Title: The Scenario
1The Scenario
- 72 year old lady, NOF
- Redness, swelling, discharge of wound
- wound swab
- Catheter in place
- catheter stream urine
2Wound Infection
- Most likely causative organism?
- Staphylococcus aureus
- Why do we say this?
- Most common pathogen of clean wounds.
- Reservoirs of infection?
3Antibiotic Therapy
- Why not wait for wound swab report?
- At least 24 - 48 hrs!!
- Empiric therapy - factors.
- Most probable organism/sensitivity
- Any other information?
4An Urgent Gram stain
5Good news or bad news
6Pathology Report
- Patient name Dot Evans
- Specimen Wound swab - post op, hip
- Culture Staphylococcus aureus
- Penicillin R Tetracycline R
- Erythromycin R Ciprofloxacin R
- Vancomycin SENSITIVE
- MRSA
7Impact of the Ron the patient?
- Delay appropriate therapy
- Second choice drug
- IV, broad spectrum
- toxicity
- Isolation
- Length of stay
8MRSAReservoirs/transmission
- Must be exogenous - WHY?
- Sources of MRSA
- Hospital environment, patients
- Hospital staff ???
- Staff as mechanical vectors
- Handwashing
- Gloves
9MRSA Institutional Issues
- Isolate positive patients
- Why? It isnt airborne
- Screen incoming patients
- Which patients?
- How do you screen, how long does it take?
- What do you do with the patients while you wait?
10Meanwhile back at the bladder
- Patient also has a UTI.
- General risk factors - nosocomial UTI
- Posture, hydration, urinary stasis
- Increased colonisation
- Catheterisation - MAJOR factor
11UTI Reservoir of Infection
- Endogenous bowel flora.
- But the organism was a hospital bug
- Bowel flora is a dynamic entity
- reflects the microbial environment
12Pathology Report
- Patient Dot Evans
- Specimen Catheter stream urine
- Culture Pseudomonas aeruginosa
- Ampicillin R Augmentin R
- Gentamicin S Cefotaxime S
- Pseudo is normal bowel flora but uncommon in
UTIs in non hospital pts
13Not a happy camper
- Empiric - flucloxacillin, ampicillin
- Spectacularly unsuccessful.
- Now on - vancomycin, cefotaxime.
- Showing renewed signs of sepsis
- ? ? pneumonia !! - ? ?septicaemia
- But we have fixed the broken hip !
14Nosocomial pneumonia
15Klebsiella pneumoniae
16Extended spectrum B-lactamase
17Noso pneumoniarisk factors
- Essential pre-requisite
- Nasopharyngeal colonisation
- Antibiotic therapy promotes this.
- Progression to infection
- Posture, aspiration
- Cough reflex
- Gastric bacterial overgrowth
18The Demtel syndrome
- Broken hip
- Post op wound infection and UTI
- Flucloxacillin and ampicillin
- Vancomycin and cefotaxime
- Pneumonia - added imipenem
BUT WAIT, theres more!!
19Blood cultures
- Collection issues
- Asepsis
- Timing
- volume
20Positive blood culture
- Which organism and portal of entry?
- Klebsiella / pneumonia
- S.aureus / wound infection
- Pseudomonas / urinary tract infection
- Anything else?
- What about the venous catheter?
21Central venous catheter
22Central venous catheter
23Colonised CVC
24All part of the service
- Post op wound infection, UTI , pneumonia and
septicaemia - MRSA Pseudomonas Klebsiella
- Flucloxacillin, ampicillin, vancomycin and
imipenem
INCREASED LENGTH OF STAY
25Not surprisingly...
- . All this is giving Dot, the shits
- Nosocomial diarrhoea
- Most likely causative organism?
- Clostridium difficile
- Predisposing factors
- Most likely reservoir (problems)
26Has anybody seen my bowel flora ?
27Forget my bowel flora- check out my bowel?
28Clostridium difficile treatment
- More antibiotics ?
- Vancomycin or metronidazole
- Re-populate the bowel
- Oral or enema with lactobacillus capsules
- ? Faecal enema
29Hello,there Mrs Evans,now what have we been
doing to you then?
- Wound infection - cured that.
- Urinary tract infection - cured that.
- Pneumonia - cured that.
- Septicaemia - cured that.
- Diarrhoea - cured that.
- and what have you been doing?
- ooooh, just lying here Doctor
30Lying there and pressure sores
31Moral of the story..Pt 1
- One thing stood between Mrs Evans and a speedy
uneventful recovery.. - Nosocomial infection (MRSA)
- and what got Mrs Evans and those nasty little
bugs together? - Grubby little hands
32Moral of the story..Pt 2
- Flucloxacillin, ampicillin, vancomycin,
cefotaxime, imipenem and an extra 6 weeks
hospitalisation at 500 per day.. - or a 2 minute, 50 cent handwash.
- ITS YOUR CHOICE !