Title: Abnormal vaginal bleeding Case Quiz When to refer for hysteroscopy
1Abnormal Menstrual Bleeding - GP perspective.
Lisa Pickles
(GP, Brig Royd, Ripponden)
2Plan for the talk.
- Present local guidelines (2007 Martin De Bono and
Lisa Pickles). - Compare with NICE guidelines.
- Referring to menorrhagia
- irregular bleeding
- postmenopausal bleeding
- (PCB and amenorrhoea looked at separately)
3Local Guidance/pathway.
- Abnormal Uterine Bleeding.
- on www.pennine-gp-training.co.uk (go
- to Clinical, then womens health)
- Or, is on CHT website (CK healthcare
- Trust) under pathways, gynae.
4ABNORMAL UTERINE BLEEDING
1/ Menorrhagia
Irregular Bleeding
2/
3/
Postmenopausal Bleeding
2a lt40years old
2b gt40 years old
5ABNORMAL UTERINE BLEEDING
1/ Menorrhagia
Irregular Bleeding
2/
3/
Postmenopausal Bleeding
2a lt40years old
2b gt40 years old
61/ Menorrhagia- summary of guidelines.
Regular, heavy bleeds with normal examination, no
need for hysteroscopy.
Treatment options - TXA, MFA, COC
- Mirena
- Depo provera
Refer GYNAECOLOGY OPD if all options fail (to
discuss surgical management)
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9Compare with NICE guidelines for Heavy Menstrual
Bleeding
10The differences Local v. NICE
- NICE -1st IUS
- -2nd TXA, MFA or COC (choice?).
- -3rd Depo Provera or norethisterone.
- Local - 1st and 2nd choices as above all
- offered initially.
- - then Depo Provera (not
- norethisterone).
-
11The differences, continued
- NICE examine if structural or histological
abnormality possible. - (? Scan. Fibroids lt3cm can be treated medically).
- Local examine all patients.
12The differences, continued.
- NICE consider endometrial biopsy if IMB or, in
women gt 45, treatment failure. - Local intermenstrual bleeding is dealt with
separately by Irregular Bleeding guidelines. - (IMB intermenstrual bleeding).
13Remember FBC.
14PCT evidence based guidelines for hysterectomy
referral.
- Concept of referring patient to consider a
procedure as opposed to advice regarding a
clinical condition. - Primary care to ensure other therapies have been
tried as detailed. - ? Patient choice and preference?
- Available on the PCT Link . Seems to fit with
NICE guidelines.
15PCT evidence based guidelines, contd
- Before referring for hysterectomy, patient to
have tried IUS - - TXA, MFA, COC, depo (if
- indicated).
- And, to have undergone an endometrial ablation
procedure (which has failed).
16PCT evidence based guidelines, contd
- Refer using referral form.
17Surgical Treatments for Menorrhagia.
Normal uterus /- small fibroids lt3cm diameter
Other treatments failed. No desire to retain
uterus.
Fibroids gt3cm diameter.
Normal uterus /- small fibroids lt3cm diameter.
Hysterectomy (vaginal if poss.)
Endometrial ablation.
Treat the Fibroid
Myomectomy
Uterine artery embolisation
18Case History.
- A 45 year old patient comes to see you with
regular heavy menstrual bleeding. Normal
examination and FBC. What do you offer?
19IUS/ oral TXA, MFA, COC or2nd line, Depo
Provera.
20She is reluctant to consider an
intrauterine method and has a past history of
focal migraine (gt 5 years ago is UKMEC 3 FSRH).
Questioning reveals longstanding
dysmenorrhoea.What might be your choice?
21Mefenamic acid.
22A look at her PMH reveals asthma and she
admits that she became wheezy after OTC ibuprofen
a few years ago, which she has avoided since.
What do you offer now?
23Tranexamic acid.
24Disappointingly, she tries TXA for 3 months,
but it does not help. Now what do you do?
25Show her an IUS and offer explanation
regarding insertion technique.
26Whilst this often helps to reassure
patients, your patient still declines an IUS.
What factors should you consider before advising
Depo Provera?
27Check for osteoporosis risk factors (in view
of bone mineral density concerns), due to her
perimenopausal age.
28She is thin, a smoker (20/day despite
advice), does no weight bearing exercise and has
taken several courses of steroids over the years
for her asthma.You decide not to start
depo.What next?
29Refer to gynae clinic to consider an
endometrial ablative procedure.
302 years later, her HMB recurs. What do you do
now?
31Refer for hysterectomy using referral form.
32ABNORMAL UTERINE BLEEDING
1/ Menorrhagia
Irregular Bleeding
2/
3/
Postmenopausal Bleeding
2a lt40years old
2b gt40 years old
332/ Irregular Bleeding summary of guidelines.
2a/ lt40years UNLIKELY to need hysteroscopy. Cause
s Contraception? Infection?
Cervix? PCOS?
2b/ gt 40years MAY need hysteroscopy(expanded on
next slide) Causes Malignancy? Perimenopause? H
RT?
342b/ gt 40years old (irregular bleeding)
Work out SIGNIFICANCE of bleeding.
Significant IMB Continual spotting No
recognisable cycle
Not significant
No IMB Period-like flow Recognisable periods,
even if irregular, short or long cycle.
Hysteroscopy
Observe then? hysteroscopy
35ABNORMAL UTERINE BLEEDING
1/ Menorrhagia
Irregular Bleeding
2/
3/
Postmenopausal Bleeding
2a lt40years old
2b gt40 years old
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38ABNORMAL UTERINE BLEEDING
1/ Menorrhagia
Irregular Bleeding
2/
3/
Postmenopausal Bleeding
2a lt40years old
2b gt40 years old
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41Explanatory notes see full guidelines.
Reference at end.
- 2d/. Options for medical treatment for heavy
bleeding. - - COC (if no CI/non smoker)
- - cyclical progesterones
- (eg. medroxyprogesterone acetate 10mg tds,
dydrogesterone 10mg bd. Note most commonly used
rx is progesterone, but article in FSRH journal
last year suggested that is has partly
oestrogenic properties after being broken down in
fat tissue, consider as similar risk to 20mcg COC
at therapeutic doses. Contraception doses seem
unaffected) - - Mirena esp if menorrhagia also. D/w patient
pre DAPH referral. Issue leaflet. - - ?? HRT. Controversial.
42Risk factors for endometrial carcinoma.
- Remember these
- Obesity
- PCOS
- Diabetes
- Hypertension.
- Infertility/nulliparous
- Tamoxifen
- Early menarche/late menopause.
- FH ca colon/emdometrium
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443/ PMB summary of guidelines
URGENT referral DAPH. ( Direct Access Programmed
Hysteroscopy. May have transvaginal scan for
endometrial thickness. If gt4mm then hysteroscopy).
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46Notes re DAPH for problem bleeding
- 1 referral urgency
- Urgent
- lt 2 weeks post menopausal bleeding
- high suspicion of uterine cancer,
- eg suspicious examination, multiple risk
factors for endometrial Ca with significant
bleeding. - Soon
- Perimenopausal bleeding significant (see
earlier descriptors) - Routine
- 13 week Normal examination
- Perimenopausal, persistent, not significant
bleeding - 2 contraindications to hysteroscopy
- Pregnancy, Recent PID, Cervical pathology (refer
to Colposcopy OPD)
47Answer a/ no action or medical management
b/refer hysteroscopy
c/other (assume normal exam,swabs,smear, preg
test etc unless otherwise stated)
1/. 50 year old. Cycle heavy 5-7/20-35.
48Answer a/ no action or medical management
b/refer hysteroscopy
c/other (assume normal exam,swabs,smear, preg
test etc unless otherwise stated)
2/. 35 year old with menorrhagia (no IMB). Not
responded to medical management including mirena
coil.
49Abnormal vaginal bleedingCase QuizWhen to refer
for hysteroscopy
50Answer a/ no action or medical management
b/refer hysteroscopy
c/other (assume normal exam,swabs,smear, preg
test etc unless otherwise stated)
3/. 30year old with heavy periods and mid
cycle bleeding
51Answer a/ no action or medical management
b/refer hysteroscopy
c/other (assume normal exam,swabs,smear, preg
test etc unless otherwise stated)
4/. 45 year old.Regular cycle 5/28. LMP started
after 21 day cycle, now spotting or brownish
loss for 5 weeks since then.
52Answer a/ no action or medical management
b/refer hysteroscopy
c/other (assume normal exam,swabs,smear, preg
test etc unless otherwise stated)
5/. 41 year old. Cycle regular 6/26-30 with
spotting in between for past 6/12.
53Answer a/ no action or medical management
b/refer hysteroscopy
c/other (assume normal exam,swabs,smear, preg
test etc unless otherwise stated)
6/. 49 year old. Cycle 5-7/28-56 for past year.
LMP-flooding for 2 days, normal loss for 3 days,
then stopped
54Answer a/ no action or medical management
b/refer hysteroscopy
c/other (assume normal exam,swabs,smear, preg
test etc unless otherwise stated)
7/. 46 year old.Cycle 5-7/20-35. LMP started
after 28 day cycle, flooding for 2 days and now
spotting, brown loss , which has continued for 2
weeks.
55Answer a/ no action or medical management
b/refer hysteroscopy
c/other (assume normal exam,swabs,smear, preg
test etc unless otherwise stated)
8/. 55 year old with vaginal dryness. LMP 5 years
ago. Atrophia on examination. Reports brown/red
streaky loss for 3 months on and off.
56Answer a/ no action or medical management
b/refer hysteroscopy
c/other (assume normal exam,swabs,smear, preg
test etc unless otherwise stated)
9/. 52 year old. LMP 14 months ago. Reports a
period for 5 days.
57GREY AREAS
Assume normal exam, swabs, smear, preg test etc
unless stated
1/ 37 year old, obese, diabetic, PCOS, with IMB.
58GREY AREAS
Assume normal exam, swabs, smear, preg test etc
unless stated
2/ 52 year old. Had period 9/04. 2/06. Seen
6/06 when above symptoms reported.
59GREY AREAS
Assume normal exam, swabs, smear, preg test etc
unless stated
3/ 84 year old with vaginal dryness, LMP 25 years
ago. OE/ atrophia. Reports brown/red loss on and
off for 3 months.
60GREY AREAS
Assume normal exam, swabs, smear, preg test etc
unless stated
4/ 41 year old. Regular menorrhagia. Hb9.1
(microcytic).
61Comments
1/ Place of ultrasound?
2/ progesterones ? In menorrhagia.
? In irregular bleeding.
62Comments contd
3/ Anaemia ? Refer or not.
4/ Adnexal mass irregular bleeding
-?urgent hysteroscopy -? 2 week gynae cancer
referral
63Summary/key messages
Regular menorrhagia does not usually need
hysteroscopy.
In over 40s, think about SIGNIFICANCE of
irregular bleeding significant IMB, not
recognisable as period (refer) not significant
No IMB, period-like flow (may not
need referral).
PMB needs urgent DAPH (may have US scan)
64?? QUESTIONS??
65References.
- Abnormal Uterine Bleeding, local
pathway/guidelines 2007. www.pennine-vts-co.uk - NICE guideline 44 Heavy Menstrual Bleeding
January 2007. www.nice.org.uk - Calderdale PCT the Link via GP email. Evidence
based referral for hysterectomy. - Faculty of Sexual and Reproductive Healthcare
(for UKMEC, contraception gt 40 years etc).
www.ffprhc.org.uk
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