Title: Week 2'1 Was there a Scottish Political System before devolution
1Week 2.1 Was there a Scottish Political System
before devolution?
2Advantages of Scottish Political System discussion
- Addresses Year Zero tendency
- Challenges homogeneity thesis
- Some factors still apply (e.g. treasury
influence) - Relevant to convergence/ divergence discussions
different legislation may not mean divergence
(since the difference was already there) - New policy style identified before devolution
- Ties in with other discussions on the role of the
centre implementation, governance/ hollowing,
policy networks
3Differing Conceptions
- Literature stressing autonomy
- Kellas (1989) Paterson (1994), Brown et al
(1996) - Literature questioning autonomy
- Mitchell (2003), Keating (2005), Midwinter et al
(1991), Moore and Booth (1989), Rose (1982) - But how different are the approaches?
4Kellas Scottish Political System 5 main parts
- The outline of the components of a Scottish
Political System. - The attempt to define the Scottish Political
System or at least fit it onto existing
conceptions of political systems. This includes
a discussion of the difficulties in viewing
Britain as a nation state. - The argument that differing policy circumstances
require different policy responses. - The Scottish Policy Style
- Qualifications and clarifications.
5(1) Components
- Means to articulate/ aggregate interests
Scottish MPs, Scottish groups, Scottish media - Organisation to respond to interests Scottish
Office - Institutions to execute/ implement decisions in
Scotland Scottish public service Scottish
legal system
6Why do things differently?
- Kellas points to the factors we discussed in week
1 i.e. the Legacy of union (religion,
education, law) and the growth of Scottish Office - The separate legal system as the strongest clue
7Aspects of the legal system
- Scottish legislation in Westminster is
time-consuming so dealt with by Scottish Grant
Committee - Some laws exclusive to Scotland (i.e. public/
private distinction) - Scottish courts have jurisdiction (bar House of
Lords in final civil appeal) - Scottish legal profession has its own
qualifications, traditions and elite recruitment.
So legislation may converge, but treatment still
differs.
8(2) Defining the Scottish Political System
- Fits in with (then) current definitions, such as
- the authoritative allocation of values in a
society (Easton) ) - met by the different
content of Scots Law, religion, education, and
much else in Scottish life) - 2. a collection of recognizable units, which are
characterized by cohesion and covariance
(Deutsch) Scotland is more likely candidate for
cohesion since more see themselves as Scottish
over British and there is a greater history of
common action (e.g. warfare with England)
9(3) Different Policy Conditions Require Different
Policy
- NB importance of perception i.e. of Scots
thinking of themselves as different - History of common action
- Religion different and more significant. Legacy
of democracy in Presbyterianism? Catholic
education provision social attitudes to moral
issues. - Education broader curriculum, 4 year degree,
equality of opportunity, higher participation - Mass communication
- Sport
10Other factors (with uncertain significance)
- Eating and drinking habits affects licensing
laws and health care - Lower population density affects local
government size and provision - Emigration/ migration
- Gaelic/ distinct accent
- Employment in agriculture, manufacturing,
declining industries more unemployment, greater
need for FDI - Significance of oil
- A larger proportion of Scots considering
themselves to be working class. - Stronger trade union affiliation.
- A larger social rented sector in housing.
11A similar discussion can be found in Hutchison
(1996)
- Heavy Scottish demand for state employment since
a larger public sector is required to administer
Scottish needs (dependency on the state?). - Greater reliance on the manufacturing based
nationalised industries i.e. coal, steel, iron,
transport. - A greater importance of agriculture, fishing and
forestry to the economy and Scotlands
contribution to the UK output - Greater proportion in state education (with much
private education in Scotland for expatriates) - Higher unemployment rates and lower income per
capita (meaning more reliance on social security
and the NHS) - Higher public expenditure in Scotland, even
taking a needs assessment into account (legacy of
Goschen formula?)
12(4) The Scottish Policy Style Social Work as
Case Study
- Social Work Act 1968 is a good (only?) example of
policy divergence (despite salient nature) e.g.
probation subsumed within social work. How was
it achieved? - Scottish Office more comprehensive, with one
minister covering the range of issues involved. - Closer contact with affected interests.
- Framed as experiment/ pilot project.
13(5) Qualifications to the Argument (more on web)
- System applies most to law reform, education,
local government - In other areas autonomy ensured through
discretion/ implementation - Or the allocation of British values is acceptable
- Scots are well aware that ultimate executive
power resides in Cabinet - Scottish process only different if hidden from
view - Limited power over economy which is geared
towards SE England. Barnett allows some autonomy - Most legislation considered by Grand Committee is
innocuous
14Summary of the Scottish Political System argument
(Best case?)
- Context of homogeneity thesis
- Legacy of union state as focus for Scottish
interests - Scottish Office introduction and precedent set
- Scottish Political System as qualified autonomy,
dependent on a range of conditions
15Conditions
- The policy area autonomy is most likely in the
policy areas left distinct following the union
(i.e. education, law reform, local government). - Levels of central government attention and
potential for embarrassment that is, much
depends on the ability of Scottish actors to
frame issues as technical or humdrum while
minimising the appearance of policy divergence.
Success ensures limited Whitehall attention and
hence some level of day-to-day autonomy. Much of
this success depends on the role of the Scottish
Office as a conduit for Scottish interests or
its ability to cover a wide range of functions
with a relatively small number of actors. - The discretion involved in implementing policy.
- The Barnett formula and the ability to direct
spending priorities.
16Turning conditions around
- Autonomy is restricted to a small number of
areas. - The Secretary of State for Scotland effectively
needs permission to initiate policy and this is
rarely granted. - Discretion is always apparent in implementation
anyway - The role of the Treasury restricts the
redirection of spending.
17Bulpitt Territory and Power
- Distinction between centre and periphery
- Distinction between high and low politics
- High politics in modern era foreign affairs,
economy, security, law order - If the centre wants a quite life it does not pay
much attention to low politics, leaving this to
the periphery - In these circumstances it is a mistake to equate
potential power with actual power
18Bulpitts hypothesis in action
- 1920 (i.e. after Irish settlement) to 1961 saw a
return to normalcy - UK preoccupation with its position in the world.
No time/ inclination for low politics - Qualified/ conditional autonomy
- Dont get carried away this is neglect of the
periphery, with economic policy geared towards
finance capital in the city
191960s onwards
- Britain's declining status in the world and
economic decline - Greater attention to domestic affairs in part to
control public expenditure (also related to
technocratic belief in modernisation) - Earlier neglect of periphery meant that centre
did not anticipate antipathy in periphery to e.g.
local government reform - Series of reforms by mid 70s shows conditional
nature of periphery autonomy - Health policy in Thatcher era good example
20Paterson The Autonomy of Modern Scotland
- High level of autonomy compared to small
independent states - I.e. Scotland could only expect so much within
global context - Autonomy apparent in some areas (e.g. education)
but not others (e.g. defence) - Discussion from 18th to 20th century depends on
reinterpretation of value of Scottish decisions
2118th century
- The union was a good deal for Scotland.
Parliament less symbolic than in England.
Religious organisation crucial. - British route seen as progressive (like Europe
now?) - Anglicisation only accepted on Scottish terms
(e.g. Court of Session numbers of judges
maintained, jury system welcomed. NB despotic
French)
2219th century
- Unionist nationalism - the union is beneficial
and based on previous victories when faced with
takeover. - Lack of Westminster interference unless invited
- Informal Scottish MP system outside Westminster
- Autonomy of Scottish boards consulting with local
interests - Disharmony more likely within Scotland e.g. on
class or party lines
2320th century
- Continuation of accepted assimilation through
rise of technocracy (rule by experts) - Nationalism defined as acting in nations
interest (through assimilation) as well as Tory
nationalism - Welfare state entered private arena, but (a)
promoted by Scottish middle classes (b) the
doctors, social workers and unemployment benefit
offices are best thought of as part of the local
state, not the centre
24Importance of implementation
- While Scotland did not have its own legislation,
it had its own welfare state bureaucracy. - the autonomy and distinctiveness of any country
rested more on the way that its bureaucracy
interpreted legislation than on the legislation
itself - Lack of divergence not through forced
assimilation but lack of demand for difference
25So, when necessary, and when the Scottish
Secretary could
- construct a Scottish consensus on social
policy, he could get his way, provided that the
direction he was pursuing did not deviate too far
from government policy in London. As a result,
the real power in Scottish politics came to lie
with the Scottish Office bureaucrats, because it
was by means of their committees and networks
that the Scottish Secretary could sound out and
mould Scottish opinion (1994 109).
26Importance of civil society
- Scottish Office as focal point. Civil Society
pressures used in Whitehall negotiations - Professional business links to Whitehall through
sponsored quangos - STUC strategy
27Autonomy in 2 ways
- Up to 1979 (bar Heath period), Scotland got the
government it voted for - Main parties in agreement on broad principles and
legislation (i.e. legislation in Scottish
interests despite ultimate authority in UK) - Political debate surrounding the best means to
implement
28Examples
- Education, which has the most autonomy and a
distinct policy network. Measures taken outside
Scotland could be seen in this light
comprehensive schooling was in Scottish
professional interests, while the more
threatening vocational training measures were
successfully resisted (and one of many which
prompted the Thatcher government to change its
attitude to Scotland). - Housing, in which technical decisions were made
in Scotland to account for different policy
circumstances. - A distinct Scottish social ethic in social work
and juvenile justice. - Differences in health policy, reflecting e.g. the
greater importance of teaching hospitals and
rural conditions. - In other areas, such as social security, most
economic decisions, the nationalised industries,
centralisation was not questioned since attitudes
to these issues were similar and there were
benefits to the economy of scale.
29Critics of the notion of a Scottish Political
System
- Moore and Booth
- If the term system is to have any meaning in
political science it must relate to a distinctive
sovereign and autonomous set of political
institutions governing within defined territorial
boundaries, which clearly Scotland does not
have.
30Rose
- The Scottish Political System as a subsystem
under the unitary state - It remains a unitary state as long as the power
to delegate or revoke delegated power remains in
the hands of the central authority the central
authority determines the policies for which
subordinate units are responsible, and it also
determines the size and boundaries of these
units. The central authority may even abolish a
subordinate jurisdiction. Responsibilities for
carrying out public policy are divided among a
multiplicity of institutions, but authority is
undivided in a unitary state
31Killer blow?
- Yes there is a higher authority, but delegation
is accompanied by neglect - Potential power/ exercise distinction
- Britain/ EU analogy
32Midwinter, Keating, Mitchell (1991)
- Ultimate authority elsewhere
- Spectrum of autonomy according to policy area
- considerable autonomy in some areas (e.g.
education) - In others it maximises its impact by contributing
to UK policy - Is argument that much different?
- They argue (a) similarity because Kellas
imprecise and often argues against own thesis
(b) Kellas does not recognise dual nature of
Scottish Office (not only to represent Scottish
interests but also as arm of central government)
33Midwinter, Keating, Mitchell (1991)
- Responsibilities - Agriculture, Fisheries
Environment Education and Industry Home Affairs
( Scottish Courts Administration) Local
government, Housing, Planning Transport and
Health - Does not equate with powers. Scottish Office not
designed to be a policy initiating body. Does
not do this outwith Whitehall control
34Policy divergence discouraged
- Sits uneasily with (appearance of) Collective
Cabinet Responsibility - Autonomy only when no overlap (i.e. not often)
- Most Civil Service working in Scotland not in
Scottish Office (but most senior) - Scope for difference only if allowed and if
minister is inclined - Scope for difference where policy is technical
but in these cases there may be professional
dominance of the issue on GB basis
35Scottish Office influence
- Scottish Office as Britains largest pressure
group - Scottish Office position strong if interests
united behind it - Lobbying most effective if discreet
- So history of close consultation and consensus
building in Scotland with minimum adverse
publicity - Trade off between access and push for autonomy
36Scottish Office policy initiation
- Not just lobbying. Also participation in
formulation - Sometimes takes lead (especially when equal
weight e.g. fisheries) - But Whitehall departments have more staff and
more senior staff - Policy tends to be left to those with expertise
and seniority - So Scottish Office feeds up to Whitehall in
formulation and has some discretion in
implementation
37Critique of Paterson/ Kellas (1)
- Implementation not restricted to Scotland (NB
Bulpitts periphery includes local government) - Exaggerates lack of central control
- Why assume discretion at Scottish level? E.g.
Local authorities had discretion and often acted
against Scottish Office - E.g. see Hutchison pre-war coordination of
hospital services, modernisation of housing
stock, SSHA, new towns - Scottish Office response was address local
authority parochialism (in its eyes) and
reorganise into larger authorities for a broader
view - Irony greater resources, more effective
challenge (e.g. water, Brussels) - Hutchison Q Should there be a Scottish
Political System? Local authority opposition to
address worries of concentration of power in
Scottish Office?
38(2) Governing party
- The role of the centre or parliamentary
sovereignty was particularly important (and the
Scottish Political System less visible) when the
governing party had a minority in Scotland. - Ties in with imposition of Thatcherism, despite
wets in Scotland - Examples local government reform/ finance (e.g.
poll tax), bus deregulation, council house sales,
regional aid reform, industry closure, school
board reform, HE cuts
39How was Thatcherism dealt with?
- Kellas some victories Ravenscraig, Scottish
Office sponsored regional aid, maintenance of
Barnett. - Brown et al implementation delays to housing,
modified education reform, resistance to water
privatisation, but still - a growing gulf between policy preferences
decided by a Westminster majority and those which
gain public support in Scotland
40(3) Treasury control
- It ignores the tight financial control exerted
by the Treasury within the UK system of
government - Still relevant following devolution
41And finally
- Autonomy only possible when Whitehall convinced
that divergence is insignificant. - Again, continuing relevance - the need to ensure
some degree of uniformity to avoid political
embarrassment is still a factor cited in the
convergence/ divergence literature - But how important is it? Compare to clear red
water in Wales. - Do ministers also have to make their mark and
pursue divergent policies?