DEVRY ETHC 445 Week 3 DQ 2 Living in Our State of Nature

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DEVRY ETHC 445 Week 3 DQ 2 Living in Our State of
Nature

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• ETHC 445 Week 3 DQ 2 Living in Our State of
  Nature
• Social Contract theorists say that morality
  consists of a set of rules governing how people
  should treat one another that rational beings
  will agree to accept for their mutual benefit, on
  the condition that others agree to follow these
  rules as well.
• Hobbes runs the logic like this in the form of a
  logical syllogism
• 1) We are all self-interested,

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• 2) Each of us needs to have a peaceful and
  cooperative social order to pursue our interests,
• 3) We need moral rules in order to establish and
  maintain a cooperative social order,
• Therefore, self-interest motivates us to
  establish moral rules.
• Thomas Hobbes looked to the past to observe a
  primitive State of Nature in which there is no
  such thing as morality, and that this
  self-interested human nature was "nasty, brutish,
  and short" -- a kind of perpetual state of
  warfare
• John Locke disagreed, and set forth the view that
  the state exists to preserve the natural rights
  of its citizens. When governments fail in that
  task, citizens have the rightand sometimes the
  dutyto withdraw their support and even to rebel.
  Listen to Locke's audio on the lecture tab and
  read his lecturette to be able to answer this
  thread.
• Locke addressed Hobbes's claim that the state of
  nature was the state of war, though he attribute
  this claim to "some men" not to Hobbes. He
  refuted it by pointing to existing and real
  historical examples of people in a state of
  nature. For this purpose he regarded any people
  who are not subject to a common judge to resolve
  disputes, people who may legitimately take action
  to themselves punish wrong doers, as in a state
  of nature.

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• Which philosophy do you espouse?
• In coming to grips with the two and considering
  your experience of society as it is today, think
  out loud about what you experiences as the State
  of Nature, and tell us what you would be willing
  to give up in exchange for civil order and
  personal security?
• You might consider what you have already given up
  in exchange for security as well as what might be
  required in coming days.
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