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Some Notes on Plato and Aristotle and Mimetic
Theory of Art
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Some Notes on Plato and Aristotle and Mimetic
Theory of Art
  • And a lot of other stuff.

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The Mimetic Theory of Art
  • Art is essentially an imitation of Nature.

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The Mimetic Theory of Art
  • Think of the first four letters M I M E
  • Art is essentially an mimicry of nature
  • Paintings are supposed to look just like the
    real thing etc.
  • Arguably the oldest and most widely held view on
    the nature of art. (View held by Plato, et alia.)
  • Seems to capture a lot of art (certainly within
    Platos time).

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The Mimetic Theory of Art
  • Problems
  • How does this handle music?, abstract art?
  • What is mimesis exactly? (Imitation,
    mirroring, perceptual equivalence,
    counterfeiting, idealization, representation?)
  • If I say that the point of a picture is to
    capture the world exactly as it really is, what
    am I assuming?
  • (Star Trek story here- or, to save time, picture
    of Grand Canyon)

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The Mimetic Theory of Art
  • But lets look as Platos View anyway
  • Believed that art is essentially an imitation of
    nature. (Mimetic Theory of Art)
  • Therefore, (according to Plato) art is at best
  • (1) useless and
  • (2) potentially dangerous.

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Platos ViewArt is Essentially Mimesis
  • Plato is convinced that the arts form a natural
    grouping and that they all share a common Form
  • I.E. That which all and only Arts have in
    common by virtue of which we recognize each to be
    an art and by virtue of which each is an art.
  • Not so much an assumption, as the consequence of
    his Metaphysical Theory of Forms.
  • We rightly gather them together linguistically
    because of a metaphysical reality.

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Platos ViewArt is Essentially Mimesis
  • As 20th Century Formalist Clive Bell put is
  • "either all works of visual art have some common
    quality, or when we speak of 'works of art' we
    gibber."

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Platos ViewArt is Essentially Mimesis
  • 1. Art was useless
  • It serves no useful purpose in society.
  • As a "Imitation of Nature" it added no knowledge.
    No intellectual value-
  • (The same value could be added by simply by
    holding up a mirror to the world which would be
    far less costly.)
  • According his metaphysics, art is an imitation of
    an imitation, thus barely real at all.

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Platos ViewArt is Essentially Mimesis
  • Art was potentially dangerous for several
    reasons
  • A.) Art was essentially deceptive.
  • The whole aim of art was to deceive. Success was
    achieved when the spectator mistook an imitation
    for reality.
  • Furthermore, artists were unconcerned with
    facts/truth. It made no difference to artists
    nor to the success of their works whether the
    images or stories they depict were real or their
    messages true or good.

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Platos ViewArt is Essentially Mimesis
  • B.) Art was mainly concerned with sensual
    pleasure.
  • Art seems directed entirely towards pleasing the
    senses and ignoring the mind, intellect, or
    concepts.

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Platos ViewArt is Essentially Mimesis
  • Remember that, according to Platonic Mind/Body
    Dualism, our bodies are the least valuable, least
    permanent, least "real" aspects of our
    personalities.
  • Further, according to Platos Rationalism, our
    senses are incapable of providing us with genuine
    knowledge since they only gather impressions from
    an ever-changing physical world but not
    immaterial/invisible forces which guide, direct
    and sustain the physical world.
  • Thus our senses and, consequently, art are
    "metaphysically" misguided since it is directed
    towards illusion and not "reality."
  • Further, Art serves to perpetuate and sustain
    this misdirection, keeping us ignorant of truth,
    justice, goodness and "real" beauty.

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Platos ViewArt is Essentially Mimesis
  • B.) Art was mainly concerned with sensual
    pleasure.
  • NB Note this has not only a Metaphysical and
    Epistemological Dimension this has an Ethical
    Dimension as well.
  • This has Ethical overtones, not so much in the
    Later Christian Condemnation of Sensualism, but
    rather the more Greek notion, that this was a
    pathetic way to waste a human life. (Too much
    T.V.- Cartoons)
  • Ethical in the sense that this is simply not
    what one (human) ought to do.
  • Think of the uncanny similarity between the
    imprisoned slaves in Platos Allegory of the
    Cave who mistakenly take the shadows to be all
    there is to reality, an those who in a darkened
    cinema sob uncontrollably when Leonardo DiCaprio
    goes down for the last time.

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Platos ViewArt is Essentially Mimesis
  • B.) Art was mainly concerned with sensual
    pleasure.
  • Humankind lingers unregenerately in Platos cave,
    still reveling, its age old habit, in mere images
    of truth. (Susan Sontag)
  • It must be admitted that if imitation is the sole
    purpose of the graphic arts, it is surprising
    that the works of such arts are ever looked upon
    as more than curiosities, or ingenious toys, are
    ever taken seriously by grown-up people. (Roger
    Fry)

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Platos ViewArt is Essentially Mimesis
  • c.) Art is psychologically de-stabilizing.
  • Human existence is, in great part, a struggle to
    master the emotions and sensual urges by using
    reason and intellect according to Plato. (His
    tri-partite theory of the Psyche)
  • Therefore art was dangerous and counterproductive
    to this end (i.e. rational self-mastery) since it
    appeals not to reason and intellect, but to the
    psychological forces which constantly try to
    over-through reason, namely passion and emotion.
  • "Poetry feeds and waters the passions instead of
    drying them up she lets them rule, although they
    ought to be controlled, if mankind are ever to
    increase in happiness and virtue"

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Platos ViewArt is Essentially Mimesis
  • D.) Art leads to immorality.
  • Art was unconcerned with morality, sometimes even
    teaching immoral lessons. (The Iliad) Morality,
    it would seem, has nothing to do with a works
    success as art.
  • Plato worries that such art would encourage
    immorality in the citizens of this state. People
    might uncritically accept and admire immoral,
    vicious traits when they are attractively
    packaged by skilled artists (distinction between
    truth and illusion/ physicians and cooks/ heath
    and cosmetics/ beauty and glamour.)
  • Like a skilled chef, artists are only interested
    in pleasing the palate, even if it poisons the
    diner. Since (mimetic) art is institutionally
    divorced from truth, goodness or any concern with
    'real' beauty, it creates an environment of
    superficial "flavors" where all sorts of
    atrocities can be made to seem a tempting
    confection.

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Platos ViewArt is Essentially Mimesis
  • E.) Art was politically dangerous, a threat to
    the common good.
  • Similar to the point made earlier (c), Plato
    worried that strong art which appeals to emotions
    stirs up negative emotions which we are trying to
    control.
  • But this is more than just a problem for the
    individual. For a people with a history of
    "mania," strong, emotion-stirring art is rightly
    seen as a threat to the good of state/community.
  • It was, therefore correctly the concern of
    government.
  • NB This is similar to the criticism leveled by
    some today against violence and sex in the media.
    Like Plato, they argue that violence and sex in
    the media cause us to be a more violent, sexually
    obsessed culture. This affects not just the
    people who consume the violent images, but the
    entire community of which they are a part.

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Platos ViewArt is Essentially Mimesis
  • Art was potentially dangerous for several
    reasons
  • A.) Art was essentially deceptive. (Ep.)
  • B.) Art was mainly concerned with sensual
    pleasure. (M, Ep., Eth.)
  • C.) Further, Art was psychologically
    de-stabilizing. (for the individual) (Eth., Ps.)
  • D.) Art leads to immorality. (Eth.)
  • E.) Art was politically dangerous. (threat to the
    common good) (Po. Ps.)

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Platos View
  • there is an ancient quarrel between philosophy
    and poetry of which there are many proofs, such
    as the saying of 'the yelping hound howling at
    her lord,' or of one 'mighty in the vain talk of
    fools,' and 'the mob of sages circumventing
    Zeus,' and the 'subtle thinkers who are beggars
    after all' and there are innumerable other signs
    of ancient enmity between them. Notwithstanding
    this, let us assure our sweet friend and the
    sister arts of imitation that if she will only
    prove her title to exist in a well-ordered State
    we shall be delighted to receive her --we are
    very conscious of her charms but we may not on
    that account betray the truth.

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Platos View
  • If her defense fails, then, my dear friend, like
    other persons who are enamoured of something, but
    put a restraint upon themselves when they think
    their desires are opposed to their interests, so
    too must we after the manner of lovers give her
    up, though not without a struggle. We too are
    inspired by that love of poetry which the
    education of noble States has implanted in us,
    and therefore we would have her appear at her
    best and truest but so long as she is unable to
    make good her defense, this argument of ours
    shall be a charm to us, which we will repeat to
    ourselves while we listen to her strains that we
    may not fall away into the childish love of her
    which captivates the many. At all events we are
    well aware that poetry being such as we have
    described is not to be regarded seriously as
    attaining to the truth and he who listens to
    her, fearing for the safety of the city which is
    within him, should be on his guard against her
    seductions and make our words his law.

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Platos View
  • At all events we are well aware that poetry being
    such as we have described is not to be regarded
    seriously as attaining to the truth and he who
    listens to her, fearing for the safety of the
    city which is within him, should be on his guard
    against her seductions and make our words his law.

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Platos View
  • Entire Republic can be seen as an argument for
    allowing Philosophy to do the work accorded to
    Poetry
  • In Platos defense, today it is widely agreed
    that the arts do not produce the kind of reliable
    knowledge or moral wisdom that the sciences and
    philosophical argument produce. (And Artist still
    bay at Science and Philosophy)
  • But do we beg the question against the arts by
    looking exclusively for propositional knowledge
    (see renderings of molecules).
  • Arthur Danto reminds us, "Plato did not precisely
    propose that art was mimesis, but that mimetic
    art was pernicious."

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Aristotles Critical Responses
  • Aristotle was Plato's most famous student and
    greatest critic.
  • Disagreeing with much else that Plato said,
    Aristotle agreed that art was essentially an
    Mimesis.
  • But, he maintained, (good) art was neither
    useless nor dangerous, but rather natural and
    beneficial.

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Aristotles Critical Responses
  • Crucial to Aristotle's defense of art is his
  • Rejection of Plato's Dualism.
  • Man is not an "embodied" intellect, longing for
    the spiritual release of death, but rather and
    animal with, among all the other faculties, the
    ability to use reason and to create.
  • Rejection of Platos Rationalism (w.r.t. Human
    Nature)
  • We must study humans as we would study other
    animals to discover what is their "nature." Look
    among the species see who are the thriving and
    successful and in what activities do they engage?
    For Aristotle, this is how to determine what is
    and is not appropriate for a human and human
    societies.
  • Rejections that Mimesis Mirroring Nature

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Aristotles Critical Responses Art is Not
Useless
  • It is Natural
  • It is natural for human beings to imitate.
  • Any human society which is healthy will be a
    society where there is imitative art.
  • Nothing is more natural than for children to
    pretend.
  • Art production and training is a necessary part
    of any education since it uses and encourages the
    imaginative manipulation of ideas.
  • Nothing is more natural than for human beings to
    create using their imagination.
  • Since art is imitation, it is an imaginative use
    of concepts at its heart art is "conceptual,"
    "intellectual."

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Aristotles Critical Responses Good Art is Not
Dangerous
  • A. Art is not deceptive
  • Artists must accurately portray reality to be
    successful.
  • (Drama must accurately portray psychological
    reality in order for characters to be believable
    and their actions understandable.)
  • It teaches effectively and it teaches the truth.
  • (Convincing and powerful drama is convincing and
    powerful because it reveals some truth of human
    nature.)
  • Introduces the concept of "Organic Unity" the
    idea that in any good work of art each of the
    parts must contribute to the overall success of
    the whole.
  • (Just as in biological organisms each part
    contributes to the overall health and well-being
    of the creature, so too in good- works of art,
    each element must contribute to the thematic
    development. This is another way in which works
    of art reflects or imitates reality.)
  • Unified action, "with its several incidents so
    closely connected that the transposal or
    withdrawal of any one of them will disjoin and
    dislocate the whole,"

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Aristotles Critical Responses Good Art is Not
Dangerous
  • B.) Sensuous art is not a bad thing
  • Aristotle did not believe that the mind was one
    thing and the body was something else and
    therefore Aristotle did not have the bias against
    physical pleasures that Plato did.
  • The only way of acquiring knowledge at all,
    according to Aristotle, was through the senses
    and so developing, exercising and sharpening
    those senses through art was a healthy thing to
    do.
  • Art was not solely concerned with the sensual
    pleasures, but rather was/should be an
    intellectual, conceptual affair.

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Aristotles Critical Responses Good Art is Not
Dangerous
  • D. (Good) Art is institutionally tied to Morality
    and Truth
  • (Successful Tragic) Drama always teaches
    morality. When trying to understand how
    tragedies achieve their peculiar effect (Pathos),
    he notes the psychology and morality on which
    they must be based.
  • NB Aristotle believed that drama imitated not
    only "events" but actions. As such they imitated
    intended behaviors, psychological forces and the
    unseen "inner life" of persons.
  • Note too that he unwittingly set up two functions
    for a work of art to fulfill to imitate nature
    perceptual detail and to imitate natures
    "organic unity" (music, architecture).

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Aristotles Critical Responses Good Art is Not
Dangerous
  • CE.
  • Aristotle agreed that art did stir up negative
    emotions but, he claims it then purged these in
    an harmless, healthy way.
  • Doctrine of Catharsis"
  • Art was neither psychologically de-stabilizing
    nor politically destructive.
  • Art is a therapeutic part of the healthy life of
    not only the individually, but of the nation.
  • NB Similar to arguments made today in defense
    of graphically sexual or violent art or even of
    pornography or of violence on television.

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Aristotles Critical Responses Mimesis ?
Imitation
  • Mimesis ? Imitation (Mirroring)
  • More like
  • Rendering
  • Depicting
  • Construing
  • Idealizing
  • Representing
  • NB Unlike mirroring, these are acts of intellect.

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Aristotles Critical Responses
  • Poetry is more Philosophical than History
  • "poetry is something more philosophic and of
    graver import than history (He means a mere
    chronicle of events here.), since its statements
    are of the nature rather of universals, whereas
    those of history are singulars."
  • Poetry describes "not the thing that has
    happened" as Aristotle imagines history does "but
    a kind of thing that might happen, (i.e. what is
    possible) as being probable or necessary"
  • Thus a mere mirror of history NOT art. Art is
    necessarily conceptual/cognitive.

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Aristotles Critical Responses
  • A further point here
  • Art displays and transmits this knowledge in an
    unique way. The audience must understand the
    universals at work in the drama to be carried
    away by the drama, and in that sense they must
    internalize, adopt it as his or her own, the
    knowledge of human nature and morality utilized
    by the playwright.

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Platos and Aristotles ViewArt is Essentially
Mimesis
  • Art was potentially dangerous for several
    reasons
  • A.) Art was essentially deceptive. (Ep.)
  • B.) Art was mainly concerned with sensual
    pleasure. (M, Ep., Eth.)
  • C.) Further, Art was psychologically
    de-stabilizing. (for the individual) (Eth., Ps.)
  • D.) Art leads to immorality. (Eth.)
  • E.) Art was politically dangerous. (threat to the
    common good) (Po. Ps.)
  • Art was not potentially dangerous for several
    reasons
  • A.) (Good) Art was essentially truthful. (Ep.)
  • B.) Art was mainly concerned with sensual
    pleasure, and thats a Good thing. (M, Ep., Eth.)
  • C.) Art was psychologically healthy (for the
    individual) (Eth., Ps.)
  • D.) Art leads to moral knowledge. (Eth.)
  • E.) Art was politically necessary and healthy.
    (Po. Ps.)

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Nelson GoodmanArt as Representation
  • Can be seen as a continuation of the idea that
    Art is (and is essentially) about something.
  • He rejects the idea that Art is an Imitation of
    nature if imitation is understood as mirroring or
    copying.
  • He accepts the idea that art-making is a
    cognitive act of representing reality.

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Goodmans Analysis of Representation in Visual
Art
  • Two Questions Arise
  • What is the mechanism of representation?
  • If representational doesnt depend of Copying or
    Mirroring, why is it that so much
    Representational Art DOES seem to resemble the
    objects, etc. they represent?

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Goodmans Analysis of Representation in Visual
Art
  • What is the Mechanism of representation?
  • Illusion theory?
  • But this overlooks how people should and do
    respond to (even very realistic) art.
  • Resemblance theory?
  • But resemblance to what and in what way?
  • (Anything might be said to resemble anything
    else. No simile is, technically, false.)
  • Well

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Goodmans Criticisms of Resemblance Theory
  • A Resemblance to the way the world really is.
  • But according to Goodman, the world really is
    as many ways at is can be truly described. And
    no picture can capture that.

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Goodmans Criticisms of Resemblance Theory
  • A The way the world really is for perception.
    (whos)
  • A The way the world really is for human
    perception. (which ones?)
  • A The way the world really is for ordinary,
    normal human perception. (more spcs)
  • (from a particular angle, at a certain distance,
    with one eye closed, through a peep-hole, the see
    eye unmoving)

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  • Yikes!

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Goodmans Criticisms of Resemblance Theory
  • As the object looks to the normal eye, at
    proper range, from a favorable angle, in good
    light, without instrumentation, unprejudiced by
    affections or animosities or interests, and
    unembellished by thought or interpretation.
  • In short, the object is to be copied as seen
    under septic conditions by the free and innocent
    eye.
  • But this requires that there BE such a thing as
    an innocent eye.
  • Ernst Gombrich claims that there is no innocent
    eye
  • The eye comes always ancient to its work,
    obsessed by its own past and by old and new
    insinuations of the ear, nose, tongue, fingers,
    heart, and brain.
  • It does not much mirror as take and make.

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Goodman Looks at Representation
  • Maybe were on the wrong track.
  • Notice resemblance is neither necessary nor
    sufficient for representation.
  • Further, resemblance is a symmetric relation and
    representation is not.
  • What is it for X to represent Y?

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Goodman Looks at Representation
  • What is it for X to represent Y?
  • According to Goodman, there is no Natural
    representation.
  • All representation depends on a pre-existing
    symbol system.
  • If pictures represent, they must be understood as
    symbols within a symbol system.

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Goodman Looks at Representation
  • But this implies that we must learn to read
    even realistic pictures. (And photos.)
  • This process may be automatic and unconscious,
    but it is no less cognitive than hearing and
    understanding a sentence in ones native
    language.
  • We learn to see x as standing for, or even
    resembling, y.

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Goodman Looks at Representation
  • A representation or description, by virtue of how
    it classifies and is classified, may make or mark
    connections, analyze objects, and organize the
    world (as we experience it).
  • Grasps fresh and significant relationships.
  • Standard sorting is often serviceable, even if
    humdrum.
  • Novel uses of old categories bring out neglected
    likenesses and differences, force unaccustomed
    associations, and in some measure remake our
    world.

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Goodman Looks at Representation
  • EX His graduate assistant is panting puppy.
  • This requires you to see both as members of
    the same set and thus clarifies a heretofore
    overlooked property.
  • (Perhaps both belong to the class of things
    which seek approval give enthusiastic, uncritical
    support.)
  • NOTE If representing is a matter of classifying
    objects rather than of imitating them, of
    characterizing rather than of copying, it is not
    a matter of passive recording.

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Goodman Looks at Representation
  • And if this aim of the picture is achieved, it
    effects a realignment in our thinking.
  • (So long as theres poetry art- 1984 cant
    happen.)
  • When such a realignment is interesting and
    useful, the picture, like a crucial experiment,
    can be said to make a genuine contribution to
    knowledge. (We can think new thoughts.)

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Goodman Looks at Representation
  • Consider this
  • To the complaint that his portrait of Gertrude
    Stein did not look like her, Picasso is said to
    have answered
  • "No matter it will.
  • On Goodmans view, this is because we will come
    to see Gertrude Stein in terms of her portrait.
  • Nature is a product of art and discourse

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Goodman Looks at Representation
  • But what about Realism in Representation?
  • Even if not necessary, dont (some) Realistic
    Representations achieve representation via
    non-cognitive means (i.e. visual resemblance)?

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Goodman Looks at Representation
  • What constitutes realism of representation?
  • Possible Answer 1
  • A picture is realistic just to the extent that it
    is a successful illusion, leading the viewer to
    suppose that it is, or that it has the
    characteristics of, what it represents.
  • Advantages over the resemblance theory because
  • it emphasizes the responses and expectations of
    the viewer (rather than content to be copied).
  • It can account for fictive representations (no
    question of resemblance to what?)

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Goodman Looks at Representation
  • Problems
  • What deceives depends upon what is
    observed/expected, and what is observed/expected
    varies with interests and habits.
  • What will deceive me into supposing that an
    object of a given kind is before me depends upon
    what I have noticed about such objects, and this
    in turn is affected by the way I am used to
    seeing them depicted.
  • Consider the various attempts to mask the signs
    of aging. What would have worked in the 1700s
    no longer does because we have come to notice
    other signs.
  • 2. If the probability of actual confusion is 1,
    we no longer have representation we have
    identity.
  • 3. Probability of real confusion seldom rises
    above zero. Seeing a picture as a picture
    precludes mistaking it for anything else.
  • 4. Appropriate conditions of observation defeat
    deception.
  • According to Goodman, When viewing a
    representational painting I recognize the images
    as signs for the objects and characteristics
    represented, signs that work instantly and
    unequivocally without being confused with what
    they denote.

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Goodman Looks at Representation
  • Possible Answer 2
  • For realistic representation, the most realistic
    picture is the one that provides the greatest
    amount of pertinent information.
  • Problem
  • Reversed perspective and colors, appropriately
    interpreted, yields exactly the same information.
    Realistic and unrealistic pictures may be
    equally informative. Since it provides the same
    true information it is faithful though not
    realistic. Thus correctness or truth is not a
    sufficient condition for realism.

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Goodman Looks at Representation
  • But it might be objected, in really realistic
    pictures, information contained easily issues
    form it. Like second nature
  • Well, not if you accept Goodman Big Point
  • Even Realistic Pictures must be learned to be
    read.
  • Thus
  • How easily the information issues from the
    picture depends upon how stereotyped the mode of
    representation is (upon how commonplace the
    labels and their uses have become).
  • Realism is relative. (i.e. determined by the
    system of representation standard for a given
    culture or person at a given time).
  • No pictures (real or possible) are Absolutely
    realistic.
  • Whether a picture is judged to be realistic
    depends at any time entirely upon what frame or
    mode is then standard for the one doing the
    judging.

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Goodman Looks at Representation
  • Realistic representation, in brief, depends not
    upon imitation or illusion or information but
    upon inculcation.
  • Our (western) tendency to link representation and
    realism and resemblance stems from the fact that
    our representational customs, which govern
    realism, also tend to generate resemblance.
  • Consider the various attempts to mask the signs
    of aging. What would have worked in the 1700s
    no longer does because we have come to notice
    other signs.
  • Individual judgements of similarity are more or
    less objective and categorical, but the
    assessment of total resemblance is subject to
    influences galore, and our representational
    customs are not least among these.

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Goodman Looks at Representation
  • Thus there is no the crucial difference between
    pictorial and verbal properties, between
    nonlinguistic and linguistic symbols or systems,
    which makes a difference between representation
    in general and description.
  • Goodman subsumes a pictorial representation under
    the category of a description.
  • Analogy between pictorial representation and
    verbal description.
  • Reference to an object is a necessary condition
    for depiction or description of it, but no degree
    of resemblance is a necessary or sufficient
    condition for either.

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Goodman Looks at Representation
  • Application and classification of a label are the
    products of stipulation and habituation in
    varying proportions.
  • The choice among systems is free but given a
    system, the question whether a newly encountered
    object is a desk or a unicorn-picture or is
    represented by a certain painting is a question
    of the propriety, under that system, of
    projecting the predicate "desk" or the predicate
    "unicorn-picture" or the painting over the thing
    in question, and the decision both is guided by
    and guides usage for that system.
  • Representation is thus disengaged from perverted
    ideas of it as an idiosyncratic physical process
    like mirroring, and is recognized as a Symbolic
    relationship that is relative and variable.
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