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Title: God and Science


1
God and Science
International Apologetics Conference June 6,
2008 John Oakes PhD
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Thomas Huxley, Darwins bulldog
We are as much the product of blind forces as is
the falling of a stone to earth, or the ebb and
flow of the tides. We have just happened, and
man was made flesh by a series of singularly
beneficial accidents.
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Richard Dawkins
  • In the universe of blind physical forces and
    genetic replication, some people are going to get
    hurt and other people are going to get lucky and
    you wont find any rhyme or reason to it, nor any
    justice. The universe we observe has precisely
    the properties we should expect if there is at
    the bottom, no design, no purpose, no evil and no
    good. Nothing but blind, pitiless indifference.
    DNA neither knows nor cares. DNA just is, and we
    dance to its music.

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Accident or Design? The Anthropic Principle
William Paley
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Roger Bacon 1214-1292
To study nature, use External experience, aided
by instruments, made precise by mathematics.
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  • Basic Assumptions of Science
  • The universe follows a single, unchanging set of
    laws.
  • WHY?
  • The universe can be understood by human beings.
  • WHY? Can evolution explain this?
  • The universe can be described by mathematics.
  • WHY?

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  • Predictions Based on Christian Theology
  • The universe will follow a single, unchanging set
    of laws.
  • The universe will be understandable to human
    beings.
  • The universe will be describable by mathematics.
  • The universe will be designed so that we can
    observe it

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Water
  • Ideal solvent to support life (dissolves ions and
    molecules
  • Right boiling and melting points
  • High specific heat
  • Solid floats on liquid
  • Contracts from 0 to 4 degrees centigrade

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Designed Elements?
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Carbon the Element of life
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The Ozone Layer Is oxygen a designed element?
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No Uranium, no plate tectonics
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DNA
a)
b)
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Protein
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Simplest life form break it down
  • E. coli about 1 trillion bits of information.
  • E. coli have 3000-4000 different proteins.
  • DNA and RNA to make and be made by these
    proteins.
  • Lipids (membrane), Carbohydrates, etc.
  • The simplest living cell is an unimaginably
    complex nano factory

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It is mere rubbish to think at this point of
the origin of life. One might as well think of
the origin of matter.
Charles Darwin
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Science before the 1950s The universe was NOT
created. Hebrews 113 By faith we understand
that the universe was created so that what is
seen has been made from things that are not
visible. Genesis 13 God said Let there be
light, and there was light. The Big Bang 1929
Hubble. The Red Shift The universe is
expanding. 1965 Penzias and Wilson, background
microwave radiation. Physicists now The
universe was created.
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Fine Tuning of the
Universe   Constant A Little Bigger A Little
Smaller   1. Gravitational constant very
short-lived stars no stars 2. Ratio of
electrons to protons no stars or galaxies no
stars or galaxies   3. Strong Nuclear
Force no hydrogen, fusion only hydrogen   4.
Weak Nuclear Force all H2 ? He at big bang no
He at big bang no heavy elements   5.
Electric Force no chemical bonding no chemical
bonding   6. Expansion rate of universe no
galaxies universe collapses quickly 7. Ratio
of matter to antimatter too much radiation for
life not enough matter for galaxies to
form   and many more.
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The Right Kind of Galaxy
Spiral
Irregular
Eliptical
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The Right Kind of Star The Goldilocks Star
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The Right Kind of Planet
Right distance Rocky planet with plenty of
oxygen and water Thin, light planetary
crust Huge moon for stable planetary rotation
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Conclusion Since the creation of the world
Gods invisible qualitieshis eternal power and
divine naturehave been clearly seen, being
understood from what has been made, so that men
are without excuse. Romans 120 Did we just
happen?
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Part II Science and the Bible Delos B.
McKown Christianity is scientifically
unsupported and probably insupportable,
philosophically suspect at best and disreputable
at worst, and historically fraudulent.
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Galileo Galilei 1564-1642
The Bible was written to tell us how to go to
heaven, not how the heavens go
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Papyrus Ebers
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  • The Ebers Papyrus
  • To prevent hair from turning gray, anoint it
    with the blood of a calf which has been boiled in
    oil or with the fat of a rattlesnake.
  • A mixture of six fats, namely those of the
    horse, the hippopotamus, the crocodile, the cat,
    the snake and the ibex.... to prevent hair loss.

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Drugs of Choice in Papyrus Ebers
  • Lizards blood
  • Swines teeth
  • Putrid meat
  • Moisture from Pigs ears
  • Excreta from animals including human beings,
    donkeys, antelope, dogs, cats and flies

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I will not bring on you any of these
diseases... Exodus 1526 The pig... is
unclean for you...those that walk on their
paws...the weasel, the rat...are unclean for
you. Leviticus 11
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The sting of a hornet is healed by the
house-fly, crushed and applied to the wound.
The gnat, feeble creature, taking in food but
never secreting it is a specific against the
poison of the viper. An ancient Hebrew medical
manuscript.
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Whoever touches the dead body of anyone will be
unclean for seven days. He must purify himself
with the water on the third and seventh
day...take some hyssop, dip it in the water and
sprinkle the tent and furnishings and the people
who were there. Numbers 19
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Semelweiss
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Vienna, 1847
  • In maternity wards one out of every six women
    dies.
  • Obstetricians ascribe deaths to constipation,
    fear and poisonous air.

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Death Rate falls from 18 to 0.5
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Thymol
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Leviticus 1346
As long as he has the infection he remains
unclean. He must live alone he must live outside
the camp. Quarantine for infectious disease
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LEPROSY
  • Killed millions of people in Europe and around
    the world for thousands of years.
  • Fear of all other diseases taken together can
    hardly be compared to the terror spread by
    leprosy.
  • Dr. George Rosen

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Leprosy
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MEDICAL COMMUNITY HAD NO ANSWERS
They taught that it was brought on by eating
hot food, pepper, garlic and the meat of diseased
hogs. Other physicians said it was caused by a
malign conjunction of the planets. Leviticus
1346 As long as he has the infection he remains
unclean. He must live alone he must live
outside the camp.
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The life is in the blood
Leviticus 1714 the life of every creature
is in its blood. That is why I have said to the
Israelites, You must not eat the blood of any
creature, because the life of every creature is
its blood anyone who eats it must be cut off.
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Bloodletting The most common medical practice
in 1700s and 1800s
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Bloodletting Instruments from 1800s
1693).                                       G
eorge Tiemann Co. American armamentarium
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For the generations to come, every male among
you who is eight days old must be
circumcised... Genesis 1712 Vitamin
K Prothrombrin a clotting protein.
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Clotting Protein Peaks on Day Eight
Available Prothrombin
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Abrahams Experiment
Day Circumcised Number of Hebrew Boys Number of Deaths
1 823 4
3 759 6
5 693 8
7 855 3
9 770 2
11 698 4
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He spreads out the northern skies over empty
space He suspends the earth over nothing Job
268 The earth is on the back of four elephants
standing on top of a turtle, encircled by a
serpent, swimming in a sea of milk The Sutras
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Buddhist Cosmology
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Egyptian Creation Myth
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Scientific errors in Quran
  • 2314Creation from the clot of blood
  • Then we made the sperm into a clot of congealed
    blood then from that clot we made a lump and we
    made out of that lump bones and clothed the bones
    with flesh.
  • 1886Traveling west
  • till, when he reached the setting-place of the
    sun, he found it setting in a muddy spring.

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Scientific errors in Quran
  • 2133Sun and stars orbit the earth
  • 349, 5244Piece of sky falls and kills someone
  • 364, 2314 Man deposits child into the mother

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The flood was produced by a union of the male
waters, which are above the firmament, and the
female waters issuing from the earth. The upper
waters rushed through the space left when God
removed two stars out of the constellation
Pleaides. Afterward, to put a stop to the flood,
God had to transfer two stars from the
constellation of the Bear to the constellation of
the Pleaides. That is why the Bear runs after
the Pleaides. She wants her children back, but
they will be restored to her only in the future
world. A Jewish manuscript of New Testament
times. The water cycle... Job 3627, Amos
58 He suspends the earth on nothing. Job 267
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Topics not touched on 1. The origin of the
universe. 2. The origin of life. 3. The
origin of species especially of humans. 4.
The age of the earth. www.evidenceforchristiani
ty.org
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