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Title: Week 2'1 Was there a Scottish Political System before devolution


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Week 2.1 Was there a Scottish Political System
before devolution?
2
Advantages of Scottish Political System discussion
  • Addresses Year Zero tendency
  • Challenges homogeneity thesis
  • Some factors still apply (e.g. treasury
    influence)
  • Relevant to convergence/ divergence discussions
    different legislation may not mean divergence
    (since the difference was already there)
  • New policy style identified before devolution
  • Ties in with other discussions on the role of the
    centre implementation, governance/ hollowing,
    policy networks

3
Differing Conceptions
  • Literature stressing autonomy
  • Kellas (1989) Paterson (1994), Brown et al
    (1996)
  • Literature questioning autonomy
  • Mitchell (2003), Keating (2005), Midwinter et al
    (1991), Moore and Booth (1989), Rose (1982)
  • But how different are the approaches?

4
Kellas Scottish Political System 5 main parts
  • The outline of the components of a Scottish
    Political System.
  • The attempt to define the Scottish Political
    System or at least fit it onto existing
    conceptions of political systems. This includes
    a discussion of the difficulties in viewing
    Britain as a nation state.
  • The argument that differing policy circumstances
    require different policy responses.
  • The Scottish Policy Style
  • Qualifications and clarifications.

5
(1) Components
  • Means to articulate/ aggregate interests
    Scottish MPs, Scottish groups, Scottish media
  • Organisation to respond to interests Scottish
    Office
  • Institutions to execute/ implement decisions in
    Scotland Scottish public service Scottish
    legal system

6
Why do things differently?
  • Kellas points to the factors we discussed in week
    1 i.e. the Legacy of union (religion,
    education, law) and the growth of Scottish Office
  • The separate legal system as the strongest clue

7
Aspects of the legal system
  • Scottish legislation in Westminster is
    time-consuming so dealt with by Scottish Grant
    Committee
  • Some laws exclusive to Scotland (i.e. public/
    private distinction)
  • Scottish courts have jurisdiction (bar House of
    Lords in final civil appeal)
  • Scottish legal profession has its own
    qualifications, traditions and elite recruitment.
    So legislation may converge, but treatment still
    differs.

8
(2) Defining the Scottish Political System
  • Fits in with (then) current definitions, such as
  • the authoritative allocation of values in a
    society (Easton) ) - met by the different
    content of Scots Law, religion, education, and
    much else in Scottish life)
  • 2. a collection of recognizable units, which are
    characterized by cohesion and covariance
    (Deutsch) Scotland is more likely candidate for
    cohesion since more see themselves as Scottish
    over British and there is a greater history of
    common action (e.g. warfare with England)

9
(3) Different Policy Conditions Require Different
Policy
  • NB importance of perception i.e. of Scots
    thinking of themselves as different
  • History of common action
  • Religion different and more significant. Legacy
    of democracy in Presbyterianism? Catholic
    education provision social attitudes to moral
    issues.
  • Education broader curriculum, 4 year degree,
    equality of opportunity, higher participation
  • Mass communication
  • Sport

10
Other factors (with uncertain significance)
  • Eating and drinking habits affects licensing
    laws and health care
  • Lower population density affects local
    government size and provision
  • Emigration/ migration
  • Gaelic/ distinct accent
  • Employment in agriculture, manufacturing,
    declining industries more unemployment, greater
    need for FDI
  • Significance of oil
  • A larger proportion of Scots considering
    themselves to be working class.
  • Stronger trade union affiliation.
  • A larger social rented sector in housing.

11
A similar discussion can be found in Hutchison
(1996)
  • Heavy Scottish demand for state employment since
    a larger public sector is required to administer
    Scottish needs (dependency on the state?).
  • Greater reliance on the manufacturing based
    nationalised industries i.e. coal, steel, iron,
    transport.
  • A greater importance of agriculture, fishing and
    forestry to the economy and Scotlands
    contribution to the UK output
  • Greater proportion in state education (with much
    private education in Scotland for expatriates)
  • Higher unemployment rates and lower income per
    capita (meaning more reliance on social security
    and the NHS)
  • Higher public expenditure in Scotland, even
    taking a needs assessment into account (legacy of
    Goschen formula?)

12
(4) The Scottish Policy Style Social Work as
Case Study
  • Social Work Act 1968 is a good (only?) example of
    policy divergence (despite salient nature) e.g.
    probation subsumed within social work. How was
    it achieved?
  • Scottish Office more comprehensive, with one
    minister covering the range of issues involved.
  • Closer contact with affected interests.
  • Framed as experiment/ pilot project.

13
(5) Qualifications to the Argument (more on web)
  • System applies most to law reform, education,
    local government
  • In other areas autonomy ensured through
    discretion/ implementation
  • Or the allocation of British values is acceptable
  • Scots are well aware that ultimate executive
    power resides in Cabinet
  • Scottish process only different if hidden from
    view
  • Limited power over economy which is geared
    towards SE England. Barnett allows some autonomy
  • Most legislation considered by Grand Committee is
    innocuous

14
Summary of the Scottish Political System argument
(Best case?)
  • Context of homogeneity thesis
  • Legacy of union state as focus for Scottish
    interests
  • Scottish Office introduction and precedent set
  • Scottish Political System as qualified autonomy,
    dependent on a range of conditions

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Conditions
  • The policy area autonomy is most likely in the
    policy areas left distinct following the union
    (i.e. education, law reform, local government).
  • Levels of central government attention and
    potential for embarrassment that is, much
    depends on the ability of Scottish actors to
    frame issues as technical or humdrum while
    minimising the appearance of policy divergence.
    Success ensures limited Whitehall attention and
    hence some level of day-to-day autonomy. Much of
    this success depends on the role of the Scottish
    Office as a conduit for Scottish interests or
    its ability to cover a wide range of functions
    with a relatively small number of actors.
  • The discretion involved in implementing policy.
  • The Barnett formula and the ability to direct
    spending priorities.

16
Turning conditions around
  • Autonomy is restricted to a small number of
    areas.
  • The Secretary of State for Scotland effectively
    needs permission to initiate policy and this is
    rarely granted.
  • Discretion is always apparent in implementation
    anyway
  • The role of the Treasury restricts the
    redirection of spending.

17
Bulpitt Territory and Power
  • Distinction between centre and periphery
  • Distinction between high and low politics
  • High politics in modern era foreign affairs,
    economy, security, law order
  • If the centre wants a quite life it does not pay
    much attention to low politics, leaving this to
    the periphery
  • In these circumstances it is a mistake to equate
    potential power with actual power

18
Bulpitts hypothesis in action
  • 1920 (i.e. after Irish settlement) to 1961 saw a
    return to normalcy
  • UK preoccupation with its position in the world.
    No time/ inclination for low politics
  • Qualified/ conditional autonomy
  • Dont get carried away this is neglect of the
    periphery, with economic policy geared towards
    finance capital in the city

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1960s onwards
  • Britain's declining status in the world and
    economic decline
  • Greater attention to domestic affairs in part to
    control public expenditure (also related to
    technocratic belief in modernisation)
  • Earlier neglect of periphery meant that centre
    did not anticipate antipathy in periphery to e.g.
    local government reform
  • Series of reforms by mid 70s shows conditional
    nature of periphery autonomy
  • Health policy in Thatcher era good example

20
Paterson The Autonomy of Modern Scotland
  • High level of autonomy compared to small
    independent states
  • I.e. Scotland could only expect so much within
    global context
  • Autonomy apparent in some areas (e.g. education)
    but not others (e.g. defence)
  • Discussion from 18th to 20th century depends on
    reinterpretation of value of Scottish decisions

21
18th century
  • The union was a good deal for Scotland.
    Parliament less symbolic than in England.
    Religious organisation crucial.
  • British route seen as progressive (like Europe
    now?)
  • Anglicisation only accepted on Scottish terms
    (e.g. Court of Session numbers of judges
    maintained, jury system welcomed. NB despotic
    French)

22
19th century
  • Unionist nationalism - the union is beneficial
    and based on previous victories when faced with
    takeover.
  • Lack of Westminster interference unless invited
  • Informal Scottish MP system outside Westminster
  • Autonomy of Scottish boards consulting with local
    interests
  • Disharmony more likely within Scotland e.g. on
    class or party lines

23
20th century
  • Continuation of accepted assimilation through
    rise of technocracy (rule by experts)
  • Nationalism defined as acting in nations
    interest (through assimilation) as well as Tory
    nationalism
  • Welfare state entered private arena, but (a)
    promoted by Scottish middle classes (b) the
    doctors, social workers and unemployment benefit
    offices are best thought of as part of the local
    state, not the centre

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Importance of implementation
  • While Scotland did not have its own legislation,
    it had its own welfare state bureaucracy.
  • the autonomy and distinctiveness of any country
    rested more on the way that its bureaucracy
    interpreted legislation than on the legislation
    itself
  • Lack of divergence not through forced
    assimilation but lack of demand for difference

25
So, when necessary, and when the Scottish
Secretary could
  • construct a Scottish consensus on social
    policy, he could get his way, provided that the
    direction he was pursuing did not deviate too far
    from government policy in London. As a result,
    the real power in Scottish politics came to lie
    with the Scottish Office bureaucrats, because it
    was by means of their committees and networks
    that the Scottish Secretary could sound out and
    mould Scottish opinion (1994 109).

26
Importance of civil society
  • Scottish Office as focal point. Civil Society
    pressures used in Whitehall negotiations
  • Professional business links to Whitehall through
    sponsored quangos
  • STUC strategy

27
Autonomy in 2 ways
  • Up to 1979 (bar Heath period), Scotland got the
    government it voted for
  • Main parties in agreement on broad principles and
    legislation (i.e. legislation in Scottish
    interests despite ultimate authority in UK)
  • Political debate surrounding the best means to
    implement

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Examples
  • Education, which has the most autonomy and a
    distinct policy network. Measures taken outside
    Scotland could be seen in this light
    comprehensive schooling was in Scottish
    professional interests, while the more
    threatening vocational training measures were
    successfully resisted (and one of many which
    prompted the Thatcher government to change its
    attitude to Scotland).
  • Housing, in which technical decisions were made
    in Scotland to account for different policy
    circumstances.
  • A distinct Scottish social ethic in social work
    and juvenile justice.
  • Differences in health policy, reflecting e.g. the
    greater importance of teaching hospitals and
    rural conditions.
  • In other areas, such as social security, most
    economic decisions, the nationalised industries,
    centralisation was not questioned since attitudes
    to these issues were similar and there were
    benefits to the economy of scale.

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Critics of the notion of a Scottish Political
System
  • Moore and Booth
  • If the term system is to have any meaning in
    political science it must relate to a distinctive
    sovereign and autonomous set of political
    institutions governing within defined territorial
    boundaries, which clearly Scotland does not
    have.

30
Rose
  • The Scottish Political System as a subsystem
    under the unitary state
  • It remains a unitary state as long as the power
    to delegate or revoke delegated power remains in
    the hands of the central authority the central
    authority determines the policies for which
    subordinate units are responsible, and it also
    determines the size and boundaries of these
    units. The central authority may even abolish a
    subordinate jurisdiction. Responsibilities for
    carrying out public policy are divided among a
    multiplicity of institutions, but authority is
    undivided in a unitary state

31
Killer blow?
  • Yes there is a higher authority, but delegation
    is accompanied by neglect
  • Potential power/ exercise distinction
  • Britain/ EU analogy

32
Midwinter, Keating, Mitchell (1991)
  • Ultimate authority elsewhere
  • Spectrum of autonomy according to policy area
  • considerable autonomy in some areas (e.g.
    education)
  • In others it maximises its impact by contributing
    to UK policy
  • Is argument that much different?
  • They argue (a) similarity because Kellas
    imprecise and often argues against own thesis
    (b) Kellas does not recognise dual nature of
    Scottish Office (not only to represent Scottish
    interests but also as arm of central government)

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Midwinter, Keating, Mitchell (1991)
  • Responsibilities - Agriculture, Fisheries
    Environment Education and Industry Home Affairs
    ( Scottish Courts Administration) Local
    government, Housing, Planning Transport and
    Health
  • Does not equate with powers. Scottish Office not
    designed to be a policy initiating body. Does
    not do this outwith Whitehall control

34
Policy divergence discouraged
  • Sits uneasily with (appearance of) Collective
    Cabinet Responsibility
  • Autonomy only when no overlap (i.e. not often)
  • Most Civil Service working in Scotland not in
    Scottish Office (but most senior)
  • Scope for difference only if allowed and if
    minister is inclined
  • Scope for difference where policy is technical
    but in these cases there may be professional
    dominance of the issue on GB basis

35
Scottish Office influence
  • Scottish Office as Britains largest pressure
    group
  • Scottish Office position strong if interests
    united behind it
  • Lobbying most effective if discreet
  • So history of close consultation and consensus
    building in Scotland with minimum adverse
    publicity
  • Trade off between access and push for autonomy

36
Scottish Office policy initiation
  • Not just lobbying. Also participation in
    formulation
  • Sometimes takes lead (especially when equal
    weight e.g. fisheries)
  • But Whitehall departments have more staff and
    more senior staff
  • Policy tends to be left to those with expertise
    and seniority
  • So Scottish Office feeds up to Whitehall in
    formulation and has some discretion in
    implementation

37
Critique of Paterson/ Kellas (1)
  • Implementation not restricted to Scotland (NB
    Bulpitts periphery includes local government)
  • Exaggerates lack of central control
  • Why assume discretion at Scottish level? E.g.
    Local authorities had discretion and often acted
    against Scottish Office
  • E.g. see Hutchison pre-war coordination of
    hospital services, modernisation of housing
    stock, SSHA, new towns
  • Scottish Office response was address local
    authority parochialism (in its eyes) and
    reorganise into larger authorities for a broader
    view
  • Irony greater resources, more effective
    challenge (e.g. water, Brussels)
  • Hutchison Q Should there be a Scottish
    Political System? Local authority opposition to
    address worries of concentration of power in
    Scottish Office?

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(2) Governing party
  • The role of the centre or parliamentary
    sovereignty was particularly important (and the
    Scottish Political System less visible) when the
    governing party had a minority in Scotland.
  • Ties in with imposition of Thatcherism, despite
    wets in Scotland
  • Examples local government reform/ finance (e.g.
    poll tax), bus deregulation, council house sales,
    regional aid reform, industry closure, school
    board reform, HE cuts

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How was Thatcherism dealt with?
  • Kellas some victories Ravenscraig, Scottish
    Office sponsored regional aid, maintenance of
    Barnett.
  • Brown et al implementation delays to housing,
    modified education reform, resistance to water
    privatisation, but still
  • a growing gulf between policy preferences
    decided by a Westminster majority and those which
    gain public support in Scotland

40
(3) Treasury control
  • It ignores the tight financial control exerted
    by the Treasury within the UK system of
    government
  • Still relevant following devolution

41
And finally
  • Autonomy only possible when Whitehall convinced
    that divergence is insignificant.
  • Again, continuing relevance - the need to ensure
    some degree of uniformity to avoid political
    embarrassment is still a factor cited in the
    convergence/ divergence literature
  • But how important is it? Compare to clear red
    water in Wales.
  • Do ministers also have to make their mark and
    pursue divergent policies?
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