Title: Australian Aviation Council AUSAC Aviation Summit The Shape Of Things To Come Carlton Crest Hotel, M
1Australian Aviation Council (AUSAC)Aviation
Summit The Shape Of Things To ComeCarlton Crest
Hotel, Melbourne, 14 March 2005
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2Aviation Summit The Shape Of Things To Come
- 0820-0830 Welcome Captain John Siebert, AUSAC
President Executive GM Operations National Jet
Systems - 0830-0840 Opening Mr Ian Smith, Chairman
Aerospace Maritime and Defence Foundation of
Australia Limited - 0840-0900 MCs Overview Mr Peter Harbison,
AUSAC Director Managing Director Centre for
Asia Pacific Aviation - 0900-0930 Keynote Address Mr Peter Yuile,
Deputy Secretary Department of Transport and
Regional Services, representing the Federal
Minister for Transport and Regional Services
3Aviation Summit The Shape Of Things To Come
- 0930-1030 Panel 1 Regional Aviation, Policy
Law, Airports, Education Training - Moderator Mr Paul Bredereck, Vice President
AUSAC CEO Aviation Australia - Speakers
- Mr Terry Wesley-Smith, Chairman Regional Aviation
Association of Australia - Mr James Kimpton, Aviation Law Association of
Australia and New Zealand - Mr John McArdle, Chairman Australian Airports
Association - Mr Alan Jones, Senior Lecturer Kangan Batman TAFE
- Mr Stephen Fankhauser, Co-ordinator Aviation
Programs Swinburne University of Technology
4Aviation Summit The Shape Of Things To Come
- James Kimpton Law Policy (his personal views)
- Facilitating entry to the industry and expansion
of participants in the industry disposed to
comply with safety requirements is as important
as ensuring the best behaviour by those already
there the Civil Aviation Act should reflect
this. - Safety regulations should regulate on the basis
of safety risk not economic characterisation of
activity facilitate doing business where this
does not undermine safety.
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- James Kimpton Law Policy (his personal views)
- CASA and the Government should facilitate
international trade in aviation products and
services ratification and implementation of the
Cape Town Convention regarding registration of
aircraft and associated security interests would
allow readier financing of aircraft purchases. - The CASA liability issue must be fixed.
6Aviation Summit The Shape Of Things To Come
- John McArdle Airports (Chairman AAA)
- High cost of Regulation
- Regional and Rural Airports unintended
consequences counting the cost of the new
regulatory regime. - Safety and Security Regulations increase
staffing levels, administration and maintenance
programs increased costs. - Aging aircraft phase out of piston aircraft
replacement costs terminal capacities. - Effect of flow on from low cost carrier
operations to Regional ports.
7Aviation Summit The Shape Of Things To Come
- John McArdle Airports (Chairman AAA)
- Bureaucratic Paternalism
- Not letting go of management regulated
airports. - DOTARS and CASA Regulatory environment that
seemingly enhances career path opportunities
instead of pro-active aviation related
activities. - Safety Management Systems and Security Risk based
assessments and remedies should be enough given
Common Law obligations.
8Aviation Summit The Shape Of Things To Come
- John McArdle Airports (Chairman AAA)
- Need for a National Aviation Industry Policy
- No review since mid 1990s policy despite recent
turmoil in industry both locally and abroad. - AUSLINK ignores Aviation as Transport connector
and integral stakeholder with significant
infrastructure investment and economic
generation. - Lack of training incentive within Australia
impact on regional Australia.
9Aviation Summit The Shape Of Things To Come
- Stephen Fankhauser, Swinburne University of
Technology - An aviation career We did it this way, this is
what you need to do.. - Changes to the Air Transportation Industry in the
last 25 years. - Future Growth in the Industry and what does it
mean. - Do our young aspirants want to be aviation
professionals the lure of the Multi Media. - Aviation Training and Education an Integrated
Approach. - Education and Training for the Industry now.
- The Importance of Alliances.
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- 1130-1230 Panel 2 General Aviation,
Recreational Aviation, Maintenance Repair
Overhaul - Moderator The Honourable John Sharp, Chairman
Aviation Safety Foundation Australia (ASFA) - Speakers
- Ms Marj Davis, AUSAC Director President of the
Royal Federation of Aero Clubs of Australia
(RFACA) - Mr Ross Carrington, Managing Director General
Flying Services - Mr John Gardon, President Recreational Aviation
Australia (RAA) - Mr Ken Cannane, AUSAC Director Executive
Director Aviation Maintenance, Repair and
Overhaul Business Association (AMROBA).
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- Marj Davis, President RFACA
- Ageing Fleet
- Cost of new aircraft out of reach for average
General Avaition (GA) operator. - How long can we keep repairing and refurbishing?
- What are the safety implications of operating a
30 year old fleet?
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- Ms Marj Davis, President RFACA
- Flight Training Standards Bureaucratisation of
Flying Training - Declining standards.
- Significant risks in particular in relation to
Private and Business Flying. - Brain Drain young Instructors leaving and
older Instructors near retirement. - Paper work required.
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- Ms Marj Davis, President RFACA
- Shortage of Career Instructors and particularly
Chief Flying Instructors (CFIs) - Recognition
- Reward
- Job Satisfaction
- Minimum hour qualifications for CFI
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- Mr Ross Carrington, Managing Director General
Flying Services - Reinstatement of investment in new aircraft
- The government needs to support the previous
depreciation provisions relating to aircraft
purchases. Incentives need to be created like
those in the United States to invigorate aircraft
investment. Aircraft are the tools of our
industry without these tools our industry will
not survive.
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- Mr Ross Carrington, Managing Director General
Flying Services - Proper business management and planning needs to
be developed in the industry. Who is going to do
this ? What role can the regulator play? - Engineers? Why young people do not consider a
career as a LAME and take a position as a Holden
engineer? - Most of the current participants in General
Aviation do not sell GA and whilst this condition
exists then only a few will survive the next 5-10
years.
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- 1400-1500 Panel 3 Military Aviation, Major
Airlines, Aerospace - Moderator Peter Harbison, Managing Director,
Centre for Asia Pacific Aviation - Speakers
- Air Commodore Stewart Cameron CSC, Director
General for Capability Management representing
Chief of Air Force, Australian Defence Force - Captain Chris Manning, Head of Flight Operations
Chief Pilot Qantas Airways - Mr John Bartlett, Head of Safety Systems Virgin
Blue - Captain Trevor Jensen MAP, Head of Technical
Operations, Jetstar Airways - Mr Rob Hunter, Vice President Production
Military Services, Australian Aerospace (an EADS
company)
17Aviation Summit The Shape Of Things To Come
- Air Commodore Stewart Cameron CSC
- Introduction of new capability and transition
issues surrounding legacy capability platforms. - Over the next 15 years, Air Force will be
managing the introduction of capability and the
transition of legacy items. This period of
transition from old to new is likely to be very
traumatic and will stretch our capacity to the
limit. - Air Force will be looking to industry to support
and assist in the transition phase as transitions
overlap to ensure that our capability can be
maintained at adequate levels.
18Aviation Summit The Shape Of Things To Come
- Air Commodore Stewart Cameron CSC
- Future Aviation Workforce Planning
- Air Force will bring into service many
significant new capabilities in the next 10 years
which will change the mix and distribution of
aircrew and the required aircrew skill sets.
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- Air Commodore Stewart Cameron CSC
- Greater use of Reserve Forces within Air Force.
- Given that Defence has made significant
contributions to the national skill and
experience base (e.g. Air Traffic Control and
Pilots), Air Force should strive to ensure that
it continues to make use of these personnel once
they depart full time service.
20Aviation Summit The Shape Of Things To Come
- Mr John Bartlett, Head of Safety Systems, Virgin
Blue - The development of a regulatory model and
structure that will ENABLE the orderly growth of
air commerce in Australia. - The current Australian regulatory regime is in
danger of losing touch with an industry where the
pace and scale of change is far exceeding the
regulators ability to respond to new airline
management paradigms in any consistent way. - Current regulations dont address risk
management, quality system or organisational
accountability requirements, all of which are
foundational disciplines in modern airline
operation.
21Aviation Summit The Shape Of Things To Come
- Mr John Bartlett, Head of Safety Systems, Virgin
Blue - The development of a clear Government aviation
policy and associated philosophy. - The prescriptive regulatory model is outdated and
at odds with the outcome based models such as the
new) FARs and JAROPS. The current model is
captured by a functional approach driven by a
technocratic regulator. - The underpinning Civil Aviation Act is now 18
years old and other than in the catch-all
provisions of section 28 gives no clear policy
guidance to industry on the organisational
behaviours that drive safety outcomes.
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- Mr John Bartlett, Head of Safety Systems, Virgin
Blue - The Mutual Recognition of Aviation related
Certification between Australia and New Zealand. - Mutual Recognition has nothing to do with
COMBINING regulatory systems. It simply accepts
that each safety system achieves an equivalent
level of safety in its own way. - Mutual Recognition has political acceptance (MOU
between Ministers). Statute in NZ, Enabling
legislation currently before an AUS Senate
hearing.
23Aviation Summit The Shape Of Things To Come
- Captain Trevor Jensen MAP, Head of Technical
Operations, Jetstar Airways - Relevance of the industry
- ? Is the industry really considered relevant in
Canberra? - ? Why doesnt the Government provide assistance
for - New aircraft we have a very old training fleet
in Australia. - Pilot Training (HECS) - Lack of quality in pilot
recruitment pool. - Apprentices - Aging LAME population.
- ? Who really represents the industry?
- ? Do we have too many self interest groups? What
lessons can we learn from other industry bodies
e.g. Farmers, Tourism. - ? We permit divide and conquer - this allows the
bureaucratic system to wallow.
24Aviation Summit The Shape Of Things To Come
- Captain Trevor Jensen MAP, Head of Technical
Operations, Jetstar Airways - Safety
- Safety is not showing improvement.
- Should the Regulator hold the training budget?
- If yes, how relevant is the training they provide?
25Aviation Summit The Shape Of Things To Come
- Captain Trevor Jensen MAP, Head of Technical
Operations, Jetstar Airways - Capability of the Regulatory System
- ? Legislative process does not represent the real
world needs. - ? Why not outsource to the NZ regulatory system.
- ? Inconsistency between Offices /Offices and
Offices/ Canberra. - ? Impact on Industry costs when safety is used to
disguise an industrial position e.g. 132 rule. - ? Knee jerk responses cost money e.g. security
requirements.
26Aviation Summit The Shape Of Things To Come
- Captain Trevor Jensen MAP, Head of Technical
Operations, Jetstar Airways - Co-ordination of Military / Civil Resource
Planning - ? Aging LAME population.
- ? Lack of quality in Pilot recruitment pool.
- ? Use of Airspace / Airfields.
27Aviation Summit The Shape Of Things To Come
- Captain Trevor Jensen MAP, Head of Technical
Operations, Jetstar Airways - Research and Development
- Need to really have a plan?
- Do we need an R D program in Australia? are
we simply allowing a group of academics to hide
from the real world? - Honesty ? is this another gab fest or we going
to make recommendations we are prepared to act
on?