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My learning diary
  • learning words and making mistakes
  • by Richard Gallen
  • IATEFL Cardiff. April 1 2009

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  • I have a certain fluency.
  • I am quite inaccurate.
  • I avoid difficult words.
  • I repeat myself a lot.
  • Same old language,the same old words.
  • A large passive knowledge.
  • A large semi active knowledge.
  • A fuzzy awareness of grammar rules.

3
  • He corrects me very little in open speech. I
    said I wanted more correction. He said he didnt
    want to interrupt my fluency.

4
  • What should I do about her? She said she didnt
    want to correct us,in front of others, that she
    didnt want to embarrass us. Why embarrass? Its
    embarrassing if you get corrected outside
    classroom environments

5
  • 3 types of mistake......
  • 1. I knew the correct form but didn't use it
    correctly.
  • 2. I didn't know the correct form but
    immediately saw why it wasn't correct.
  • 3. I didn't know the correct form but a brief
    explanation or exemplification made it more or
    less clear

6
  • My mistakes? The ones she noted were mostly
    stupid slips. Seeing them written down had no
    effect on me whatsoever. Its no surprise to me
    that I make some of these mistakes two or three
    times in a five minute conversation. There is a
    need to be corrected on the spot, for me to
    realise when I am making them.

7
  • Im learning from the corrections she makes at
    others un parte became una parte.
    Cuando tengo ninos' became 'Cuando tenga ninos,
    this was another correction she gave R. He
    doesnt have the subjunctive.

8
  • You can store a correction in your short term
    memory for a few seconds, just the sound of
    it,before it goes. I have to actually stop
    speaking to be able to write it down. And after a
    while I just give up.And when I do get stuff
    down,Ive completely forgotten my original
    incorrect utterance

9
  • I missed the majority of todays corrections
    because I was concentrating on what I was going
    to say next. Its very hard to speak and write at
    the same time. Much easier I think for her to
    listen and write.

10

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  • Do you understand?
  • yes
  • but is it correct?
  • well yeah
  • but is that how you would say it?
  • probably not
  • HOW WOULD YOU SAY IT?

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  • I AM SURE THERE MUST BE A BETTER WAY OF SAYING
    WHAT I'M SAYING

13
  • Reformulation is when.....
  • The teacher repeats what the student has said in
    a more clear or natural way. The focus is on
    improvement rather than correction

14
  • A reformulation of my Spanish
  • I wanted to say that I regretted bringing by
    bicycle
  • Me siento mal de traer mi bicicleta
  • Estoy arepentido de haber traido mi bicicleta

15
  • How would you reformulate the following?
  • In a meeting simulation a student says in
    response to another student's suggestion,
  • That won't work
  • A student talking about renovating an old train
    line says,
  • The rebuilding of the line has been done
  • During a meeting simulation a student says,
  • We need to find an answer to this problem
  • A student was responding to some advice given
    about not walking along the canal late at night.
    She says,
  • Thanks for the information. I'll remember that.

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  • That won't work
  • I can't see that working
  • The rebuilding of the line has been done
  • The line has been rebuilt
  • We need to find an answer to this problem
  • We need to solve this problem
  • Thanks for the information. I'll remember that.
  • Thanks for the information. I'll bear that in mind

17
  • Explicit correction can be given without
    stopping the flow of interaction. It may be
    sufficient to intervene for less than a minute
    before resuming the task or conversation at
    hand.

18
  • .the explicit focus on form will have been
    provided at precisely the moment when the learner
    is able to see the relationship between what was
    meant and how it should be said.

Patsy Lightbown-The importance of timing in
focus on form (1991)?
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