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Title: Atheists


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Atheists Myths Part 2
  • Richard Deem

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For the time will come when men will not put up
with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own
desires, they will gather around them a great
number of teachers to say what their itching ears
want to hear. They will turn their ears away from
the truth and turn aside to myths. (2 Timothy
43-4)
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Atheist Myth 2 Jesus Didnt Become God Until
the 4th Century
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Jesus was Deified at the Council of Nicaea
  • A common atheist myth is that the Bible was
    changed at the Council of Nicaea to change Jesus
    from being Messiah to being God
  • Divergent books were excluded from the canon of
    the Bible at that time
  • Is it true that there is no evidence that
    Christians worshipped Jesus as God prior to the
    4th century?

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Early Evidence for the Proclamation of Jesus
Deity
  • Biblical
  • Jesus presents the characteristics of God
  • The Bible says Jesus is God
  • Jesus claims He is God
  • Writings of early church leaders
  • Secular writings
  • Archeological evidence

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Biblical Claims of Jesus Divinity
Characteristic God Jesus Christ
Who is omnipotent (all powerful)? 1 Chronicles 2911 Philippians 320-21
Who is omniscient (all knowing)? 1 John 320 Colossians 22-3
Who is omnipresent (present everywhere)? Proverbs 153 2 Corinthians 214
Who is Lord of Sabbath? Genesis 23 Matthew 128
Who is the great "I am?" Exodus 314 John 858
Who is the only creator? Isaiah 4424 John 13
Who is the only savior? Isaiah 4311, 4521 Acts 412
Who will judge mankind? Isaiah 313, 14 2 Corinthians 510
Who will judge between the sheep and goats? Ezekiel 3417 Matthew 2531-33
Who sent the prophets? Jeremiah 725 Matthew 2334
Who resurrected Jesus? Acts 410 John 1017-18
Who is "coming in glory?" Isaiah 405 Matthew 2430
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Biblical Claims of Jesus Divinity
Characteristic God Jesus Christ
Who is our Father? Isaiah 6316 Isaiah 96
Who is the "first and last?" Isaiah 446 Revelation 117
Who is Rock of salvation? 2 Samuel 2232 1 Corinthians 104
Who is Stone of stumbling? Isaiah 813-15 1 Peter 28
"One crying in the wilderness" came to prepare a way for whom? Isaiah 403 Matthew 33
Who is eternal? Genesis 2133 Micah 52
Who is the fountain of living waters? Jeremiah 1713 John 410-14
Who resurrects the dead? Acts 268 John 640
Who gives rewards to man? Isaiah 4010 Matthew 1627
Who has all authority and power? 1 Chronicles 2911 Matthew 2818
Who gives power and authority to man? Psalm 6835 Luke 91
Who forgives sin? 2 Chronicles 714 Matthew 96
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Biblical Claims of Jesus Divinity
Characteristic God Jesus Christ
Who sent the Holy Spirit? John 1416 John 167
Who has the greatest name? Nehemiah 95 Philippians 29
Whom are we to worship? Exodus 3414 Revelation 512-13
Who is the good Shepherd? Genesis 4815 John 1014
Who searches for the lost sheep of Israel? Ezekiel 3411 Matthew 1524
Who is "Lord of Lords?" Deuteronomy 1017 Revelation 1714
To whom shall every knee bow? Isaiah 4522-23 Philippians 210
Who is the righteous branch of David? Jeremiah 235-6 Jeremiah 3315
Who alone is Holy? 1 Samuel 22 Acts 314
Whose blood cleanses us? Acts 2028 1 John 17
The world was created for whom? Proverbs 164 Colossians 116
Who is above all? Nehemiah 96 Romans 95
Who is forever the same? Psalm 10224-27 Hebrews 18-12
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Biblical Claims of Jesus Divinity
Characteristic God Jesus Christ
Who is our light? Psalm 271 John 812
Who is the way or path? Psalms 1611 John 146
Who is in charge of the angels? Psalms 10320 2 Thessalonians 17
Who gives us rest? Exodus 3314 Matthew 1128
Who gives eternal life? Proverbs 1923 John 336
We are the bride of whom? Isaiah 545 2 Corinthians 112
Who tests the heart and mind? Jeremiah 1710 Revelation 223
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Jesus is God
Statement Verse
Behold, the virgin shall be with child, and shall bear a Son, and they shall call His name Immanuel, which translated means, "God with us." Matthew 123
And fear gripped them all, and they began glorifying God, saying, "A great prophet has arisen among us!" and, "God has visited His people!" Luke 716
In the beginning was the Word...and the Word was God. John 11
No man has seen God at any time the only begotten God, who is in the bosom of the Father, He has explained Him. John 118
He Jesus... was calling God His own Father, making Himself equal with God. John 518
I and the Father are one. John 1030
The Jews answered Him Jesus, "For a good work we do not stone You, but for blasphemy and because You, being a man, make Yourself out to be God." John 1033
You call Me Teacher and Lord and you are right, for so I am. John 1313
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Jesus is God
Statement Verse
Jesus said to him, "...He who has seen Me has seen the Father how do you say, Show us the Father?'" John 149
And now, glorify Thou Me together with Thyself, Father, with the glory which I had with Thee before the world was. John 175
Thomas answered and said to Him Jesus, "My Lord and my God!" John 2028
"The word which He sent to the sons of Israel, preaching peace through Jesus Christ (He is Lord of all) Acts 1036
For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek for the same Lord is Lord of all, abounding in riches for all who call on Him Romans 1012
for if they had understood it they would not have crucified the Lord of glory 1 Corinthians 28
...the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God. 2 Corinthians 44
...Christ Jesus, who, although He existed in the form of God, did not regard equality with God a thing to be grasped, Philippians 26
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Jesus is God
Statement Verse
...Christ. For in Him all the fullness of Deity dwells in bodily form, Colossians 29
God was manifest in the flesh... 1 Timothy 316
...our Lord Jesus Christ, which He will bring about at the proper time-- He who is the blessed and only Sovereign, the King of kings and Lord of lords 1 Timothy 615
God...in these last days has spoken to us in His Son...And He is the radiance of His glory and the exact representation of His nature... Hebrews 12-3
But of the Son He says, "Thy throne, O God, is forever and ever... Hebrews 18
...the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior, Christ Jesus Titus 213
Simon Peter ... by the righteousness of our God and Savior, Jesus Christ 2 Peter 11
And on His robe and on His thigh He Jesus has a name written, "KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS." Revelation 1916
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Jesus Claims to Deity
  • Many say that Jesus Himself never claimed to be
    God
  • However, the gospels are filled with such claims
    for those who understood the Old Testament

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Jesus Accepted Worship
Who worshipped Jesus? Reference
Angels Hebrews 16
Disciples Matthew 1433Matthew 289Matthew 2817Luke 2452
Wise men Matthew 22Matthew 211
Leper Matthew 82
Ruler Matthew 918
Woman of Canaan Matthew 1525
Mother of Zebedee's children Matthew 2020
Blind man John 938
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Jesus Claims to be the Son of Man
  • A clear reference to Daniel 7
  • "I kept looking in the night visions, And behold,
    with the clouds of heaven One like a Son of Man
    was coming, And He came up to the Ancient of Days
    And was presented before Him. "And to Him was
    given dominion, Glory and a kingdom, That all the
    peoples, nations, and men of every language Might
    serve Him. His dominion is an everlasting
    dominion Which will not pass away And His
    kingdom is one Which will not be destroyed.
    (Daniel 713-14)

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Jesus is the Son of God
  • "I will surely tell of the decree of the LORD He
    said to Me, 'You are My Son, Today I have
    begotten You Do homage to the Son, that He not
    become angry, and you perish in the way, For His
    wrath may soon be kindled. How blessed are all
    who take refuge in Him! (Psalm 27, 12)
  • Who has ascended into heaven and descended? Who
    has gathered the wind in His fists? Who has
    wrapped the waters in His garment? Who has
    established all the ends of the earth? What is
    His name or His son's name? Surely you know!
    (Proverbs 304)

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Jesus is the Son of God
  • This is the faithful Shepherd Of ,thee it is
    said, "Kiss the Son," thou art the Prince of the
    Israelites, the Lord of the earth... the Son of
    the Most High, the Son of the holy God - -and the
    gracious Shekinah. (Zohar, Gen. f6l. 88, c. 348).
  • Know him as your God, who is the Son of
    God.(Sibylline Oracles, Lactantins p. 10 s.)
  • R. Huni in the name of R. Ide and R. Joshua said,
    that this man is the King Messiah of whom it is
    said, Psa. 27, "This day have I begotten
    thee."(Talmud Babylonian)

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Jesus is the Son of God
Claimant Verses
Bible Mark 11, John 2031, Romans 14, 2 Corinthians 119, Galatians 220, Ephesians 413, Hebrews 414, 1 John 415, 1 John 55, 1 John 520
Disciples Matthew 1615-17, John 149-50
Roman Centurion Matthew 2754, Mark 1539
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Jesus is the Son of God
Claimant Verses
Angels Luke 135
Satan Matthew 43, 6, Luke 43, 9
Demons Matthew 829, Mark 311, Luke 441
John the Baptist John 134
Martha John 1127
Saul (Paul) Acts 920
Ethiopian Eunich Acts 837
Jesus Matthew 2743, Luke 2270, John 197
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Son of God God!
  • For this cause therefore the Jews were seeking
    all the more to kill Him, because He not only was
    breaking the Sabbath, but also was calling God
    His own Father, making Himself equal with God.
    (John 518)

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Jesus Claims to be the Messiah (the Christ)
  • For a child will be born to us, a son will be
    given to us And the government will rest on His
    shoulders And His name will be called Wonderful
    Counselor, Mighty God, Eternal Father, Prince of
    Peace. (Isaiah 96)

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Jesus Claims to be the Messiah (the Christ)
  • "The days are coming," declares the LORD, "when I
    will raise up to David a righteous Branch, a King
    who will reign wisely and do what is just and
    right in the land. In his days Judah will be
    saved and Israel will live in safety. This is the
    name by which he will be called The LORD Our
    Righteousness. (Jeremiah 235-6)
  • Word translated "LORD" is yhvh, the personal name
    of God

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Jesus Claims Attributes of God
Jesus Claim Verse
Came from heaven John 313, 823
Heaven is my kingdom Luke 2230, John 1836
Before Abraham John 858-59
Before the world began John 175
All authority... in heaven and on earth Matthew 2818, John 1710
Supreme judge John 522
Separates the sheep from the goats Matthew 2531-33
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Jesus Claims Attributes of God
Jesus Claim Verse
Lord of the Sabbath Matthew 128, Mark 228, Luke 65
Could forgive sins Matthew 96, Mark 25
Return in glory Matthew 2430, Revelation 17
Light and salvation John 812
The way to life John 146
Resurrection and the life John 521, 639-40, 654, 1125-26
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Jesus Claims Attributes of God
Jesus Claim Verse
Good shepherd John 1014, Matthew 1524
Searches hearts and minds Revelation 223
Gives rest Matthew 1128-29
Gives eternal life John 1027-28
Rewards His followers Matthew 1627
Fountain of living water John 410-14
Sent the Holy Spirit John 167
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Jesus Claims Attributes of God
Jesus Claim Verse
raised Himself from the dead John 219, 1017-18
Disciples would be unable to do anything significant without His power John 155
baptize new followers in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit. Matthew 2819-20
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The Bible Does Suggest Jesus is God, but Maybe it
Was Changed to Say That?
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Was the New Testament Changed?
  • Many atheists claim that the scribes massively
    changed the New Testament over the centuries
  • Is this claim true?

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Ancient Manuscript Evidence
Author Written Earliest Copy Earliest Copy Time Span Mss. Mss.
Caesar 100-44 B.C. 900 A.D. 1,000 yrs 1,000 yrs 1,000 yrs 10
Plato 427-347 B.C. 900 A.D. 1,200 yrs 1,200 yrs 1,200 yrs 7
Thucydides 460-400 B.C. 900 A.D. 1,300 yrs 1,300 yrs 1,300 yrs 8
Tacitus 100 A.D. 1100 A.D. 1,000 yrs 1,000 yrs 1,000 yrs 20
Suetonius 75-160 A.D. 950 A.D. 800 yrs 800 yrs 800 yrs 8
Homer (Iliad) 900 B.C. 400 B.C. 500 yrs 500 yrs 500 yrs 643
New Testament 40-100 A.D. 125 A.D. 25-50 yrs 25-50 yrs 25-50 yrs 24,000
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New Testament
  • Oldest NT manuscript dated to 125 AD
  • Variants account for only 0.5 of the text
    (compared to 5 for the Iliad)
  • So, the manuscript evidence shows that the New
    Testament remained unchanged from the 2nd century
    on
  • Therefore, the claims about Jesus deity were
    found in the original documents produced by the
    early Christian church

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Early Church Leaders
  • Clement (30-100 A.D.) wrote an epistle to the
    Corinthian Church in 97 A.D. and quoted from
    Luke, Acts, Romans, 1 Corinthians, Ephesians,
    Titus, 1 and 2 Peter, Hebrews, and James
  • Ignatius (30-107 A.D.) Polycarp (65-155 A.D.),
    and Papias (70-155 A.D.) cited verses from every
    New Testament book except 2 and 3 John
  • Justin Martyr (110-165 A.D.) cited verses from
    Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, Acts, Romans, 1
    Corinthians, Galatians, 2 Thessalonians, Hebrews,
    1 and 2 Peter, and Revelation
  • Irenaeus (120-202 A.D.) wrote a five volume work
    Against Heresies, quoting
  • from every book of the New Testament but 3 John.
  • from the New Testament books over 1,200 times.

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Secular Sources
  • Pliny the Younger, governor of Pontus/Bithynia
    from 111-113 A.D. wrote (Letters 10.96-97) to
    Emperor Trajan
  • They asserted, however, that the sum and
    substance of their fault or error had been that
    they were accustomed to meet on a fixed day
    before dawn and sing responsively a hymn to
    Christ as to a god, and to bind themselves by
    oath, not to some crime, but not to commit fraud,
    theft, or adultery, not falsify their trust...

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Archeology
  • 3rd Century church in Megiddo, Israel
  • Akeptous, the God-loving, offered this table for
    (the) god Jesus Christ, as a remembrance

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Other Christian Books
  • Atheists claim that some Christian books were
    excluded from the biblical canon at the Council
    of Nicaea
  • Should books, such as the Gospel of Thomas have
    been included in the canon of scripture?

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The Gospel of Thomas
  • Fails the test of Apostolic authority
  • Never quoted by early church fathers
  • No support it was written by the apostle Thomas
  • Written around 140 A.D.
  • Fails to conform to the rule of faith
  • Contains 114 "secret sayings" of Jesus
  • Contains pantheistic concepts
  • Women are denied salvation unless they are
    somehow changed into a man
  • Fails the test of continuous usage and acceptance
  • Only two known manuscripts
  • Thousands of manuscripts authenticate the Four
    Gospels

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Conclusion
  • The New Testament, letters from early Christian
    Church leaders, secular writing, and archeology
    all show that Jesus was worshipped as God from
    the inception of the Christian Church.
  • The atheist claim that Jesus became a god only at
    the Council of Nicaea is a myth

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More In-Depth Research Papers
  • Jesus Christ as God and the Trinity Was Not
    Invented Until the Fourth Century?
  • The Bible Has Been Changed Over the Centuries
    From the Original?
  • History of the Bible How The Bible Came To Us
  • The Son is God
  • Should We Worship Jesus?
  • Jesus Christ Never Said He Was God?
  • Early (3rd Century A.D.) Christian Church at
    Megiddo, Israel

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