Title: Clandestino Jeg gr alene med min sorg Min straff er ensom Min skjebne er lpe for lure loven Fortapt
1ClandestinoJeg går alene med min sorgMin
straff er ensomMin skjebne er å løpe for å lure
lovenFortapt i hjertetav BabylonDe kaller meg
den skjultesiden jeg ikke har papirerTil en by
i Norddro jeg for å jobbeJeg forlot livet
mittmellom Ceuta og GibraltarJeg er en
strømning i havetEt spøkelse i byenMitt liv er
forbudtsier myndighetene
2Desaparecido
- De kaller meg den forsvunne,
- Som når jeg kommer, alt har dratt
- Jeg flyr når jeg kommer, jeg flyr når jeg drar
- Når de leter etter meg, er jeg der aldri
- Når de finner meg, er jeg ikke den som står der
- for jeg har allerede dratt videre bortover der
- De kaller meg den forsvunne, et spøkelse som
aldri er der - De kaller meg den utakknemlige, men det er ikke
sant - Jeg har en smerte i kroppen som ikke lar meg
puste - Jeg har en dom i kroppen Jeg må alltid løpe
videre - (Manu Chao)
3De usynlige-en konferanse om papirløse migranter
4Trygve G. Nordby, Norges Røde KorsSturla
Stålsett, Kirkens Bymisjon
- Hva vet vi om situasjonen i Norge i dag hvem er
de papirløse migrantene behov, dilemmaer og
rettigheter?
5Per Kristian AaleJournalist Aftenposten
- Historiene bak noen historier om papirløse
migranter hvordan lever de og hvilke problemer
møter de? - Bakgrunnen for Aftenpostens serie om papirløse
migranter hva var målet og tanken bak?
6Charlotta Arwidsson, Sveriges Røde Kors
- Erfaringer og dilemmaer man møter i arbeidet med
papirløse migranter i Sverige. Fokus på helse.
7ClandestinoJeg går alene med min sorgMin
straff er ensomMin skjebne er å løpe for å lure
lovenFortapt i hjertetav BabylonDe kaller meg
den skjultesiden jeg ikke har papirerTil en by
i Norddro jeg for å jobbeJeg forlot livet
mittmellom Ceuta og GibraltarJeg er en
strømning i havetEt spøkelse i byenMitt liv er
forbudtsier myndighetene
8Desaparecido
- De kaller meg den forsvunne,
- Som når jeg kommer, alt har dratt
- Jeg flyr når jeg kommer, jeg flyr når jeg drar
- Når de leter etter meg, er jeg der aldri
- Når de finner meg, er jeg ikke den som står der
- for jeg har allerede dratt videre bortover der
- De kaller meg den forsvunne, et spøkelse som
aldri er der - De kaller meg den utakknemlige, men det er ikke
sant - Jeg har en smerte i kroppen som ikke lar meg
puste - Jeg har en dom i kroppen Jeg må alltid løpe
videre - (Manu Chao)
9Marjan Mensinga, Lampion
- Informasjonsarbeid rettet mot papirløse migranter
i Nederland. Fokus på informasjonsspredning og
rettigheter
10Lampion
- Health care for undocumented migrants
11Linkage act and undocumented migrants
- Undocumented Migrants are not entitled to social
security services as - Social housing
- Social (financial) support
- Health insurance
- All those rights are linked to a permit to stay
12Exception to the act
- Education of school-age children (till 18 yrs)
- Legal aid
- Necessary Medical care
- Healthcare to prevent infectious diseases and
some psychiatric symptoms (to prevent suicide or
endangering others)
13Necessary Medical Care
- Doctors are bound by the Hippocratic oath, rules
of conduct, and legislation to offer qualitative
care.
14Who is paying the doctor
- The Undocumented Migrant
- if its not possible for him
- The Linkage funds.
15The linkage funds
- Created by the Dutch government for the treatment
of undocumented migrants by the regular
healthcare organisations. - It only compensates the costs of caregivers of
primary healthcare such as general practioners,
midwives, pharmacies and dentists
16Doubtful debtors
- General hospitals, psychiatric care and nursing
homes are not compensated for the given care.
They have created an account for doubtful
debtors.
17Lampion
- Set up by a number of national organisations.
- Started in 2004
- Its a national information and advisory service
(helpdesk and website www.lampion.info) for the
healthcare of undocumented migrants
18The members of the platform at Lampion
- National Mental Health organisation
- National Primary Healthcare organisation
- General Practioners Association
- Sexual Transmitted Diseases/Aids organisation
- Dutch Council for Refugees
- The Linkage Funds
- The Tuberculoses Organisation
19The website
- Gives information about
- Linkage funds
- Admission to healthcare for undocumented migrants
- Housing for undocumented migrants
- Duty for doctors and other care givers to provide
help
20- Obstetric care
- The rights to healthcare for undocumented
migrants - All kind of relevant articles about this subject
21The Helpdesk
- Frequently asked questions
22In 2007
- Who pays the bill of the doctor (dentist,
midwife, hospital). (128) - General health care information regarding
undocumented migrants (82) - Possibilities for healthcare (68)
- Juridical procedures (52)
- Access to hospitals (49)
23- Housing (35)
- (Not) paying the bill of the doctor (midwife,
dentist, hospital) (33) - Possibility for an insurance (14)
- Access to psychiatric hospitals and nursing homes
(12) - What is necessary medical care (4)
24Who is asking the questions
- Divided into
- Care givers/hospitals and others
25Care givers/hospitals
- General hospital 23
- Mental health care 21
- Other healthcare 21
- Social Work 14
- General Practioner 13
- Youth care 9
26- Midwives 6
- Social reception centre 5
- Dentist 3
- Total 110
27Others
- Family/friends 118
- Organisations for UM 43
- Students/research worker 23
- UM himself 21
- Legal aid 13
- Churches 6
28- Schools 6
- Prison 5
- Debt collecting agency 4
- Media 3
- Authorities 2
- Others 2
29- Subtotal Others 246
- Subtotal Caregivers/hospitals 110
- Total who asked questions 356
30Subdivision
- Men 104
- Women 136
- Children 49
- Unknown 34
- Total 323
31- Pregnant women 41
- UM with HIV/Aids 13
32Undocumented Children
- The questions were about 43 children
- 2 girls were pregnant
- 4 times the doctor suspected child abuse
- 2 times an undocumented child with a chronic
disease would soon be 18 years old and were to
leave the Netherlands, but could not be send away.
33Case 1
- Father/mother are legally in the Netherlands.
Baby was born in the hospital. He was not yet
legal. When the baby was 2 months old, he got the
bill from the hospital because he was born there.
When he was 4 months old, he got an official
permit to stay and he was insured with his
mother. - What do we have to do with the bill?
34Case 2
- An UM calls from the prison. He is there because
he is illegally in the Netherlands and the next
day he will be released. He has diabetes and high
blood pressure. Were can he find any help and,
more importantly, medication. - Can Lampion help him?
35Case 3
- The social worker of a hospital calls. Her client
needs follow-up care. Can he see a doctor and who
is paying the bill?
36Case 4
- A mother with 4 young children. They live in a
church. She is depressive and cant take care of
her children. - The volunteer of the church wants to know what to
do.
37Sanna Vestin, Redda Barnen
- Problemstillinger og erfaringer i arbeid med
hjelpetelefon for barn uten oppholdstillatelse i
Sverige
38Jon Ole Martinsen, Seif Reidar Hjermann,
BarneombudetRagnhild Magelssen, Avd. for
migrasjonshelse, Oslo KommuneSverre Varvin,
Nasjonalt Kunnskapssenter for vold og traumatisk
stressMorten Tjessem, NoasTrygve G. Nordby,
Norges Røde KorsSturla Stålsett, Kirkens
Bymisjon
- Hva kan vi gjøre i arbeidet videre med papirløse
migranter i Norge?
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