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Title: The following is a presentation prepared for NASFAAs 2006 Conference in Seattle, WA July 58, 2006


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The following is a presentation prepared for
NASFAAs 2006 Conference in Seattle, WAJuly 5-8,
2006
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College Financial Planners and Financial Aid - Do
They Have a Role to Play?
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Presenters
  • John Pearson, CPA, CCPS
  • Tax and Educational Strategies
  • Norwalk, Connecticut
  • Mick Endersbe, CHFC, MS
  • President
  • College Planning University, LLC
  • Lakeville, Minnesota

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Apply Here For YourTax Scholarship!!
John Pearson, CPA, CCPSTax and Education
Strategies17 Pumpkin Lane Norwalk, CT
06851 203-984-2518 www.taxscholarship.net
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Todays Goal
  • Not to retread paths of student loans and
    government grants
  • No 529 savings plans
  • Not to game the financial aid system
  • Not to search for obscure scholarships
  • Seek practical solutions using tax, debt,
    consultative, and cash flow management to reduce
    the after-tax cost of college

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Warm-up Quiz
  • Desirable student with significant financial need
    applies to six colleges, with two top choices.
  • School A offers her a full scholarship for
    tuition and feesher other top choice offers her
    that leaves a nearly identical COA for family
    to fund.
  • She declines School As offer in favor of
    School B on a financial basis. Her parents
    state that even though the net COA were almost
    exactly the same, School As offer would have
    cost them 6,000-7,000 more!!
  • How could this be?

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Which of these student expenses are federal
income tax deductible?
  • Music lessons
  • SAT preparation courses
  • Sports training
  • Student abroad travel
  • Educational consultant fees
  • Weddings
  • Tutoring
  • Technology (computers, cell phones, etc.)

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What is this building?
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Important Terms
  • Adjusted Gross Income
  • Tax Deduction
  • Tax Credit
  • Exemption
  • Standard Deduction
  • Alternative Minimum Tax
  • Education Tax Incentives
  • Tax Bracket

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Current Tax Incentives For Education
  • Scholarship Exclusion
  • Educational reimbursement plan
  • 529/Prepaid tuition plan
  • Student loan interest deduction
  • Tuition deduction (expiring)
  • Hope and Lifetime Learning Credit

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So Who Are We Talking About?
  • Middle and upper middle class America
  • Living in areas w/ above average cost of living
    and median incomes
  • The house rich/cash poor who dont get need
    based aid

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And What Are Their Problems?
  • College prices rising beyond inflation rate
  • Parents have saved little if anything
  • Parents already have high debt levels
  • Students facing debt from college/credit cards
  • Graduation rates are extending

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As If That Werent Enough!
  • Rising energy and health care cost
  • Beginning of demographic shift of jobs to Asia
  • Tax incentives for education are inadequate
  • Education cost is shooting holes in Boomers
    biggest goal... Retirement

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So How Are The Boomers Doing It?
  • Paying out of cash flow
  • Using up savings/reducing retirement
    contributions
  • Obtaining scholarships
  • Going to the grandparents
  • Students are working more hours
  • But mostly, both parents and students are
    borrowing

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To Pay For One Childs College, You Need To Earn
For 5 Years of Average Public University 111,000
For 4 Years of Average Private
University 190,000
Assumes 28 bracket Federal and 5 State
Tax The average annual cost of year public
college is 13,800, Private university is 29,500
Source Harris Insight Funds
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How paying for education impacts retirement
  • Assume parents age 44, children 18 and 14, both
    attending private college 4 years
  • Initial cost is 25,000 after aid, 5 inflation
  • Assets invested at 8 compound
  • At age 65, parents retirement pool is
  • reduced by

846,426
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And what if those children attend private high
school
  • Parents begin at age 40 with students 14 and 10,
    both attend private school beginning in grade 9.
  • Annual Cost is 20,000, 5 inflation
  • 8 investment assumption
  • Private college follows at 5 inflation
  • Retirement savings would decline at age 65 by

1,767,668
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An EFC Scenario
  • AGI of 76,000
  • Wages 75K (Wife earns 50K, Husband 25K)
  • Parents have 30K in cash/savings
  • Kids are 18 and 14
  • Older child has 3K of summer earnings, 5K
    assets
  • Younger child has 5K of assets
  • 150K of home equity
  • Claimed the Hope Credit of 1500

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And the EFC is?
  • Under the Federal Methodology the parents EFC is
    12,304
  • Under the Institutional Methodology the parents
    EFC is 14,917
  • Source College Board Online Financial Aid
    Estimator

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Adding Some Wages
  • If AGI bumps to 101,000
  • Wages split 75,000/25,000
  • Everything else stays the same
  • EFC jumps to 22,567/22,544
  • AGI at 126,000 (Split 75,000/50,000)
  • EFC becomes 33,278/31,998
  • Source College Board Online Financial Aid
    Estimator

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Shifting and Gifting
  • Shifting
  • Move earned income from the parent to the child
  • Best done if family has a family business or farm
  • Taxed in a lower bracket of the child
  • Gifting
  • Use appreciated assets like stock
  • Student uses stock sale proceeds to pay for
    college
  • Gains taxed at lower bracket

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Its time to pay for private school.
Private School Years Tax deductions 5,000
standard deduction
  • Parents
  • personal assets
  • compensation
  • from business
  • Child is taxed on
  • Earned income
  • Unearned income

Child
Gift assets and/or pay child
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Private High School
Childs Earned Income 5,000 Childs Std.
Deduction (5,000) Federal Tax due
0
Parents Tax Savings Earned Income 5,000 33
fed/state tax rate 1,650 Tax that parents
avoided 1,650
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Private High School Tax Savings
Income shifted 5,000/year Four
years 20,000 Childs Tax
0 Parents Tax Avoided 6,600
(1,650/yr/4yrs)
Tax savings 8 return 7,500
(1,650/yr/4yrs/_at_8) At End of College
10,200
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The Reality of Paying for College
  • At AGI of 130,000 (joint return)
  • No Hope Credit
  • No Lifetime Learning Credit
  • No Need-Based Financial Aid (rare exceptions)

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Enter the Tax Scholarship
  • Direct wages from family business to child
  • Transfer appreciated property to child
  • Total should be enough to have child provide more
    than ½ their own support

Result Student gets exemption, education credits
and their own standard deduction!!!
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Example College Years 1-2
  • Student selects private college - 33,000 cost
  • Parents pay child 13,000 out of family business
    for office and marketing work
  • Gift 22,000 of low-basis stock to child
  • Child uses cash to pay for college
  • If not transferred to child, parents federal tax
    on all this income approx 6,500
  • Childs tax on the same income is 0

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In College Years 3 and 4
  • Give student a raise to 17,000 of wages
  • Transfer stock to the child as before
  • Parents tax burden if income was left with them
    would be 7,500
  • Childs tax? 0

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Tax Scholarship Summary
  • Total college tax savings per child? 28,000
  • If student attended private school, per my
    example 6,600 additional saved
  • If invested, total savings total approximately
    40,000.per child

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Should I restructure mortgage?
  • Real estate market in region is slowing
  • Is paying down your mortgage such a great idea in
    this environment if you are cash poor?
  • What are you earning on the paydown?

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Why Cant I Just Borrow Against My House?
  • Beware The AMT!!

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Common Questions
  • If my child isnt my dependent, are they no
    longer covered under my benefits?
  • In your example, you didnt include state taxes
    on the child, and what about Social Security
    Taxes?

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Common Questions
  • What kind of work could my child possibly do to
    justify such a large wage?
  • What other things could I pay for using this
    concept?

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Getting The Word Out
  • Public relations-national and local media
  • Local, regional and national seminars
  • Making contacts at independent schools
  • Developing relationships with the Financial Aid
    and Admissions community
  • Asking colleges and universities to consider
    providing this kind of educationto parents!!
  • Parent enrichment at orientation or scheduled
    high school visit days
  • High Schools are off limits due to non-profit
    rules.

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Why should we bother?
  • Marketing value is tremendous
  • Existing clients appreciate the value added
  • Potential new clients have never heard these type
    of ideas..from anyone
  • Even if they dont act on them, they appreciate
    being told that they have choices!!
  • If they do act on them, made the education more
    affordable!!

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What are your questions?
John F. Pearson CPA CCPS Tax and Educational
Strategies 17 Pumpkin Lane Norwalk, Connecticut
06851 203-984-2518 www.johnpearsoncpa.com

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Presenter
  • Mick Endersbe, CHFC, MS
  • President
  • College Planning University, LLC
  • Lakeville, Minnesota

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Traditional College Planning
  • Data-based assumptions are made
  • Time Frames
  • Risk Tolerance
  • Rate of Return
  • Inflation
  • Savings vehicle

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The Problem with Data - Inflation
  • In each of the past four years, tuition has
    increased by 10 percent or more.
  • Minnesota State Colleges and Universities News
    Release, October 20, 2004
  • The Minnesota State Colleges and Universities
    Board of Trustees has capped tuition increases at
    7 percent in the coming year. The decision comes
    after the trustees endured a barrage of student
    complaints about rising college costs during
    recent budget discussions. The cap is a hardship
    for at least 20 of the system's institutions that
    have already budgeted for tuition increases
    higher than that.
  • Minnesota Public Radio, July 21, 2005

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The Problem with Data Rate of Return
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The Problem with Data - Saving
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The Problem with Data My Family
Childs Name Carley Libbey Age 9 9 Years
until college 9 9 Current college
cost 27,969 27,969 Current savings 10,000 1
0,000 Assumed rate/return 9 9 Assumed
inflation rate 7 7 Current monthly
savings 500 500 Additl monthly
needed 797 797
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The Problem with Data Moving targets
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The Problem with Data Well go public.
  • Family Scenario
  • College University of MN TC 16,344
  • Income 70,000
  • Assets (home and IRA NA) 50,000
  • Number of Children 2
  • Ages 17 14
  • EFC 9,375
  • State Grant 0
  • Pell Grant 0
  • Stafford Loan 2,625
  • Parent Responsibility 13,719
  • x 4 years over 55,000

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A Sample Client - Executive
  • 340,000 annual income
  • 600,000 in investments
  • 300,000 in home equity
  • 48 years old
  • 4 talented, hardworking kids
  • Wants his kids to have the opportunity to attend
    Elite schools
  • The elite colleges are running about 44,000 per
    year. How did you plan to pay for college?
    Thats why youre here.

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Tell me about Sara
  • Is there a particular school that you or Sara
    are interested in? Why?
  • How did you think you would pay for XYZ?
  • Well, weve done some.. 60,000
  • We were hoping we would get some help from the
    college.
  • Shes a B plus student with a 29 on her ACT,
    debater
  • Would you send her if she didnt get aid?
  • Because she wont - nor will any of the
    executives kids

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Our Solution
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Real College Financial Planning
  • Done in the context of overall financial planning
  • Complex, moving parts
  • Investment expertise
  • Tax expertise
  • Financial aid expertise?
  • Like all consultants, must be skilled at asking
    questions.

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Do you want their involvement?If so, what would
you like them to do?
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