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Title: Local Government Public Sector Internal Audit An Outsiders View


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Local Government / Public Sector Internal Audit
An Outsiders View
  • Presented by
  • Mark Robinson Business Manager
  • Jamie Houlders Business Director
  • Hays Accountancy Personnel
  • Public and Not for Profit Sector

2
Agenda
  • The 3 Ws
  • Audience Analysis
  • How has internal audit changed?
  • Local Government characteristics
  • The Market size / qualifications / scope
  • Internal Audit opinions and profile

3
Agenda
  • Permanent recruitment
  • Temporary recruitment
  • Mutual relationships
  • Self help
  • Review
  • Questions

4
Who are we?
  • Mark Robinson
  • 7 years recruitment experience with Hays
  • Over 3 years permanent public sector recruitment
    in the East Midlands
  • 6 years local government experience
  • Jamie Houlders
  • 7 years recruitment experience with Hays
  • Over 2 years interim public sector recruitment in
    the East Midlands
  • 6 years local government experience

5
Where are we from?
  • Hays Personnel Services is a division of Hays plc
  • Hays Accountancy Personnel - Public Sector was
    established over 10 years ago
  • Hays Accountancy Personnel - Public Sector
    operates from regional hubs
  • East Midlands 3 dedicated consultants
    West Midlands 9 dedicated consultants

    Northants/Bedford 3 dedicated consultants

6
Why are we here?
  • Free lunch
  • Richard Bonehams persistence
  • The chance to widen the market knowledge of our
    clients
  • To stimulate a more effective working
    relationship through increased understanding of
    the issues that the Internal Audit sector is
    facing

7
Audience Analysis
  • Area of Public Sector
  • Experience in internal audit
  • Qualification
  • Length of time with current employer
  • How far do you travel to work

8
How has internal audit changed?
  • 10 years ago
  • Systems based
  • Fraud prevention
  • Traditional
  • Failsafe before external audit
  • Current
  • Computer audit
  • Remote systems audit
  • Operational support
  • Risk management
  • Value adding
  • Evolving
  • Dynamic

9
Local Government characteristics
  • Wide mix of professions within each organisation
  • Long term employees
  • Risk averse individuals
  • Closely linked network with many regional working
    groups
  • Limited market knowledge outside Local Government
    and even within the sector

10
The Market - Size
  • Reducing market due to consortia and partnership
    working
  • Flatter structures due to the inability to
    attract qualified candidates
  • More temporary roles due to recruitment
    difficulties and under resourced teams
  • 2.1m increase in Public Sector workers in the
    last 5 years

11
The Market - Qualifications
  • Low numbers of CIPFA qualified accountants (ie 8
    in the last 12 months in the whole of the East
    Midlands / Northants / Beds area
  • CIMA will soon be most prevalent qualification in
    the Public Sector
  • Now over 6000 IIA members in the UK
  • Consortia more likely to provide IIA training
  • Eventually Local Government may have very few
    qualified accountants working in internal audit
  • Adverts now asking for either IIA or CCAB

12
The Market Scope
  • Long term career path to Director of Resources
    seems less common
  • Will IIA be seen as a suitable qualification at
    Director level?
  • Less audit positions at senior level as the
    number of providers in the Public Sector
    decreases

13
IA the Directors view
  • Recent study by Deloitte and Touche in
    conjunction with the IIA offered opinions on the
    different value received/offered by the internal
    audit function
  • Internal audit function has improved markedly
    over the last 3 years
  • The key areas of value are the assurance of
    internal controls and provision of risk
    assessment for the organisation rather than the
    provision of consultancy services

14
IA The Auditors View
  • Internal control adherence and risk assessment
    are the main value services
  • Consultancy is another area where internal audit
    can add value
  • There are no performance measurement criteria for
    internal audit functions

15
IA - Profile
  • Internal Auditors are not good at selling
    themselves to their own organisation
  • Without highlighting areas of value added work,
    extra resources are unlikely to be given
  • In the NHS, risk management is being separated
    out from internal audit (losing high profile
    area)
  • Why should an internal client who has experienced
    a traditional systems audit over 10 years then
    accept the same person as a consultant? Possible
    training issue?

16
Permanent Recruitment
  • Very limited candidate market at all levels, low
    numbers of studiers currently
  • Salary scales are similar with the exception of
    the Audit Commission - higher salaries and lease
    cars
  • Most people in Local Government work within a 15
    mile radius of their employer. Movement between
    authorities is therefore limited unless it is a
    role closer to home or a relocation (external
    issues are house prices and schooling)

17
Permanent Recruitment The Market (East Midlands)
  • Only 1 local authority qualified level position
    in over 2 years not filled
  • 4 senior positions with the Audit Commission this
    year (one specified qualified)
  • Partnerships with external providers now
    established at Consortium Audit and Leicester
    City Council
  • Qualification levels reducing in advertisements

18
Permanent RecruitmentOther Sectors
  • NHS has less in house suppliers, ie only one in
    the East Midlands
  • Practices are recruiting from Public Sector as
    their workload and number of partnerships
    increase
  • Commerce
  • More travel between sites and operational roles
  • Benefits cars, bonuses etc
  • Recruit qualified external auditors, then groom
    them for mainstream line management

19
Temporary RecruitmentThe Market East Midlands
  • 90 of IA jobs registered have been at the
    qualified level
  • 33 temporary IA vacancies successfully filled by
    Hays in last 18 months, of which 30 were Local
    Government based
  • Of these Local Government jobs, 50 were due to
    heavy workload, 40 were providing cover while
    recruiting
  • Average duration 3 to 6 months

20
Temporary RecruitmentThe Candidates East
Midlands
  • Backgrounds
  • 50 have some local Government audit experience
    in last 5 years, but only 10 have 2 years plus
  • 30 are from external audit / practice
  • 20 accountants with no audit experience
  • Qualification
  • 3 in every 10 candidates are not qualified but
    working in qualified level positions

21
Temporary RecruitmentThe Challenges
  • Candidate supply where do they come from?
  • Commitment 40 of roles filled with candidates
    looking for permanent employment
  • Requests forward planning / flexibility over
    timing
  • Open up the market how?
  • Non Local Government Public Sector, Practice,
    Commerce
  • Support at lower level
  • Introduce more people to the market by
    identifying skill set not background

22
How can we help you?
  • Market advice re seasonal peaks
  • Advise when a candidate becomes available
  • Help to promote internal audit as a career option
    and provide a better understanding of the
    function
  • Salary information and advice
  • Sharing ideas discovered in other areas of the
    country through our network

23
How can you help us?
  • Involve us at the planning stage
  • Refer ex colleagues who might want temporary work
  • Advise us of your requirements as far ahead as
    possible to enable us to line a candidate up
  • Provide an insight into the culture and issues
    within your organisation
  • Offer examples of movement / progression within
    your departments

24
Self help
  • Review the way you assess your own skills and
    abilities
  • Highlight areas where internal audit has
    contributed to improved CPA results, added value
    to the organisation
  • Identify the key skills required to be successful
    in internal audit and think about where those
    skills could have been acquired outside of Local
    Government

25
Review
  • The Internal Audit function is undergoing
    substantial change
  • Qualifications
  • Background
  • Skill set
  • Selling audit as a career
  • Self help

26
Questions
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