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Title: Veteran Truth #12: The Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) Wants to Assist You, Even When You Don’t Think You Deserve It by Lance Orndorff, USN 1984


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Veteran Truth 12 The Department of Veterans
Affairs (VA) Wants to Assist You, Even When You
Dont Think You Deserve It by Lance Orndorff, USN
1984
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  • Veteran Truth 12 The Department of Veterans
    Affairs (VA) Wants to Assist You, Even When You
    Dont Think You Deserve It
  • by Lance Orndorff, USN 1984
  • Overview
  • After twenty years of working with my fellow
    military veterans, assisting them in getting
    access to VA medical services, submitting
    successful disability claims, career restarts,
    and other transitional services, what is clear to
    me is that far too many veterans see the VA as an
    adversarial bad guy in a competition of wills.
    Nothing could be further from the truth.

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  • There are two groups of veterans, among all
    military veteran groups, that interest me the
    most in their views of the Department of Veteran
    Affairs. Some have some idea that they are
    entitled to services and payments but think the
    VA is actively working to deny the veterans
    benefits, and the group that by all external
    assessment, looks highly qualified for services
    and benefits but does not believe they need
    them or that others need the help worse than
    me. Lets explore both and see where we come out
    in the end.

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  • I Dont Need No-Ones Help!
  • Taking the second group first, the I dont need
    the help or others need it more than me group
    are typically not aware of their
    service-connected mental or physical issues, and
    any discussion of these issues and help they can
    receive it met with a strong personal stand
    against getting assistance. They tend to see the
    VA as a big agency that only is there to help
    those missing arms, legs, eyes, etc. That the VA
    is for the urgently ill or those who just cant
    take care of themselves. What they miss is the
    nuance that lies somewhere in between these ideas.

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  • Veterans who are reticent to receiving or even
    exploring assistance of any kind from the VA
    display a deep-seated idea that receiving
    assistance indicates in some way that they are
    weak or unable to handle their affairs. Of
    course, this is far from the truth. Nevertheless,
    this is where they seem to be coming from.
    Meanwhile, they often are displaying all the
    typical signs of PTSD in their personal
    relationships, employment, self-care, etc., and
    they often are riddled with symptoms of illnesses
    likely originating from their military service.
    But breaking through to them is hard business.
    But I have discovered a golden carrot that will
    make even the most adamant denier of needing help
    to fold cash.

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  • When a veteran who is too strong and too
    independent to need anyones help or thinks they
    dont need help as much as the next vet is
    informed of the potential for a paycheck each
    month, they slow down, quiet down, and seriously
    begin to listen. Frankly, I dont care what it
    takes to get them to talk more about what they do
    want than what they dont want, and if the issue
    of a disability payment gets them there,
    fantastic! And it does. If I start the
    conversation with the cash as the end game, and
    that getting evaluated physically and mentally is
    just a formality, then off to the VA hospital
    they go and we have succeeded in beginning their
    care.

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  • So the next time you cant seem to get through to
    a military veteran who is displaying many of the
    characteristics of needing physical and mental
    assistance, especially combat veterans, they talk
    money. You just might get their attention!
  • The VA as Adversary
  • Next, I will speak to the issue of military
    veterans who see the Department of Veterans
    Affairs as a giant who is working again them to
    deny care and benefits. This is a very popular
    notion among some vets and it is one that is
    tough to break through. Either they have made a
    failed attempt to gain access for physical,
    psychological, career training, or other care,
    and painted the entire notion of the VA as a
    David and Goliath no-win proposition or have not
    made any attempt for the same reason.

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  • For those who have made their first or second run
    at getting access to the VA for care or benefits
    and hit a brick wall, it is nearly always an
    issue of poor approach. The fact is that the VA
    is ready and willing to provide care, services,
    and benefit payments to all veterans who quality
    and submit the necessary evidence for an
    affirmative decision to be made. But many vets
    attempt to apply on their own, are misguided by
    poor open-source web information or just go with
    what they know. This leaves the VA with an
    application that is incomplete, riddled with
    unnecessary data, and often overreach beyond
    description.

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  • The veteran goes online to YouTube and sees some
    videos saying the same thing over and over again
    sleep apnea, hearing loss, etc., etc. They find
    themselves guided by popular talk instead of
    personal experience and evaluation. The good news
    is that once we work with these veterans and take
    them through a self-assessment, identify their
    actual issues, explain the approach, and apply in
    a narrowly targeted fashion, the VA THEN has the
    data they need to make decisions based on facts
    and awarded benefits based on need, not popular
    talk.

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  • The VA has proven to me and those around me that
    they are ready and willing to award benefits and
    care to those of us who are fortunate enough to
    have had the guidance and care of a VA rep,
    friend, counselor, etc., to read our needs first,
    apply second. Once we know what the issues are in
    our lives, get professional assessments, and
    submit a slice of a claim not the whole house
    with a laundry list of issues then the VAs job
    of being good shepherds of the American
    taxpayers money is made much, much easier. The
    VA relationship may be adversarial in structure,
    but not in intent.

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  • The bottom line with this group of veterans is
    that we need to counsel, counsel, counsel. Ask,
    ask, ask. Get them to tell their story, during
    services and post-service, then assist them in
    identifying the issues and needs, then walking
    with them through their claims experience to that
    they are served and the VA is served by
    delivering a claim that is easy to understand,
    fully supported, and makes sense for both the
    veteran and the VA.

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  • Conclusion
  • Those of us that have made assisting veterans our
    work for the remainder of our lives work with
    these military veterans discussed above. And we
    are so committed to them getting the
    psychological, physical, career, and other care
    they need and have earned. And as always it
    begins with relationship and understanding. The
    next time you come across a veteran that fits the
    profile of what you have read in this article,
    and you want nothing less than for them to get
    the care they need, reach out to a veteran
    benefits counselor. Together, we can lead our
    heroes to the care and benefits they deserve. It
    is how we show our love and respect for their
    sacrifices. Lets do it together!

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  • Lance Orndorff is a US Navy cold-war veteran
    working with veterans, vet families, employers,
    and other military veteran support professionals
    since 2003 to enhance their access to VA medical
    care and benefits.
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