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PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERING LICENSURE
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Prelude Professional Engineering Licensure The
Hyatt Regency Collapse
Presenter Scott A. Sabol, PE Vermont Technical
College
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The Hyatt Regency Walkway BACKGROUND
  • 40-story Hyatt Regency in Kansas City, Missouri
    opened in 1980
  • July 1981 dance event in hotel drew huge crowds
  • Many were on elevated, suspended walkways
  • 2nd floor walkway directly beneath 4th floor
    walkway (3rd floor offset)

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THE CATASTROPHE
  • Based on loading and design/construction error,
    some walkways collapsed
  • gt100 killed
  • gt200 injured

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THE RESULT(SOURCE Lee L. Lowery, Jr., PhD, P.E
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THE CAUSE
  • Construction modification with insufficient/inappr
    opriate engineering review

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ORIGINAL vs. AS-BUILT
  • Original
  • Built-up box beams suspended by rods
  • Each nut assembly holds one floor
  • Required long threaded rod length
  • As-built
  • Separate rods from floor to floor
  • Eliminated long threading
  • Eased construction

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WHY DID CHANGE CAUSE PROBLEM? The 2 people on a
rope-swing analogy
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THE FAILED DETAIL
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HOW / WHY DID THE CHANGE OCCUR?
  • Poor contractor-engineer communications
  • Havens Steel
  • Jack D. Gillum Assoc.
  • Engineer approved change without performing
    detailed calculations
  • Did not meet standard of care

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THE AFTERMATH
  • Missouri Board of Architects, Professional
    Engineers, and Land Surveyors stripped the
    responsible engineers of their licenses
  • ASCE revoked their membership

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What Is A Professional Engineer (PE)?
Presenter Francis Kennedy, PE
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What Is A Professional Engineer (PE)?
  • Topics
  • Background Professional Engineering
  • Legal Requirements
  • Why become a registered Professional Engineer?
  • Fundamental Canons of Engineering

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Background Professional Engineering
  • A century ago, anyone could work as an engineer
    without proof of competency.
  • In order to protect the public health, safety,
    and welfare, the first engineering licensure law
    was enacted in 1907 in Wyoming.
  • Now every state regulates the practice of
    engineering to ensure public safety by granting
    only licensed Professional Engineers (PEs) the
    authority to sign and seal engineering plans and
    offer their services to the public.

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Legal Requirements
  • All states in U.S. and most foreign countries
    have Professional Registration laws governing the
    practice of engineering
  • Most states prohibit persons who are not
    registered Professional Engineers from
  • Advertising, using a business card, or otherwise
    indicating to the public that they are a
    qualified engineer or consulting engineer
  • Assuming the title of expert engineering witness
  • Practicing or offering to practice as a
    consulting engineer or expert engineering witness
  • Teaching in a public engineering school (some
    states).
  • Engineers in industrial practice may be exempted
    from some of these laws

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Why Become a Registered PE?
  • Prestige
  • Tells public that you have mastered the critical
    elements of your profession
  • Authority
  • Only PEs can be in responsible charge of an
    engineering consulting firm
  • PEs can serve as qualified expert witness
  • Only PEs can sign engineering drawings for public
    projects
  • Higher pay and increased opportunities
  • Career development and flexibility

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Fundamental Canons of Engineering (From ASCE Code
of Ethics)
  • Engineers shall hold paramount the safety, health
    and welfare of the public and shall strive to
    comply with the principles of sustainable
    development in the performance of their
    professional duties.
  • Engineers shall perform services only in areas of
    their competence.
  • Engineers shall issue public statements only in
    an objective and truthful manner.
  • Engineers shall act in professional matters for
    each employer or client as faithful agents or
    trustees, and shall avoid conflicts of interest.
  • Engineers shall build their professional
    reputation on the merit of their services and
    shall not compete unfairly with others.
  • Engineers shall act in such a manner as to uphold
    and enhance the honor, integrity, and dignity of
    the engineering profession.
  • Engineers shall continue their professional
    development throughout their careers, and shall
    provide opportunities for the professional
    development of those engineers under their
    supervision.

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The Process of Becoming a PE
Presenter Matthew J. Low, P.E., SECB
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The Process of Becoming a PE
  • Topics
  • Who Licenses Professional Engineers?
  • What Are The Requirements?
  • Existing Licensure Process Model

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Who Licenses Professional Engineers?
  • Individual State Boards of Licensure
  • NCEES National Council of Examiners of
    Engineers and Surveyors (Council of PE Boards)
  • Maintains and transmits official records for a
    fee
  • Registration with NCEES required by some states
  • Streamlines future state applications by comity

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What Are The Requirements?
  • Education
  • Examinations
  • Fundamentals of Engineering (FE) Exam
  • Principles and Practice of Engineering (PE) Exam
  • Experience
  • Ethics Reputation

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Education Requirements
  • ABET Accredited EAC Bachelors Degree
  • Alternate Pathways
  • Science Bachelors / Engineering Masters
  • ABET TAC Degree
  • Foreign Degrees
  • Some states allow less education with significant
    (20 years) experience but that practice is
    disappearing
  • Acronyms
  • ABET Accreditation Board for Engineering and
    Technologies
  • EAC Engineering Accreditation Commission
  • TAC Technology Accreditation Commission

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Examination Requirements
  • Fundamentals of Engineering Examination
  • Fee required
  • Easiest when taken senior year of college
  • No maintenance required of Engineer In Training
    status
  • Some states may waive with significant experience
  • Principles and Practices Examination
  • Fee required
  • Extensive application process which requires
    references, detailed work experience record, etc.
  • Taken after fulfillment of experience
    requirements

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Fundamentals of Engineering (FE) Exam
  • Day-long (8 Hours) Exam
  • Given Nationwide in April and October
  • Given at Thayer School every April
  • Covers the Topics Normally Studied in an
    Undergraduate Engineering Program
  • Included are mathematics, chemistry, mechanics,
    electrical circuits, engineering economics,
    electronics, thermodynamics, materials science,
    solid mechanics, fluid mechanics, and computer
    programming

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Principles and Practice of Engineering (PE) Exam
  • Given Nationwide in April and October
  • Day-long (8 Hours) Exam in Two Parts
  • General (4 Hours)
  • Includes economics, HVAC, thermo, mechanics, etc.
  • Specialized (4 Hours)
  • You select one area of specialization
  • Areas of specialization Chemical, Civil,
    Mechanical, Electrical, Environmental,
    Structural, Aeronautical, Agricultural,
    Manufacturing, Control Systems, Metallurgical,
    Fire Protection, Mining, Industrial, Nuclear,
    Petroleum

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Experience Requirements
  • Typically Four Years Engineering Experience or
    Three With an Engineering Masters
  • Non-engineering work will not count toward your
    experience
  • Requires Letters of Reference From Several PEs
    Familiar With Your Work
  • 3 for NH, 5 for NCEES
  • Engineering Experience Must Show Increasing Scope
    Responsibility
  • Record your accomplishments in detail START NOW
  • Some states require evidence such as your
    drawings or calculations

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Ethics Reputation Requirements
  • NH Requires You Pass an Ethics Examination
  • Keep Your Reputation Clean!
  • Abide by all laws governing practice of
    engineering in the State in which registered
  • Avoid any misconduct, whether personal,
    professional, or legal
  • Build Working Relationships With Other PEs
  • Experience requirement mandates working with a PE
  • You will need references/recommendations from
    several PEs to apply for PE exam

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Existing Licensure Process Model
  • Fundamentals of Engineering Examination
  • ABET EAC Bachelors Degree
  • Engineer-in-Training
  • Four Years Engineering Experience
  • Principles and Practices Examination
  • NH Engineering Ethics Examination
  • Licensed Professional Engineer
  • Continuing Professional Development

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PE License Maintenance
Presenter Gary Phetteplace, PE
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Maintenance Fees
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Maintenance Continuing Education
  • Many states now have continuing education
    requirements as a condition of PE license
    renewal.
  • Both the amount of continuing education required
    and what meets the requirements vary by state.
  • Some states allow their continuing education
    requirements to be met by comity i.e. if there
    are requirements in your state of residency and
    you meet them you will be considered to have met
    the requirements in the jurisdiction of other
    states.

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Maintenance Continuing Education
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Maintenance Continuing EducationNH Regulations
  • Each licensee shall obtain at least 30
    professional development hours of approved
    continuing education courses during the biennial
    renewal period as a condition of license renewal.
  • If a licensee exceeds the requirement, a maximum
    of 15 professional development hours may be
    carried forward into the subsequent renewal
    period.

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Maintenance Continuing EducationNH Regulations
  • New licensees shall be exempt from obtaining
    professional development hours for their first
    biennial renewal period.
  • Licensees who are residents of jurisdictions
    other than New Hampshire shall meet the
    continuing professional development or equivalent
    requirements of their resident jurisdiction. The
    requirements for the State of New Hampshire shall
    be satisfied when a non-resident licensee
    provides evidence of having met the requirements
    of their resident jurisdiction.
  • If licensees reside in a jurisdiction that has no
    continuing professional development requirements,
    the resident shall meet the requirements of the
    State of New Hampshire.

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Maintenance Continuing EducationNH Regulations
  • Continuing education activities shall be relevant
    to the practice of engineering or no credit shall
    be awarded. Such continuing education activities
    may include technical, ethical, or managerial
    content.
  • The content of each presentation shall be well
    organized and presented in a sequential manner.
  • The participant in a CE course/program is
    required to maintain records.

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Maintenance Continuing EducationNH Regulations
  • Teaching or instructing qualifying courses or
    seminars or making presentations at technical
    meetings shall earn professional development
    hours credit at twice that of participants.
  • Each professional journal, published paper,
    article or published engineering text book shall
    equal 30 professional development hours.
  • Active participation in professional or technical
    societies shall equal 2 professional development
    hours and shall require that a registrant serve
    as an officer and/or actively participate in a
    committee of the organization. (Professional
    development hour credits shall not be earned
    until each year service is completed and shall be
    limited to 2 professional development hours per
    organization)
  • Credit awarded for one patent shall equal 10
    professional development hours.
  • Professional development credits shall not be
    recognized for any repeat program attended or
    completed.

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Maintenance Continuing EducationNH Regulations
  • Its the responsibility of the licensee to
    maintain records to be used to support CE credits
    claimed.
  • A log must be maintained showing the type of
    activity claimed, sponsoring organization,
    location, instructors or speakers name, and
    professional development hours credits earned.
  • Attendance verification records are needed in the
    form of completion certificates or other
    documents supporting evidence of attendance such
    as signed attendance receipts, paid receipts, or
    a copy of a listing of attendees signed by a
    person sponsoring the course or program or the
    course/program provider.
  • The licensee shall retain attendance verification
    records for a period of at least 4 years.
  • Not less than 5 of the licensees shall be
    randomly selected each year by the board for
    compliance.

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Maintenance Continuing Education
  • NCEES maintains a registry of Continuing
    Education providers, see www.rcep.net/rcep/ for
    details.
  • This website also has a list of the continuing
    education requirements for each state and links
    to the state regulations.

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Maintenance NCEES Record
  • As mentioned earlier, NCEES record is required by
    some states and may be useful even where not
    required for those who need to get registered in
    new jurisdictions and do so rapidly.
  • Annual cost of maintaining an NCEES record is
    25.
  • Only one updated reference is required per year.
  • Cost of record transmittal to a state board is
    60.

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PE License Maintenance
  • Maintain Good Professional Character
  • Abide by all laws governing practice of
    engineering and ethics in the State in which
    registered. For NH the Engineering Ethical
    Standards begin with The professional engineer
    shall hold paramount the safety, health, and
    welfare of the public
  • Public statements only in an objective and
    truthful manner
  • Avoid conflicts of interest
  • Accept work only on the basis of qualifications
  • Perform services in an ethical and lawful manner

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Benefits of Becoming a PE
Presenter Jennifer Marrs, PE
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Benefits of Becoming a PE
  • Topics
  • Personal Benefits
  • Career Benefits
  • Private Practice

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Personal Benefits
  • Prestige Authority
  • License is proof of high level of commitment
  • License is proof of mastery
  • License is proof of ethical fidelity deserves
    trust
  • The difference between a profession and just a
    job
  • PE is an individual credential, not job dependent
  • PE designation after name, similar to MD
  • Career Flexibility
  • Economic advantages
  • Personal fulfillment

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Career Benefits
  • Credentials Give You a Competitive Edge
  • Economic Change Requires Flexibility, Mastery
  • New Job Options With PE License
  • Some Corporate Jobs (Some States, Some
    Specialties)
  • Some Public Sector / Government Jobs
  • Some Government Contracts Grants
  • Teaching (Some States)
  • Forensic Engineering (Engineering Expert Witness)
  • Private Practice (Consulting Contracting)

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Private Practice
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Private Practice
  • License Required in Most States to Sell
    Engineering Services to Any Entity, Including
    Corporate Clients
  • This includes contracting, consulting
  • Your business insurance policy may also require
    licensure
  • Simply Avoiding the Word Engineering Is Not
    Enough!
  • State laws define what actions constitute the
    practice of engineering
  • Usually actions like making drawings or
    performing calculations constitute practice of
    engineering
  • Some States Have Exemptions
  • Example VT exempts anyone involved in design or
    manufacture of a product
  • Check Your State Laws for Guidance

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Ten Reasons to NOT get your PE License
Presenter E. Smith Reed, PE
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Ten NINE Reasons to NOT get your PE License
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9.
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9. It costs money.
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NH VTFE (EIT) Exam 150 125PE
Application 225 100PE Exam
150 235Annual Renewal 75/yr 50/yr
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8.
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8. For the exam, ya gotta go out and
buy a new calculator!
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8. For the exam, ya gotta go out and
buy a new calculator! . . . and then
learn how to use it . . .
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7.
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7. You'll probably need to take a
refresher course
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7. You'll probably need to take a
refresher course . . . which takes time
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7. You'll probably need to take a
refresher course . . . which takes
time . . . and you have to do
problem sets
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7. You'll probably need to take a
refresher course . . . which takes
time . . . and you have to do
problem sets . . . . something youll
not have
done in years !
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typical refresher class structure
  • six Saturdays - 800 am to 600 pm
  • - or -
  • twelve Wednesdays - 630 pm to 930 pm
  • - plus -
  • two Saturdays - 900 am to 200 pm

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6. This refresher course will take more
money
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  • Kaplan course 160
  • ENSYS course 2,400 ( - up to 2,995 )
  • PPi course 1,000 books
  • PE Review Books 40 to 400

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5.
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5. There's a REAL chance you won't even
pass! ( a chance you'll be a FAILURE!
)
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5. There's a REAL chance you won't even
pass! ( a chance you'll be a FAILURE!
) . . . which takes time money
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FE (EIT) Exam Failure Rates
ExaminationModule First-timetakers who FAIL Repeattakers who FAIL
Chemical 18 54
Civil 30 71
Electrical 33 71
Environmental 24 66
Industrial 34 73
Mechanical 19 68
General 26 71
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PE Exam Failure Rates
ExaminationModule First-timetakers who FAIL Repeattakers who FAIL
Chemical 21 66
Civil 40 75
Electrical 30 74
Environmental 27 57
Industrial 21 68
Mechanical 30 62
Petroleum 27 53
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4.
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4. Many (most?) employers don't really
care.
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3.
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3. Your girlfriend (boyfriend) won't
know the difference . . .
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3. Your girlfriend (boyfriend) won't
know the difference . . . (. . .
duhhhh . . . )
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3. Your girlfriend (boyfriend) won't
know the difference . . . . . . people
you want to impress would be more
impressed by an MBA, or a PhD . . .
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2.
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2. In five more years, . . . you'll
have forgotten all that stuff.
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2. In five more years, . . . you'll
have forgotten all that stuff. - again !
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1.
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1. Even if you get your PE license,
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1. Even if you get your PE license,
they probably won't let you teach the gym
class anyway . . .
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Professional Engineering Licensure Resources
Presenter Scott A. Sabol, PE Vermont Technical
College
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NATIONAL COUNCIL of EXAMINERS for ENGINEERING and
SURVEYING (NCEES)
  • Creator/scoring agency for the FE and PE exams
  • www.ncees.org
  • Information on
  • Test dates
  • Test format
  • Allowable reference and other material

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NCEES (contd)
  • Information on
  • Review materials
  • Including FE Handbook
  • Professional licensure records program
  • State engineering board contacts

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NCEES EXAMPLE REFERENCE
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Professional Publications, Inc.
  • www.ppi2pass.com
  • Exam-specified references/specs
  • Review products
  • FE Review Manual (FERM)
  • money back guarantee
  • EIT Reference Manual
  • Various PE review Manuals

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EXAMPLE PPI PRODUCT
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PPI (contd)
  • Discussion forums
  • Review course listing
  • Independently offered ones can post notice
  • Comment Roam the website carefully not the
    easiest to navigate

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YOUR STATE BOARD
  • Their information trumps anything found on other
    sources!
  • Often under the Secretary of State
  • VT http//www.vtprofessionals.org/opr1/engineers/
  • NH
  • http//www.nh.gov/jtboard/pe.htm

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KAPLAN AEC EDUCATION
  • http//www.kaplanaecengineering.com/
  • Similar offerings to PPI

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STATE/NATIONAL ENGINEERING SOCIETIES
  • Vermont Society of Professional Engineers
  • New Hampshire Society of Professional Engineers
  • National Society of Professional Engineers
  • ASCE-ASME-IEEE and others

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OTHER RESOURCES EXIST
  • Ask a colleague!
  • Check university websites
  • Hofstra, Wisconsin-Madison
  • Some in-person some distance
  • Most colleges/universities have an FE review
    course (some a PE)
  • Not all resources of equal quality
  • SERM?CERM ?MERM ?FERM

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