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Title: Point/Counterpoint


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Point/Counterpoint Responding to Diversionary
Tactics
Mike Riddle
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Diversionary Tactics
A maneuver that draws the attention of an
opponent away from a planned point of action or
discussion
  • Military strategy
  • Atheletics
  • Evolution

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Evolution change over time
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  • Changing the subject
  • Challenging the opponent with multiple,
    rapid-fire questions
  • Fuzzy words and definitions
  • Making up stories to throw the opponent off guard
  • Attacking the person (ad hominem)
  • We can agree to disagree
  • Arguing from ignorance

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Believer
Challenge 1
Thats just your interpretation
Part 1
6
Since you are offering another interpretation,
why is your interpretation better than my
interpretation of six literal days?
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Scientists have proven the earth is billions of
years old.
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Scientists have proven
Dating methods are based on interpretation of
evidence (historical science). Many scientific
evidences support a young earth. Which is correct?
This is importing information into the text and
demanding that Genesis conform to external data
(Eisegesis).
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Door-Eisegesis 03138
Reading Into
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Door-Exegesis 03135
Reading Out Of
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Scripture according to known science
  • You cant part seas and walk on dry land
  • A man cannot walk on water
  • Weather systems and storms are not altered by a
    human saying Be still
  • Water does not turn into wine
  • You cant feed 5,000 people with five small
    barley loaves and two small fish
  • You cant instantly heal the blind

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Thats just your interpretation
Part 2
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Im glad you agree with me that the days of
creation were literal days.
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Thats not what I said!!!
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Thats how I interpreted what you said.
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But what about all the evidence that proves the
earth is billions of years old?
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There is an abundance of evidence that indicates
a young earth and there are competent scientists
who accept a young earth.
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Believer
Challenge 2
God could have used evolution. The age of the
earth is not an important issue.
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Did God Use Evolution?
  • The character of God
  • The authority of Scripture
  • Logic

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Millions of Years Means
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The Character of God
He is the Rock, his work is perfect Deuteronomy
324
As for God, his way is perfect Psalm 1830
Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father
which is in heaven is perfect. Matthew 548
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And God saw every thing that He had made, and,
behold, it was very good
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The Authority of Scripture
And the evening and the morning were the first
day.
But from the beginning of the creation God made
them male and female.
For in six days the LORD made
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Exodus 2011
For in six days the LORD made the heavens and the
earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and
rested the seventh day. Therefore the LORD
blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it.
The Ten Commandments
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Which one is your authority?
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Logic
Bible
Evolution
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Did God Use Evolution?
  • A belief in evolution and billions of years
    affects the character of God
  • A belief in billions of years puts mans wisdom
    above Gods Word
  • Believing God used evolution is illogical and
    elevates mans wisdom above Gods Word

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Non-Believer
Challenge 3
Evolution is a fact
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Logical Fallacy
An error in reasoning
When someone attempts to persuade someone else to
adopt a position based on faulty reasoning
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Fuzzy Words
  • We believe
  • We think
  • Must have
  • Could have
  • Might have
  • Our opinion is
  • We guess
  • Over millions of years

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Biology Principles and Explorations, Holt,
Rinehart, and Winston, 2001, p. 307.
Lucys leg bones indicate that she must have
walked upright. She stood about 1 m (3 ft) tall.
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Biology, Miller and Levine, 2002, p. 426.
Those life forms must have evolved in the
absence of oxygen,
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Scientific American, July, 2002
laying the foundation for cellular
biochemistry. Astrochemical analysis hint that
quantities of these compounds might have
originated in space and fallen to earth in
comets, a scenario that may solve the problem of
how these constituents arose under the conditions
that prevailed when our planet was young.
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Joseph Silk, Ph.D. Astronomy, The Big Bang, 2001,
p. 170.
Imagine that infinitesimal fluctuations in
density were present in the early universe. The
expansion of the universe must have exerted a
stabilizing influence on such irregularities. The
expanding universe has the effect of greatly
impeding what otherwise might have been
catastrophic forces. Nevertheless, the process
of growth of fluctuations went on for a very long
time,
36
Prentice Hall, Science Explorer Life Science,
2002, p. 46.
The first cells could not have needed oxygen to
survive. They probably were heterotrophs that
used the chemicals in their surroundings for
energy.. At some point, some of the cells may
have developed the ability to make their own
food.
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Non-Believer
Challenge 4
Point/counter-point human evolution
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Human Evolution and Critical Thinking How Did It
Happen?
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The biological gap between us and our great ape
cousins is small. At last count, only 1.23
percent of our genes differ from those of
chimpanzees.
http//www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/apegenius/human.html
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Facts Versus Evolution
  • Only part of the DNA was used for comparison (the
    parts that aligned)
  • The chimp genome is 10 -12 percent larger than
    the human genome
  • Recent studies suggest between 5 and 20 percent
    differences

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Differences and Deception
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Human Evolution
John Pfeiffer, Professor of Anthropology
The shift in hunting from small to big game...
had an enormous effect on the shaping of man,
nearly doubling the size of his brain and
transforming one breed of Australopithecus to
Homo erectus.
Wrong
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Counter Point
Hunting larger animals, buffaloes instead of
rabbits, does not affect the DNA of the
reproductive cells, and would not cause an ape
to change into a human being.
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Human Evolution
Herbert Thomas, Deputy Director of the
Paleoanthropology and Prehistory Laboratory at
the College of France
Around five million years ago bipedalism
upright walking became the primary form of
locomotion in the australopithecines, the early
primitive hominids. The reason for this major
change in behavior was increasing severe drought
to the east of the African Rift Valley.
Wrong
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Counter Point
An animal cannot change from walking on all fours
to upright walking because of a drought or a
change in the environment. Environmental changes
have no effect on the DNA of the reproductive
cells.
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Human Evolution
Harvard Anthropologist, Dr. David Pilbeam,
Tool-using and tool-making have therefore been
important catalysts in human evolution.
Wrong
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Counter Point
This is genetically impossible. Using a tool or
making a tool does not affect the DNA of the
reproductive cells.
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Claim by Evolutionists
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Homework Assignment
For the rest of your life
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Believer
Challenge 5
Creation is too divisive. We should stick to the
essentials.
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2 Timothy 316
All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and
is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for
correction, for instruction in righteousness
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Jesus Drives Out the Money Changers
Matthew 2112-13
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Matthew 157
Jesus called the Scribes and Pharisees HYPOCRITES
54
Then His disciples came and said to Him, Do You
know that the Pharisees were offended when they
heard this saying?
But He answered and said, Every plant which My
heavenly Father has not planted will be uprooted.
Let them alone. They are blind leaders of the
blind. And if the blind leads the blind, both
will fall into a ditch.
Matthew 1512-14
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The Rich Young Ruler
Matthew 19 16-24
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The First Three Chapters
  • Our original relationship with God
  • Why we have death (sin)
  • Why we need a Savior
  • Why God will make everything new

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People become like the God they worship. If they
are going to learn about God through His
activity, creation is the best place to start. It
was and is the critical event for a persons
worldview.
Albert Baylis, Ph.D., From Creation To The Cross,
1996, p. 27.
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Many churches believe they can be neutral to
avoid conflict
Neutrality Surrender
The church blends in with the world
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Neutrality
He that is not with me is against me and he that
gathereth not with me scattereth abroad. Matthew
1230
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Believer
Challenge 6
We can agree to disagree.
Six days or millions of years
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Yes we can agree to disagree. But our two views
are opposite. This means we both cant be right.
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I was able to provide biblical evidence for my
position. Do you have any biblical evidence for
your position?
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Non- Believer
Challenge 7
The origin of life has nothing to do with
evolution
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If the origin of life has nothing to do with
evolution, then are you suggesting life was
created?
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No. I am just saying evolution only deals with
how things change.
66
Based on your definition of evolution, you are
suggesting that the biology textbook authors are
wrong. Is this true?
67
Not at all. Evolution is only concerned with how
things change (biology).
68
Since the textbooks include the origin of life
and the Big Bang as part of evolution, either
your definition is wrong or they are wrong.
69
And, without the origin of life settled, the
whole of biological evolution is without a
foundation. Are you asking me to accept evolution
as a matter of faith?
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No. That is not what I said.
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First, you made up a definition of
evolution. Second, you claimed the textbook
authors are wrong. Third, you are asking me to
accept evolution without a foundation.
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I already have a faith in Jesus Christ, Who
provides these foundational answers. Please tell
me why I should accept your faith in evolution
which has no foundation or beginning?
73
Non-Believer
Challenge 8
Evolution is both a fact and a theory
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Two Questions
What is evolution? What is a theory?
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Do You Believe in Evolution?
Answer with a question
What do you mean by evolution?
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What Is a Theory?
NAS, Science, Evolution, and Creationism, 2008.
A comprehensive explanation of some aspect of
nature that is supported by a vast body of
evidence.
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What Is a Theory?
Ken Miller, Ph.D., Only a Theory Evolution and
the Battle for Americas Soul, 2008.
Evolution, because it's a theory, is a higher
form of knowledge than a fact.
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Why evolution CANNOT be a theory (comprehensive
explanation) or a fact
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John Sanford (Ph.D. Genetics), Genetic Entropy
and the Mystery of the Genome, 2005
There is no information system designed by man
that can even begin to compare to it DNA.
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Werner Gitt (Ph.D. Physics and Information
Specialist), In the Beginning Was Information,
1997, p. 106.
  • There is no known law of nature, no known
    process and no known sequence of events which can
    cause information to originate by itself in
    matter.

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Monarch Butterfly
Speculation
INFORMATION
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Speculation
INFORMATION
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Speculation
INFORMATION
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Speculation
INFORMATION
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Thats just one example. Evolution is still a
fact!!
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Origin of matter Origin of life Origin of
humans Origin of dinosaurs Origin of stars Fossil
record
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Six Reasons for identifying and challenging
Diversionary Tactics
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Six Reasons for Apologetics
  1. Defends Christianity
  2. Strengthens believers
  3. Makes the Bible relevant
  4. Glorifies God
  5. Helps believers evangelize the lost
  6. Demonstrates obedience to Gods Word

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Apologetics and Scripture
2 Timothy 316 All Scripture 2 Cor 104-5
Strongholds 1 Peter 315 Ready answer James
122 Be doers of the Word Jude 3 Contend for the
faith Col 45-6 Know how to answer Titus
19 Exhort and convince
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The Solution
Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a
workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly
dividing the word of truth. 2 Timothy 215
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