Title: For the motion: Endovascular Therapy is a better option for limb salvage in diabetic ulcer treatment
1For the motion Endovascular Therapy is a better
option for limb salvage in diabetic ulcer
treatment
- Dr. Prasad Jetty
- Division of Vascular and Endovascular Surgery
- The Ottawa Hospital
- University of Ottawa
2Endo vs open surgery for diabetic ulcers
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5 1. Patency
- Patency of angioplasty is worse than bypass in
diabetic ulcer patients - YES
Angioplasty patency is worse!
6 1. Patency
- BUT ARE BYPASSES THAT GREAT???
- 30-40 of bypasses develop stenoses with in 1 yr
(Seminars of Vascular Surgery 2012 25108-114) - 20-80 of successful patent bypasses have
recurrent or persistent ulcers or wounds at 1 yr
(Seminars of Vascular Surgery 2012 25108-114) - Too late or bypass flow is not enough
- Non-ischemic ulcer
- Occluded bypass does not necessarily mean
amputation or recurrent ulcer
7 1. Patency
- With good surveillance post angioplasty one can
identify restenoses early and can easily and
safely repeat the endovascular intervention and
thus rival the patency rates of bypass procedures
8 1. Patency
- Are vasculopaths really looking for high 5 and 10
years patencies? - 1 year mortality of patients with CLI is 25
(American College of Cardiology, Canadian
Cardiovascular Society 2005, 2009 updated
guidelines)
9 1. Patency
- Therefore angioplasty may only need to be patent
long enough until the patient dies from another
cause or at least long enough to allow for ulcer
healing, and can easily be repeated if it recurs
102. Periprocedural mortality and morbidity
ELDERLY
DIABETES
CORONARY DISEASE
COPD
SMOKER
RENAL FAILURE
DYSLIPIDEMIA
HYPERTENSION
OBESE
112. Periprocedural mortality and morbidity
- Large prospective NSQIP analysis of gt2500
patients revealed bypass has 20 periprocedural
complication rate, and 49 readmission rate at 6
mos (65 are bypass related) - (LaMuraglia et al. Significant periooperative
morbidity accompanies contemporary bypass
surgery. Eu J Vasc Endo vasc Surg 2012
43(5)549-55) - Conte et al. Diabetic Revascularization Do we
have the answer Semin Vasc Surg 201225108-114
122. Periprocedural mortality and morbidity
- 10-20 of bypass develop incisional wound
complications - metaanalysis 12 decline in ambulation and 15
loss of independent living post bypass surgery - (LaMuraglia et al. Significant periooperative
morbidity accompanies contemporary bypass
surgery. Eu J Vasc Endo vasc Surg 2012
43(5)549-55) - Conte et al. Diabetic Revascularization Do we
have the answer Semin Vasc Surg 201225108-114
132. Periprocedural mortality and morbidity
- Complications post angioplasty is 2 (groin
hematomas, pseudoaneurysms) and the patient is
discharged the same day) - (LaMuraglia et al. Significant periooperative
morbidity accompanies contemporary bypass
surgery. Eu J Vasc Endo vasc Surg 2012
43(5)549-55) - Conte et al. Diabetic Revascularization Do we
have the answer Semin Vasc Surg 201225108-114
143. Multiple run-off vessels and distal pedal
circulation
154. Burning bridges?
You will be burning bridges!
164. Burning bridges?
- BASIL trial
- Concluded that survival is worse in pts who had
endo-first failures followed by rescue bypass vs
bypass-first pts
174. Burning bridges?
- Flawed logic- Selection Bias
- Pts who failed angioplasty have selected
themselves out as higher risk - Problems with BASIL
- Extremely highly selective- only 1/10 patients
randomized actually got the procedure they were
suppose to get (does not represent the usual
vascular population) - Interventional radiologists did the endo
procedures vs vascular surgeons - Procedures done 12-14 years ago - OUTDATED!!
- There are some good things about BASIL....
184. Burning bridges?
- BASIL is very good in thai food
195. Do all diabetic ulcers with vascular stenoses
or occlusions need revascularization?
NO
Loss of sensation- prone to injury Demyelination
and atrophy of intrinsic muscles Disruption of
normal bony architecture Resultant abnormal
pressure points Impaired immunity and delay in
healing Micro vascular ischemia Macro vascular
ischemia
205. Not all diabetic ulcers with vascular
stenoses or occlusions need revascularization
- some will heal with conservative therapy
- It is difficult to know exactly who will benefit
- Tendancy for vascular specialist to revascularize
in the setting of concomittant vascular disease
and therefore some patients maybe receiving
revascularization when it may not be necessary.
215. Not all diabetic ulcers with vascular
stenoses or occlusions need revasculariztion
- An unnecessary bypass may be worse than an
unnecessary angioplasty
22Ask Uncle Google
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24Thank you
- Division of Vascular and Endovascular surgery
- The Ottawa Hospital and University of Ottawa
25Round 1
26Rebuttal
27TASC 2 Classification
- Type A endovascular procedures are recommended
- Type B endovascular procedures are recommended
unless an open revascularization procedure
(surgery) is required for other lesions in the
same anatomic area - Type C open revascularization procedures are
recommended. Endovascular procedures are only
recommended in patients who have a low healing
potential following surgical revascularization - Type D endovascular procedures are not
recommended as first-line treatment
28TASC guidelines are lesion-centric and do not
emphasize the importance of weighing comorbid
factors and life expectancy
296. If you dont embrace endovascular therapy
someone else will
- It is crucial that the vascular surgeon embraces
endo and leads innovation in the field otherwise
we are going towards extinction
30Evolution
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