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Title: The GSI anomaly


1
The GSI anomaly
  • Alexander Merle
  • Max-Planck-Institute for Nuclear Physics
  • Heidelberg
  • Based on H. Kienert, J. Kopp, M. Lindner, AM
  • The GSI anomaly
  • 0808.2389 hep-ph
  • Neutrino 2008 Conf. Proc.
  • Trento, 18.11.2008

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Contents
  1. The Observation at GSI
  2. The Experiment
  3. Problems Errors
  4. Our more formal Treatment
  5. One question
  6. Conclusions

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1. The Observation at GSI
Periodic modula-tion of the expect-ed exponential
law in EC-decays of different highly charged ions
(Pm-142 Pr-140)
Litvinov et al Phys. Lett. B664, 162 (2008)
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1. The Observation at GSI
Periodic modula-tion of the expect-ed exponential
law in EC-decays of different highly charged ions
(Pm-142 Pr-140)
exponential law
Litvinov et al Phys. Lett. B664, 162 (2008)
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1. The Observation at GSI
Periodic modula-tion of the expect-ed exponential
law in EC-decays of different highly charged ions
(Pm-142 Pr-140)
periodic modulation
exponential law
Litvinov et al Phys. Lett. B664, 162 (2008)
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1. The Observation at GSI
Periodic modula-tion of the expect-ed exponential
law in EC-decays of different highly charged ions
(Pm-142 Pr-140)
Litvinov et al Phys. Lett. B664, 162 (2008)
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2. The Experiment
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2. The Experiment
See previous talk by Yuri Litvinov!
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2. The Experiment
See previous talk by Yuri Litvinov! ? I will only
give a short summary.
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2. The Experiment
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2. The Experiment
Injection of a single type of ions

12
2. The Experiment
Injection of a single type of ions
? Storage in the Experimental Storage Ring
(ESR)
13
2. The Experiment
Injection of a single type of ions
? Storage in the Experimental Storage Ring
(ESR) ? Cooling (stochastic
electron)
14
2. The Experiment
Injection of a single type of ions
? Storage in the Experimental Storage Ring
(ESR) ? Cooling (stochastic
electron) ? Frenquency
measurement (by Schottky-Pickups)
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2. The Experiment
Injection of a single type of ions
? Storage in the Experimental Storage Ring
(ESR) ? Cooling (stochastic
electron) ? Frenquency
measurement (by Schottky-Pickups) ? due to
cooling (?v/v ? 0), the fre-quency only depends
on the mass over charge ratio M/Q
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Lifetime determination
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Lifetime determination
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Lifetime determination
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Lifetime determination
  • the lifetimes of individual ions are determined

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Lifetime determination
  • the lifetimes of individual ions are determined
  • their distribution is plotted

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Lifetime determination
  • the lifetimes of individual ions are determined
  • their distribution is plotted
  • the result is NOT only an exponential law

22
3. Problems Errors
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3. Problems Errors
Experimental problems oddities
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3. Problems Errors
  • Experimental problems oddities
  • low statistics

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3. Problems Errors
  • Experimental problems oddities
  • low statistics
    only 2650
    decays of Pr and 2740 of Pm
    ? both fits, with the modified and
    pure exponential curve, are not so different
    (e.g. for Pm ?2/D.O.F.0.91 vs. 1.68)

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3. Problems Errors
  • Experimental problems oddities
  • low statistics
    only 2650
    decays of Pr and 2740 of Pm
    ? both fits, with the modified and
    pure exponential curve, are not so different
    (e.g. for Pm ?2/D.O.F.0.91 vs. 1.68)
  • unexplained statistical features (pointed out by
    us)

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3. Problems Errors
  • Experimental problems oddities
  • low statistics
    only 2650
    decays of Pr and 2740 of Pm
    ? both fits, with the modified and
    pure exponential curve, are not so different
    (e.g. for Pm ?2/D.O.F.0.91 vs. 1.68)
  • unexplained statistical features (pointed out by
    us)
  • If we take the data and subtract the best-fit
    function, the res-ulting errors are significantly
    SMALLER than the statistical error vN for N
    events.

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3. Problems Errors
  • Experimental problems oddities
  • low statistics
    only 2650
    decays of Pr and 2740 of Pm
    ? both fits, with the modified and
    pure exponential curve, are not so different
    (e.g. for Pm ?2/D.O.F.0.91 vs. 1.68)
  • unexplained statistical features (pointed out by
    us)
  • If we take the data and subtract the best-fit
    function, the res-ulting errors are significantly
    SMALLER than the statistical error vN for N
    events.
    ? Mann-Whitney-Test The
    probability that the remaining fluctuations are
    random is about 5 (a truly random list would
    give about 30 or so).

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3. Problems Errors
  • Experimental problems oddities
  • low statistics
    only 2650
    decays of Pr and 2740 of Pm
    ? both fits, with the modified and
    pure exponential curve, are not so different
    (e.g. for Pm ?2/D.O.F.0.91 vs. 1.68)
  • unexplained statistical features (pointed out by
    us)
  • If we take the data and subtract the best-fit
    function, the res-ulting errors are significantly
    SMALLER than the statistical error vN for N
    events.
    ? Mann-Whitney-Test The
    probability that the remaining fluctuations are
    random is about 5 (a truly random list would
    give about 30 or so).
    ? the fit
    function seems to confuse some fluctuations with
    real data

30
3. Problems Errors
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3. Problems Errors
Physical errors
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3. Problems Errors
  • Physical errors
  • The process is NOT analogous to neutrino
    oscillations!

33
3. Problems Errors
  • Physical errors
  • The process is NOT analogous to neutrino
    oscillations!
  • neutrino oscillations

34
3. Problems Errors
  • Physical errors
  • The process is NOT analogous to neutrino
    oscillations!
  • neutrino oscillations

35
3. Problems Errors
  • Physical errors
  • The process is NOT analogous to neutrino
    oscillations!
  • neutrino oscillations
  • the neutrino is produced as FLAVOUR eigenstate
    (e.g. ve), then propagates as superposition of
    MASS eigenstates (vi with i1,2,3, and admixtures
    Uei), and is then detected as FLAVOUR eigenstate

36
3. Problems Errors
  • Physical errors
  • The process is NOT analogous to neutrino
    oscillations!
  • neutrino oscillations
  • the neutrino is produced as FLAVOUR eigenstate
    (e.g. ve), then propagates as superposition of
    MASS eigenstates (vi with i1,2,3, and admixtures
    Uei), and is then detected as FLAVOUR eigenstate
    ? more than one way to reach THE SAME final state
    ve

37
3. Problems Errors
  • Physical errors
  • The process is NOT analogous to neutrino
    oscillations!
  • neutrino oscillations
  • the neutrino is produced as FLAVOUR eigenstate
    (e.g. ve), then propagates as superposition of
    MASS eigenstates (vi with i1,2,3, and admixtures
    Uei), and is then detected as FLAVOUR eigenstate
    ? more than one way to reach THE SAME final state
    ve ? amplitude is given by a COHERENT SUM

38
3. Problems Errors
  • Physical errors
  • The process is NOT analogous to neutrino
    oscillations!
  • neutrino oscillations
  • the neutrino is produced as FLAVOUR eigenstate
    (e.g. ve), then propagates as superposition of
    MASS eigenstates (vi with i1,2,3, and admixtures
    Uei), and is then detected as FLAVOUR eigenstate
    ? more than one way to reach THE SAME final state
    ve ? amplitude is given by a COHERENT SUM

39
3. Problems Errors
  • Physical errors
  • The process is NOT analogous to neutrino
    oscillations!
  • GSI experiment

40
3. Problems Errors
  • Physical errors
  • The process is NOT analogous to neutrino
    oscillations!
  • GSI experiment

41
3. Problems Errors
  • Physical errors
  • The process is NOT analogous to neutrino
    oscillations!
  • GSI experiment
  • the neutrino is produced as FLAVOUR eigenstate
    (e.g. ve) and then propagates as superposition of
    MASS eigenstates (vi with i1,2,3, and admixtures
    Uei)

42
3. Problems Errors
  • Physical errors
  • The process is NOT analogous to neutrino
    oscillations!
  • GSI experiment
  • the neutrino is produced as FLAVOUR eigenstate
    (e.g. ve) and then propagates as superposition of
    MASS eigenstates (vi with i1,2,3, and admixtures
    Uei)
    ? BUT there is no second FLAVOUR
    measurement

43
3. Problems Errors
  • Physical errors
  • The process is NOT analogous to neutrino
    oscillations!
  • GSI experiment
  • the neutrino is produced as FLAVOUR eigenstate
    (e.g. ve) and then propagates as superposition of
    MASS eigenstates (vi with i1,2,3, and admixtures
    Uei)
    ? BUT there is no second FLAVOUR
    measurement ? amplitude is given by
    an INCOHERENT SUM

44
3. Problems Errors
  • Physical errors
  • The process is NOT analogous to neutrino
    oscillations!
  • GSI experiment
  • the neutrino is produced as FLAVOUR eigenstate
    (e.g. ve) and then propagates as superposition of
    MASS eigenstates (vi with i1,2,3, and admixtures
    Uei)
    ? BUT there is no second FLAVOUR
    measurement ? amplitude is given by
    an INCOHERENT SUM

45
3. Problems Errors
  • Physical errors
  • This has been done differently in

46
3. Problems Errors
  • Physical errors
  • This has been done differently in
    - Ivanov, Reda,
    Kienle 0801.2121 nucl-th
    - Ivanov, Kryshen,
    Pitschmann, Kienle 0804.1311 nucl-th
    - Ivanov, Kryshen, Pitschmann,
    Kienle Phys. Rev. Lett. 101, 182501 (2008)
    - Faber 0801.3262 nucl-th

    - Lipkin 0801.1465 hep-ph

    - Lipkin 0805.0435
    hep-ph
    - Walker
    Nature 453, 864 (2008)

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3. Problems Errors
  • Physical errors
  • This has been done differently in
    - Ivanov, Reda,
    Kienle 0801.2121 nucl-th
    - Ivanov, Kryshen,
    Pitschmann, Kienle 0804.1311 nucl-th
    - Ivanov, Kryshen,
    Pitschmann, Kienle Phys. Rev. Lett. 101, 182501
    (2008) - Faber 0801.3262
    nucl-th
    - Lipkin
    0801.1465 hep-ph
    -
    Lipkin 0805.0435 hep-ph

    - Walker Nature 453, 864 (2008)
  • Works that agree with us

48
3. Problems Errors
  • Physical errors
  • This has been done differently in
    - Ivanov, Reda,
    Kienle 0801.2121 nucl-th
    - Ivanov, Kryshen,
    Pitschmann, Kienle 0804.1311 nucl-th
    - Ivanov, Kryshen, Pitschmann,
    Kienle Phys. Rev. Lett. 101, 182501 (2008)
    - Faber 0801.3262 nucl-th

    - Lipkin 0801.1465 hep-ph

    - Lipkin 0805.0435
    hep-ph
    - Walker
    Nature 453, 864 (2008)
  • Works that agree with us
    - Giunti
    0801.4639 hep-ph
    -
    Giunti Phys. Lett. B665, 92 (2008)

    - Burkhardt et al. 0804.1099 hep-ph

    - Peshkin 0804.4891
    hep-ph
    - Peshkin
    0811.1765 hep-ph
    -
    Gal 0809.1213 nucl-th

    - Cohen, Glashow, Ligeti 0810.4602
    hep-ph

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3. Problems Errors
Further points
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3. Problems Errors
  • Further points
  • wrong ?m210-4 eV2 ? neither solar nor
    atmospheric ?m2

51
3. Problems Errors
  • Further points
  • wrong ?m210-4 eV2 ? neither solar nor
    atmospheric ?m2
  • necessary energy splitting ?E10-15 eV ? not
    (yet) explained, coherence over the experiment
    time doubtful

52
3. Problems Errors
  • Further points
  • wrong ?m210-4 eV2 ? neither solar nor
    atmospheric ?m2
  • necessary energy splitting ?E10-15 eV ? not
    (yet) explained, coherence over the experiment
    time doubtful
  • other (but different!) experiments have not
    found the oscila-tory behavior

    Vetter et al. 0807.0649 nucl-ex
    Faestermann et al. 0807.3297
    nucl-ex

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3. Problems Errors
  • Further points
  • wrong ?m210-4 eV2 ? neither solar nor
    atmospheric ?m2
  • necessary energy splitting ?E10-15 eV ? not
    (yet) explained, coherence over the experiment
    time doubtful
  • other (but different!) experiments have not
    found the oscila-tory behavior

    Vetter et al. 0807.0649 nucl-ex
    Faestermann et al. 0807.3297
    nucl-ex
  • wrong statement
    ve and vµ
    are called mass eigenstates by Walker, Nature
    453, 864 (2008) ? OBVIOUSLY WRONG!!!

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4. Our more formal treatment
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4. Our more formal treatment
Several works have tried to relate the
GSI-oscillations to neutrino mixing.
56
4. Our more formal treatment
Several works have tried to relate the
GSI-oscillations to neutrino mixing. We have
shown, that, even when using wave packets, this
is not the case and neutrino mixing is not
related to any oscilla-tions in the decay rate.
57
4. Our more formal treatment
Several works have tried to relate the
GSI-oscillations to neutrino mixing. We have
shown, that, even when using wave packets, this
is not the case and neutrino mixing is not
related to any oscilla-tions in the decay
rate. Our formalism
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4. Our more formal treatment
  • Several works have tried to relate the
    GSI-oscillations to neutrino mixing.
  • We have shown, that, even when using wave
    packets, this is not the case and neutrino mixing
    is not related to any oscilla-tions in the decay
    rate.
  • Our formalism
  • We describe both, mother (AM) and daughter
    (DM) nuclear state by Gaussian wave packets with
    central momentum pA0 and spread sA

59
4. Our more formal treatment
  • Several works have tried to relate the
    GSI-oscillations to neutrino mixing.
  • We have shown, that, even when using wave
    packets, this is not the case and neutrino mixing
    is not related to any oscilla-tions in the decay
    rate.
  • Our formalism
  • We describe both, mother (AM) and daughter
    (DM) nuclear state by Gaussian wave packets with
    central momentum pA0 and spread sA

60
4. Our more formal treatment
  • Several works have tried to relate the
    GSI-oscillations to neutrino mixing.
  • We have shown, that, even when using wave
    packets, this is not the case and neutrino mixing
    is not related to any oscilla-tions in the decay
    rate.
  • Our formalism
  • We describe both, mother (AM) and daughter
    (DM) nuclear state by Gaussian wave packets with
    central momentum pA0 and spread sA
  • The neutrino mass eigenstate ?j is described by
    a plane wave

61
4. Our more formal treatment
  • Several works have tried to relate the
    GSI-oscillations to neutrino mixing.
  • We have shown, that, even when using wave
    packets, this is not the case and neutrino mixing
    is not related to any oscilla-tions in the decay
    rate.
  • Our formalism
  • We describe both, mother (AM) and daughter
    (DM) nuclear state by Gaussian wave packets with
    central momentum pA0 and spread sA
  • The neutrino mass eigenstate ?j is described by
    a plane wave

62
4. Our more formal treatment
  • There is one initial state

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4. Our more formal treatment
  • There is one initial state

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4. Our more formal treatment
  • There is one initial state
  • There are three distinct final states (the
    different neutrino mass eigenstates vj are
    orthogonal vectors in Hilbert space) with
    j1,2,3

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4. Our more formal treatment
  • There is one initial state
  • There are three distinct final states (the
    different neutrino mass eigenstates vj are
    orthogonal vectors in Hilbert space) with
    j1,2,3

66
4. Our more formal treatment
  • There is one initial state
  • There are three distinct final states (the
    different neutrino mass eigenstates vj are
    orthogonal vectors in Hilbert space) with
    j1,2,3
  • Then, the Feynman rules in coordinate space tell
    us unambi-guously how to write down the decay
    amplitude

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4. Our more formal treatment
  • There is one initial state
  • There are three distinct final states (the
    different neutrino mass eigenstates vj are
    orthogonal vectors in Hilbert space) with
    j1,2,3
  • Then, the Feynman rules in coordinate space tell
    us unambi-guously how to write down the decay
    amplitude

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4. Our more formal treatment
  • We adopt the following approximations

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4. Our more formal treatment
  • We adopt the following approximations
  • we expand EM(pM2mM2)1/2 to first order in
    (pM-pM0) ? this approximation
    neglects the wave packet spreading


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4. Our more formal treatment
  • We adopt the following approximations
  • we expand EM(pM2mM2)1/2 to first order in
    (pM-pM0) ? this approximation
    neglects the wave packet spreading

    - we neglect
    the energy dependence of the pre-factors for
    mother and daughter (1/vEA ? 1/vE0A)
    ? this is okay, because
    these factors varies much more slowly than the
    Gaussian exponentials

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4. Our more formal treatment
  • We adopt the following approximations
  • we expand EM(pM2mM2)1/2 to first order in
    (pM-pM0) ? this approximation
    neglects the wave packet spreading

    - we neglect
    the energy dependence of the pre-factors for
    mother and daughter (1/vEA ? 1/vE0A)
    ? this is okay, because
    these factors varies much more slowly than the
    Gaussian exponentials
    - we also neglect the
    energy dependence of the matrix element (also
    because of slow variation)

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4. Our more formal treatment
  • one then has to evaluate Gaussian integrals like
    the following (with the group velocity
    v0Mp0M/E0M of the wave packet)

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4. Our more formal treatment
  • one then has to evaluate Gaussian integrals like
    the following (with the group velocity
    v0Mp0M/E0M of the wave packet)

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4. Our more formal treatment
  • one then has to evaluate Gaussian integrals like
    the following (with the group velocity
    v0Mp0M/E0M of the wave packet)
  • the result is

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4. Our more formal treatment
  • one then has to evaluate Gaussian integrals like
    the following (with the group velocity
    v0Mp0M/E0M of the wave packet)
  • the result is

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4. Our more formal treatment
  • one then has to evaluate Gaussian integrals like
    the following (with the group velocity
    v0Mp0M/E0M of the wave packet)
  • the result is
  • the same can be done for the daughter and one
    finally gets, after solving the time-integrals,
    too, an easy solution

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4. Our more formal treatment
  • one then has to evaluate Gaussian integrals like
    the following (with the group velocity
    v0Mp0M/E0M of the wave packet)
  • the result is
  • the same can be done for the daughter and one
    finally gets, after solving the time-integrals,
    too, an easy solution

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4. Our more formal treatment
  • here, we have used some abbreviations

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4. Our more formal treatment
  • here, we have used some abbreviations

80
4. Our more formal treatment
  • but lets go back to the point of the result

81
4. Our more formal treatment
  • but lets go back to the point of the result
  • and look more closely

82
4. Our more formal treatment
  • but lets go back to the point of the result
  • and look more closely

83
4. Our more formal treatment
  • but lets go back to the point of the result
  • and look more closely

84
4. Our more formal treatment
  • but lets go back to the point of the result
  • and look more closely

dependences on the neutrino mass eigenstates
j1,2,3
85
4. Our more formal treatment
  • but lets go back to the point of the result
  • and look more closely

dependences on the neutrino mass eigenstates
j1,2,3 ? will be summed incoherently (because
the three mass eigenstates v1, v2, and v3 are
distinct!)
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4. Our more formal treatment
  • but lets go back to the point of the result
  • and look more closely

dependences on the neutrino mass eigenstates
j1,2,3 ? will be summed incoherently (because
the three mass eigenstates v1, v2, and v3 are
distinct!)
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4. Our more formal treatment
  • of course, the phases cancel out due to the
    absolute value

88
4. Our more formal treatment
  • of course, the phases cancel out due to the
    absolute value

89
4. Our more formal treatment
  • of course, the phases cancel out due to the
    absolute value

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4. Our more formal treatment
  • of course, the phases cancel out due to the
    absolute value

This seems to be easy, but has inspite of that
caused a lot of confusion in the community
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4. Our more formal treatment
  • the only possibility for oscillations if the
    initial state is a superposition of several
    states n of different energies

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4. Our more formal treatment
  • the only possibility for oscillations if the
    initial state is a superposition of several
    states n of different energies

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4. Our more formal treatment
  • the only possibility for oscillations if the
    initial state is a superposition of several
    states n of different energies
  • then, also the phases F get a dependence on n

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4. Our more formal treatment
  • the only possibility for oscillations if the
    initial state is a superposition of several
    states n of different energies
  • then, also the phases F get a dependence on n

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4. Our more formal treatment
  • the only possibility for oscillations if the
    initial state is a superposition of several
    states n of different energies
  • then, also the phases F get a dependence on n
  • then, the absolute squares show indeed
    oscillatory behavior

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4. Our more formal treatment
  • the only possibility for oscillations if the
    initial state is a superposition of several
    states n of different energies
  • then, also the phases F get a dependence on n
  • then, the absolute squares show indeed
    oscillatory behavior

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4. Our more formal treatment
  • the only possibility for oscillations if the
    initial state is a superposition of several
    states n of different energies
  • then, also the phases F get a dependence on n
  • then, the absolute squares show indeed
    oscillatory behavior

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HOWEVER
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  • HOWEVER
  • duration of the GSI-oscillations

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4. Our more formal treatment
  • HOWEVER
  • duration of the GSI-oscillations

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4. Our more formal treatment
  • HOWEVER
  • duration of the GSI-oscillations
  • this would require an energy splitting of

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4. Our more formal treatment
  • HOWEVER
  • duration of the GSI-oscillations
  • this would require an energy splitting of

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4. Our more formal treatment
  • HOWEVER
  • duration of the GSI-oscillations
  • this would require an energy splitting of
  • ?

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4. Our more formal treatment
  • HOWEVER
  • duration of the GSI-oscillations
  • this would require an energy splitting of
  • ?
  • ? no know mechanism that could produce such a
    tiny splitting

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4. Our more formal treatment
  • HOWEVER
  • duration of the GSI-oscillations
  • this would require an energy splitting of
  • ?
  • ? no know mechanism that could produce such a
    tiny splitting
  • ? no reason for production of a superposition of
    such states

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FURTHERMORE
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4. Our more formal treatment
  • FURTHERMORE
  • it was objected in 0811.0922 nucl-th (Faber et
    al.) and in the talk by Andrei Ivanov at the
    EXA08-Meeting, Vienna, Sept-ember 2008 that this
    level splitting would also lead to slow
    oscillations in ß-decays

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4. Our more formal treatment
  • FURTHERMORE
  • it was objected in 0811.0922 nucl-th (Faber et
    al.) and in the talk by Andrei Ivanov at the
    EXA08-Meeting, Vienna, Sept-ember 2008 that this
    level splitting would also lead to slow
    oscillations in ß-decays
  • this does not happen in the ß-decays of the
    same ions as used for the EC-measurements (Faber
    et al.)

109
4. Our more formal treatment
  • FURTHERMORE
  • it was objected in 0811.0922 nucl-th (Faber et
    al.) and in the talk by Andrei Ivanov at the
    EXA08-Meeting, Vienna, Sept-ember 2008 that this
    level splitting would also lead to slow
    oscillations in ß-decays
  • this does not happen in the ß-decays of the
    same ions as used for the EC-measurements (Faber
    et al.)
  • we were not aware of this data when we wrote our
    paper

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4. Our more formal treatment
  • FURTHERMORE
  • it was objected in 0811.0922 nucl-th (Faber et
    al.) and in the talk by Andrei Ivanov at the
    EXA08-Meeting, Vienna, Sept-ember 2008 that this
    level splitting would also lead to slow
    oscillations in ß-decays
  • this does not happen in the ß-decays of the
    same ions as used for the EC-measurements (Faber
    et al.)
  • we were not aware of this data when we wrote our
    paper
  • BUT we also did not claim to be able to explain
    the GSI-oscillations

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4. Our more formal treatment
  • FURTHERMORE
  • it was objected in 0811.0922 nucl-th (Faber et
    al.) and in the talk by Andrei Ivanov at the
    EXA08-Meeting, Vienna, Sept-ember 2008 that this
    level splitting would also lead to slow
    oscillations in ß-decays
  • this does not happen in the ß-decays of the
    same ions as used for the EC-measurements (Faber
    et al.)
  • we were not aware of this data when we wrote our
    paper
  • BUT we also did not claim to be able to explain
    the GSI-oscillations
  • at the moment, we have no objection against the
    above argument

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5. One question
113
5. One question
Let us assume for a moment that the COHERENT
summation is correct.
114
5. One question
Let us assume for a moment that the COHERENT
summation is correct. ? What about the effective
mass in the KATRIN-experiment?
115
5. One question
  • Let us assume for a moment that the COHERENT
    summation is correct.
  • ? What about the effective mass in the
    KATRIN-experiment?
  • tritium beta decay 3H ? 3He e- ve


116
5. One question
  • Let us assume for a moment that the COHERENT
    summation is correct.
  • ? What about the effective mass in the
    KATRIN-experiment?
  • tritium beta decay 3H ? 3He e- ve
  • the energy spectrum of the electron is given by
    (Farzan Smirnov, Phys. Lett. B557, 224 (2003))


117
5. One question
  • Let us assume for a moment that the COHERENT
    summation is correct.
  • ? What about the effective mass in the
    KATRIN-experiment?
  • tritium beta decay 3H ? 3He e- ve
  • the energy spectrum of the electron is given by
    (Farzan Smirnov, Phys. Lett. B557, 224 (2003))


118
5. One question
  • Let us assume for a moment that the COHERENT
    summation is correct.
  • ? What about the effective mass in the
    KATRIN-experiment?
  • tritium beta decay 3H ? 3He e- ve
  • the energy spectrum of the electron is given by
    (Farzan Smirnov, Phys. Lett. B557, 224 (2003))
  • ? this is an INCOHERENT sum over the
    contributions from the different mass eigenstates
    (Vissani, Nucl. Phys. Proc. Suppl.100, 273
    (2001))


119
5. One question
  • Let us assume for a moment that the COHERENT
    summation is correct.
  • ? What about the effective mass in the
    KATRIN-experiment?
  • tritium beta decay 3H ? 3He e- ve
  • the energy spectrum of the electron is given by
    (Farzan Smirnov, Phys. Lett. B557, 224 (2003))
  • ? this is an INCOHERENT sum over the
    contributions from the different mass eigenstates
    (Vissani, Nucl. Phys. Proc. Suppl.100, 273
    (2001))


120
5. One question
  • for (E0-E)gtgtmj, this can be parametrized by a
    single para-meter, the effective mass of the
    electron-neutrino, which is

121
5. One question
  • for (E0-E)gtgtmj, this can be parametrized by a
    single para-meter, the effective mass of the
    electron-neutrino, which is
  • ? this is the expression mostly used

122
5. One question
  • for (E0-E)gtgtmj, this can be parametrized by a
    single para-meter, the effective mass of the
    electron-neutrino, which is
  • ? this is the expression mostly used
  • my questions

123
5. One question
  • for (E0-E)gtgtmj, this can be parametrized by a
    single para-meter, the effective mass of the
    electron-neutrino, which is
  • ? this is the expression mostly used
  • my questions
  • Should the definition of the effective electron
    neutrino mass then be modified???

124
5. One question
  • for (E0-E)gtgtmj, this can be parametrized by a
    single para-meter, the effective mass of the
    electron-neutrino, which is
  • ? this is the expression mostly used
  • my questions
  • Should the definition of the effective electron
    neutrino mass then be modified???
  • Would the planned KATRIN-analysis be in-correct???

125
5. One question
  • for (E0-E)gtgtmj, this can be parametrized by a
    single para-meter, the effective mass of the
    electron-neutrino, which is
  • ? this is the expression mostly used
  • my questions
  • Should the definition of the effective electron
    neutrino mass then be modified???
  • Would the planned KATRIN-analysis be
    in-correct???
  • What about MAINZ TROITSK???

126
5. One question
I dont think so!!!
127
6. Conclusions
128
6. Conclusions
  • the oscillations at GSI are NOT YET EXPLAINED

129
6. Conclusions
  • the oscillations at GSI are NOT YET EXPLAINED
  • they are definitely NOT related to neutrino
    mixing

130
6. Conclusions
  • the oscillations at GSI are NOT YET EXPLAINED
  • they are definitely NOT related to neutrino
    mixing
  • of course, people (including us) had a careful
    look at all sorts of systematics

131
6. Conclusions
  • the oscillations at GSI are NOT YET EXPLAINED
  • they are definitely NOT related to neutrino
    mixing
  • of course, people (including us) had a careful
    look at all sorts of systematics
  • HOWEVER there are some unexplained strange
    statistical properties of the data

132
6. Conclusions
  • the oscillations at GSI are NOT YET EXPLAINED
  • they are definitely NOT related to neutrino
    mixing
  • of course, people (including us) had a careful
    look at all sorts of systematics
  • HOWEVER there are some unexplained strange
    statistical properties of the data
  • that all has caused some confusion in the
    community

133
6. Conclusions
  • the oscillations at GSI are NOT YET EXPLAINED
  • they are definitely NOT related to neutrino
    mixing
  • of course, people (including us) had a careful
    look at all sorts of systematics
  • HOWEVER there are some unexplained strange
    statistical properties of the data
  • that all has caused some confusion in the
    community
  • the new run using I-122 will hopefully clarify
    some issues

134
  • THANKS TO MY
  • COLLABORATORS!!!!

135
  • THANKS TO MY
  • COLLABORATORS!!!!
  • AND, OF COURSE, TO YOU ALL FOR YOUR ATTENTION!

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et al. Phys.Lett.B664162-168,2008 e-Print
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non-exponential two-body beta decays of
highly-charged, stored ions" Talks by Fritz
Bosch Yuri Litvinov, Transregio 27 "Neutrinos
and Beyond"-Meeting, Heidelberg, 30th January
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