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Title: If they have got something to say, why cant they just say it in English


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If they have got something to say, why cant they
just say it in English?
  • Mary McKeever

2
Central Tension in Mass HE System (Burton Clarke,
cited in Russell 2002)
3
Academic Literacies
  • WP students experiences of speaking, reading and
    writing before university
  • The challenges they face at university
  • What universities can put in place to help
    students become fluent readers, confident
    speakers and expert writers
  • Literacy experiences of one student

4
Speech development
  • By the age of 5, spoken language is normally
    highly developed with ability to comprehend and
    produce grammatical sentences and a vocabulary of
    3,000 words.
  • A natural part of early human development,
    acquired unconsciously and relatively
    effortlessly. (Kellogg and Whiteford, 2009)

5
Talking and writing at school
  • I didnt go to the best primary school. We did
    reading and things, but we didnt really do any
    pronunciations and anything. When I started in
    Year 7 my form tutor asked me a question and I
    said I aint going and the teacher told me off
    for using aint. And I didnt understand or
    know anything wrong with that. I thought that was
    a valid word, I didnt know any different. But I
    always remember that, and from that, I have
    avoided using that word.

6
Telling me off for being different from how I
wrote
  • I do find I write differently to how I talk. Very
    much. I wouldnt have wrote aint in an essay or
    in a story. So the way I spoke and the way I
    wrote were very different then. She wouldnt have
    picked that up from my essays. It was a telling
    me off for being different from how I wrote, if
    that makes sense. I always enjoyed poetry and
    writing poems but again, the way I would say them
    would probably be different from the way I wrote
    them. And again my family arent academic or in
    any education and I think the way I spoke was who
    I was surrounded by, my environment. Who I am
    writing for is a different environment.

7
Academic speech
  • I felt I couldnt just ask a question the way I
    would ask my friends a question. I felt like I
    have got to try to make this sound academic. For
    example I would say Me and my friend. That is
    what I would say in general everyday language
    but when I was talking to a lecturer I felt I had
    to say Amy and I or Amy and myself. I had to
    stop and think about that. It delayed me asking
    the question. I would have to reword it.

8
Immersion in work talk on placement
  • In my department at Rolls Royce there were all
    these men in suits, ties and shirts. It took me a
    while, but I did have to get into the formal
    meetings and start picking up the language -
    business terms, very technical IT terms. Very
    jargon- based organisation, very much they have
    their own acronyms for things. It was mainly an
    assumption on their part that you already speak
    like that because they are so institutionalised
    in their own way. So they dont see anything
    different, so they expect everybody to speak like
    that.

9
Talking on placement and at university
  • And I think after having the placement, coming
    back to university, not only did I feel I could
    contribute to the lectures, but I felt I had
    something to offer. I felt like a professional.
    Do you know what I mean? When I came back to
    university, I felt I could go and ask questions
    because that is what I would do in a work
    situation. To find out requirements, Id go and
    ask questions. So you learn something from an
    outside environment and you can bring that into
    your university life as well.

10
I havent apologised for my opinion
  • I felt that even if wasn't 100 sure of the
    answer, I could give it and sound convincing and
    not feel embarrassed or go red. I didnt
    apologise for my opinion. I havent apologised
    for my opinion. That has been one of the
    motivating things this year. I asked the
    questions I wanted to ask. I answered how I
    wanted to answer. I didnt let anything stop me.
    I felt it was my true opinion. I didnt try to
    give a text book answer. I would give my unique
    opinion and one thing I liked was when the
    lecturer would reflect and use that further in
    the lecture Based on what Katie said earlier.
    It just gives you that feedback that you are OK,
    that your opinion is valid.

11
The trap of using the wrong word
  • But you need somebody, or I felt I needed
    somebody, to tell me that that word wasnt
    usable. Just learning the grammar and the order
    of words as well. I feel I can still fall into
    that trap of using the wrong word. For me aint
    still has a meaning in an informal setting. My
    sisters will use it and I dont tell them it is
    wrong. It is their language and that is what they
    want to use.

12
Becoming an Expert Writer
  • Writing approximately 25 years of instruction,
    practice and immersion in all aspects of literacy
    practices.
  • Learning a musical instrument mastery of both
    mechanical skills and creative production
  • Expert Violinist 10,000 hours of solitary
    practice vs. amateur 1,500 practice (Kellogg and
    Whiteford, 2009 in press

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Grammar
  • I think the reasons why bits of grammar were
    unclear was because I didnt necessarily have the
    best grammar lessons at school. All I remember is
    that I missed the first week of secondary school
    and they seemed to have covered a lot of the
    grammar in the first week. But my secondary
    school, they picked me up and they did a good
    job. But the only thing they didnt do, because
    of class sizes, they didnt give me the feedback
    I got at university.

15
Writing at college
  • The only writing I did in college was IT and
    graphics, so completely different to essay
    writing. It wasnt since school that I actually
    wrote an essay, a good two years earlier to
    starting university. So I didnt know how to
    approach it, so I just drew a spider diagram with
    the topic in the middle and then branch off all
    my different ideas. I never generally did essay
    plans because I never really saw the value in
    them. I just thought Ive wrote this much, I
    might as well just write the whole essay.

16
How to write assignments
  • To be completely honest, I dont ever remember
    being told about writing as such. You just get
    told what your assignment is and you are expected
    to write it. It is a subconscious thing you
    should already know. You are not told to write in
    a certain way. Some units they say we want a
    logbook or we want it to be size 1, but they
    dont tell you how to write it.

17
Handwriting
  • My handwriting has never been good and it has got
    worse since I have been using computers. I had a
    maths exams and I knew I got enough right for 55
    or 60, but I ended up with 40. Then I though
    back how I wrote in the exam and if it wasnt
    readable. I know I was messy. But just to get
    that feedback, some of it was unreadable and
    unfortunately you failed. That feedback would be
    brilliant because then you could improve. Not
    everyone is going to assume it is their
    handwriting or even consider that that could be
    the problem.

18
Reading and meaning making
  • Invisible, unprobed and unaided at university
    (van Pletzen, 2006 pp. 104-129)
  • General assumption that students can learn
    independently from reading, will understand what
    they read and what they are supposed to get out
    it
  • WP students can fail to learn formal knowledge
    from reading because they have little experience
    of the linguistic orientations that children
    from literate home environments acquire (Rose,
    2004)

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Reading, meaning and the text
  • The meaning does not reside ready-made in the
    text or in the reader but happens or comes into
    being during the transaction between reader and
    text. (Rosenblatt 1994, p. 1063)
  • Readers draw on their cultural capital or
    linguistic-experiential reservoir in speaking,
    listening, writing or reading. (Rosenblatt, 1994,
    p. 1061)

20
Literacy at school
  • I went to a poor middle school. It was very
    multicultural and English tended to be a second
    language and I think that is where the weakness
    stemmed from. I hadn't been taught from a young
    age. I was there for fours years. I would come
    home from school from a young age and you know
    how it is, you come home with books you have to
    read. Some of them would have the other language
    written on them. My reading wasnt very good back
    then, I think they were trying to teach the
    children two different languages at once. I think
    that is where the grammar weakness stemmed from
    because I didnt have 100 concentration on
    English.

21
Link between reading and talking
  • Because when you first read journals it is like
    this barrier until I could speak like that. It is
    not even just the big words that are used, but it
    is the way they write the sentences, putting them
    round the other way as such and of which.
    Those sorts of phrases are put in a different
    way, not the way you would probably say it. Again
    it is written differently to how you would
    pronounce it.

22
Reading in my head out loud
  • Because I tend to read in my head out loud, and I
    am trying to read it out loud in my second year
    and it doesnt make sense but that was before I
    would speak like that. So I think you pick up on
    what you read and you apply that in the way you
    talk without thinking. But that is what I found
    hard and difficult the phrasing of the
    sentences. Because I would read them out and Id
    think that is round the wrong way, it doesnt
    quite make sense to me.

23
Reading as listening outside the tent
  • You tend to read from an outside position. Thats
    the tent. They are all in the tent and you are
    outside it. You are listening in and you are
    trying to grab hold of what they are trying to
    say. But by final year, after reading so many,
    you understand. Because they are all very
    similar in the way they are written, you learn to
    pick out the bits that you actually need. You
    dont need to hear the whole conversation. You
    just need the bits that are relevant for you.

24
Joining the tent
  • Id say Im still outside it until I have
    written. I dont feel Ill be equal to them until
    I have written one because I dont think you can
    really join the tent until you have contributed
    to it. It is something I would really like to do.
    That would finish my journey at university. If I
    could get to that level, write an article of some
    description, something that interests me, and to
    contribute as well, because that would be
    contributing at the highest level really.

25
Key inspirations speaking, reading and writing
  • Elbow, P. (2000) Everyone Can Write. Oxford
    Oxford University Press.
  • Thesen, L. and van Pletzen, E. (2006) Academic
    Literacy and the Languages of Change. London
    Continuum.
  • Kellogg, R.T. and Whiteford, A.P. (2009)
    Training Advanced Writing Skills The Case for
    Deliberate Practice. Educational Psychologist in
    press
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