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1
Publication Committee Issues
  • ATLAS PHYS notes
  • Authorship policy discussions
  • Next steps for Publication Committee

2
Categories of ATLAS PHYS notes
  • Proposal (to be endorsed by CB)
  • New notes are still submitted as ATL-PHYS-COM,
    then author requests approval as
  • PHYS-PUB (public)
  • PHYS-INT (internal)
  • PHYS-CONF (conference write ups)
  • PUB and CONF will be available outside ATLAS
  • INT notes will only be available to ATLAS members
    useful for documenting work in progress but not
    yet ready to be shown outside the collaboration
    (i.e. MUST NOT be sent to HEP-PH).
  • PUB notes should be the primary source of ATLAS
    approved plots, and could eventually be the
    official source of ATLAS preliminary results with
    collision data.
  • Note Tevatron experiments tend to give out
    preliminary results via web pages. LEP
    experiments had a more formal requirement to
    document preliminary results with note.

3
Access to ATLAS Phys notes
  • Key words have now been implemented
  • Maria Smizanska (PubComm)
  • Tibor Simko, Nicholas Robinson (CDS team)
  • When author submits a note, they are invited to
    pick key words
  • When searching for a note, these key words can be
    used
  • on the Search interface, a keyword selection box
    appears on the Advanced Search page under Search
    options heading, for example http//cdsweb.cern.
    ch/?cATLASNotesas1
  • Keywords BPHYS, BTAGGING, EGAMMA, EXOTICS,
    HEAVYIONS, HIGGS, JETETMISS, MCGENERATORS,
    MUCOMBINED, QCD, SM, SUSY, TOP
  • There will be an exercise to assign keywords to
    existing notes.
  • Longer term Discuss improving the protection for
    access to draft documents, eg. using personal
    userid/password instead of general ATLAS
    id/password.

4
Good practice for ATLAS notes
  • Submission of Scientific Notes to journals
  • Should be done via Connie Potter (ATLAS
    Secretariat)
  • Connie and the PubComm chairperson should be kept
    informed of interactions with the referee and
    eventual acceptance by journal
  • Investigations in progress to include the journal
    referee comments in CDS this is also an issue
    for future physics papers.
  • NB SNs should not be sent to hep-ph before they
    are approved by ATLAS
  • Any note describing analyses using ATLFAST or
    other ATLAS tools has to go through the proper
    ATLAS approval procedure
  • Guidelines for authorship of papers pre-2007 are
    in two documents http//atlas.web.cern.ch/Atlas/G
    ROUPS/GENERAL/SCINOTES/policy/pre2007.pdf
  • http//atlas.web.cern.ch/Atlas/GROUPS/GENERAL/SCI
    NOTES/policy/non_atlas_pub.pdf
  • Recent questions on author lists for conference
    papers may need to extend the guidelines
  • Often only space for one or a few names
  • There is not always a paper with the full author
    list which can be referenced to give appropriate
    credit
  • All procedures documented on the Publication
    Committee web pages http//atlas.web.cern.ch/Atlas
    /GROUPS/GENERAL/SCINOTES/scinotes.html
  • Please tell P. Wells if you find these to be
    unclear.

5
HEP-wide discussion of publication policy
  • IUPAP (International Union for Pure and Applied
    Physics) has a particle physics section C11.
  • Discussion of publication policy took place at
    ICHEP04 (Beijing)
  • Current author lists do not
  • Give credit to the people who did the analysis
  • Allow interested people to know who to contact
    for further discussion
  • Give meaningful publication and citation lists,
    especially of relevance to young people looking
    for jobs, and perhaps for review of performance
    of HEP groups in comparison to other sciences.
  • Current ATLAS policy is for all authors to sign
    all physics papers, but for small numbers of
    people to be able to publish supporting
    Scientific Notes.
  • Role of Scientific Notes in data-taking era needs
    further discussion
  • We can work to improve perceived status of
    Scientific Notes at present
  • C11 is setting up a working group to examine
    other options
  • G Herten, S Stapnes (IUPAP reps) and P Wells
    (ATLAS rep) are members.
  • eg. Belle collaboration require all authors to
    actively sign each paper

6
Further discussion of Authorship policy
  • Following questions raised at the last CB, we
    would like to make explicit that the scientific
    author list used to calculate MO share will in
    future be derived from the standard author list
    of ATLAS physics publications
  • Take the author list of September each year to
    define MO list
  • Do not count students for MO share
  • Do not count people signing on the basis of
    pre-data taking credit (MO payments for them
    were made in pre-data taking era)
  • 2/3 members of Authorship Committee have been
    identified, and need to be endorsed by CB
  • Proposal is to go ahead and collect the names of
    ATLAS authors and their qualification status from
    all the institutes, going back to 1996.
  • Will distribute excel spreadsheets with the
    appropriate fields, so that necessary information
    can be imported to the authorship DB
    automatically
  • In parallel, ideas on how to set up the
    authorship database are being explored. (Yet
    another ATLAS DB asking for expert support!)
  • Database must contain author and institute lists.
  • Functions to add/change information and generate
    author list, with nice straightforward web
    interface.

7
Example spread sheet for Author DB input
  • One sheet for institute name/address
  • One sheet for members (from Jan 1996 only for
    time at this institute)

Can lead to a very long list of footnotes
8
Publication Committee aims for the next six months
  • Finish the publication policy document
  • So far weve spent a lot of time on the sections
    concerning authorship
  • Implementing the authorship DB etc. is a project
    in itself
  • The introduction of new categories of physics
    notes needs to be documented (assuming it is
    approved)
  • Finish the proposal for review procedure
  • Finish the proposal for style guidelines
  • Broaden the discussion to include ATLAS policy
    for presentation of preliminary results?
  • The present document is very brief when
    discussing fast track notes. Perhaps we need to
    be more explicit there
  • first physics results?
  • discoveries!!!!!
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