
    find out
  • and we, as Gods kings, are empowered to find
    out the things God has hidden! So on to
    Thessalonians

11
2ND THESSALONIANS 21,2
  • 1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of
    our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering
    together unto him,
  • 2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be
    troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by
    letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is
    at hand.

12
2 Thessalonians 23, 4
  • 3 Let no man deceive you by any means for that
    day shall not come, except there come a falling
    away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the
    son of perdition
  • 4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all
    that is called God, or that is worshipped so
    that he as God sitteth in the temple of God,
    shewing himself that he is God.

13
2 Thessalonians 25, 6
  • 5 Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you,
    I told you these things?
  • 6 And now ye know what withholdeth that he might
    be revealed in his time.

14
2 Thessalonians 27, 8
  • 7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work
    only he who now letteth will let, until he be
    taken out of the way.
  • 8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom
    the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his
    mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of
    his coming

15
OKAY, WE BEGIN 2 Thess 21
  • Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of
    our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering
    together unto him,
  • Lets see what Paul means when he says beseech,
    above.
  • First the English dictionary

16
MERRIAM WEBSTER
  • Beseech
  • 1 to beg for urgently or anxiously 2 to
    request earnestly IMPLORE
  • Implore
  • 1 to call upon in supplication BESEECH 2 to
    call or pray for earnestly ENTREAT

17
HOW ABOUT THE GREEK?
  • The word beseech is translated from the Greek
    word erotao
  • 2065 erotao er-o-tah'-o
  • Meaning 1) to question 2) to ask 2a) to
    request, entreat, beg, beseech
  • Origin apparently from 2046 cf 2045
  • Usage AV - ask 23, beseech 14, pray 14, desire
    6, intreat 1 58

I like to check out origins
18
Origin apparently from 2046 cf 2045
  • 2045 ereunao er-yoo-nah'-o erotao
  • Meaning 1) to search, examine into
  • Origin apparently from 2046 (through the idea
    of enquiry) TDNT - 2655,255 v
  • Usage AV - search 6 6
  • NOW LETS LOOK AT 2046

19
Origin apparently from 2046 cf 2045
  • 2046 ereo er-eh'-o
    erotao
  • Meaning 1) to utter, speak, say
  • Origin probably a fuller form of 4483, an
    alternate for 2036 in cert. tenses v
  • Usage AV - say 57, speak 7, tell 4, speak of 2,
    call 1 71
  • NOW LETS LOOK AT 4483

20
Origin probably a fuller form of 4483
  • 4483 re,w rheo hreh'-o
  • Meaning 1) to pour forth, to utter
  • Origin for certain tenses of which a prolonged
    form ereo er-eh'-o, is used, and both as
    alternate for 2036, perhaps akin (or ident.) with
    4482 (through the idea of pouring forth) v
  • Usage AV - speak 12, say, speak of 3, command
    1, make 1 26

21
BESEECH IN FULL BLOOM
  • All definitions and nuances.
  • ENGLISH to beg urgently, anxiously, to implore,
    to call and pray for earnestly.
  • GREEK to question, ask, request, entreat, beg,
    to search or examine into, to speak, utter, or
    say in a pouring forth.

22
WE DRILL A LITTLE FURTHER
  • 2 Thessalonians 21 Now we beseech you, brethren,
    by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by
    our gathering together unto him,
  • Next, we focus on the word, by.
  • Whenever we do something by something, that
    something is the standard, the litmus test.
  • For example, when we do something by the
    numbers, or by the book.

23
THE STANDARD
  • The subject, the standard, the benchmark, that we
    are going to measure everything in the 2nd
    chapter of Thessalonians by is
  • 2 Thessalonians 21 Now we beseech you, brethren,
    by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by
    our gathering together unto him,

24
AS IS APPROPRIATE
  • the subject of chapter two is introduced in the
    first verse. That subject is
  • 1. the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ,
  • AND
  • 2. our gathering together unto him,

25
WE WOULD SAY
  • Today Im going to talk to you about.
  • The subject is introduced before we begin
    speaking on the body of that subject.
  • God is no different.

26
SO THE SUBJECT IS
  • 1. the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ,
  • AND
  • 2. our gathering together unto him,

27
DEFINITELY TWO ITEMS
  • 1. the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ,
  • 2. our gathering together unto him,
  • Now these two items could be two aspects of the
    same event, or two different events separated in
    time.

28
LET ME EXPLAIN
  • and here, I am going to be forced to take a
    side road, not because I want to, but because, as
    with any important bible truth, such as the
    gathering together, or rapture of the church, and
    Christs 2nd coming, mischief, obfuscation, and
    confusion abound.
  • First, there are three main views as to the
    timing of our gathering together unto him,
    i.e., the rapture, and the second coming of
    Christ. A fourth view came into prominence during
    the 1990s.
  • I will briefly explain and demonstrate these four
    views with some assisting illustrations.

29
FIRST, THE MILLENNIUM
  • The word millennium, is derived from two Latin
    words, milus, which means a thousand, and
    annum, meaning year. Literally, a one thousand
    year period.
  • Scholars refer to a period that Revelation
    predicts will occur in the future, following
    Christs 2nd coming as, the millennium

30
REVELATION
  • Revelation 201-3
  • 1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven,
    having the key of the bottomless pit and a great
    chain in his hand.
  • 2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old
    serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound
    him a thousand years,
  • 3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut
    him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should
    deceive the nations no more, till the thousand
    years should be fulfilled and after that he must
    be loosed a little season.

31
MORE REVELATION
  • Revelation 204 and I saw the souls of them
    that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and
    for the word of God, and which had not worshipped
    the beast, neither his image, neither had
    received his mark upon their foreheads, or in
    their hands and they lived and reigned with
    Christ a thousand years.

32
STILL MORE
  • Revelation 205-7 5 But the rest of the dead
    lived not again until the thousand years were
    finished. This is the first resurrection. 6
    Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the
    first resurrection on such the second death hath
    no power, but they shall be priests of God and of
    Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand
    years. 7 And when the thousand years are
    expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,

33
SO THERE IS THIS PERIOD
  • still future, that is a thousand years in
    duration, during which, Satan will be bound not
    allowed to roam.
  • The first resurrection will have taken place at
    the beginning of the thousand years. This is why
    scholars place the thousand years after, or
    starting right at, the second coming of Christ.
    Why again, you may ask?

34
BECAUSE, AS WE READ
  • The thousand years begins with the first
    resurrection, and it is Christ who performs this
    first resurrection, so he has to be returned as
    these resurrected people are going to live and
    reign with him.
  • Where!
  • On earth!

35
SO GODS WORD
  • places Christs second coming right at, on, or
    just before, the beginning of the prophesied one
    thousand year period, this period being called
    often the millennial reign of Christ.
  • Graphically it would look like the next slide.

36
THE MILLENIUM
Note My own research confirms a seven day week
from Adam to the end of time, therefore I firmly
support the seven one-thousand year days from
Adam until the end of Christs millennial reign
which is then followed by a new heaven and new
earth, beginning an eighth day that has no end
(eternal), or as some rabbis call it, a time of
not counting. This truth of the seven days is
demonstrable by some obvious and some not so
obvious scriptures, however, proving that truth
is outside the scope of this effort. That said,
no harm is done by my illustrations because
whether you support such a doctrine or not, the
historical fact that almost two thousand years --
or, 2 days, depending upon your understanding --
have passed since Christs ascension and
Pentecost until the present is unarguable.
Further, Revelation is clear - as we have seen in
our previous verses - that there is a period up
ahead of us, prophetically speaking, of one
thousand years in length. Therefore, my
illustrations can at least be helpful in
depicting the last two thousand years, and the
coming millennium.
37
PRE POST or A choo!
  • There are three prominent views of the
    millennium the thousand year period that we have
    been discussing.
  • 1. 1st view is PRE-MILLENIALISM
  • 2. 2nd view is POST-MILLENIALISM
  • 3. 3rd view is A-MILLENIALISM

Note I will often hyphenate a word, not because
spelling requires it, but because I want to make
a distinction.
38
1st VIEW PRE-MILLENNIALISM
  • The premillenialist view is this essentially
  • That the rapture of the church, the judgements of
    Revelation, the antichrist, Armageddon, and the
    second coming of Christ, must all have already
    have occurred, or at least be coincident with the
    beginning of the thousand years (the millennium).
    And most importantly, that the thousand years
    (the millennium) is still future to us. There is
    more but Im just giving the basics.

39
2nd VIEW POST-MILLENNIALISM
  • The postmillennialist view is essentially this
  • That the thousand years (the millennium) has
    already happened that the thousand years began
    counting two thousand years ago, and that we are
    now living in a period which is
    post-pastmillennial.

40
3rd VIEW A-MILLENNIALISM
  • The amillenialist view is this
  • That there is no literal thousand year reign of
    Christ. That rather, the millennium, and
    Revelations references to such a period, are
    allegorical, and that the church reigns presently
    on earth in proxy for Christ.

41
FOR OBVIOUS REASONS
  • I hold to the premillenialist position as it
    fits scripture when scripture is viewed in a
    literal sense and the prophecies are not
    allegorized away. History confirms that the
    thousand year reign of Christ has not occurred
    yet, not to mention that scripture indicates
    Satan is bound during this thousand year period.
    World conditions indicate that Satan is still
    active, not bound.

42
SO I/WE ARE PREMILLENNIALIST
  • That is, we believe that the thousand-year
    millennium is still future to us, and is a
    prophecy yet to be fulfilled.
  • That said, we must now deal with a period
    commonly called, the Great Tribulation, or the
    70th week of Daniel chapter nine, a prophetic
    seven year period which is still future to us.

43
THE GREAT TRIBULATION
  • is a time that will be like no other period in
    history.
  • Matthew 2421-22 21 For then shall be great
    tribulation, such as was not since the beginning
    of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
    22 And except those days should be shortened,
    there should no flesh be saved but for the
    elect's sake those days shall be shortened.

44
THE GREAT TRIBULATION
  • has obviously not occurred yet, but when will
    it occur? Since the great tribulation is marked
    by, and ends with, judgment and scholars place
    the second coming of Christ at the end of this
    seven year period, right before, or right at, the
    beginning of the one thousand year millennium
    then
  • the Great Tribulation (believed to be seven
    years in duration) ends, just as the millennium,
    or final thousand years begins at the 2nd coming.

45
AND IT LOOKS LIKE THIS
46
7 YEAR TRIBULATION
  • Has it happened yet?
  • Matthew 2421 For then shall be great
    tribulation, such as was not since the beginning
    of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
  • No!

47
SO THE TRIBULATION
  • is future
  • Therefore we are
  • Pre-tribulational a-n-n-n-n-d
  • Pre-millennial
  • Both the seven-year Great Tribulation and the
    thousand-year millennium are future to us.

48
NOW, WE NEED TO GO A LITTLE DEEPER
  • Because though all pre-millennialists agree that
    the thousand year millennium is still future to
    us, and that Christ's 2nd coming is still future
    to us
  • They disagree as to the timing of the gathering
    together, variously called the catching away,
    or rapture. We must have the seven year
    tribulation in view as we consider the various
    rapture views.

49
CONCERNING THE RAPTURE
  • There are three prominent views, and a fourth not
    so prominent but more recent view (CIRCA 1990),
    as to when the rapture will occur.
  • Each view has its dogged proponents, faithful
    supporters, who will readily point out how wrong
    the other views are.

50
1st A WORD ON THE WORD
  • rapture.
  • Before we get all exercised about the use of the
    word rapture, and its lack of presence in the
    bible, I would like to mention a few salient
    facts.
  • Jeromes translation of the Hebrew and Greek
    scriptures into Latin, known as the Vulgate,
    occurred following an order from Pope Damasus I,
    in 382 AD.

51
RAPTURE contd.
  • Jerome translated the following verse from the
    KJV
  • 1 Thessalonians 417 Then we which are alive
    and remain shall be caught up together with them
    in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air and
    so shall we ever be with the Lord.
  • Using the Latin word rapiemur, which means a
    catching or snatching away. In our verse above,
    the English words caught up are translated from
    the Greek word harpazo, which means the same
    thing, to catch or snatch away.

52
JUST A LITTLE MORE ARCANE INFORMATION ON RAPTURE
  • Jeromes choice of the Latin rapiemur gives me
    no particular heartburn as it does mean, as we
    said, to catch or snatch away.
  • Furthermore, rapiemur is the indicative passive
    future plural form. The present tense, active
    form in Latin is rapere, from which the word
    rapture is derived. It means to snatch, grab,
    or carry off.
  • (see http//en.wiktionary.org/wiki/rapere).
  • Sounds like rapture to me. But you know what,
    if you want to call it the rapture, the gathering
    together, the great snatch, the catching up, or
    even the abduction of the church, Im not going
    to get all twisted, as long as you understand the
    significance of the event and no one is harmed or
    misled by your choice of words.
  • Okay, enough of this digression within a
    digression. Lets get back to understanding the
    four views of the tribulation.

53
THE FOUR VIEWS
  • The four views as to when the rapture occurs, in
    relation to the seven-year Great Tribulation are
  • 1. The pre-tribulation rapture
  • 2. The mid-tribulation rapture
  • 3. The post-tribulation rapture
  • 4. The pre-wrath rapture

54
1st THE PRE-TRIBULATION RAPTURE
  • and it looks like this

NOTE Pre-tribulation rapture beliefs vary
somewhat as to whether the rapture happens some
unknown period of time prior to the start of the
seven year tribulation, or whether it happens
right at the start of the seven years and may
even trigger the start of the seven year
tribulation. Point is, all agree that the rapture
precedes the Great Tribulation and these folks
would therefore be pre-tribulational in their
view.
55
A WORD ABOUT IMMINENCY
  • I was always told that the reason that I could
    never be successful in discovering the timing for
    the rapture of the church was because of
    something called the doctrine of immanency.
  • The doctrine known as immanency essentially
    rests on the belief that Christ could have
    returned at any time in church history from the
    next day after Pentecost up to, and including,
    our present moment.

56
THE PRE-TRIBULATION RAPTURE with a twist
The doctrine of immanency represents that the
rapture could have occurred any time from
Pentecost until the present, and anytime in the
future, prior to the Great Tribulation.
57
MORE ON IMMINENCY
  • I found, in my research, that the doctrine of
    immanency is a contrivance. It exists no where in
    scripture clearly stated but rather, is assembled
    through inference.
  • There is no such word in the bible, nor words to
    that effect.
  • In the interest of not taking our current
    subject, the Thessalonians fear, to far afield, I
    am not going to deal with immanency here. Suffice
    to say that careful examination will demonstrate
    the fallacy of the doctrine of immanency. Nuff
    said.
  • (If you have questions on immanency ask me)

58
NOW THE MID-TRIBULATION RAPTURE
  • We have covered the 1st position,
    pre-tribulation, now here is the 2nd.
    Mid-tribulation rapture. This view has the
    rapture occurring half way through the seven
    years.

59
THE POST-TRIBULATION RAPTURE
  • The 3rd view, post-tribulationalism, has the
    rapture occurring simultaneously with the 2nd
    coming. And following the seven years when they
    end.

60
THE REDHEADED STEPCHILD
  • 4th view, the pre-wrath rapture why?
  • Revelation 151 And I saw another sign in
    heaven, great and marvellous, seven angels having
    the seven last plagues for in them is filled up
    the wrath of God.
  • Revelation 161 And I heard a great voice out of
    the temple saying to the seven angels, Go your
    ways, and pour out the vials of the wrath of God
    upon the earth.

61
SO WHY PRE-WRATH?
  • Romans 59 Much more then, being now justified
    by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath
    through him.
  • 1 Thessalonians 110 And to wait for his Son
    from heaven, whom he raised from the dead, even
    Jesus, which delivered us from the wrath to come.
  • 1 Thessalonians 59 For God hath not appointed
    us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord
    Jesus Christ,

62
SO WHEN IS THE PRE-WRATH RAPTURE?
The pre-wrath position is a view that sees the
church being raptured at a time that precedes the
2nd coming of Christ by some months. That period
of a few months is the period where Gods wrath
via the bowls and vials are poured out upon the
earth. The pre-wrath view envisions that the
wrath to come that we have been saved from is
Gods wrath, and Gods wrath is not poured out
until the final months of the seven year
tribulation. Any wrath prior to that is Satans
wrath. A side note The seven year period
commonly called Daniels 70th week and the Great
Tribulation needs a slight correction in our
understanding. While Daniels 70th week is in
fact seven years in length, the Great Tribulation
itself is the final, or last, three and one half
years of that seven year period. See next slide.
63
THE GREAT TRIBULATION IS NOT SEVEN YEARS
Briefly, it goes like this Dan 927 has the
Abomination of Desolation taking place in the
midst of the final 70th week, i.e., the final
seven years still future to us. The Abomination
of Desolation is described by Paul in 2 Thess.
24 as being the man of sin sitting in the
temple. Jesus said in Matthew 2415 that the
Abomination of Desolation spoken of by Daniel,
standing in the temple, would be the trigger
event which starts the The Great Tribulation,
as it is called, for Jesus says when this
abomination happens, he says in verse 21 For
then shall be great tribulation. So simply put,
THE tribulation does not begin until the man of
sin enters the temple and proclaims himself God,
and that does not happen Daniel says until the
middle of the final seven years, therefore, only
the final three and one half years comprise the
Great Tribulation, not the whole seven.
The Great Tribulation
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THATS THE BASICS OF THE VARIOUS RAPTURE BELIEFS
  • Now that you have somewhat of a mind picture of
    the possible scenarios for the rapture, lets get
    back to 2 Thessalonians 2 1-8, and Pauls reason
    for writing this section.
  • The next slide is a repeat of an earlier slide so
    that we may get back on track with our intended
    subject.

65
DEFINITELY TWO ITEMS
  • 1. the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ,
  • 2. our gathering together unto him,
  • 2 Thessalonians 21 Now we beseech you, brethren,
    by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by
    our gathering together unto him, the second by
    is implied

66
First question is
  • are these two phrases two aspects of one event?
    Or, are they two distinct events? The answer lies
    in performing our due diligence in the scriptures
    with respect to research. The kind of thing that
    kings do.
  • The answer is set in concrete, but more on that
    in a moment. For now, lets look at our next
    verse.

67
Paul beseeches by Christs coming and the rapture
  • that they quit getting all shook up.
  • 2 Thessalonians 22 That ye be not soon shaken
    in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor
    by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the
    day of Christ is at hand.

68
MOST SCHOLARS AGREE
  • that the NASB has the best and most accurate
    translation for this verse as it reads
  • NASB 2 Thessalonians 22 that you may not be
    quickly shaken from your composure or be
    disturbed either by a spirit or a message or a
    letter as if from us, to the effect that the day
    of the Lord has come.
  • The Thessalonians thought the day of the lord was
    currently going on, NOT that it was just about to
    start. They thought they were in it!

69
BACK TO THE KJV
  • 2 Thessalonians 22 That ye be not soon shaken
    in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor
    by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the
    day of Christ is at hand DAY OF THE LORD HAS
    COME.
  • Whenever there is error in my thinking I find
    these two conditions in varying degrees shaken
    in mind and troubled.

70
SHAKEN IN MIND
  • 4531 saleu,w saleuo sal-yoo'-o
  • Meaning 1) a motion produced by winds, storms,
    waves, etc 1a) to agitate or shake 1b) to cause
    to totter 1c) to shake thoroughly, of a measure
    filled by shaking its contents together 2) to
    shake down, overthrow 2a) to cast down from one's
    (secure and happy) state 2b) to move, agitate the
    mind, to disturb one
  • To be shaken in mind is a momentary state.

71
TROUBLED
  • 2360 throeo thro-eh'-o
  • Meaning 1) to cry aloud, make a noise by outcry
    1a) in the NT, to trouble, frighten 1b) to be
    troubled in mind, to be frightened, alarmed
  • Origin from threomai to wail v
  • To be troubled in mind is more ongoing. The
    initial shock of an event may be over, but we
    have a continuing affect when we are troubled.

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PAUL LOVINGLY BESEECHES
  • the Thessalonians to not be shaken or troubled,
    no matter the source of information, be it
    spirit, word as in prophecy, or letter, that
    the Day of the Lord had begun.
  • What is Paul going to use to get rid of their
    shaken, troubled, minds? The truth! Error in
    our thinking results in doubt, and doubt leads to
    worry and fear, and fear results in our inability
    to be at peace. Instead, we may find ourselves in
    the conditions the Thessalonians experienced
    being shaken and troubled.

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WHAT IS THE ANSWER TO ERROR -- RIGHT DOCTRINE!
  • So Paul set about correcting their doctrine,
    which subsequently corrects their thinking.
  • 2 Thessalonians 23 Let no man deceive you by
    any means for that day shall not come, except
    there come a falling away first, and that man of
    sin be revealed, the son of perdition

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PAUL STRESSES
  • 2 Thessalonians 23 Let no man deceive you by
    any means
  • What were the means that had been used to deceive
    them? One, or some, combination of the following.
  • 2 Thessalonians 22 That ye be not soon shaken
    in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor
    by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the
    day of Christ is at hand.

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NOW! THE MEAT OF THE MATTER
  • 2 Thessalonians 23 Let no man deceive you by
    any means for that day shall not come, except
    there come a falling away first, and that man of
    sin be revealed, the son of perdition
  • Please notice the words that day shall not
    come

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HOW IMPORTANT IS THAT STATEMENT?
  • that day shall not come
  • That statement is HUGE, for it goes directly to
    the Thessalonians problem! They were deceived
    into thinking the Day of the Lord HAD come!
  • No other statement is this section goes right to
    the problem like, that day shall not come.
  • Again, its HUGE! But wait! There is a problem!

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PAULS HUGE STATEMENT
  • the singular phrase that directly refutes the
    Thessalonians error isgulp!
  • IN ITALICS! ITS ITALICIZED! KJV of course
  • that day shall not come
  • Italicized words are added by the translators!

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ITALICIZED WORDS ARE
  • NOT part of the God-breathed word but are ADDED
    by the translators. Supplied, if, in their
    opinion, the words are needed to make sense in
    English.
  • Am I to believe that the most direct refutation
    of the Thessalonians' error -- concerning what
    they believed to be the now occurring, Day of
    the Lord, -- was not even made by God, but was a
    translational addition as demonstrated by the
    italicized words, that day shall not come?

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HMMM LETS SEE
  • The words, that day shall not come, are not in
    any Greek MS. They have definitely been added by
    the translators.
  • I looked at 25 different Bible translations. Of
    those 25, 21 of them all had the words that day
    shall not come, or words to that effect, added
    to verse 3. Four did not.

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LETS REMOVE THE ITALICIZED WORDS
  • First with the italicized words
  • KJV 2 Thessalonians 23 Let no man deceive you
    by any means for that day shall not come, except
    there come a falling away first, and that man of
    sin be revealed, the son of perdition
  • Then without
  • KJV 2 Thessalonians 23 Let no man deceive you
    by any means for except there come a falling
    away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the
    son of perdition

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DO YOU SEE IT? THERES SOMETHING MISSING!
  • 2 Thessalonians 23-6 3 Let no man deceive you
    by any means for that day shall not come, except
    there come a falling away first, and that man of
    sin be revealed, the son of perdition 4 Who
    opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is
    called God, or that is worshipped so that he as
    God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself
    that he is God. 5 Remember ye not, that, when I
    was yet with you, I told you these things? 6 And
    now ye know what withholdeth that he might be
    revealed in his time.
  • Im not referring to the fact that the words are
    literally missing because I removed them, but
    rather, something is missing in the sense of the
    verses without those italicized words. Reread the
    above if you need to.

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LETS LOOK AT THE FOUR BIBLES THAT OMIT THE WORDS
  • The Basic Bible in English
  • BBE 2 Thessalonians 23 Give no belief to false
    words because there will first be a falling away
    from the faith, and the revelation of the man of
    sin, the son of destruction, first before what?
    This translation needs to end this verse with
    before the day of the Lord come.
  • Notice the bold words. They changed the grammer
    in order to make it work without the italicized
    words. They changed those bold words from the
    KJV, et al, where it says, except there come a
    falling away first - KJV.

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THE DOUAY-RHEIMS AMERICAN EDITION
  • DRA 2 Thessalonians 23 Let no man deceive you by
    any means for unless there come a revolt first,
    and the man of sin be revealed, the son of
    perdition
  • Notice how you are left hanging at the end of the
    verse. You sense something is missing but you do
    not know what.

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Now the NAB
  • NAB 2 Thessalonians 23 Let no one deceive you in
    any way. For unless the apostasy comes first and
    the lawless one is revealed, the one doomed to
    perdition,
  • Again, we are left dangling as if we are being
    set up to be told something but the something
    is never revealed.

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NOW THE FOURTH YOUNGS LITERAL TRANSLATION
  • YLT 2 Thessalonians 23 let not any one deceive
    you in any manner, because -- if the falling away
    may not come first, and the man of sin be
    revealed -- the son of the destruction,
  • And here, for a fourth time, we are left hanging,
    waiting for something we cannot exactly identify.

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BUT THE YLT IS CLEVER
  • They, at least recognize they have missed
    something in the sense of their translation.
  • So what do they do? They fix it by adding some
    italicized words two verses down! They add these
    words the day doth not come.
  • But where do they add them? Next verse!

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LETS LOOK
  • YLT 2 Thessalonians 23-4 3 let not any one
    deceive you in any manner, because -- if the
    falling away may not come first, and the man of
    sin be revealed -- the son of the destruction, 4
    who is opposing and is raising himself up above
    all called God or worshipped, so that he in the
    sanctuary of God as God hath sat down, shewing
    himself off that he is God -- the day doth not
    come.

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AND HOW DID THE KJV PUT IT
  • 2 Thessalonians 23 Let no man deceive you by
    any means for that day shall not come, except
    there come a falling away first, and that man of
    sin be revealed, the son of perdition
  • So lets tally up. We have 21 translations that
    add the words that day shall not come, or words
    to that affect.

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THEN WE HAVE A TRANSLATION
  • The BBE Basic Bible in English which does not
    include the italicized words but DOES change both
    the tense and voice to cover for not adding the
    italicized words which is ineffective.
  • In other words, they changed the word of God so
    they would not have to add the italicized words
    IMHO.

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THEN WE HAVE TWO
  • translations, the DRA and the NAB, neither of
    which make grammatical changes to hide the
    missing sense, nor do they add the italicized
    words, but rather, they simply leave us wondering
    what is missing.
  • Then there is the YLT, which adds the italicized
    words in the next verse.

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SO WHATS THE SCORE
  • Twentyone translations who include in verse 3 the
    words, that day shall not come.
  • One, the BBE, that changes the grammar so you
    dont sense something is missing.
  • Two translations, the DRA and NAB, who do not
    supply the italicized words but are honest enough
    to leave you with a sense that something is
    missing.
  • And lastly, the YLT, which ends up adding the
    words at the end of the next verse.

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THE EVIDENCE IS
  • overwhelming. The words, that day shall not
    come should be added, and are properly supplied
    by the translators.
  • Well now wait a minute! If they BELONG THERE, but
    were not PUT THERE, originally, by God, then that
    means that they were INTENTIONALLY left out by
    God! WHY? Why would he do that?

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ELLIPSIS
  • A legitimate figure of speech.
  • E.W. Bullinger, in his work, Figures of Speech
    used in the Bible, says specifically that the
    words, that day shall not come, in verse 3, are
    a particular kind of the figure, Ellipsis,
    whereby a whole clause is intentionally omitted.

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GOD, IN OMITTING
  • the words, that day shall not come,
    intentionally makes them a figure of speech and
    what is the purpose of a figure of speech?
  • TO GRAB OUR ATTENTION!
  • IT IS GODS WAY OF SAYING, HEY!

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HEY!! HEY!! HEY!!
  • PAY ATTENTION!!!
  • THAT DAY SHALL NOT COME!
  • THAT DAY SHALL NOT COME!
  • THAT DAY SHALL NOT COME!

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WHAT WERE THE THESSALONIANS AFRAID OF?
  • They were afraid that
  • THAT DAY HAD COME!
  • So God attacks their error with
  • THAT DAY SHALL NOT COME

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EXCEPT
  • That day shall not come EXCEPT!
  • 2 Thessalonians 23 Let no man deceive you by
    any means for that day shall not come, except
    there come a falling away first, and that man of
    sin be revealed, the son of perdition

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SO NOW WE SEE
  • Before the Day of the Lord begins, some things
    have to occur first. In fact, just by way of
    information, a bunch of things have to happen
    first, before the Day of the Lord can arrive.
    For example
  • Joel 230-31 30 And I will shew wonders in the
    heavens and in the earth, blood, and fire, and
    pillars of smoke. 31 The sun shall be turned
    into darkness, and the moon into blood, before
    the great and the terrible day of the LORD come.

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ANYTHING ELSE - YEAH
  • Malachi 45-6 5 Behold, I will send you Elijah
    the prophet before the coming of the great and
    dreadful day of the LORD 6 And he shall turn
    the heart of the fathers to the children, and the
    heart of the children to their fathers, lest I
    come and smite the earth with a curse.
  • Yup! Elijah is coming before the DAY OF THE LORD.

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ANYTHING ELSE WELL YEAH
  • Isaiah 139-13 9 Behold, the day of the LORD
    cometh, cruel both with wrath and fierce anger,
    to lay the land desolate and he shall destroy
    the sinners thereof out of it. 10 For the stars
    of heaven and the constellations thereof shall
    not give their light the sun shall be darkened
    in his going forth, and the moon shall not cause
    her light to shine. 11 And I will punish the
    world for their evil, and the wicked for their
    iniquity and I will cause the arrogancy of the
    proud to cease, and will lay low the haughtiness
    of the terrible. 12 I will make a man more
    precious than fine gold even a man than the
    golden wedge of Ophir. 13 Therefore I will shake
    the heavens, and the earth shall remove out of
    her place, in the wrath of the LORD of hosts, and
    in the day of his fierce anger. THE DAY OF THE
    LORD

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ANY MORE YEAH, SOME
  • Revelation 612-17 12 And I beheld when he had
    opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great
    earthquake and the sun became black as sackcloth
    of hair, and the moon became as blood 13 And
    the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as
    a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is
    shaken of a mighty wind. 14 And the heaven
    departed as a scroll when it is rolled together
    and every mountain and island were moved out of
    their places. 15 And the kings of the earth, and
    the great men, and the rich men, and the chief
    captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman,
    and every free man, hid themselves in the dens
    and in the rocks of the mountains 16 And said
    to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide
    us from the face of him that sitteth on the
    throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb 17 For
    the great day of his wrath is come and who shall
    be able to stand?

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THE BEGINNING OF THE
  • day of the Lord will be marked by tremendous
    signs in the heavens and on the earth, so the
    arrival of the day of the Lord will be evident
    no guessing needed.
  • And lets remember in the verses we just read
    that we learned that the day of the Lord is
    also the day of His wrath.

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AND YOU MAY RECALL
  • Romans 59 Much more then, being now justified
    by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath
    through him.
  • 1 Thessalonians 110 And to wait for his Son
    from heaven, whom he raised from the dead, even
    Jesus, which delivered us from the wrath to come.
  • 1 Thessalonians 59 For God hath not appointed
    us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord
    Jesus Christ,

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SO AT THE VERY LEAST WE CAN SEE A PRE-WRATH
RAPTURE
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BUT WAIT!
  • We are also supposed to see something else before
    the day of the Lord.
  • 2 Thessalonians 23 Let no man deceive you by
    any means for that day shall not come, except
    there come a falling away first, and that man of
    sin be revealed, the son of perdition

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PAUL SAYS THAT
  • before the day of the Lord, two things must
    happen in succession. What are the two things?
  • 1. a falling away first
  • and
  • 2. that man of sin be revealed

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WHICH HAPPENS FIRST?
  • The falling away, or the revealing of the man
    of sin?
  • No question about it! The falling away happens
    first.
  • How do I know that? Im glad you asked.

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2 THESSALONIANS 23 SAYS
  • except there come a falling away first
  • That word first is the Greek word, proton,
    and it means
  • 4412 proton pro'-ton
  • Meaning 1) first in time or place 1a) in any
    succession of things or persons 2) first in rank
    2a) influence, honour 2b) chief 2c) principal 3)
    first, at the first

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THESE TWO EVENTS
  • the falling away, and the revealing of the
    man of sin may be separated by some period of
    time or they may occur the one right after the
    other, but one thing is certain, the falling
    away happens first in the sequence.
  • Now that brings us to a very controversial issue,
    namely, what exactly is the falling away?

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APOSTASIA
  • The three English words, a falling away, are
    translated from the one Greek word, apostasia
    in 2nd Thessalonians 23.
  • Finding out exactly what God meant to convey when
    he used this word is crucial to the whole reason
    for writing 2nd Thessalonians 2, 1-8, and, as we
    might expect, anything that is crucial to our
    understanding something will find a great deal of
    devilish mischief surrounding it.

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BUT LETS WADE IN
  • There are three views expounded with regard to
    the meaning of apostasia, as it is used in 2nd
    Thessalonians 23, and lets remember that it is
    translated, a falling away. The views are as
    follows in no particular order.
  • 1. That before the man of sin is revealed there
    will be a falling away of Christians.

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THE SECOND VIEW IS
  • 2. That the falling away is that which occurs as
    a result of a future rebellion by Lucifer which
    then issues in the unveiling of his son of
    perdition, the antichrist.
  • 3. The third view is that a falling away is a
    poor rendering of apostasia, and that the word
    would be better rendered departure, meaning
    that some sort of departure must occur before
    the son of perdition is revealed.

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MY VIEW PRIOR TO THIS STUDY
  • has been that apostasia should be translated,
    the departure.
  • However, for the purposes of this study I set
    aside my view and let the evidence speak.
  • I have no personal preference and desire to
    simply ascertain what God said.

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I WILL PROVIDE THE EVIDENCE
  • and you decide for yourselves.
  • Before we examine the evidence I want to warn you
    of one thing. The belief, of various theologians,
    as to the correct translation of apostasia, is
    often clouded by the orthodoxy of various
    parties, and their predisposition, or opposition,
    to a pre-tribulation rapture, or any rapture that
    is separate from the 2nd coming of Christ.

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NOT TO WORRY THOUGH
  • God has so written His word that if we will
    search for the hidden gems, that we as kings are
    entitled to do, and are equipped to do, then we
    will discover the wonderful ways in which God has
    written his word so as to negate His
    interpretation from being prejudiced by a
    particular denomination, theological school, or
    translators orthodoxy.

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A CAVEAT ON DEFINITONS
  • The usage of a word may be distinct and unrelated
    to the actual definition of a word. For example,
    we all know what the word bad means, however,
    there is a usage in our culture where bad means
    good, e.g., That chick is bad!.
  • Generally speaking, a word is not defined by its
    usage, but by its definition. The meaning of a
    word may change over time by virtue of the way in
    which a culture uses the word, but its
    definition, generally speaking, will not change.
    Please remember this.

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APOSTASIA A FALLING AWAY
  • The argument for translating apostasia as a
    falling away, seems to have solid scholarship
    behind it.
  • Of those who believe that this falling away is
    people, and not some special demonic event, there
    is debate over whether believers in the church
    are pictured as falling away from their belief
    in God, or whether a general falling away of
    the whole worlds population is in view.

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THE CHURCH, THE WORLD, OR LUCIFERIC, WHICH IS IT?
  • No matter who you believe the falling away speaks
    of above, one thing is clear.
  • This event is not just a falling away, but it
    is the falling away, for the Greek supplies the
    definite article the, which is interesting
    because
  • In Greek grammar the article is assumed anyway.
    So by God supplying the definite article God is
    making a clear statement.

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It is THE Apostasia
  • God makes it clear that this is a singular,
    one-time event. Not all translations translate
    the Greek article the that God intentionally
    placed to show the emphasis on this being a
    singular event.
  • That is unfortunate, and it is poor translation.
    Whether it is the falling away or the
    departure, the the belongs there.

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HOW THE APOSTASIA IS TRANSLATED IN 34 VERSIONS
  • ASV, NKJ, YLT the falling away BBE, K21,
    KJG, KJV, PNT, RWB WEB Webster Bible a
    falling away AMP, CSB, DBY, MSG, NAB, NAS,
    NAU, WEY the apostasy DRA a revolt
    ESV, NET, NIB, NIV, NRS, RSV the rebellion
    MRD a defection NJB the Great Revolt
    NLT a great rebellion CEV people will
    rebel GNT the final rebellion NCV the
    turning away NLV people turn away GNV,
    TNT, - a departing WEB World English Bible
    the departure.

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THE LEXICON ON APOSTASIA
  • My bible software allows me to hold my mouse
    cursor over a word or group of words and see the
    Strongs Concordance Lexical definition of the
    word. The results.

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A GENEVA BIBLE NOTE
  • Notes Geneva Bible Notes
  • (1) The apostle foretells that before the coming
    of the Lord, there will be a throne set up
    completely contrary to Christ's glory, in which
    that wicked man will sit, and transfer all things
    that appertain to God to himself and many will
    fall away from God to him.

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THIS GENEVA BIBLE NOTE
  • is very revealing. Why? Lets look at the
    pertinent parts one more time.
  • (1) The apostle foretells that before the coming
    of the Lord, (1) there will be a throne set up
    completely contrary to Christ's glory, in which
    that wicked man will sit, and (2) transfer all
    things that appertain to God to himself and many
    will fall away from God to him.

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PUT SIMPLER
  • 1. He sits on his throne in Jerusalem, in the
    rebuilt temple
  • 2. He receives worship intended for God and
    causes many to fall away from God and worship
    him.
  • ANYBODY SEE A PROBLEM HERE!

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SEQUENCE, SEQUENCE
  • 1. Sits on throne
  • 2. Causes many to fall away
  • 2 Thessalonians 23 Let no man deceive you by
    any means for that day shall not come, except
    there come a falling away first, and that man of
    sin be revealed, the son of perdition

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THE APOSTASIA HAPPENS FIRST, THEN HE SITS
  • 2 Thessalonians 23 Let no man deceive you by any
    means 1 for that day shall not come, except
    there come a falling away first, and that man of
    sin be revealed, the son of perdition
  • 2 Thessalonians 24 Who opposeth and exalteth
    himself above all that is called God, or that is
    worshipped so that he as God sitteth in the
    temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

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WHATEVER THE APOSTASIA IS
  • it is FIRST, before the revealing of the man of
    sin, who is revealed when he sits in Gods
    temple, claiming Gods worship.
  • Remember an earlier slide on the word first in
    the phrase, except there come a falling away
    first?
  • The word first is proton, the first in a
    succession!

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THAT MISTAKE MAKES ME A LITTLE SUSPICIOUS
  • but never mind, lets continue to examine the
    case for apostasia being translated falling
    away.
  • You probably do not remember the fact that the
    Strongs definition for apostasia mentioned
    that apostasia appears one other time in the
    New Testament in Acts 2121 where it is
    translated, forsake.

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ACTS 2121
  • Acts 2121 And they are informed of thee, that
    thou teachest all the Jews which are among the
    Gentiles to forsake Moses, saying that they ought
    not to circumcise their children, neither to walk
    after the customs.
  • The word above, forsake, is translated from the
    Greek word, apostasia. The same word translated
    a falling away in 2nd Thessalonians 23

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THE CASE FOR A FALLING AWAY IS LOOKING STRONG
  • In all cases, any argument made by scholars,
    teachers, and believers, for translating
    apostasia as a falling away, or a
    rebellion, or, apostasy, all reference the
    only other use of apostasia in Acts 2121 where
    it is used to describe forsaking Moses,
    indicating a religious falling away from Moses.
  • They also use the definitions provided in the
    Lexicons as well as verses in the LXX.

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THE LXX THE SEPTUAGINT
  • The Septuagint is a Greek translation of the
    Hebrew Old Testament produced around 282 BC.
    Hebrew scholars who also knew Greek were invited
    to Alexandria Egypt to produce the LXX.
  • The LXX has a few references (a half dozen or so)
    where Hebrew bible verses speak of rebellion
    against God or religion, and in these verses, the
    Greek word, apostasia is used.

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A COUPLE OF EXAMPLES
  • LXE Joshua 2222 God even God is the Lord, and
    God even God himself knows, and Israel he shall
    know if we have transgressed before the Lord by
    apostasy, let him not deliver us this day.
  • LXE 2 Chronicles 2919 and all the vessels which
    king Achaz polluted in his reign, in his
    apostasy, we have prepared and purified behold,
    they are before the altar of the Lord.

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SO OUT OF 35 BIBLES
  • why would even three bibles choose to translate
    apostasia as depart, or departure? The
    evidence for a falling away, or, apostasy, or
    a rebellion, seems overwhelming!
  • The answer to that question is very interesting,
    and vital to your life. Yes, vital!

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WHAT DO WE HAVE?
  • 1. We have the LXX Greek bible using apostasia
    to translate Hebrew words meaning rebellion
    against God.
  • 2. We have the only other verse in the New
    Testament which we can look at using the prior
    usage rule, Acts 2121, where apostasia is
    translated as forsake, as in a religious
    forsaking of Moses.
  • 3. We have the Strongs definition of apostasia
    as a falling away, defection, apostasy.

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EVERYONE BUILDS THEIR CASE ON THOSE THREE THINGS,
  • which are not unsound! So what made me
    question?
  • After all, I have settled on the meaning of other
    words with far less research. I would simply look
    at Strongs and move on.
  • But! In those various cases, I was not detecting
    the putrid aroma of gasp

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A CONSPIRACY!
  • What exactly was bothering me? Was it that I had
    some personal predilection causing me to want to
    see a falling away translated as the the
    departure. NO!
  • First, that would not be honest, and I have not
    approached the word of God dishonestly in many
    years.
  • Was it my desire to see a rapture verse that
    showed us leaving before most of the bad stuff?

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NO! TO ALL OF THESE! THEN WHAT?
  • It was a nnggghhh! A what? A nnggghhh!
  • What the hell is a nnggghhh? Im glad you
    askedlt(0)
  • A nnggghhh is a thing I get in my spirit when
    something stinks but I have no idea why. When
    that happens, I just pray, continue to read, and
    do my due diligence.

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Then I beganto notice things
  • Things like the Geneva Bible note we read that
    had the sequence of events backwards, that is,
    they had the AntiChrist being revealed as God,
    and then the falling away. Nothing conclusive
    in itself, but enough for me to say, why were
    they backwards.
  • Then there is the subject. Yes, the subject.

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REMEMBER THE SLIDE WHERE WE SAW THAT THE SUBJECT
  • was 2 Thessalonians 21
  • Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of
    our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering
    together unto him,
  • 1. the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ,
  • 2. our gathering together unto him,

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THE SUBJECT, THE STANDARD BY WHICH TRUTH and
ERROR
  • must be measured. Everything in this section of
    2nd Thessalonians must comport with the announced
    subject of and be measured by
  • 1. the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ,
  • 2. our gathering together unto him,rapture

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DID I FIND THAT TO BE THE CASE? NO! HOW SO!
  • Im glad you asked! Remember, we measure by
  • 1. the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ,
  • 2. our gathering together unto him,
  • However, when I read verse 3 and following, it
    raised a flag for me. Why?
  • First of all, notice in verse 1 that the order of
    the phrases are reversed. Jesus does not come,
    and then we are gathered! We are gathered to him,
    and then we come back with him at his 2nd coming!

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THE REVERSAL OF THIS ORDER GRABBED MY ATTENTION
  • You see, the Day of the Lord is synonymous in
    scripture with the 2nd coming of Christ. If you
    are talking about the 2nd coming you are talking
    about the Day of the Lord. If you are talking
    about the day of the Lord you are talking about
    the 2nd coming.
  • I saw the reversal in the subject

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AND THEN I SAW THE REVERSAL AGAIN IN VERSE 3
  • 2 Thessalonians 23 for that day shall not
    come, except there come a falling away first,
  • For that day shall not come! What day? The Day
    of the Lord, that is, Christs coming!
  • The Day of the Lord/Christs coming is placed in
    sequence in the verse before the apostasia, or
    a falling away. The order they are mentioned is
    in reverse order from their actual occurrence.

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SO NOW I SEE A PATTERN
  • In 2nd Thessalonians 21, the subject
  • 1. the 2nd coming of Christ,
  • 2. our gathering together rapture,
  • And in 2nd Thessalonians 23
  • 1. that day the 2nd coming shall not come,
  • 2. our gathering together, WHAT!!

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ARE YOU NUTS?
  • I do not see what you see! Ill grant you that
    the italicized phrase in verse 3, that day shall
    not come, is a reference to the Day of the Lord,
    the day of Christs 2nd coming but BUT BUT!
  • I see no words after that, or even in the next
    words, except there come a falling away first
    that remotely relate to our gathering together,
    instead we have, a falling away.

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EXACTLY! EXACTLY!
  • We have a subject introduced in verse (1) which
    is Christs coming Day of the Lord and then
    our gathering rapture. Its even introduced
    in REVERSE order with respect to sequence.
  • Then, in verse (3) we the same reverse order,
    Christs coming Day of the Lord and then our
    gathering rapture? NO! Thats not what we
    see! We see, instead, Christs coming Day of
    the Lord and then what? A falling away?

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LETS SEE, OKAY, APPLE/APPLE, then APPLE/BANANA?
  • Day of the Lord APPLE then gathering
    together/rapture APPLE in 2nd Thess 21, but in
    2nd Thess 23 we see
  • Day of the Lord APPLE then falling away
    BANANA? 2 Thess 23
  • Im expecting everything Paul introduces to
    comport with Gods benchmark, the subject
    introduced in verse (1).
  • A falling away was NOT introduced in 2nd Thess
    21 as the subject. So why is it there in verse
    23?

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MORE SUSPICIOUS NOW
  • but do not have nearly enough authority to
    overturn the great body of evidence supporting a
    falling away as a translation. But I am getting
    more suspicious. Why?
  • Because I have done too much research into Gods
    word, and seen the incredible harmony and
    symmetry in the structure of His word to be
    comfortable with apostasia as a falling away.

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WE GO DEEPER
  • The word apostasia itself is a compound of two
    Greek words, apo, meaning from and istemi,
    meaning stand. So in its literal sense, it is
    a standing away from, and would be defined as
    away from, or departure.
  • So where does a falling away come from? Good
    question. Lets look at the Lexicons

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BDAG Lexicon
Sounds like a falling away to me
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THAYERS LEXICON
NOTICE THIS COMMENT! AHA! THE FIRST RAY OF LIGHT!
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LIDDELL-SCOTT LEXICON
  • Notice the words late form of and the slight
    difference in the words. Also notice this Lexicon
    provides the definition of defection. A much
    more general term and more accurate, I would say.

See it! This is a late form of this! So lets
look at the earlier form.
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