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Title: Testing the Creation Model of the LDS Church


1
Testing the Creation Model of the LDS Church
  • Richard Deem
  • Evidence for God from Science
  • www.GodAndScience.org

2
Why Test Religious Claims?
?
  • Determine the truth
  • Adopt a valid worldview
  • Lead others to develop a valid worldview

3
Is It Fair to Test LDS Theology?
  • According to Joseph Smith, all Christianity had
    become apostate and was an abomination in the
    sight of God
  • Current official teaching of the LDS church
    teaches that error crept into Church doctrine
    and that the true Church was destroyed
  • Christians have the right and responsibility to
    defend the indestructible Church that Jesus
    Christ established in the first century

4
Overview of LDS Theology
  • Standard works
  • Bible (Old and New Testament)
  • Book of Mormon
  • Doctrine and Covenants
  • Pearl of Great Price
  • Some or all of previous revelation may be
    superceded by the current prophet
  • This presentation uses the official LDS teaching
    book Gospel Principles

5
Overview of the LDS Creation Model
  • Heavens and the earth were created by a council
    of gods
  • The God of this world (Elohim) was once a man who
    worked his way to godhead
  • Gods are created
  • Celestial procreation produces spirit children
  • Spirit children can progress to godhead
  • Matter is eternal

6
The LDS Creation Model
  • Heavens and the earth were created by a council
    of gods
  • the Council of the Eternal God of all other
    gods before this world was (DC 12132)
  • The Gods plan the creation of the earth and all
    life thereon (PoGPAbraham 4Heading)
  • And they went down at the beginning, and they,
    that is the Gods, organized and formed the
    heavens and the earth. (PoGPAbraham 41)

7
The LDS Creation Model
  • The God of this world (Elohim) was once a man who
    worked his way to godhead
  • The Father has a body of flesh and bones as
    tangible as mans (DC 13022)
  • This is the way our Heavenly Father became God.
    Joseph Smith taught It is the first principle
    of the Gospel to know for a certainty the
    character of God. . . . He was once a man like
    us . . . God himself, the Father of us all,
    dwelt on an earth, the same as Jesus Christ
    himself did (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph
    Smith, pp. 345-46). (Gospel Principles, 1997.
    Chapter 47 EXALTATION).

8
The LDS Creation Model
  • Obedient humans can become gods
  • If we prove faithful to the Lord, we will live
    in the highest degree of the celestial kingdom of
    heaven. We will become exalted, just like our
    Heavenly FatherThese are some of the
    blessings given to exalted people2. They will
    become gods.(Gospel Principles, 1997. Chapter 47
    EXALTATION.
  • Celestial marriage and a continuation of the
    family unit enable men to become gods (DC
    Section 132Heading)

9
The LDS Creation Model
  • Gods are created through celestial procreation
  • our Heavenly Father called a Grand Council to
    present his plan for our progression (see
    Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, pp. 348,
    349, 365). We learned that if we followed his
    plan, we would become like him. We would have a
    resurrected body we would have all power in
    heaven and on earth we would become heavenly
    parents and have spirit children just as he does
    (see DC 13219-20).
  • Gospel Principles, Chapter 2, Our Heavenly
    Family

10
The LDS Creation Model
  • Matter is eternal
  • Since gods are created, matter must be eternal
  • Problems
  • Scientists agree that matter (along with energy,
    space and time) was created at the Big Bang
  • How did matter create the first god?

11
E-mail From an LDS Member
  • Cosmology today postulates an initial explosion
    (the Big Bang) from which our universe has
    emerged the beginning for energy and all the
    associated laws of physics, chemistry, et al.
    This is great for Christianity. It certainly
    appears that science supports the Biblical in
    the beginning which is interpreted to define a
    creation of the Heavens and the Earth out of
    nothing I think it is safe to say that Mormons
    don't believe in the Big Bang.

12
Book of Mormon Overview
  • Another testament of Jesus Christ
  • Recorded by the prophet Mormon
  • Claims to be an account of two great
    civilizations in the Americas
  • Jaredites (from the scattering at the Tower of
    Babel)
  • Nephites and the Lamanites (from Jerusalem in 600
    B.C.)

13
Book of Mormon Errors
  • Archeology
  • Metals
  • Weapons
  • Agriculture
  • Textiles
  • Animals
  • Calendars
  • Religion
  • Racial characteristics
  • Genetics

14
Smithsonian Institution Letter
15
Archeology
  • Metals (in coins, weapons, and buildings)
  • Weapons of war (chariots, scimitars, swords,
    breastplates)
  • Crops (wheat and barley)
  • Specialized fabrics (linen and silk)
  • Animals (donkey, cattle, oxen, horse, pig, and
    elephants)
  • Calendar

16
Metals in the Book of Mormon
  • Book of Mormon claims that iron, steel, brass,
    copper, silver and gold found in Americas before
    Christ
  • These metals were said to be found in coins,
    weapons, and buildings

17
Metal Use in the Americas
  • Metallurgy did not occur until at least 900 A.D.
  • Stone weapons in use at time Spanish
    conquistadors arrived
  • Depictions of metals/metal work in art did not
    appear until 1000 A.D.

18
Weapons in the Book of Mormon
  • Book of Mormon claims that chariots were used in
    Americas before Christ
  • Book of Mormon describes use of scimitars
    (spelled cimiter in Book of Mormon), steel
    swords and brass breastplates

19
Weapons in the Americas
  • No chariots or even wheeled vehicles used
  • No metal weapons prior to 1000 A.D.
  • Millions died in battle at Hill Cumorah no
    weapons or remains found

20
Agriculture in the Book of Mormon
  • The Book of Mormon describes the growing of crops
    that require the use of plows and specialized
    farming techniques
  • Book of Mormon crops included wheat and barley

21
Agriculture in the Americas
  • Many ancient American Cultures were
    hunter-gatherers
  • No evidence of plows (as actual artifacts or in
    artwork)
  • No evidence of either wheat or barley
  • Crops know to be grown by ancient Americans, such
    as chocolate, lima beans, squash, potatoes, and
    tomatoes are not mentioned in the Book of Mormon

22
Textiles in the Book of Mormon
  • The Book of Mormon describes the use of linen and
    silk
  • No evidence for the growing of flax (used to make
    linen) has been found in pre-Columbian sites
  • No evidence of silkworms or the technology
    required to produce silk material has been found
  • No linen or silk items have been found

23
Textiles in the Americas
  • Textiles have been found dating from as early as
    5800 B.C.
  • Elaborate weaving and patterns found in textiles
    dating from 600 B.C. (date Nephites and Lamanites
    were said to have sailed to the Americas)

24
Animals in the Book of Mormon
  • The Book of Mormon claims that the following Old
    World animals were found in ancient America
  • Donkeys
  • Cattle
  • Oxen
  • Horses
  • Pigs
  • Elephants

25
Animals in the Americas
  • Mammoths, mastodons, and horses had disappeared
    from the American continents 10,000 years ago
  • Donkeys, cattle, oxen, horses, and pigs were
    introduced on the continent by the Spanish after
    1492

26
Calendars in the Book of Mormon
  • The Book of Mormon claims that ancient Americans
    practiced a seven day week
  • This week was said to have consisted of six days
    of work and a seventh day of rest

27
Calendars in the Americas
  • 260-day cycle divided into 13 months of twenty
    days (used by most of the ancient Mesoamericans)
  • 365-day cycle, divided into 18 months of twenty
    days. The five leftover days were called the
    resting, or sleep of the year.
  • 3276-day cycle divided into four quadrants of 819
    days (the product of 7 x 9 x 13, all sacred
    numbers to the Maya).
  • Long count calendar counted days from the
    creation of the world (said to be on August 11,
    3114 B.C.)

28
Religion in the Book of Mormon
  • The Book of Mormon claims that ancient Americans
    were monotheistic and worshipped the God of the
    Hebrews

29
Religion in the Americas
  • Religion in the Americas included human
    sacrifice, including child sacrifice

30
Racial Characteristics of Ancient Americans
  • All native peoples of the Americas are
    dark-skinned
  • Depictions of native peoples in the period
    artwork shows dark-skinned peoples
  • No evidence for the white, and exceedingly fair
    and delightsome. Nephites

31
Genetics in the Book of Mormon
  • Book of Mormon claims
  • DNA studies
  • LDS objections based on science
  • LDS objections based upon textual interpretation

32
Book of Mormon Claims
  • Native Americans are descended from Hebrews
  • ...Written to the Lamanites, who are a remnant
    of the house of Israel.. (Title Page 12)
  • ...the Lamanites, and they are the principal
    ancestors of the American Indians (Introduction
    Preface1-2)
  • ...I speak unto you Lamanites, ye remnant of
    the house of Israel and these are the words
    which I speak Know ye that ye are of the house
    of Israel. (Mormon 71-2)
  • Which is my word to the Gentile, that soon it
    may go to the Jew, of whom the Lamanites are a
    remnant... (DC Section 1927)

33
DNA Studies on Native American Origins
  • Y-chromosome
  • mtDNA (mitochondrial DNA)
  • Polymorphic Alu insertions
  • Intestinal microbial flora
  • Domesticated animals

34
Y-Chromosome Studies
  • SNP in DYS199 locus present in all 5 Native
    American populations and in Siberian Chukchi
    populations
  • Examination of more than 2,500 Y-chromosomes of
    wide geographic origin indicated this
    polymorphism is found only in Native American and
    Asian populations (not found in African,
    Australoid, or Caucasian European populations)

35
Y-Chromosome Studies
  • Haplotype M3 present in 66 of NA males found in
    Chukotka peninsula in Siberia
  • Haplotype M45 present in 25 of NA males found in
    Lower Amur River and Sea of Okhotsk regions of
    eastern Siberia
  • Haplotype RPS4Y-T present in 5 of NA males found
    in the Lower Amur River/Sea of Okhotsk region of
    Siberia

36
Y-Chromosome Studies
  • Polymorphisms of Native American populations show
    a gradient of polymorphisms extending from North
    to South America
  • Such a gradient is expected from an Asian
    migration through the Bering Strait
  • Book of Mormon suggests that a genetic gradient
    should extend in the opposite direction

37
Mitochondrial DNA
  • Four Native American haplotypes (A-D) found in
    50 of native Mongolians
  • NA HVS-1 haplotype found in 50-70 of aboriginal
    Siberians
  • Genetic studies set the date for the origination
    of these haplotypes at 20,000 - 30,000 years ago

38
Polymorphic Alu Insertions
  • Alu family of retroposons is present at an
    extremely large copy numbers within the
    chromosomes of the human genome (500,000
    copies/genome equivalent)
  • Five polymorphic Alu insertions were examined
    from 24 Native American populations
  • The comparison showed a close similarity between
    Chinese and Native American populations

39
Intestinal Microbial Flora
  • Helicobacter pylori, a chronic gastric pathogen
    of human beings, can be found in virtually every
    human population group
  • H. pylori strains can be genetically divided into
    seven populations that exhibit distinct
    geographical distributions
  • Native Americans have the same strain found in
    East Asians

40
Domesticated Animals
  • Native Americans had domesticated dogs in their
    settlements
  • All of these dogs were wiped out or interbred
    with European dogs
  • Remains from pre-Columbian NA dogs
    (Alaska,Mexico, Peru, and Bolivia) have been
    genetically examined
  • mtDNA sequences show that Native American dogs
    originated from Asian dogs who accompanied late
    Pleistocene humans across the Bering Strait

41
LDS Objections to the Genetic Studies
  • Founder effect
  • If one individual harbors a significant mutation
    compared to the population he came from, the
    genetics would be skewed toward that one
    individual.
  • Genetic drift
  • Results in isolated populations as selective
    breeding occurs, skewing the genetics in a
    particular direction

42
LDS Objections Founder Effect
  • All males descended from Lehi and all females
    descended from Ishmael
  • Requires mutations of at least
  • 6 Y-chromosome polymorphisms
  • 4 mtDNA haplotypes
  • 5 polymorphic Alu insertions
  • Helicobacter pylori
  • Canine mtDNA haplotypes
  • All mutations must occur simultaneously and must
    result in Asian haplotypes

43
LDS Objections Genetic Drift
  • Could genetic drift over 2,600 years account for
    the loss of Jewish haplotypes in Native
    Americans?
  • 700 year old remains show that Native American
    mtDNA haplotypes have not changed significantly
  • The African Lemba tribe claims to have Jewish
    roots
  • More than 50 of Lemba Y chromosomes carry
    haplotypes that are common among Jewish
    populations but absent in their African neighbors

44
Other People Groups Are Primary Ancestors of
Native Americans
  • Nephites Same Hebrew origins
  • Mulekites (book of Omni) also of Hebrew origins
  • Jaredites from the Tower of Babel. All except
    one man were killed in a devastating war

45
Lamanites Were a Small Group in Central America
  • Doctrine and Covenants
  • section 28 says that the city of Zion will be
    built on the borders by the Lamanites.
  • indicate that Mormon leaders were to preach to
    the Lamanites
  • relates the Lamanites to the Indian tribes in
    the West
  • Gospel Principles
  • teaches that The Lamanites Will Become a Great
    People

46
LDS Cosmology
  • Matter is eternal
  • Habitable planets exist at the center of our
    galaxy

47
Matter is eternal
A large body of astrophysical observations now
clearly points to a beginning for our universe
about 15 billion years ago... There is, in fact,
no evidence that any of the particles of matter
with which we are now familiar existed before
this great event. Louis J. Clavelli, Ph.D.,
Professor of Physics, University of Alabama
One of the major hypotheses on which modern
cosmology is based is that the Universe
originated in an explosion called the Big Bang,
in which all energy (and matter) that exists
today was created. Eric S Rowland, UC Santa Cruz
  • Since gods are created, matter must be eternal
  • Scientists agree that matter (along with energy,
    space and time) was created at the Big Bang

48
Planet Kolob is the Throne of God
  • Pearl of Great Price
  • And thus there shall be the reckoning of the time
    of one planet above another, until thou come nigh
    unto Kolob, which Kolob is after the reckoning of
    the Lord's time which Kolob is set nigh unto the
    throne of God, to govern all those planets which
    belong to the same order as that upon which thou
    standest. (PoGPAbraham 39)

49
Kolob is at the Center of the Galaxy
  • Pearl of Great Price
  • Kolob is the throne of God (where God supposedly
    lives)
  • Kolob governs other planets, including earth
  • Therefore, Kolob must be at the center of our
    galaxy, since this is the only position from
    which it could govern the movement of the earth,
    Sun, and moon.

50
Light Borrowed From Kolob
  • Pearl of Great Price
  • Fig. 5. Is called in Egyptian Enish-go-on-dosh
    this is one of the governing planets also, and is
    said by the Egyptians to be the Sun, and to
    borrow its light from Kolob through the medium of
    Kae-e-vanrash, which is the grand Key, or, in
    other words, the governing power, which governs
    fifteen other fixed planets or stars, as also
    Floeese or the Moon, the Earth and the Sun in
    their annual revolutions. This planet receives
    its power through the medium of Kli-flos-is-es,
    or Hah-ko-kau-beam, the stars represented by
    numbers 22 and 23, receiving light from the
    revolutions of Kolob. (PoGPFacsimile 25)

51
Light Produced by Fusion, Not Borrowed From Kolob
  • Pearl of Great Price
  • The Sun borrows its light from Kolob
  • Other stars receive their power through the
    revolutions of Kolob.
  • Science
  • Sun produces light through nuclear fusion
  • Other stars generate power through nuclear fusion

52
Kolob Revolves Once Every 1,000 Years
  • Pearl of Great Price
  • And the Lord said unto me These are the
    governing ones and the name of the great one is
    Kolob, because it is near unto me, for I am the
    Lord thy God that Kolob was after the manner of
    the Lord, according to its times and seasons in
    the revolutions thereof that one revolution was
    a day unto the Lord, after his manner of
    reckoning, it being one thousand years according
    to the time appointed unto that whereon thou
    standest. This is the reckoning of the Lord's
    time, according to the reckoning of Kolob.
    (PoGPAbraham 33-4)

53
Scientific Problems With Kolob
  • Scientific Problems
  • Kolobs 1000 year rotation period would make it
    extremely temperature variable.
  • The side that remained in darkness for 500 years
    would be extremely cold (near absolute zero)
  • The side in the light for 500 years would become
    very hot (likely several hundred degrees minimum)

54
Scientific Problems With Kolob
  • Scientific Problems
  • Since Kolob governs the movements of the Earth
    the Moon, and the Sun it must reside at the
    center of our galaxy
  • Kolob would be subjected to extremely high levels
    of radiation from our galaxys central black hole
  • The chance of collision with other stellar
    systems would be very high at this location in
    our galaxy

55
Summary of Scientific Problems
  • According to official LDS doctrine
  • Gods are created and matter is eternal
  • God lives on an uninhabitable planet called Kolob
  • Ancient Americans used metals in coins, buildings
    and weapons
  • Ancients Americans grew plow agriculture crops,
    such as wheat and barley

56
Summary of Scientific Problems
  • According to official LDS doctrine
  • Ancients Americans made materials from linen and
    silk
  • Ancient Americans raised donkeys, cattle, oxen,
    horses, pigs, and elephants
  • Ancient Americans used a calendar consisting of a
    seven day week
  • Ancient Americans were descendants of Hebrews

57
Conclusions
  • LDS standard works and official theology
    contain numerous scientific errors in their
    creation model
  • The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints
    is a false religion
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