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Title: The 403(b): Does the Company You Invest With Matter?


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The 403(b)Does the Company You Invest With
Matter?
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Disclaimer
  • Everything I am going to tell you is to the best
    of my knowledge true.
  • You are responsible for verifying any information
    I present.
  • You are responsible for any investment decisions
    you make.
  • This presentation is designed to be informational
    only and should not be interpreted as investment
    advice.

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Check With the Pros
  • All the content in this presentation should be
    validated with your current provider as to its
    accuracy with respect to that particular company.

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Risk vs. Reward
  • Long term investing reward does not come without
    risk. They cant be one without the other. Your
    risk tolerance refers to how much fluctuation in
    price over time you are willing to endure.

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What Is a 403(b)?
  • A government program to relieve the financial
    stresses placed on the Federal Government by
    retirees.
  • Established in as a way to encourage employees
    at non-profit institutions to save for
    retirement. Only Tax Sheltered Annuities were
    allowed.
  • In 1974 the Law was changed to allow mutual fund
    investing or Custodial Accounts.

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What Makes a 403(b) Great?
  • Tax Deductible Contributions
  • Tax Deferred Growth
  • p.s. Its those same things that make an IRA or a
    401(k) great.

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Tax-Deductible Contributions
  • Ex Suppose you earn 70,000 per year
  • When you approximate your income taxes take 25
    of 70,000.
  • .2570,000 17,500 in taxes
  • If you contribute 10,000 to your account
  • 70,000-10,00060,000.2515,000 in taxes
  • You save 2,500 simply by investing. This is
    fact.

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Tax-Deferred Growth Capital Gains and
Dividends(Simplified)
  • When you sell a stock for more than you pay you
    get taxed on the difference. This is called
    Capital Gains.
  • When a stock pays dividends it pays out a portion
    of its profits to its shareholders.
  • The rules can be complicated, but to simplify, at
    the end of the fiscal year, you must pay taxes on
    Capital Gains and Dividends.
  • When investments grow tax-deferred, you do not
    pay the taxes on Capital Gains and dividends
    until you take the money out at retirement!!!
  • This is a great thing! There are not a lot of
    ways to get tax-deferral. 403(b)s, IRAs and
    401(k)s are a few.

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So Whats Bad (Good) About Them
  • You cant get your money without penalty until
    you turn 59 ½ years old.
  • When you take out the money you WILL PAY TAXES on
    the original contributions, the capital gains and
    the dividends.

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The 403(b) vs. The 403(b)(7)
  • There are 2 Types of 403(b)s
  • 403(b) a.k.a. Tax Sheltered Annuity
  • 403(b)(7) a.k.a. Custodial Account
  • This is where it starts to get interesting!

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Who Offers What
  • The Insurance Companies Major Offering is the
    403(b) Tax Sheltered Annuity
  • Some Insurance Companies also offer a 403(b)(7)
    Custodial Account
  • Vanguard only offers a 403(b)(7) Custodial Account

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The Similarities
  • 403(b)s and 403(b)(7)s both offer
  • Tax Deductible Contributions
  • Tax Deferred Growth
  • Access to the stock market
  • Access to the bond market
  • Automatic payroll deductions (dollar cost
    averaging)

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The Difference What a 403(b) Has, That a
403(b)(7) Does Not
  • In a 403(b), you sign into a Variable Annuity,
    which is a financial product that has..
  • Tax Deferred Growth
  • A Death Benefit
  • The opportunity to Annuitize your investment
  • The opportunity to take out a loan against your
    account balance.
  • Variable Annuities are available to anyone
  • A Variable Annuity is not included in a 403(b)(7)

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Duh?
  • The Question
  • So why not just get a 403(b) rather than a
    403(b)(7) if in a 403(b) you get more?
  • The Answer
  • A 403(b) costs more, and you should only get one
    if the extras are worth the cost. Maybe they are,
    maybe they arent. Thats what you need to decide.

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Whats an Annuity?
  • Typically, an Annuity is a contract with an
    Insurance Company in which you give a bunch of
    money to them, and they agree to pay you money
    back over time. Typically until you die. Once you
    die, they typically keep whatever money is left
  • There are cases in which an annuity may be a
    sound investment.
  • The annuity most of you have is probably a
    deferred variable annuity which is a type of
    insurance policy typically packaged within a
    403(b).

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How Does a Deferred Variable Annuity Work?
  • During your working years you contribute to your
    403(b) TSA. This is called the accumulation
    phase of the annuity.
  • The amount your money grows varies depending on
    how your investments do. Thats why its called
    variable
  • After you stop contributing and you want to start
    getting payments back, they figure out how much
    you will get each year, month etc and they start
    paying you.
  • The Deferred part refers to the fact that you
    dont actually Annuitize, or start taking
    payments until long after you actually signed the
    contract.
  • Important Note You do not have to Annuitize. You
    may just take the money out when want it pursuant
    to the IRS regulations.

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The Problem
  • One of the main reasons people purchase variable
    annuities is for the tax-deferral
  • 403(b)s are already tax-deferred
  • Its absurd to put a tax-sheltered investment
    like a variable annuity into an IRA, which is
    already tax sheltered. The only person who makes
    out on this deal is your broker.
  • Lani Luciano, MONEY, January 1997 at 141

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The cost of a Variable Annuity inside a 403(b)
  • Variable Annuities typically charge you in 3 ways
  • Management Fees Around .25
  • Expense Ratio Around .75
  • ME Fees Around 1.25 (www.sec.gov)
  • ME stands for Mortality and Expenses. This fee
    includes paying for the death benefit,
    advertising for the company and paying your rep.
  • At Vanguard, you only pay the Expense Ratio and a
    yearly fee of 15 per year per fund.

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The 403(b)
403(b) TSA
403(b)(7) Custodial Account
Variable Annuity
Mutual Funds
Mutual Funds
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Who is Vanguard?
  • Who we are
  • Vanguard is one of the world's largest investment
    management companies. Whether you are an
    individual investor, institution, or financial
    professional, you can benefit from the size,
    stability, and experience that we offer.
  • Our mission statement
  • Vanguard's mission is to help clients reach their
    financial goals by being the world's
    highest-value provider of investment products and
    services.

Taken from www.vanguard.com
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Who is Vanguard?
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Variable Annuities It Costs More, So
What Do You Get?
  • Tax sheltered growth. (Oops, you already have
    that)
  • Loan Provisions You can take out a loan against
    your account
  • A Death Benefit
  • The opportunity to Annuitize your account at a
    later date.
  • A representative who cares about you, and who
    typically earns at least a portion of his salary
    through commissions.

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The Death Benefit
  • With variable annuities, if you die, your
    beneficiary will receive the greater of,
  • a) the current value of your account
  • b) a check for the total amount of money you
    have invested over time, also called your
    principal
  • c) A step up benefit

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Possible Death Benefit Outcomes
  • Assume for 10 years you have invested 10,000
    each year into your 403(b)
  • Your Principal is therefore 100,000
  • What happens if you die?

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Outcome 1
  • If your 403(b) account is worth more than
    100,000, your beneficiary will inherit the
    entire amount
  • This is the most likely outcome.
  • Even if you had a 403(b)(7) rather than a 403(b),
    your beneficiary would still get the entire
    amount.

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Outcome 2
  • If your account is worth less than 100,000, your
    beneficiary will receive a check for 100,000.
    This is not true in a 403(b)(7).
  • What is the probability of different losses?
  • Not only is it unlikely to have lost money, but
    at what cost?

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Historical U.S. Stock Market Returns
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Industry Quote Regarding Payouts
  • Ron Panko, Can Annuities Pass Muster?, BESTS
    REVIEW, July 2000 at 103
  • When Hartford Life was asked in the discovery
    process how much in death benefits the company
    had paid in the 17 years the San Diego and Los
    Angeles plans had existed, Hartford claimed it
    had paid a single death benefit totaling only
    119 in San Diego and no death benefits in Los
    Angeles.

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The Cost of The Death Benefit
  • The average annuity death benefit, a portion of
    your ME expenses, costs about 1.25 of the total
    assets in your 403(b) account. (www.sec.gov)
  • The cost of your annuity on your 100,000 is
    therefore, conservatively, around 600.
  • I pay around 700 per year for a 1,000,000 life
    insurance policy!
  • Compare term life rates to annuity costs to get
    an idea if you are getting a good deal.

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Annuity Conclusion
  • You need to decide if a variable annuity is right
    for you!
  • If you think it is a good deal then buy it!
  • Read the next two quotes
  • More Quotes at http//www.insurancelaw.com/bib6.ht
    m

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Industry Quote
  • VA stands for Variable Annuity
  • New Schwab Studies Shed Light On Variable
    Annuity Debate Studies Look At Suitability of
    Annuities, Business Wire, November 6, 2002 Two
    new studies from the Schwab Center for Investment
    Research provide objective analysis on the
    factors that investors should consider when
    considering a variable annuity purchase.   
  • As qualified retirement plans offer tax
    advantages beyond those offered in a VA,
    investors should generally contribute the maximum
    allowable amount to qualified retirement plans
    prior to contributing to a non-qualified VA.
    Moreover, it is generally not appropriate to
    purchase a VA within a qualified (tax-deferred)
    retirement plan (such as a 403(b)).

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Industry Quote
  • Making the Most Of Your Retirement, CNNfn, May
    13, 2003 at 500pm Attorney and financial
    planner Gary Schatsky is the guest. 
  •  Host Ali Velshi asks You know. . . we dont
    have anybody who comes on this show, a good bunch
    of people, who recommend annuities.  Whats the
    problem?  Whos selling them and whos buying
    them if nobodys recommending them?   
  • Mr. Schatsky responds that people are getting
    sold annuities, but annuities can make sense
    only for a very small subset. . . .  I am sure
    you do know 60 percent of annuities are sold in
    IRA accounts and other retirement accounts. 
    The absolute worst place for them to be.  Your
    putting a tax shelter in a tax shelter and your
    paying for it.  

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403(b) Expenses
  • When you invest in a 403(b) you will generally
    select 1 or more Stock and/or Bond Funds to put
    your money in. These are called Mutual Funds
  • For most people, Mutual Funds are considered a
    great way to diversify your assets.

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403(b) Expenses Continued
  • Every Mutual Fund with every company has what is
    called an Expense Ratio
  • The Expense Ratio is the percentage of your
    assets every year that the Company you invest
    with takes as payment for them to manage the
    Mutual Fund and hold your money.

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How the Expense Ratio Effects your Net Worth
  • The Expense Ratio effects your Net Worth in 2
    Ways
  • They take money that would be yours.
  • The money they take can not continue to grow over
    time. This is called forgone earnings.

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How Expenses Effect Returns
  • Consider a standard SP 500 Fund

Insurance 1 .30
Insurance 2 .34
Vanguard .18
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How Expenses Effect Returns Some Examples
Assume an Initial Investment of 50,000 with no
additional contributions, earning 8 for 20 years.
Expense Ratio Fees Forgone Earnings Total Loss Ending Value
.18 4353 3894 8247 224,800
.34 8295 7486 15,782 217,265
1.1 23,857 22,393 46,250 186,797
Info from www.sec.gov/investor/tools/mfcc/mfcc-cal
culate.htm
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Do Fees Matter?
  • Do Fees and Expenses matter?
  • YES!
  • Are Fees and Expenses the only things that
    matter?
  • NO!

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Value After 25 Years
Contribution per paycheck
Out of Pocket Expense
Value After 5 Years
Value After 15 Years
Tax Reduction
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8 Return
No Expenses
.21 in Expenses
1.75 in Expenses
304,943
295,432
234,965
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Industry Quote
  • Do not invest in a variable annuity within a
    tax-deferred qualified plan you incur extra
    expenses for few benefits.
  • The author is a fee-only insurance adviser in New
    York City.
  • Glenn Daily, Investing In Variable Annuities
    The Selection Process, AAII JOURNAL, November
    1991 at 11

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My Advice
  • If you are going to invest in Mutual Funds, all
    other thing being equal, invest in the least
    expensive one!
  • Trust me, Im a math teacher!

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The Caveat
  • If you go with Vanguard, you will not be able to
    meet with anyone face-to-face.
  • You will have to choose your funds on your own or
    with the help of someone else.
  • You may want to consider paying a fee-only
    financial adviser to help you with this decision.

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Can you switch 403(b) Providers?
  • The answer is yes, but its hard to get the money
    you have already put in.
  • One company allows you to transfer 10 of your
    total assets every year penalty free.
  • Another company has a decreasing surrender charge
    depending on how long your money has been there.
  • Every company has a policy for withdrawals. There
    are usually surrender fees. Call and find out
    your policy.

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My Advice
  • Your knowledge is the only thing that will
    protect you.
  • Dont be afraid to call your rep and ask the
    questions that need to be asked. They can not
    lie to you about facts regarding your account,
    nor would they want to.
  • This is your money, protect it!
  • Dont do anything you dont fully understand!!!

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Some Questions You May Want to Know the Answer To
  • Link to The Questions
  • Many of these questions come from the SEC website
  • http//www.sec.gov/investor/pubs/varannty.htm

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Web Resources
  • www.403bwise.com The Mother of 403(b) sites
  • http//www.403bwise.com/wisemoves/annuities.html
    (this is a must read)
  • www.mcnuttmath.com
  • http//www.insurancelaw.com/bib-qualified-annuitie
    s.htm (an absolute must read)

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Web Resources
  • The following website is run by the Securities
    and Exchange Commission
  • Part of their site is specifically for teachers
    and is completely unbiased.
  • It is a great place to learn this stuff
  • http//www.sec.gov/investor/teachers.shtml

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Web Resources Calculators
  • These web sites allow you to calculate the effect
    of expenses on your investments
  • http//www.sec.gov/investor/tools/mfcc/mfcc-calcul
    ate.htm
  • http//flagship2.vanguard.com/VGApp/hnw/FundsCostC
    ompare
  • http//www.assetbuilder.com/wp-content/calcs/TheLo
    ngTermCostofExpensiveManagement.htm
  • http//www.ipers.org/sub/calcs/Retire403b.html
  • http//www.bloomsberg.com/invest/calculators/index
    .html

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Print Resources
  • Teach and Retire Rich
  • Available through the 403bwise website
  • If you want to understand your financial choices
    and take control of your financial future this
    book is a must read.
  • It is basically my presentation, in book form,
    with more examples and more information.

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Parting Words
  • Dont be afraid of investing.
  • Investing is confusing until it isnt.
  • It is not that difficult to gain a basic
    understanding of investing and develop a well
    balanced portfolio.
  • The most important part of investing is doing it
    as early and often as you can.
  • It is never too late to start. And never to late
    to start doing it right.
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