Title: Frictional Coefficients Between Plug and Sheet Problems with Theories, Experiments in Plug Assist
1Frictional Coefficients Between Plug and Sheet
Problems with Theories, Experiments in Plug
Assist
- James L. Throne
- Sherwood Technologies, Inc.
- Dunedin Florida 34698-3347
Paper presented at 2004 Thermoforming
Conference Indianapolis IN
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Coefficients Between Plug and Sheet
- Objective
- To better understand the problems with theories
and experiments in plug assist thermoforming
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Coefficients Between Plug and Sheet
- Caveat
- It is my intent to raise concerns about the ways
in which we view the interaction between the plug
and the sheet
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Coefficients Between Plug and Sheet
- Caveat
- It is my intent to raise concerns about the ways
in which we view the interaction between the plug
and the sheet - It is NOT my intent to provide answers to the
questions about the interfacial conditions
between the plug and the sheet
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- Think about this Question!
- In plug-assist thermoforming,
- what is sliding against what?
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- Outline
- A discussion of the coefficient of friction issue
- A sliding experiment
- Some prototypical plug experiments
- Conclusions
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- I. Some thoughts on the coefficient of friction
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- Coefficient of Friction
- Frictional characteristics considered part of
tribology - Tribology is study of friction, lubrication and
wear - Traditional view is that all three are extant in
thermoforming
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Historical views of coefficient of friction-I
- The relation that the power required to move a
body bears to the weight or pressure on the body
is known as the coefficient of friction. - W.M. Davis, Friction and Lubrication, A Handbook
For Engineers, Mechanics, Superintendents and
Managers, The Lubrication Publishing Co.,
Pittsburgh PA, 1903.
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Historical Views of coefficient of friction-II
- The coefficient of friction is the ratio between
the resistance to motion and the perpendicular
pressure. - W.M. Davis, Friction and Lubrication, A Handbook
For Engineers, Mechanics, Superintendents and
Managers, The Lubrication Publishing Co.,
Pittsburgh PA, 1903.
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Historical Views of coefficient of friction-III
- There is no other element in connection with
lubrication that has received so much
consideration as that of the coefficient of
friction, and yet there is no other that is in so
indeterminable a state - Mr. Hall, Car Lubrication, ca. 1900 - cited in
W.M. Davis,Friction and Lubrication, A Handbook
For Engineers, Mechanics, Superintendents and
Managers, The Lubrication Publishing Co.,
Pittsburgh PA, 1903.
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Historical views of coefficient of friction-IV
- While the coefficient of friction must always be
taken into consideration when designing and
constructing machinery, it is not always
practicable to calculate it with any degree of
accuracy, and in fact it can only be determined
absolutely by experiment. - W.M. Davis,Friction and Lubrication, A Handbook
For Engineers, Mechanics, Superintendents and
Managers, The Lubrication Publishing Co.,
Pittsburgh PA, 1903.
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- Coefficient of Friction
- Following discussion assumes that frictional
effects are extant in plug-assisted thermoforming
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- Blunt-nose plug moving into sheet
- Contact may involve some sheet sliding
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- Frictional Conditions
- Between Plug And Sheet
- Static CoF, no sliding (coefficient max)
- Sliding CoF, no static (coefficient zero)
- Some static, some sliding
- Slip-stick behavior
- or mold wall
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- Frictional Conditions
- Between Plug And Sheet
- Static CoF, no sliding (coefficient max)
- Sliding CoF, no static (coefficient zero)
- Some static, some sliding
- Slip-stick behavior
- or mold wall
- Which of these are relevant when plastic
stretches against plug surface?
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- Coefficient of Friction
- Static CoF - Initiation of sliding between plug
(and mold wall) and sheet
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- Coefficient of Friction
- Static CoF - Initiation of sliding between plug
(and mold wall) and sheet - Sliding CoF- Continuation of sliding between plug
(and mold wall) and sheet
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- Coefficient of Friction
- Static CoF - Initiation of sliding between plug
(and mold wall) and sheet - Sliding CoF - Continuation of sliding between
plug (and mold wall) and sheet - Static friction value usually 100s to 1000s
greater than sliding friction value, but not
always!
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- Sliding Coefficient of Friction
- Contact area increases with increasing load
Plastic sheet
Plug
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- Sliding Coefficient of Friction
- Contact area increases with increasing load
- Ergo, coefficient independent of load
Plastic sheet
Plug
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- Are there other factors influencing the
interaction between the plug and the sheet?
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- Are there other factors influencing the
interaction between the plug and the sheet? - Wear
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- Sliding Coefficient of Friction
- Wear v. sliding friction
- Friction maximum in polymer transition region
- Wear minimum in polymer transition region
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- Sliding Coefficient of Friction
Friction maximum, wear minimum in polymer
transition region Glass Transition Region
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- Are there other factors influencing the
interaction between the plug and the sheet? - Wear
- Dry v. wet sliding
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- Dry v. wet sliding
- Dry sliding assumes no lube between surfaces
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- Dry v. wet sliding
- Dry sliding assumes no lube between surfaces
- Plastics exude small molecules (low MW polymers,
additives, processing aids)
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- Dry v. wet sliding
- Dry sliding assumes no lube between surfaces
- Plastics exude small molecules (low MW polymers,
additives, processing aids) - Small molecules reside between plug and sheet
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- Dry v. wet sliding
- Dry sliding assumes no lube between surfaces
- Plastics exude small molecules (low MW polymers,
additives, processing aids) - Small molecules reside between plug and sheet
- Small molecules transfer from sheet to plug
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- Dry v. wet sliding
- Dry sliding assumes no lube between surfaces
- Plastics exude small molecules (low MW polymers,
additives, processing aids) - Small molecules reside between plug and sheet
- Small molecules transfer from sheet to plug
- Interface may go from dry to wet (or wet to dry!)
as plug advances into sheet
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- Are there other factors influencing the
interaction between the plug and the sheet? - Wear
- Dry v. wet sliding
- More than one type of wet sliding
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- Two types of wet sliding
- Boundary lubrication low sliding velocity, low
interfacial viscosity, high loading
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- Two types of wet sliding
- Boundary lubrication low sliding velocity, low
interfacial viscosity, high loading - Hydraulic or hydrodynamic lubrication high
sliding velocity, high viscosity, low loading
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- Two types of wet sliding
- Boundary lubrication low sliding velocity, low
interfacial viscosity, high loading - Hydraulic or hydrodynamic lubrication high
sliding velocity, high viscosity, low loading - Boundary lubrication occurs during start/top
activities as might be the case with plugs in
contact with sheet
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- Two types of wet sliding
- Boundary lubrication low sliding velocity, low
interfacial viscosity, high loading - Hydraulic or hydrodynamic lubrication high
sliding velocity, high viscosity, low loading - Boundary lubrication occurs during start/top
activities as might be the case with plugs in
contact with sheet - Boundary lube friction 100s greater than
hydraulic lube friction
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- Two types of wet sliding
- Sheet does not move far under plug force
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- Measuring Frictional Coefficients
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- Traditional methods of
- measuring coefficient of friction
- Weight sliding on inclined surface
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- Traditional methods of
- measuring coefficient of friction
- Tabor Abrasor stylus rubbing on rotating disk
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- Traditional
- Other methods
- No methods entirely applicable to measuring
plug-sheet friction
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- Observations
- Frictional resistance is a complex issue
- Static v. sliding
- Dry v. wet
- The extent of sliding
- Boundary v. hydrodynamic effects
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- Observations
- Frictional resistance is a complex issue
- Static v. sliding
- Dry v. wet
- The extent of sliding
- Boundary v. hydrodynamic effects
- Standard frictional devices may not give reliable
results
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- Are We Answering the Question?
- In plug-assist thermoforming,
- what is sliding against what?
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- Traditional
- Other methods
- No methods entirely applicable to measuring
plug-sheet friction (except g but modified)
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- Plug-sheet friction experiment
- Consider figure below
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- Plug-sheet friction experiment
- Consider figure below
- A is plug material, B is plastic sheet, p is
applied load - Plug material moved against sheet
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- Plug-sheet friction experiment
- Consider figure below
- First, plug, sheet surfaces examined optically
(100X or SEM) - Plug mounted in fixture, load similar to applied
plug force applied
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- Plug-sheet friction experiment
- Consider figure below
- Sheet placed on hot plate, heated to forming
temperature - Plug heated to 20C of the sheet temperature
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- Plug-sheet friction experiment
- Consider figure below
- Plug pressed against sheet
- Moved at slow rate ( 1 mm/sec, say) against
sheet, then stopped
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- Plug-sheet friction experiment
- Consider figure below
- Plug then lifted and indexed to new place on
sheet - Plug held away from sheet for period of time (10
sec, say)
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- Plug-sheet friction experiment
- Consider figure below
- Plug then placed against sheet and moved other
direction at ( 1 mm/sec, say) - After 10 (say) to-and-fro motions, plug removed
from fixture and examined
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- Plug-sheet friction experiment
- Consider figure below
- Plug surface examined optically (100X or SEM)
- Scrapings from plug surface chemically analyzed
(FTIR) to determine matl transfer
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- Plug-sheet friction experiment
- Consider figure below
- New plug examined, then heated and brought in
contact with fresh sheet surface - Plug moved to-and-fro 100 times, then examined
optically and chemically
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- Plug-sheet friction experiment
- Consider figure below
- Only after material transfer level reaches
constant value - is resistance to sliding measured, using strain
gauge or load cell
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- Experiment 1
- EC Syntactic Foam, sanded w/180 grit, blown with
oil-free air - Normal stress 3 lb/in2
- Hot plate temp setting 162/-2oF
- 0.120 inch black GP-PS sheet
- Block held on sheet 10 s, moved 10 cm in 10 sec,
then removed and cooled 15 s - Force measured once block moved
- Concluded after 10 contacts
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- Experiment 2
- EC Syntactic Foam, sanded w/180 grit, blown with
oil-free air - Normal stress 3 lb/in2
- Hot plate temp setting 162/-2oF
- 0.120 inch black GP-PS sheet
- Block immediately moved 10 cm in 10 s, then
removed and cooled 15 s - Force measured once block moved
- Concluded after 40 contacts
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- Parameters
- Fixed
- Sheet, heater temperature
- Sliding length, times
- Measured
- Force
- Block surface temperature
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- Visual Observations
- After 10 contacts in Expt 1, plug surface is
smoother and grayer
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- Visual Observations
- After 10 contacts in Expt 1, plug surface is
smoother and grayer - After 40 contacts in Expt 2, plug surface is
gray, with small lt1 micron specks in surface
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- Mea Culpa
- Syntactic foam blocks were sent to local
university for FTIR reflectance and ESCA
measurements in August 2001 - Blocks mysteriously disappeared (!)
- Retesting to obtain new samples has not yet begun
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- Observations
- Hot plate experiments yield time-dependent force
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- Observations
- Hot plate experiments yield time-dependent force
- Force is dependent on plug surface temperature
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- III. Some prototypical plug experiments
- Focus on ball or spherical plugs
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- Plug design characteristics - Plug types
- Tapered, bullet- or bull-nosed
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- Plug design characteristics - Plug types
- Tapered, bullet- or bull-nosed
- Applications
- Very deep draws
- Where thinning of sidewall is critical
- Where wall thickness is critical
- Where polymer chills rapidly
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- Blunt-nose plug moving into sheet
- Contact may involve some sheet sliding
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- Load Creep
- Rough acrylic under load increasing time or
increasing temperature
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- Load Creep
- Rough acrylic under load
- Red low temp
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- Load Creep
- Rough acrylic under load
- Red low temp
- Yellow medium temp
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- Load Creep
- Rough acrylic under load
- Red low temp
- Yellow medium temp
- Blue high temp
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- Load Creep
- Rough acrylic under load
- Red low temp
- Yellow medium temp
- Blue high temp
- Note increasing contact area with increasing
temperature
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- Sheet stretching characteristics
- Sheet stretched in uniaxial, biaxial, equibiaxial
and plane strain modes - Mathematical models include
- Ogden doubly-infinite power-law
- Mooney form of Rivlin strain energy function
- Plane strain linear law
- K-BKZ viscoelastic model
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- Sheet stretching characteristics
- Sheet stretched in uniaxial, biaxial, equibiaxial
and plane strain modes - Mathematical models include
- Ogden doubly-infinite power-law
- Mooney form of Rivlin strain energy function
- Plane strain linear law
- K-BKZ viscoelastic model
- Plugs stretch sheet in plane strain
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- Plane strain stretching, cont.
- Top and side view of plug-assisted stretching
- Circles appear as circles from top
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- Plane strain stretching, cont.
- Top and side view of plug-assisted stretching
- Circles appear as circles from top, are actually
distorted
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- Plane strain stretching, cont.
- Mooney-Rivlin equation
- sl (l2-1/l)(2C12C2/l)
- For plane strain
- (ll2-1)1/2(1-1/ll2)(F/2pr)(2C1-2C2)/to
- Where
- 1/l l lh t/to
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- Plane strain stretching
- Force F required to stretch sheet to a depth d
with a flat plug - F 2pdE(T)to/ln (a/b)
- Where E(T) is temperature-dependent modulus, to
is initial sheet thickness, a is plug diameter, b
is sheet diameter
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- Plane strain stretching, cont.
- Comparison of theories and flat plug experimental
data - JLT, 1986
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- 2004 Experiments on Spherical Plugs
- Into Circular Sheets
- 0.015-inch natural rubber sheet, 6.75-inch
diameter - Two wooden sphere diameters
- Small ball diameter 0.75 inch
- Large ball diameter 3 inch
- Force and penetration measured with scales
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Schematic of Plug Experiment Left Half-Initial
Plug Position
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Schematic of Plug Experiment Right Half-Plug
Position During Sheet Stretching
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- Large Sphere Surface Treatment
- As-is rough-grained exterior pine
- Sanded w/200 grit paper
- Wood-putty-filled, sanded w/320 grit paper
- Filled, sanded, and polished
- Filled, sanded, polished and talc-coated
- Filled, sanded, polished and coated with lube
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- Measurements
- Height of plug into sheet
- Force
- Diameter of spherical cap
- Calculations
- Area of spherical cap
- Area of truncated cone
- Thickness of sheet
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- Thickness of free portion of membrane
- Two extremes shown in next figure
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- Thickness of free portion of membrane
- Two extremes shown in next figure
- If sheet slides on surface (friction coeff0),
thickness is uniform everywhere
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- Thickness of free portion of membrane
- Two extremes shown in next figure
- If sheet slides on surface (friction coeff0),
thickness is uniform everywhere - If sheet sticks to surface (friction coeff1),
sheet on cap is original thickness
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- Experiment
- Draw a circle on the free portion of the sheet
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- Experiment
- Draw a circle on the free portion of the sheet
- Press the plug into the sheet to a given depth
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- Experiment
- Draw a circle on the free portion of the sheet
- Press the plug into the sheet to a given depth
- Measure the major and minor axes of the ellipse
(a and b)
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- Experiment
- Draw a circle on the free portion of the sheet
- Press the plug into the sheet to a given depth
- Measure the major and minor axes of the ellipse
(a and b) - Use the relative areal draw ratio equation
- Rarel r2/ab
- to calculate reduced thickness, 1/ Rarel
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- Comparison of Theory and Experiment
- Penetration No Frict Max Frict Exptl
- 2.0 in 0.832 0.813 0.805
- 2.4 in 0.778 0.738 0.744
- Average of 9-10 experiments
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Solid Circles Measured Red Tk
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- Sheet Thickness
- What about the relationship between stretching
force and sheet thickness?
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- Sheet Thickness
- What about the relationship between stretching
force and sheet thickness? - According to plane strain theory, the force
increases in proportion to the thickness. - Does this hold true for this experiment?
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- Observations
- The nature of the dry plug surface does not
substantially affect the amount of force needed
to stretch the membrane
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- Observations
- The nature of the dry plug surface does not
substantially affect the amount of force needed
to stretch the membrane - It appears that from simple measurements, the
sheet adheres to rather than slides on the dry
plug
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- Lubed Interface
- So far, all experiments have been with a presumed
dry interface
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- Lubed Interface
- So far, all experiments have been with a presumed
dry interface - Remember the discussion on wet v. dry sliding?
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- Lubed Interface
- So far, all experiments have been with a presumed
dry interface - Remember the discussion on wet v. dry sliding?
What happens if the interface is lubricated?
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- Lubed Interface
- Large plug coated with
- Heavy grease oil-based
- Glycerin water-based
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- Observations
- So, what happened when the interface is
lubricated?
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- Observations
- So, what happened when the interface is
lubricated? - If its oil-lubed, essentially nothing..
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- Observations
- So, what happened when the interface is
lubricated? - If its oil-lubed, essentially nothing..
- But if its water-lubed, stretching force is
reduced
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- Observations
- So, what happened when the interface is
lubricated? - If its oil-lubed, essentially nothing..
- But if its water-lubed, stretching force is
reduced - This obviously needs more study!
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- Conclusions
- From simple plug experiments, it is apparent (at
least to me) that the interaction between the
plug and the sheet is not clearly defined
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- Conclusions
- From simple plug experiments, it is apparent (at
least to me) that the interaction between the
plug and the sheet is not clearly defined - It is not apparent (again, at least to me) that
coefficient of friction is an appropriate measure
of this interaction
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- Conclusions
- Simple measurements show applied force increases
with increasing sheet thickness
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- Conclusions
- Simple measurements show applied force increases
with increasing sheet thickness - Something is going on when the interface is
lubricated. But why is the force reduced only
when the lube is water-based?
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- Conclusions
- Furthermore, one might anticipate that with
thick-gauge sheet, compression and shear might
also be important - in addition to (or instead
of) sliding.
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- Conclusions
- Furthermore, one might anticipate that with
thick-gauge sheet, compression and shear might
also be important - in addition to (or instead
of) sliding. - But the question remains
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- In plug-assist thermoforming,
- what is sliding against what?
128Questions?
129- THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION!