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Title: Servants Preparation Program


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  • Servants Preparation Program
  • CMP 102, Denominations

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The Catholic Church After Vatican II
  • And you shall know the truth, and the truth
    shall make you free.
  • (John 832)
  • Fr. Marcus Mansour
  • St. Mark Coptic Orthodox Church
  • Phoenix, Arizona
  • Servants Preparation 2005-2006

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Introduction
  • In addition to the dogmatic differences we
    discussed in the previous lecture, the Catholic
    Church has introduced new concepts in
    understanding their faith during its last
    Catholic Council known as Vatican II, 1964-1968.
  • Careful study of these new concepts is a must
    before entering into any dialogue with the
    Catholic Church.

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The Catholic Church After Vatican II
  • 1. Faith and Reason
  • The Roman Catholic Church places a high value on
    human reason. Its history shows the consequence
    of that trust.
  • For example, in the Latin Middle Ages, the 13th
    century, the theologian-philosopher, Thomas
    Aquinas, joined "Christianity" with the
    philosophy of Aristotle.
  • From that period till now, the Latins have never
    wavered in their respect for human wisdom, and it
    has radically altered the theology, mysteries and
    institutions of the Christian religion.

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The Catholic Church after Vatican II Faith and
Reason
  • Following the Holy Fathers, Orthodoxy uses
    science and philosophy to defend and explain her
    faith.
  • Unlike Roman Catholicism, she does not build on
    the results of philosophy and science.
  • The Church does not seek to reconcile faith and
    reason. She makes no effort to prove by logic or
    science what Christ gave His followers to
    believe.
  • If physics or biology or chemistry or philosophy
    lends support to the teachings of the Church, she
    does not refuse them.
  • However, Orthodoxy is not intimidated by man's
    intellectual accomplishments. She does not bow to
    them and change the Christian Faith to make it
    consistent with the results of human thought and
    science.

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The Catholic Church after Vatican II Faith and
Reason
  • St. Basil the Great advised young monks to use
    Greek philosophy as a bee uses the flower.
  • Take only the honey, the truth, which God has
    planted in the world to prepare men for the
    Coming of the Lord.
  • However, the Catholic Church does not mind
    teaching that the story of creation in the book
    of Genesis is merely symbolism in order to
    reconcile with the theory of evolution.

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The Catholic Church after Vatican II The
Development of Doctrine
  • The teaching of the Church has always been that
    Christianity has remained unaltered from the
    moment that the Lord delivered the Faith to the
    Apostles (Matt 2818-20).
  • She affirms that "the faith once delivered to the
    saints" (Jude 3) is now what it was in the
    beginning.

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The Catholic Church after Vatican II The
Development of Doctrine
  • On the other hand, the Roman Catholic Church is
    unable to show a continuity of faith.
  • In order to justify new doctrine, it erected in
    the last century, a theory of doctrinal
    development.
  • Basically, Catholicism began to define and teach
    the idea that Christ only gave us an original
    deposit of faith, a seed, which grew and
    matured through the centuries.

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The Catholic Church after Vatican II The
Development of Doctrine
  • The Holy Spirit, they said, amplified the
    Christian Faith as the Church moved into new
    circumstances and acquired other needs.
  • Consequently, Roman Catholicism pictures its
    theology as growing in stages, to higher and more
    clearly defined levels of knowledge.
  • The teachings of the Fathers, as important as
    they are, belong to a stage or level below the
    theology of the Latin Middle Ages
    (Scholasticism), and that theology is lower than
    the new ideas which have come after it, such as
    Vatican II.

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The Catholic Church after Vatican II The
Development of Doctrine
  • All the stages are useful, all are resources the
    theologian may appeal to the Fathers, for
    example, but they may also be contradicted by
    something else, something higher or newer.
  • On this basis, theories such as the dogmas of
    papal infallibility and the immaculate
    conception of the Virgin Mary are justifiably
    presented to the faithful as necessary for their
    salvation.

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The Catholic Church after Vatican II The
Development of Doctrine
  • On the other hand, Orthodoxy recognizes external
    changes (e.g., vestments of clergy, monastic
    habits, new feasts, canons of ecumenical and
    regional councils, etc.), but nothing has been
    added or subtracted from her Faith.
  • The external changes have a single purpose To
    express that Faith under new circumstances.
  • For example, the Bible and divine services were
    translated from Hebrew and Greek into the
    language of new lands, or new religious customs
    arose to express the ethnic sensibilities of the
    converted peoples, etc.
  • Nevertheless, there has always been "one faith,
    one Lord, one baptism" (Eph 44).

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The Catholic Church after Vatican II God
  • Roman Catholicism teaches that human reason can
    prove that God is, and, even infer that He is
    eternal, infinite, good, bodiless, almighty,
    all-knowing, etc. He is a most real being, a
    true being. Humans are like Him (analogous),
    but we are imperfect beings.
  • The God of Roman Catholicism, born in the Latin
    Middle Ages, is not the God of Abraham, Isaac
    and Jacob, but the God of the savants and the
    philosophers, to adapt the celebrated phrase of
    Blaise Pascal (1623-1662).

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The Catholic Church after Vatican II God
  • Following the Holy Fathers, Orthodoxy teaches
    that the knowledge of God is planted in human
    nature and that is how we know Him to exist.
  • Otherwise, unless God speaks to us, human reason
    cannot know more. The saving knowledge of God
    comes by the Savior.
  • Speaking to His Father, He said, And this is
    life eternal, that they might know You, the only
    true God, and Jesus Christ, whom You have sent
    (John 173).

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The Catholic Church after Vatican II God
  • Roman Catholicism teaches, also, that, in the Age
    to Come, man will, with his intellect and with
    the assistance of grace, behold the Essence of
    God.
  • However, the Fathers declare that it is
    impossible to behold God in Himself. Not even
    divine grace will give us such power.
  • The saved will see, however, God as the glorified
    flesh of Christ.

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The Catholic Church after Vatican II God
  • Finally, Roman Catholicism teaches that the Holy
    Spirit proceeds from the Father and the Son
    (filioque).
  • In so doing, it spurned the Apostolic Tradition
    which always taught that God the Father is the
    single Source (monarchy) of the Son and the
    Spirit.
  • Thus, the Latins added words to the Nicean Creed.
    They made this change on the authority of the
    Pope, in the 11th century, not via a Council of
    the whole Church (Ecumenical Council).

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The Catholic Church after Vatican II The Church
  • The Roman Catholic view of the Church
    (ecclesiology) differs from the Orthodox teaching
    on this subject in several ways.
  • The Latins teach that the visible head of the
    Church is the Pope, the successor to St. Peter,
    who was appointed to that sacred position by the
    Lord Himself with the words, you are Peter and
    upon this rock I shall build my Church . . .
    (Mat 1618).

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The Catholic Church after Vatican II The Church
  • According to their understanding
  • The Pope is then, the Bishop of the Catholic
    Church, her teacher, the vicar (agent, deputy)
    of Christ on earth.
  • He is the interpreter of the Christian Tradition.
  • When he speaks for the whole Church from his
    throne (ex cathedra), the Holy Spirit does not
    permit him to err.
  • He is, therefore, infallible on matters of morals
    and doctrine. Other bishops are his lieutenants.
    He is the symbol of the episcopate's unity.

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The Catholic Church after Vatican II The Church
  • The Orthodox Church, on the other hand, teaches
    that all bishops are equal. To be sure, there are
    different ranks of bishops (patriarch,
    archbishop, metropolitan, bishop) nevertheless,
    a bishop is a bishop.
  • Such differences apply to the administration of a
    church or group of churches, not to the nature of
    the bishop.
  • The president of a synod of bishops is called
    archbishop (Greek custom) or metropolitan
    (Russian custom).

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The Catholic Church after Vatican II The Church
  • According to Latin ecclesiology, each local
    parish is part of the universal or whole Church.
    The totalities of Catholic parishes form the body
    of Christ on earth. This visible body has a
    visible head, the Pope.
  • This idea of the Church implies that the local
    parish has two heads the Pope and the local
    bishop. But a body with two visible heads is a
    monster.
  • Also, the local bishop seems stripped of his
    apostolic authority if the Pope may contradict
    his orders.

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The Catholic Church after Vatican II The Holy
Canons
  • A canon is a rule or guide for governing the
    Church.
  • Canons were composed by the Apostles, the
    Fathers, the local or regional and general or
    ecumenical Councils.
  • Only the bishop, as head of the church, applies
    them. He may use them strictly (akreveia) or
    leniently (economia). However, strictness is
    the norm.

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The Catholic Church after Vatican II The Holy
Canons
  • The Catholic Church continues to change its
    canons, ignoring the old for the new.
  • Not more than two decades ago, Rome revised its
    Canon Law. It composed new canons to keep up with
    the times.
  • On the other hand, Orthodoxy, albeit adding
    canons from time to time and place to place,
    never discards the old ones, for they, too, are
    inspired by the Holy Spirit.
  • In any case, human problems and spiritual needs
    do not really change. New canons are generally
    simple refinements of old canons.

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The Catholic Church after Vatican II The Nature
of Man
  • Human nature was created good, even in communion
    with the blessed Trinity which made him. Male
    and female were created in the image and
    likeness of God (Gen 126)
  • likeness in virtue image meaning to rule
    the earth rationally, to act wisely and freely.
  • The woman was made as a helper to the man (Gen
    218 1 Cor 118-9). They were to live together
    in harmony and mutual respect.

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The Catholic Church after Vatican II The Nature
of Man
  • Roman Catholicism differs with Orthodoxy on the
    nature of mans fall and the human condition.
  • Following Augustine of Hippo, the Latins teach
    that Adam and Eve sinned against God. The guilt
    of their sin has been inherited by every man,
    woman and child after them.
  • All humanity is liable for their original sin.

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The Catholic Church after Vatican II The Nature
of Man
  • Following the Holy Fathers, the Orthodox Church
    holds that when Adam sinned against God, he
    introduced death to the world.
  • Since all men are born of the same human stock as
    Adam, all men inherit death.
  • Death means that the life of every human being
    comes to an end (mortality) but also that death
    generates in us the passions (anger, hate, lust,
    greed, etc.), disease and aging.

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The Catholic Church after Vatican II Marriage
Between Catholics and Non-Believers
  • The Roman Catholic Church may perform the
    sacrament of matrimony between one of its members
    and a non-believer.
  • The excuse they use is the permission St. Paul
    gave to a believer to stay with the unbelieving
    spouse (1 Cor 713).
  • The Catholics went as far as performing the
    marriage on the Catholic member without the
    presence of the spouse if he/she does not want to
    enter the Church, or allow the priest to place
    the cross on his/her head!
  • They claim that the unbelieving husband is
    sanctified by the wife, and the unbelieving wife
    is sanctified by the husband (1 Cor 714).

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The Catholic Church after Vatican II Marriage
Between Catholics and Non-Believers
  • The Orthodox Church does not accept this kind of
    marriage, affirming that St. Paul was talking
    about a married couple prior to accepting Jesus
    Christ.
  • This is very clear from the same chapter of the
    first letter to the Corinthians A wife is bound
    by law as long as her husband lives but if her
    husband dies, she is at liberty to be married to
    whom she wishes, only in the Lord (1 Cor 739).
  • In addition, the Scriptures teach us that man is
    the head of the woman who should obey him as the
    Church obeys Christ. So, how can this take place
    if the husband is an unbeliever?

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The Catholic Church after Vatican II Salvation
of Non-Believers
  • Vatican II declared Finally, those who have not
    yet received the Gospel are related in various
    ways to the people of God But the plan of
    salvation also includes those who acknowledge the
    Creator. In the first place amongst these there
    are the Mohamedans, who, professing to hold the
    faith of Abraham,

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The Catholic Church after Vatican II Salvation
of Non-Believers
  • The Catholics use St. Paul again to justify their
    new dogma for when Gentiles, who do not have
    the law, by nature do the things in the law,
    these, although not having the law, are a law to
    themselves (Rom 214).
  • Actually, this verse proves exactly the opposite
    of what the Catholic Church has approved!

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The Catholic Church after Vatican II Salvation
of Non-Believers
  • They use also a verse from St. Peter But in
    every nation whoever fears Him and works
    righteousness is accepted by Him (Acts 1035).
  • It seems that they overlooked the fact that St.
    Peter said this at the house of Cornelius who was
    a Gentile and the people in his house had
    accepted the Lord and were baptized.
  • The Scriptures are clear that those who were
    justified were justified by faith (Rom 43
    321,22 326 51 )

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The Catholic Church after Vatican II Salvation
of Non-Believers
  • Catholics support their position by what St. Paul
    did in Athens when he said, Men of Athens, I
    perceive that in all things you are very
    religious for as I was passing through and
    considering the objects of your worship, I even
    found an altar with this inscription TO THE
    UNKNOWN GOD. Therefore, the One whom you worship
    without knowing, Him I proclaim to you (Acts
    1722-25).
  • They overlooked the fact that St Pauls spirit
    was provoked within him when he saw that the city
    was given over to idols (Acts. 17 16).

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The Catholic Church after Vatican II Salvation
of Non-Believers
  • Catholics also argue that not all people received
    the message of Jesus Christ overlooking the fact
    that it is Gods responsibility to call upon all
    those who diligently seek Him, and that He did
    not leave Himself without a witness (Acts 1417).

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The Catholic Church after Vatican II Salvation
of Non-Believers
  • Not only have the Catholics used wrong
    interpretations of the Scriptures, they ignored
    the general message of the Scriptures regarding
    this issue. For example
  • Jesus Christ said Most assuredly, I say to you,
    unless one is born again, he cannot see the
    kingdom of God (John 33). So, how may the
    unbelievers enter the Kingdom of God?
  • John the Baptist said, He who believes in the
    Son has everlasting life and he who does not
    believe the Son shall not see life, but the wrath
    of God abides on him (John 336).

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The Catholic Church after Vatican II Salvation
of Non-Believers
  • St. Paul said to his disciple Timothy Remember
    that Jesus Christ, of the seed of David, was
    raised from the dead according to my gospel, for
    which I suffer trouble as an evildoer, even to
    the point of chains but the word of God is not
    chained. Therefore I endure all things for the
    sake of the elect, that they also may obtain the
    salvation which is in Christ Jesus with eternal
    glory (2 Tim 28-10).

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The Catholic Church after Vatican II Salvation
of Non-Believers
  • St. Paul also said Rather, that the things
    which the Gentiles sacrifice they sacrifice to
    demons and not to God (1 Cor 1020).
  • David the psalmist said, Let all be put to shame
    who serve carved images, who boast of idols (Psa
    977).

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The Catholic Church after Vatican II Salvation
of Non-Believers
  • St. Paul says about the Jews who did not believe
    in the Lord Jesus Christ For you also suffered
    the same things from your own countrymen, just as
    they did from the Judeans, who killed both the
    Lord Jesus and their own prophets, and have
    persecuted us and they do not please God and are
    contrary to all men (I Thes 214-16).

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The Catholic Church after Vatican II Salvation
of Non-Believers
  • The Scriptures teach us that unbelievers will go
    to Hell It is done! I am the Alpha and the
    Omega, the Beginning and the End. I will give of
    the fountain of the water of life freely to him
    who thirsts. He who overcomes shall inherit all
    things, and I will be his God and he shall be My
    son. But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable,
    murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers,
    idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in
    the lake which burns with fire and brimstone,
    which is the second death (Rev 216-8).

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The Catholic Church after Vatican II Other
Differences
  • There are other differences of lesser importance
    between Orthodoxy and Roman Catholicism, such as
  • The absence of almost all fasts from the Catholic
    Church.
  • Although Catholics do baptize infants, the
    sacrament of confirmation is delayed until at
    least the age of 8.
  • The above point leads to not serving communion to
    little children until they are confirmed.

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The Catholic Church after Vatican II Other
Differences
  • Baptism is mostly by sprinkling the water on the
    head of the person and not necessarily by
    immersion.
  • The use of unleavened bread instead of leavened
    bread for communion.
  • It is the choice of the person to receive the
    Blood of Christ receiving only the Body is
    sufficient.
  • Giving permission to the deacons and the nuns to
    serve communion at hospitals.

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The Catholic Church after Vatican II Other
Differences
  • Not allowing divorce, even in cases of adultery.
  • Not necessary for churches to face East at the
    time of prayer.
  • A priest may serve more than one liturgy per day,
    on the same altar, and participate in the
    communion each time.
  • Catholics may participate in the communion
    provided that they fast at least two hours from
    food and one half hour from drink.

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The Catholic Church after Vatican II Other
Differences
  • Two other major differences between Catholics and
    Orthodox
  • The Catholics allow any person (even a
    non-Christian) to perform baptisms
  • They may administer communion to anyone, even
    unbelievers.
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