Title: Some Notes on Plato and Aristotle and Mimetic Theory of Art
1Some Notes on Plato and Aristotle and Mimetic
Theory of Art
2Some Notes on Plato and Aristotle and Mimetic
Theory of Art
- And a lot of other stuff.
3The Mimetic Theory of Art
- Art is essentially an imitation of Nature.
4The Mimetic Theory of Art
- Think of the first four letters M I M E
- Art is essentially an mimicry of nature
- Paintings are supposed to look just like the
real thing etc. - Arguably the oldest and most widely held view on
the nature of art. (View held by Plato, et alia.) - Seems to capture a lot of art (certainly within
Platos time).
5The Mimetic Theory of Art
- Problems
- How does this handle music?, abstract art?
- What is mimesis exactly? (Imitation,
mirroring, perceptual equivalence,
counterfeiting, idealization, representation?) - If I say that the point of a picture is to
capture the world exactly as it really is, what
am I assuming? - (Star Trek story here- or, to save time, picture
of Grand Canyon)
6The Mimetic Theory of Art
- But lets look as Platos View anyway
- Believed that art is essentially an imitation of
nature. (Mimetic Theory of Art) - Therefore, (according to Plato) art is at best
- (1) useless and
- (2) potentially dangerous.
7Platos ViewArt is Essentially Mimesis
- Plato is convinced that the arts form a natural
grouping and that they all share a common Form - I.E. That which all and only Arts have in
common by virtue of which we recognize each to be
an art and by virtue of which each is an art. - Not so much an assumption, as the consequence of
his Metaphysical Theory of Forms. - We rightly gather them together linguistically
because of a metaphysical reality.
8Platos ViewArt is Essentially Mimesis
- As 20th Century Formalist Clive Bell put is
- "either all works of visual art have some common
quality, or when we speak of 'works of art' we
gibber."
9Platos ViewArt is Essentially Mimesis
- 1. Art was useless
- It serves no useful purpose in society.
- As a "Imitation of Nature" it added no knowledge.
No intellectual value- - (The same value could be added by simply by
holding up a mirror to the world which would be
far less costly.) - According his metaphysics, art is an imitation of
an imitation, thus barely real at all.
10Platos ViewArt is Essentially Mimesis
- Art was potentially dangerous for several
reasons - A.) Art was essentially deceptive.
- The whole aim of art was to deceive. Success was
achieved when the spectator mistook an imitation
for reality. - Furthermore, artists were unconcerned with
facts/truth. It made no difference to artists
nor to the success of their works whether the
images or stories they depict were real or their
messages true or good.
11Platos ViewArt is Essentially Mimesis
- B.) Art was mainly concerned with sensual
pleasure. - Art seems directed entirely towards pleasing the
senses and ignoring the mind, intellect, or
concepts.
12Platos ViewArt is Essentially Mimesis
- Remember that, according to Platonic Mind/Body
Dualism, our bodies are the least valuable, least
permanent, least "real" aspects of our
personalities. - Further, according to Platos Rationalism, our
senses are incapable of providing us with genuine
knowledge since they only gather impressions from
an ever-changing physical world but not
immaterial/invisible forces which guide, direct
and sustain the physical world. - Thus our senses and, consequently, art are
"metaphysically" misguided since it is directed
towards illusion and not "reality." - Further, Art serves to perpetuate and sustain
this misdirection, keeping us ignorant of truth,
justice, goodness and "real" beauty.
13Platos ViewArt is Essentially Mimesis
- B.) Art was mainly concerned with sensual
pleasure. - NB Note this has not only a Metaphysical and
Epistemological Dimension this has an Ethical
Dimension as well. - This has Ethical overtones, not so much in the
Later Christian Condemnation of Sensualism, but
rather the more Greek notion, that this was a
pathetic way to waste a human life. (Too much
T.V.- Cartoons) - Ethical in the sense that this is simply not
what one (human) ought to do. - Think of the uncanny similarity between the
imprisoned slaves in Platos Allegory of the
Cave who mistakenly take the shadows to be all
there is to reality, an those who in a darkened
cinema sob uncontrollably when Leonardo DiCaprio
goes down for the last time.
14Platos ViewArt is Essentially Mimesis
- B.) Art was mainly concerned with sensual
pleasure. - Humankind lingers unregenerately in Platos cave,
still reveling, its age old habit, in mere images
of truth. (Susan Sontag) - It must be admitted that if imitation is the sole
purpose of the graphic arts, it is surprising
that the works of such arts are ever looked upon
as more than curiosities, or ingenious toys, are
ever taken seriously by grown-up people. (Roger
Fry)
15Platos ViewArt is Essentially Mimesis
- c.) Art is psychologically de-stabilizing.
- Human existence is, in great part, a struggle to
master the emotions and sensual urges by using
reason and intellect according to Plato. (His
tri-partite theory of the Psyche) - Therefore art was dangerous and counterproductive
to this end (i.e. rational self-mastery) since it
appeals not to reason and intellect, but to the
psychological forces which constantly try to
over-through reason, namely passion and emotion. - "Poetry feeds and waters the passions instead of
drying them up she lets them rule, although they
ought to be controlled, if mankind are ever to
increase in happiness and virtue"
16Platos ViewArt is Essentially Mimesis
- D.) Art leads to immorality.
- Art was unconcerned with morality, sometimes even
teaching immoral lessons. (The Iliad) Morality,
it would seem, has nothing to do with a works
success as art. - Plato worries that such art would encourage
immorality in the citizens of this state. People
might uncritically accept and admire immoral,
vicious traits when they are attractively
packaged by skilled artists (distinction between
truth and illusion/ physicians and cooks/ heath
and cosmetics/ beauty and glamour.) - Like a skilled chef, artists are only interested
in pleasing the palate, even if it poisons the
diner. Since (mimetic) art is institutionally
divorced from truth, goodness or any concern with
'real' beauty, it creates an environment of
superficial "flavors" where all sorts of
atrocities can be made to seem a tempting
confection.
17Platos ViewArt is Essentially Mimesis
- E.) Art was politically dangerous, a threat to
the common good. - Similar to the point made earlier (c), Plato
worried that strong art which appeals to emotions
stirs up negative emotions which we are trying to
control. -
- But this is more than just a problem for the
individual. For a people with a history of
"mania," strong, emotion-stirring art is rightly
seen as a threat to the good of state/community. - It was, therefore correctly the concern of
government. - NB This is similar to the criticism leveled by
some today against violence and sex in the media.
Like Plato, they argue that violence and sex in
the media cause us to be a more violent, sexually
obsessed culture. This affects not just the
people who consume the violent images, but the
entire community of which they are a part.
18Platos ViewArt is Essentially Mimesis
- Art was potentially dangerous for several
reasons - A.) Art was essentially deceptive. (Ep.)
- B.) Art was mainly concerned with sensual
pleasure. (M, Ep., Eth.) - C.) Further, Art was psychologically
de-stabilizing. (for the individual) (Eth., Ps.) - D.) Art leads to immorality. (Eth.)
- E.) Art was politically dangerous. (threat to the
common good) (Po. Ps.)
19Platos View
- there is an ancient quarrel between philosophy
and poetry of which there are many proofs, such
as the saying of 'the yelping hound howling at
her lord,' or of one 'mighty in the vain talk of
fools,' and 'the mob of sages circumventing
Zeus,' and the 'subtle thinkers who are beggars
after all' and there are innumerable other signs
of ancient enmity between them. Notwithstanding
this, let us assure our sweet friend and the
sister arts of imitation that if she will only
prove her title to exist in a well-ordered State
we shall be delighted to receive her --we are
very conscious of her charms but we may not on
that account betray the truth.
20Platos View
- If her defense fails, then, my dear friend, like
other persons who are enamoured of something, but
put a restraint upon themselves when they think
their desires are opposed to their interests, so
too must we after the manner of lovers give her
up, though not without a struggle. We too are
inspired by that love of poetry which the
education of noble States has implanted in us,
and therefore we would have her appear at her
best and truest but so long as she is unable to
make good her defense, this argument of ours
shall be a charm to us, which we will repeat to
ourselves while we listen to her strains that we
may not fall away into the childish love of her
which captivates the many. At all events we are
well aware that poetry being such as we have
described is not to be regarded seriously as
attaining to the truth and he who listens to
her, fearing for the safety of the city which is
within him, should be on his guard against her
seductions and make our words his law.
21Platos View
- At all events we are well aware that poetry being
such as we have described is not to be regarded
seriously as attaining to the truth and he who
listens to her, fearing for the safety of the
city which is within him, should be on his guard
against her seductions and make our words his law.
22Platos View
- Entire Republic can be seen as an argument for
allowing Philosophy to do the work accorded to
Poetry - In Platos defense, today it is widely agreed
that the arts do not produce the kind of reliable
knowledge or moral wisdom that the sciences and
philosophical argument produce. (And Artist still
bay at Science and Philosophy) - But do we beg the question against the arts by
looking exclusively for propositional knowledge
(see renderings of molecules). - Arthur Danto reminds us, "Plato did not precisely
propose that art was mimesis, but that mimetic
art was pernicious."
23Aristotles Critical Responses
- Aristotle was Plato's most famous student and
greatest critic. - Disagreeing with much else that Plato said,
Aristotle agreed that art was essentially an
Mimesis. - But, he maintained, (good) art was neither
useless nor dangerous, but rather natural and
beneficial.
24Aristotles Critical Responses
- Crucial to Aristotle's defense of art is his
- Rejection of Plato's Dualism.
- Man is not an "embodied" intellect, longing for
the spiritual release of death, but rather and
animal with, among all the other faculties, the
ability to use reason and to create. - Rejection of Platos Rationalism (w.r.t. Human
Nature) - We must study humans as we would study other
animals to discover what is their "nature." Look
among the species see who are the thriving and
successful and in what activities do they engage?
For Aristotle, this is how to determine what is
and is not appropriate for a human and human
societies. - Rejections that Mimesis Mirroring Nature
25Aristotles Critical Responses Art is Not
Useless
- It is Natural
- It is natural for human beings to imitate.
- Any human society which is healthy will be a
society where there is imitative art. - Nothing is more natural than for children to
pretend. - Art production and training is a necessary part
of any education since it uses and encourages the
imaginative manipulation of ideas. - Nothing is more natural than for human beings to
create using their imagination. - Since art is imitation, it is an imaginative use
of concepts at its heart art is "conceptual,"
"intellectual."
26Aristotles Critical Responses Good Art is Not
Dangerous
- A. Art is not deceptive
- Artists must accurately portray reality to be
successful. - (Drama must accurately portray psychological
reality in order for characters to be believable
and their actions understandable.) - It teaches effectively and it teaches the truth.
- (Convincing and powerful drama is convincing and
powerful because it reveals some truth of human
nature.) - Introduces the concept of "Organic Unity" the
idea that in any good work of art each of the
parts must contribute to the overall success of
the whole. - (Just as in biological organisms each part
contributes to the overall health and well-being
of the creature, so too in good- works of art,
each element must contribute to the thematic
development. This is another way in which works
of art reflects or imitates reality.) - Unified action, "with its several incidents so
closely connected that the transposal or
withdrawal of any one of them will disjoin and
dislocate the whole,"
27Aristotles Critical Responses Good Art is Not
Dangerous
- B.) Sensuous art is not a bad thing
- Aristotle did not believe that the mind was one
thing and the body was something else and
therefore Aristotle did not have the bias against
physical pleasures that Plato did. - The only way of acquiring knowledge at all,
according to Aristotle, was through the senses
and so developing, exercising and sharpening
those senses through art was a healthy thing to
do. - Art was not solely concerned with the sensual
pleasures, but rather was/should be an
intellectual, conceptual affair.
28Aristotles Critical Responses Good Art is Not
Dangerous
- D. (Good) Art is institutionally tied to Morality
and Truth - (Successful Tragic) Drama always teaches
morality. When trying to understand how
tragedies achieve their peculiar effect (Pathos),
he notes the psychology and morality on which
they must be based. - NB Aristotle believed that drama imitated not
only "events" but actions. As such they imitated
intended behaviors, psychological forces and the
unseen "inner life" of persons. - Note too that he unwittingly set up two functions
for a work of art to fulfill to imitate nature
perceptual detail and to imitate natures
"organic unity" (music, architecture).
29Aristotles Critical Responses Good Art is Not
Dangerous
- CE.
- Aristotle agreed that art did stir up negative
emotions but, he claims it then purged these in
an harmless, healthy way. - Doctrine of Catharsis"
- Art was neither psychologically de-stabilizing
nor politically destructive. - Art is a therapeutic part of the healthy life of
not only the individually, but of the nation. - NB Similar to arguments made today in defense
of graphically sexual or violent art or even of
pornography or of violence on television.
30Aristotles Critical Responses Mimesis ?
Imitation
- Mimesis ? Imitation (Mirroring)
- More like
- Rendering
- Depicting
- Construing
- Idealizing
- Representing
- NB Unlike mirroring, these are acts of intellect.
31Aristotles Critical Responses
- Poetry is more Philosophical than History
- "poetry is something more philosophic and of
graver import than history (He means a mere
chronicle of events here.), since its statements
are of the nature rather of universals, whereas
those of history are singulars." - Poetry describes "not the thing that has
happened" as Aristotle imagines history does "but
a kind of thing that might happen, (i.e. what is
possible) as being probable or necessary" - Thus a mere mirror of history NOT art. Art is
necessarily conceptual/cognitive.
32Aristotles Critical Responses
- A further point here
- Art displays and transmits this knowledge in an
unique way. The audience must understand the
universals at work in the drama to be carried
away by the drama, and in that sense they must
internalize, adopt it as his or her own, the
knowledge of human nature and morality utilized
by the playwright.
33Platos and Aristotles ViewArt is Essentially
Mimesis
- Art was potentially dangerous for several
reasons - A.) Art was essentially deceptive. (Ep.)
- B.) Art was mainly concerned with sensual
pleasure. (M, Ep., Eth.) - C.) Further, Art was psychologically
de-stabilizing. (for the individual) (Eth., Ps.) - D.) Art leads to immorality. (Eth.)
- E.) Art was politically dangerous. (threat to the
common good) (Po. Ps.)
- Art was not potentially dangerous for several
reasons - A.) (Good) Art was essentially truthful. (Ep.)
- B.) Art was mainly concerned with sensual
pleasure, and thats a Good thing. (M, Ep., Eth.) - C.) Art was psychologically healthy (for the
individual) (Eth., Ps.) - D.) Art leads to moral knowledge. (Eth.)
- E.) Art was politically necessary and healthy.
(Po. Ps.)
34Nelson GoodmanArt as Representation
- Can be seen as a continuation of the idea that
Art is (and is essentially) about something. - He rejects the idea that Art is an Imitation of
nature if imitation is understood as mirroring or
copying. - He accepts the idea that art-making is a
cognitive act of representing reality.
35Goodmans Analysis of Representation in Visual
Art
- Two Questions Arise
- What is the mechanism of representation?
- If representational doesnt depend of Copying or
Mirroring, why is it that so much
Representational Art DOES seem to resemble the
objects, etc. they represent?
36Goodmans Analysis of Representation in Visual
Art
- What is the Mechanism of representation?
- Illusion theory?
- But this overlooks how people should and do
respond to (even very realistic) art. - Resemblance theory?
- But resemblance to what and in what way?
- (Anything might be said to resemble anything
else. No simile is, technically, false.) - Well
37Goodmans Criticisms of Resemblance Theory
- A Resemblance to the way the world really is.
- But according to Goodman, the world really is
as many ways at is can be truly described. And
no picture can capture that.
38Goodmans Criticisms of Resemblance Theory
- A The way the world really is for perception.
(whos) - A The way the world really is for human
perception. (which ones?) - A The way the world really is for ordinary,
normal human perception. (more spcs) - (from a particular angle, at a certain distance,
with one eye closed, through a peep-hole, the see
eye unmoving)
39 40Goodmans Criticisms of Resemblance Theory
- As the object looks to the normal eye, at
proper range, from a favorable angle, in good
light, without instrumentation, unprejudiced by
affections or animosities or interests, and
unembellished by thought or interpretation. - In short, the object is to be copied as seen
under septic conditions by the free and innocent
eye. - But this requires that there BE such a thing as
an innocent eye. - Ernst Gombrich claims that there is no innocent
eye - The eye comes always ancient to its work,
obsessed by its own past and by old and new
insinuations of the ear, nose, tongue, fingers,
heart, and brain. - It does not much mirror as take and make.
41Goodman Looks at Representation
- Maybe were on the wrong track.
- Notice resemblance is neither necessary nor
sufficient for representation. - Further, resemblance is a symmetric relation and
representation is not. - What is it for X to represent Y?
42Goodman Looks at Representation
- What is it for X to represent Y?
- According to Goodman, there is no Natural
representation. - All representation depends on a pre-existing
symbol system. - If pictures represent, they must be understood as
symbols within a symbol system.
43Goodman Looks at Representation
- But this implies that we must learn to read
even realistic pictures. (And photos.) - This process may be automatic and unconscious,
but it is no less cognitive than hearing and
understanding a sentence in ones native
language. - We learn to see x as standing for, or even
resembling, y.
44Goodman Looks at Representation
- A representation or description, by virtue of how
it classifies and is classified, may make or mark
connections, analyze objects, and organize the
world (as we experience it). - Grasps fresh and significant relationships.
- Standard sorting is often serviceable, even if
humdrum. - Novel uses of old categories bring out neglected
likenesses and differences, force unaccustomed
associations, and in some measure remake our
world.
45Goodman Looks at Representation
- EX His graduate assistant is panting puppy.
- This requires you to see both as members of
the same set and thus clarifies a heretofore
overlooked property. - (Perhaps both belong to the class of things
which seek approval give enthusiastic, uncritical
support.) - NOTE If representing is a matter of classifying
objects rather than of imitating them, of
characterizing rather than of copying, it is not
a matter of passive recording.
46Goodman Looks at Representation
- And if this aim of the picture is achieved, it
effects a realignment in our thinking. - (So long as theres poetry art- 1984 cant
happen.) - When such a realignment is interesting and
useful, the picture, like a crucial experiment,
can be said to make a genuine contribution to
knowledge. (We can think new thoughts.)
47Goodman Looks at Representation
- Consider this
- To the complaint that his portrait of Gertrude
Stein did not look like her, Picasso is said to
have answered - "No matter it will.
- On Goodmans view, this is because we will come
to see Gertrude Stein in terms of her portrait. - Nature is a product of art and discourse
48Goodman Looks at Representation
- But what about Realism in Representation?
- Even if not necessary, dont (some) Realistic
Representations achieve representation via
non-cognitive means (i.e. visual resemblance)?
49Goodman Looks at Representation
- What constitutes realism of representation?
- Possible Answer 1
- A picture is realistic just to the extent that it
is a successful illusion, leading the viewer to
suppose that it is, or that it has the
characteristics of, what it represents. - Advantages over the resemblance theory because
- it emphasizes the responses and expectations of
the viewer (rather than content to be copied). - It can account for fictive representations (no
question of resemblance to what?)
50Goodman Looks at Representation
- Problems
- What deceives depends upon what is
observed/expected, and what is observed/expected
varies with interests and habits. - What will deceive me into supposing that an
object of a given kind is before me depends upon
what I have noticed about such objects, and this
in turn is affected by the way I am used to
seeing them depicted. - Consider the various attempts to mask the signs
of aging. What would have worked in the 1700s
no longer does because we have come to notice
other signs. - 2. If the probability of actual confusion is 1,
we no longer have representation we have
identity. - 3. Probability of real confusion seldom rises
above zero. Seeing a picture as a picture
precludes mistaking it for anything else. - 4. Appropriate conditions of observation defeat
deception. - According to Goodman, When viewing a
representational painting I recognize the images
as signs for the objects and characteristics
represented, signs that work instantly and
unequivocally without being confused with what
they denote.
51Goodman Looks at Representation
- Possible Answer 2
- For realistic representation, the most realistic
picture is the one that provides the greatest
amount of pertinent information. - Problem
- Reversed perspective and colors, appropriately
interpreted, yields exactly the same information.
Realistic and unrealistic pictures may be
equally informative. Since it provides the same
true information it is faithful though not
realistic. Thus correctness or truth is not a
sufficient condition for realism.
52Goodman Looks at Representation
- But it might be objected, in really realistic
pictures, information contained easily issues
form it. Like second nature - Well, not if you accept Goodman Big Point
- Even Realistic Pictures must be learned to be
read. - Thus
- How easily the information issues from the
picture depends upon how stereotyped the mode of
representation is (upon how commonplace the
labels and their uses have become). - Realism is relative. (i.e. determined by the
system of representation standard for a given
culture or person at a given time). - No pictures (real or possible) are Absolutely
realistic. - Whether a picture is judged to be realistic
depends at any time entirely upon what frame or
mode is then standard for the one doing the
judging.
53Goodman Looks at Representation
- Realistic representation, in brief, depends not
upon imitation or illusion or information but
upon inculcation. - Our (western) tendency to link representation and
realism and resemblance stems from the fact that
our representational customs, which govern
realism, also tend to generate resemblance. - Consider the various attempts to mask the signs
of aging. What would have worked in the 1700s
no longer does because we have come to notice
other signs. - Individual judgements of similarity are more or
less objective and categorical, but the
assessment of total resemblance is subject to
influences galore, and our representational
customs are not least among these.
54Goodman Looks at Representation
- Thus there is no the crucial difference between
pictorial and verbal properties, between
nonlinguistic and linguistic symbols or systems,
which makes a difference between representation
in general and description. - Goodman subsumes a pictorial representation under
the category of a description. - Analogy between pictorial representation and
verbal description. - Reference to an object is a necessary condition
for depiction or description of it, but no degree
of resemblance is a necessary or sufficient
condition for either. -
55Goodman Looks at Representation
- Application and classification of a label are the
products of stipulation and habituation in
varying proportions. - The choice among systems is free but given a
system, the question whether a newly encountered
object is a desk or a unicorn-picture or is
represented by a certain painting is a question
of the propriety, under that system, of
projecting the predicate "desk" or the predicate
"unicorn-picture" or the painting over the thing
in question, and the decision both is guided by
and guides usage for that system. - Representation is thus disengaged from perverted
ideas of it as an idiosyncratic physical process
like mirroring, and is recognized as a Symbolic
relationship that is relative and variable.