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Title: Report to HEPCCC March 17, 2000 Matthias Kasemann, FNAL


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Report to HEPCCCMarch 17, 2000Matthias
Kasemann, FNAL

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Related URLs
  • ICFA-SCIC Homepage
  • http//www.hep.net/ICFA/index.htmlCern -gt
    Scientific Committees -gt ICFA -gt ICFA Standing
    Committee on International Connectivity
  • ICFA-NTF Homepage
  • http/nicewww.cern.ch/davidw/icfa/icfa-ntf.html
  • ICFA-NTF July98 Report
  • http//nicewww.cern.ch/davidw/icfa/July98Report.h
    tml

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ICFA meeting, Vancouver, 1998
  • ICFA received the final report of the
    Networking Task Force (ICFA-NTF).
  • Decision create a Standing Committee on
    Interregional Connectivity (ICFA-SCIC).
  • Committee members represent major HEP user
    communities and laboratories.
  • Focus should be on intercontinental connectivity

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Charge to ICFA-SCIC
  • Make recommendations to ICFA concerning the
    connectivity between America, Aisia and Europe.
  • As part of the process of developing
    theserecommendations, the committee should
  • monitor traffic,
  • keep track of technology developments,
  • periodically review forecasts of future bandwidth
    needs, and
  • provide early warning of potential problems.
  • Create subcommittees when necessary to meet the
    charge.
  • The chair of the committee should report to ICFA
    once a year, at its joint meeting with laboratory
    directors.

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ICFA-SCIC membership
  • The chair is appointed directly by ICFA. ?
  • Each of the major user laboratories, CERN, DESY,
    FERMILAB, KEK and SLAC, should appoint one member
    each. ?
  • ECFA, DPF jointly with IPP, and ACFA, should
    appoint two members each. ?
  • ICFA will appoint one member from theRussian
    federation and one member from South America. ?

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ICFA-SCIC membership
  • The representatives from the laboratories are
  • Manuel Delfino, (CERN),Michael Ernst
    (DESY),Kasemann (Fermi) (chair),Yukio Karita
    (KEK),Richard Mount (SLAC).
  • The North American user representatives are
  • Harvey Newman (USA),Dean Karlen (Canada).
  • For Russia new member
  • ECFA has nominated
  • Frederico Ruggieri (INFN Frascati),Denis Linglin
    (IN2P3, Lyon).
  • ACFA has nominated
  • Prof. Rongsheng Xu (Computer Center, IHEP
    China)
  • Prof. HwanBae Park (Korea University)
  • For South America Sergio F. Novaes (University
    de S.Paulo)

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ICFA-SCIC meetings
  • April 15. - 16. at FNAL.
  • Main topics
  • review charge to SCIC,
  • review work of ICFA-NTF( a lot of it overlaps
    with SCIC charge),
  • define priorities and projects,
  • organize work (and subgroups).
  • Video Conference on July 6, 1999.
  • Topics
  • update on status of network connectivity
  • working group plans
  • action items

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Bandwidth Growth Observation/Prediction
  • Technology Tracking and Cost Model will be
    performed by the ICFA SCIC Committee

9
Bandwidth Requirements for HENP
  • Several sources of information have been used to
    estimate the bandwidth requirements
  • ICFA NTF Questionnaire on Computing and
    Networking Needs
  • Computing Technical Proposals and Reports
  • Scaling according to computing and local area
    network (LAN) speeds
  • Scaling according to the data rate to storage,
    and to the accumulated data volume
  • Bandwidth available at Homes
  • Bandwidth available on the Mass Market
  • Bandwidth required for Physicists' Tasks
    (Reconstruction, interactive Analysis, Remote
    Collaboration,)
  • Scaling according to the speed of major links
    common in national and research networks

10
ICFA Network Task Force Bandwidth Requirements
Estimate (Mbps)
See http//l3www.cern.ch/newman/icfareq98.html

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ICFA SCIC meeting Nov. 13, 1999
  • Invited UK representative Richard Hughes-Jones
  • Topics discussed
  • Status reports from Canada, CERN, DESY, France,
    Italy, Japan, UK.
  • Wide Area networks end-to-end performance
    measurements for video and file transfer show
    need for application tuning.
  • Quality of Service for National Research Networks
    and monitoring results.
  • Plans for Video system (VRVS project) for higher
    quality and extended compatibility to video
    clients.

12
Impact of loss on applications
  • Email
  • fairly insensitive to quality, may be delayed but
    keeps retrying for days and eventually gets
    through
  • Web
  • usually has human but expectations are low,
    performance often more limited by server, human
    present so can retry
  • Bulk file transfer
  • unattended, if gt 10-12 loss connections can
    time out
  • Interactive telnet, voice
  • very time loss sensitive
  • E.g. telnet/ssh loss of gt 3 severely impacts
    typing ability

Importance of loss/performance
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Performance
  • Measurements from
  • 28 monitors in 15 countries
  • Over 500 remote hosts
  • 72 countries (covers all 56 PDG booklet
    countries)
  • Over 1200 monitor-remote site pairs
  • Over 50 of HENP collaborator sites are
    explicitly monitored as remote sites by PingER
    project
  • Atlas (37), BaBar (68), Belle (23), CDF (73),
    CMS (31), D0 (60), LEP (44), Zeus (35), PPDG
    (100), RHIC(64)

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Results Top level view - Aug-99
2000 pairs in 56 countries
packet loss between regions
Monitoring region
Remote region
Poor (2.5-5) V. poor (5-12)
Good (0-1) Acceptable (1-2.5)
Bad (gt 12)
Within region (on diagonal) good to acceptable
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European performance from U.S.
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E. Eur-ope Loss
Good Accept Poor V. poor
Bad
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Russia
ESnet NSk good, ESnet ITEP IHEP improved
with new satellite Canada Edu bad all
over DESY, CERN improved to acceptable to ITEP,
IHEP, NSK with new satellite, Dubna still v.
poor to bad, UK poor to ITEP NSK KEK good to
NSk, v. poor to ITEP
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Europe seen from U.S.
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India / Mumbai / TIFR
Just added as beacon site
ESnet acceptable, Brazil, E. Europe/Russia poor
to bad Got better for Japan (KEK RIKEN), ESnet,
W. Europe in Oct-99, but now worse again (5 days
in Nov) Stanford vs. CMU SLAC, possibly BBN-CW
peering
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E. Asia
Poor (2.5-5) V. poor (5-12)
Good (0-1) Acceptable (1-2.5)
Bad (gt 12)
Japan good to acceptable to N. America W.
Europe S. America poor to all E. Asia Hong Kong
China similar (v. different routes)
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Asia seen from U.S.
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S. America
Poor (2.5-5) V. poor (5-12)
Good (0-1) Acceptable (1-2.5)
Bad (gt 12)
Generally poor to bad Argentina is bad with
everyone Within Brazil within Colombia,
Brazil to Colombia is acceptable Columbia looks
like to be the best
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Latin America, Africa Australasia
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Middle East
  • SLAC-Israel big change Sep 5
  • RTT went from 250 msec (E3 via London) to 620
    msec
  • Loss went from 6 to 1
  • ESnet peers with Israel at Chicago STAR-TAP (T3
    satellite to Israel)
  • 9 hops
  • Iran (chapar.ipm.ac.ir)
  • RTT 1000 msec.
  • 11 loss
  • ESnet - ATT (NY) - Unisource (NL) - archway
  • 13 hops

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Bulk transfer - Performance Trends
Bandwidth TCP lt 1460/(RTT sqrt(loss))
Note E. Europe NOT catching up
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Problem areas - summary
  • Germany was bad with .ca .edu yet good with
    ESnet. DESY improved to poor/acceptable in Aug
    with dedicated 3.5Mbps PVC to US/Canada RE,
    apart from Carleton
  • Russia (W) bad to .ca .edu, good to ESnet,
    mixed to Europe, poor to .jp. Dubna worse than
    others. ITEP/IHEP better since new satellite
  • Former E. block generally poor to bad
  • China/Hong Kong poor to very poor with most
  • S. America poor to very poor
  • India poor

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Monitoring results summary(1)
  • Performance is getting better
  • Within Western NRENs things are good
  • Good enough even for VoIP in terms of RTT,
    jitter, loss
  • Internet reliability
  • in some cases is beginning to approach that
    specified in phone company frame-relay contracts,
    but still has a way to go to meet phone company
    standards of 99.999
  • Improving QoS requires some combination of
  • Increased bandwidth, but even keeping pace with
    growing requirements takes constant upgrades and
    investment
  • Managed/reserved bandwidth works today in several
    cases
  • Diff Serv has big potential but it is still a
    research topic

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Monitoring results summary(2)
  • International performance from US to sites
    outside W. Europe, Japan, Korea is generally
    poor to bad
  • Transoceanic, needs special care, peering is
    critical
  • E. Europe, Russia, China, India, S. America
    performance is where N. America W. Europe were
    4 years ago and may not be improving as fast so
    the discrepancy is likely to increase.

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Report on immediate problem areas
  • One particular problem area is the outlying
    regions (outside the developed regions of the
    world, W. Europe, N. America and Japan)
  • who have poor connectivity (and may be falling
    further behind) and yet are delivering important
    contributions to HEP.
  • In many cases the countries need an enabler to
    push the Internet connectivity for the NREN.
  • ICFA members are closer to the level that can
    have an impact on the political representatives
    in the regions.

30
VRVS summary
  • Principal Investigator Caltech and ESnet
  • Collaborators CERN, Internet2/UCAID
  • The Virtual Rooms Videoconferencing System namely
    called VRVS has been put in production since
    early 1997.
  • It provides a low cost, bandwidth-efficient,
    extensible tool for videoconferencing and
    collaborative work over networks within the High
    Energy and Nuclear Physics communities and to
    some extent within Research and Education at
    large.

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VRVS Current future
  • VRVS is now a production system
  • As of today, more than 1937 machines from 1253
    different users are registered into the system.
  • During year 1999, 872 Multipoint Conferences has
    been Conducted (Total 2325 Hours).
  • More than 3000 point to point connection
    established.
  • 7 Virtual Rooms are available for World Wide
    Conferences in addition to the 4 available for
    each Continent (America only, Europe only, Asia
    only).
  • VRVS Future evolution/integration (RD)
  • Deployment and support of VRVS.
  • High Quality video and audio (MPEG1, MPEG2,..).
  • Shared applications, environment and workspace.
  • Integration of H.323 I.T.U Standard into VRVS.
  • Quality of Service (QoS) over the network.
  • Documentation and user-configuration
    recommendations.
  • Improved security, authentication and
    confidentiality.

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ICFA-SCIC would like to point out
  • How can we help to improve the network situation
    of a poorly connected and spend limited amount of
    money?
  • Suggested goal
  • HENP members of the country should participate in
    RD project with a western Lab/experiment that
    requires video conferencing for all collaborators
    to participate in, this will help to drive the
    requirement.
  • LHC detector production quality control,
    communication to production site
  • fully participate in LHC meetings and working
    groups from home institutes, publications of
    schools
  • contribution to collaborative software
    development (à la VRVS) with special emphasis on
    low bandwidth requirements.

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ICFA-SCIC would like to recommend
  • Suggested goal (ctd)
  • This proposal needs to be acceptable to the
    country, which requires pre-discussion with the
    country.
  • Video conferencing rooms and tools must be more
    widely available (at center (CERN, DESY, FNAL,
    SLAC) and remote)
  • low entrance cost for VRVS on desktop and
    conference rooms
  • Establish a 2Mbps line to the country.
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