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Relevant IndicatorsA Cross-Disciplinary
Indexing Tool?
  • Examples from Mythological Thinking
  • Frog
  • University of Helsinki
  • Transcultural Contacts in the Circum-Baltic
    Area
  • 2nd Meeting of the Austmarr Network
  • 8th10th June 2012, Helsinki, Finland

2
Relevant Indicator as a Term
  • Viking Age in Finland project

3
Relevant Indicator as a Term
  • Viking Age in Finland project
  • Proposed by Lassi Heininen
  • Perspective of Geopolitics

4
Relevant Indicator as a Term
  • Viking Age in Finland project
  • Proposed by Lassi Heininen
  • Perspective of Geopolitics
  • Problem of data from diverse disciplines
  • Relating a plurality of data
  • Identifying data as relevant

5
Relevant Indicator as a Term
  • Viking Age in Finland project
  • Proposed by Lassi Heininen
  • Perspective of Geopolitics
  • Problem of data from diverse disciplines
  • Relating a plurality of data
  • Identifying data as relevant
  • An indexing strategy
  • Correlating markers of continuity or change

6
Relevant Indicator as a Term
  • Viking Age in Finland project
  • Proposed by Lassi Heininen
  • Perspective of Geopolitics
  • Problem of data from diverse disciplines
  • Relating a plurality of data
  • Identifying data as relevant
  • An indexing strategy
  • Correlating markers of continuity or change
  • Two benefits
  • Allows ambiguity
  • Specific relevance may remain unresolved
  • Markers may be indicators of several things
    simultaneously

7
Relevant Indicator as a Term
  • Still preliminary
  • Only a few trying to use this as a tool
  • Focus on indicators of change
  • Something different in one period than in another
  • Focus on groups and social processes

8
Relevant Indicator as a Term
  • Still preliminary
  • Only a few trying to use this as a tool
  • Focus on indicators of change
  • Something different in one period than in another
  • Focus on groups and social processes
  • Potential indexing tool for a database
  • Problem of data from diverse disciplines
  • Navigating a plurality of data

9
Relevant Indicator as a Term
  • Still preliminary
  • Only a few trying to use this as a tool
  • Focus on indicators of change
  • Something different in one period than in another
  • Focus on groups and social processes
  • Potential indexing tool for a database
  • Problem of data from diverse disciplines
  • Navigating a plurality of data
  • Three aspect model?
  • Semiotics conceptual systems social practices

10
Relevant Indicator as a Term
  • Still preliminary
  • Only a few trying to use this as a tool
  • Focus on indicators of change
  • Something different in one period than in another
  • Focus on groups and social processes
  • Potential indexing tool for a database
  • Problem of data from diverse disciplines
  • Navigating a plurality of data
  • Three aspect model?
  • Semiotics conceptual systems social practices
  • Diachronic processes systemic models of change
  • Synchronic systems ethnocultural substrata

11
Is Relevant Indicator too Vague?
  • Problems in earlier research
  • Interpretations too concrete and/or absolute
  • Observations in data could still be valid

12
Is Relevant Indicator too Vague?
  • Problems in earlier research
  • Interpretations too concrete and/or absolute
  • Observations in data could still be valid
  • Undeveloped understandings of cultural processes
  • Linguistics / phonetics, material culture,
    folklore, literature

13
Is Relevant Indicator too Vague?
  • Problems in earlier research
  • Interpretations too concrete and/or absolute
  • Observations in data could still be valid
  • Undeveloped understandings of cultural processes
  • Linguistics / phonetics, material culture,
    folklore, literature
  • Ways of thinking about material

14
Is Relevant Indicator too Vague?
  • Problems in earlier research
  • Interpretations too concrete and/or absolute
  • Observations in data could still be valid
  • Undeveloped understandings of cultural processes
  • Linguistics / phonetics, material culture,
    folklore, literature
  • Ways of thinking about material
  • Ideal models versus variation
  • Reconstruction and (anachronistic)
    interpretation

15
Is Relevant Indicator too Vague?
  • Problems in earlier research
  • Interpretations too concrete and/or absolute
  • Observations in data could still be valid
  • Undeveloped understandings of cultural processes
  • Linguistics / phonetics, material culture,
    folklore, literature
  • Ways of thinking about material
  • Ideal models versus variation
  • Reconstruction and (anachronistic)
    interpretation
  • Isolated cultural phenomena from social practices
  • What but not why

16
Is Relevant Indicator too Vague?
  • Problems in earlier research
  • Interpretations too concrete and/or absolute
  • Observations in data could still be valid
  • Undeveloped understandings of cultural processes
  • Linguistics / phonetics, material culture,
    folklore, literature
  • Ways of thinking about material
  • Ideal models versus variation
  • Reconstruction and (anachronistic)
    interpretation
  • Isolated cultural phenomena from social practices
  • What but not why
  • Isolated phenomena from one another
  • Versus cumulative indicators
  • Versus systemic modelling

17
Is Relevant Indicator too Vague?
  • Depends what we want it to do
  • Does not
  • Distinguish indicator as cause, consequence
    or symptom
  • Necessarily define or classify indicator
  • Distinguish indicator as exclusive

18
Is Relevant Indicator too Vague?
  • Depends what we want it to do
  • Does not
  • Distinguish indicator as cause, consequence
    or symptom
  • Necessarily define or classify indicator
  • Distinguish indicator as exclusive
  • Allows (indicator of)
  • Marking as significant without resolution
  • Multiple indexing brooch from Uppåkra

19
Is Relevant Indicator too Vague?
  • Depends what we want it to do
  • Does not
  • Distinguish indicator as cause, consequence
    or symptom
  • Necessarily define or classify indicator
  • Distinguish indicator as exclusive
  • Allows (indicator of)
  • Marking as significant without resolution
  • Multiple indexing brooch from Uppåkra
  • Technology,

20
Is Relevant Indicator too Vague?
  • Depends what we want it to do
  • Does not
  • Distinguish indicator as cause, consequence
    or symptom
  • Necessarily define or classify indicator
  • Distinguish indicator as exclusive
  • Allows (indicator of)
  • Marking as significant without resolution
  • Multiple indexing brooch from Uppåkra
  • Technology, trade,

21
Is Relevant Indicator too Vague?
  • Depends what we want it to do
  • Does not
  • Distinguish indicator as cause, consequence
    or symptom
  • Necessarily define or classify indicator
  • Distinguish indicator as exclusive
  • Allows (indicator of)
  • Marking as significant without resolution
  • Multiple indexing brooch from Uppåkra
  • Technology, trade, economics,

22
Is Relevant Indicator too Vague?
  • Depends what we want it to do
  • Does not
  • Distinguish indicator as cause, consequence
    or symptom
  • Necessarily define or classify indicator
  • Distinguish indicator as exclusive
  • Allows (indicator of)
  • Marking as significant without resolution
  • Multiple indexing brooch from Uppåkra
  • Technology, trade, economics, gender,

23
Is Relevant Indicator too Vague?
  • Depends what we want it to do
  • Does not
  • Distinguish indicator as cause, consequence
    or symptom
  • Necessarily define or classify indicator
  • Distinguish indicator as exclusive
  • Allows (indicator of)
  • Marking as significant without resolution
  • Multiple indexing brooch from Uppåkra
  • Technology, trade, economics, gender,
  • social structures,

24
Is Relevant Indicator too Vague?
  • Depends what we want it to do
  • Does not
  • Distinguish indicator as cause, consequence
    or symptom
  • Necessarily define or classify indicator
  • Distinguish indicator as exclusive
  • Allows (indicator of)
  • Marking as significant without resolution
  • Multiple indexing brooch from Uppåkra
  • Technology, trade, economics, gender,
  • social structures, contacts,

25
Is Relevant Indicator too Vague?
  • Depends what we want it to do
  • Does not
  • Distinguish indicator as cause, consequence
    or symptom
  • Necessarily define or classify indicator
  • Distinguish indicator as exclusive
  • Allows (indicator of)
  • Marking as significant without resolution
  • Multiple indexing brooch from Uppåkra
  • Technology, trade, economics, gender,
  • social structures, contacts, historical
  • continuity,

26
Is Relevant Indicator too Vague?
  • Depends what we want it to do
  • Does not
  • Distinguish indicator as cause, consequence
    or symptom
  • Necessarily define or classify indicator
  • Distinguish indicator as exclusive
  • Allows (indicator of)
  • Marking as significant without resolution
  • Multiple indexing brooch from Uppåkra
  • Technology, trade, economics, gender,
  • social structures, contacts, historical
  • continuity, mythology,

27
Is Relevant Indicator too Vague?
  • Depends what we want it to do
  • Does not
  • Distinguish indicator as cause, consequence
    or symptom
  • Necessarily define or classify indicator
  • Distinguish indicator as exclusive
  • Allows (indicator of)
  • Marking as significant without resolution
  • Multiple indexing brooch from Uppåkra
  • Technology, trade, economics, gender,
  • social structures, contacts, historical
  • continuity, mythology, mythological thinking,

28
Is Relevant Indicator too Vague?
  • Depends what we want it to do
  • Does not
  • Distinguish indicator as cause, consequence
    or symptom
  • Necessarily define or classify indicator
  • Distinguish indicator as exclusive
  • Allows (indicator of)
  • Marking as significant without resolution
  • Multiple indexing brooch from Uppåkra
  • Technology, trade, economics, gender,
  • social structures, contacts, historical
  • continuity, mythology, mythological thinking,
    fashion,

29
Is Relevant Indicator too Vague?
  • Depends what we want it to do
  • Does not
  • Distinguish indicator as cause, consequence
    or symptom
  • Necessarily define or classify indicator
  • Distinguish indicator as exclusive
  • Allows (indicator of)
  • Marking as significant without resolution
  • Multiple indexing brooch from Uppåkra
  • Technology, trade, economics, gender,
  • social structures, contacts, historical
  • continuity, mythology, mythological thinking,
    fashion, etc.

30
Is Relevant Indicator too Vague?
  • Depends what we want it to do
  • Does not
  • Distinguish indicator as cause, consequence
    or symptom
  • Necessarily define or classify indicator
  • Distinguish indicator as exclusive
  • Allows (indicator of)
  • Marking as significant without resolution
  • Multiple indexing brooch from Uppåkra
  • Technology, trade, economics, gender,
  • social structures, contacts, historical
  • continuity, mythology, mythological thinking,
    fashion, etc.
  • Semantic networks and conceptual modelling
  • intersecting with socio-historical processes

31
Problem Lack of Frameworks
  • Etymologies
  • Finnish äiti / Gothic aiþei ON (poetic) eiða
    mother
  • Contacts, social structures not in Karelian
  • Indicator must be placed in relation to others

32
Problem Lack of Frameworks
  • Etymologies
  • Finnish äiti / Gothic aiþei ON (poetic) eiða
    mother
  • Contacts, social structures not in Karelian
  • Indicator must be placed in relation to others
  • Developed models of phonetic history
  • Model can be accurate although no individual case
    is 100 certain

33
Problem Lack of Frameworks
  • Etymologies
  • Finnish äiti / Gothic aiþei ON (poetic) eiða
    mother
  • Contacts, social structures not in Karelian
  • Indicator must be placed in relation to others
  • Developed models of phonetic history
  • Model can be accurate although no individual case
    is 100 certain
  • Modelling systems lacking for other areas of
    cultural expression
  • Different types and levels of signification
  • More complex units

34
Indicators and Change
  • Narrative traditions
  • ATU 1148b Theft of the Thunder-Instrument
  • Baltic, Finnic, Germanic, Sámi (also early Greek)

35
Indicators and Change
  • Narrative traditions
  • ATU 1148b Theft of the Thunder-Instrument
  • Baltic, Finnic, Germanic, Sámi (also early Greek)
  • Culture-specific forms
  • Relates to dominant models of thunder
  • Change outcomes of social negotiation
  • Indicators of social negotiation and its causes

36
Indicators and Change
  • Narrative traditions
  • ATU 1148b Theft of the Thunder-Instrument
  • Baltic, Finnic, Germanic, Sámi (also early Greek)
  • Culture-specific forms
  • Relates to dominant models of thunder
  • Change outcomes of social negotiation
  • Indicators of social negotiation and its causes
  • Only one case cf. äiti

37
Indicators and Change
  • Narrative traditions
  • ATU 1148b Theft of the Thunder-Instrument
  • Baltic, Finnic, Germanic, Sámi (also early Greek)
  • Culture-specific forms
  • Relates to dominant models of thunder
  • Change outcomes of social negotiation
  • Indicators of social negotiation and its causes
  • Only one case cf. äiti
  • Develop and correlate multiple and diverse models
    for each cultures traditions

38
Technologies
  • Iron-working
  • Indicators of significance from folklore
    beleifs, narratives, images, cosmological models
  • Connected with god identified with thunder /
    lightning-weapon

39
Technologies
  • Iron-working
  • Indicators of significance from folklore
    beleifs, narratives, images, cosmological models
  • Connected with god identified with thunder /
    lightning-weapon
  • New Circum-Baltic fire-striker model
  • Oval-shaped stones
  • Technology changes
  • Symbolic world adapts

40
Technologies
  • Iron-working
  • Indicators of significance from folklore
    beleifs, narratives, images, cosmological models
  • Connected with god identified with thunder /
    lightning-weapon
  • New Circum-Baltic fire-striker model
  • Oval-shaped stones
  • Technology changes
  • Symbolic world adapts
  • Unto Salo
  • Vulva-shaped
  • Hieros gamos

41
Developing Indexical Networks
  • Unto Salo
  • Vulva-shaped stones
  • Hieros gamos
  • Thunder responds to female sexuality
  • Fire-striking lightning
  • Indicators form context

42
Developing Indexical Networks
  • Migration Period change in fire-striker symbolics
    (however interpreted)
  • Fire-steel becomes stylized

43
Developing Indexical Networks
  • Migration Period change in fire-striker symbolics
    (however interpreted)
  • Fire-steel becomes stylized
  • Salo argues bow as primary
  • Connects to gods arrow
  • (shape becomes ambiguous)

44
Developing Indexical Networks
  • Migration Period change in fire-striker symbolics
    (however interpreted)
  • Fire-steel becomes stylized
  • Salo argues bow as primary
  • Connects to gods arrow
  • (shape becomes ambiguous)
  • Gods arrow common lightning-weapon
  • Found across Northern Eurasia
  • Not manifest in Germanic / not prominent in
    Baltic (?)
  • Rainbow Gods Bow

45
Developing Indexical Networks
  • Migration Period change in fire-striker symbolics
    (however interpreted)
  • Fire-steel becomes stylized
  • Salo argues bow as primary
  • Connects to gods arrow
  • (shape becomes ambiguous)
  • Gods arrow common lightning-weapon
  • Found across Northern Eurasia
  • Not manifest in Germanic / not prominent in
    Baltic (?)
  • Rainbow Gods Bow
  • Migration Period carried influences from he
    steppe(?)
  • Cannot interpret in isolation

46
Relevant Indicator as Tool
  • Identifying elements as potentially significant
  • Overviews of
  • Networks of symbols, semantics and conceptual
    systems

47
Relevant Indicator as Tool
  • Identifying elements as potentially significant
  • Overviews of
  • Networks of symbols, semantics and conceptual
    systems
  • Contextualizing phenomena

48
Relevant Indicator as Tool
  • Identifying elements as potentially significant
  • Overviews of
  • Networks of symbols, semantics and conceptual
    systems
  • Contextualizing phenomena
  • Patterns in diachronic processes

49
Relevant Indicator as Tool
  • Identifying elements as potentially significant
  • Overviews of
  • Networks of symbols, semantics and conceptual
    systems
  • Contextualizing phenomena
  • Patterns in diachronic processes
  • Synchronic perspectives on different eras

50
Relevant Indicator as Tool
  • Identifying elements as potentially significant
  • Overviews of
  • Networks of symbols, semantics and conceptual
    systems
  • Contextualizing phenomena
  • Patterns in diachronic processes
  • Synchronic perspectives on different eras
  • An indexing tool
  • Considerations for database

51
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