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- What does it take for a person to persist from
one time to anotherthat is, for the same person
to exist at different times? - What sorts of adventures could you possibly
survive, in the broadest sense of the word
possible, and what sort of event would
necessarily bring your existence to an end? - What determines which past or future being is
you? Suppose you point to a child in an old class
photograph and say, That's me. What makes you
that one, rather than one of the others? What is
it about the way she relates then to you as you
are now that makes her you? For that matter, what
makes it the case that anyone at all who existed
back then is you? - This is the question of personal identity over
time. An answer to it is an account of our
persistence conditions, or a criterion of
personal identity over time.
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- Historically this question often arises out of
the hope (or fear) that we might continue to
exist after we diePlato's Phaedo is a famous
example. Whether this could happen depends on
whether biological death necessarily brings one's
existence to an end. - Imagine that after your death there really will
be someone, in the next world or in this one, who
resembles you in certain ways. How would that
being have to relate to you as you are now in
order to be you, rather than someone else? What
would the Higher Powers have to do to keep you in
existence after your death? Or is there anything
they could do? The answer to these questions
depends on the answer to the Persistence
Question.
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- Scientists tell you that instead of having to
travel by rocket, which would take many years,
you can step into their machine here on earth and
(so they claim) step out of a similar machine on
the colonized planet a few hours later. What the
machine does is conduct a complete scan of the
state of every cell in your body, recording all
this information on a computer (the nature of the
scan being such that the cells are all destroyed
by the process). The information is then
transmitted in the form of a radio signal to a
machine on the colonized planet, which will build
a replica of you which is exact right down to the
last details.
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- In the film Here Comes Mr. Jordan, a
prize-fighter is taken to heaven because of a
mistake in the heavenly records. His body has
been crushed beyond repair in a plane crash, and
he demands a new body so that he can continue his
career. He is supplied with another body no one
recognizes him, of course, but his own memories
are intact, and he fulfills his dream of becoming
world champion. All this is fantasy, to be
surebut wouldnt you be as certain as the movie
audience that it is still the same person with a
different body? And even if you werent sure, he
is sureand he knows, doesnt he?
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- Suppose when you awoke this morning your body
looked quite unlike your body of yesterday. You
now have an extra leg and feathers sprouting all
over, and can emit only a few ostrich-like
screeches and no words. Of course, nobody
recognizes you everyone thinks youre someone
(or something) else. But dont you know its
still you, in spite of this unexpected
transformation?
14Numerical identity
- The persistence question is about numerical
identity. To say that this and that are
numerically identical is to say that they are one
and the same one thing rather than two. - This is different from qualitative identity.
Things are qualitatively identical when they are
exactly similar. Identical twins may be
qualitatively identicalthere may be no telling
them apartbut not numerically identical, as
there are two of them thats what makes them
twins.
15- A past or future person need not be, at that past
or future time, exactly like you are now in order
to be youthat is, in order to be numerically
identical with you. You dont remain
qualitatively the same throughout your life. You
change you get bigger or smaller you learn new
things and forget others and so on. So the
question is not what it takes for a past or
future being to be qualitatively just like you,
but what it takes for a past or future being to
be you, as opposed to someone or something other
than you.
16An insidious misunderstanding
- Many people try to state the Persistence Question
like this - (1) Under what possible circumstances is a person
existing at one time identical with a person
existing at another time? - In other words, what does it take for past or
future person to be you? We have a person
existing at one time and a person existing at
another, and the question is what is necessary
and sufficient for them to be one person rather
than two.
17Whats wrong with question (1)?
- Question (1) is NOT the Persistence Question. It
is too narrow. Why? - We may want to know whether you were ever an
embryo or a fetus, or whether you could survive
in an irreversible vegetative state or as a
corpse. These are clearly questions about what it
takes for us to persist, and an account of our
identity over time ought to answer them. - Note that answers to such questions may have
important ethical implications it matters to the
morality of abortion, for instance, whether
something that is an embryo or fetus at one time
can be an adult person at another time, or
whether the adult person is always numerically
different from the fetus.
18Whats wrong with question (1)?
- Many philosophers define person as something
that has certain special mental properties. - Locke, for instance, famously said that a person
is a thinking intelligent being, that has reason
and reflection, and can consider itself as
itself, the same thinking thing, in different
times and places. - Presumably this implies that something is a
person at a given time if and only if it has
those mental properties then. And neurologists
say that early-term foetuses and human beings in
a persistent vegetative state have no mental
properties at all then.
19Whats wrong with question (1)?
- If anything like Locke's definition is right,
such beings as early-term foetuses or human
beings in a persistent vegetative state are not
peoplenot at that time, anyway. - In that case we cannot infer anything about
whether you were once an embryo or could come to
be a vegetable by discovering what it takes for a
past or future person to be you.
20- So rather than Question (1), we ought to ask what
it takes for any past or future being, person or
not, to be you or I - (2) Under what possible circumstances is a person
who exists at one time identical with something
that exists at another time (whether or not it is
a person then)? - This is the Persistence Question.
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9 Historically this question Persistence Question. Science Fiction and Philosophy From Time Travel to Superintelligence,??Susan Schneider,???John Wiley Sons, 2010,ltPersonal Identitygt,??Eric Olson,p.68, ???????46?52?65?????
11 Scientists tell you that instead of ..to the last details. An Introduction to Philosophical Analysis,??John Hospers,???Routledge, 2013,p.192, ???????46?52?65?????
12 In the film Here Comes doesnt he? An Introduction to Philosophical Analysis,??John Hospers,???Routledge, 2013,p.188, ???????46?52?65?????
13 Suppose when you unexpected transformation? An Introduction to Philosophical Analysis,??John Hospers,???Routledge, 2013,p.187-188, ???????46?52?65?????
14 The persistence question what makes them twins. Science Fiction and Philosophy From Time Travel to Superintelligence,??Susan Schneider,???John Wiley Sons, 2010,ltPersonal Identitygt,??Eric Olson,p.72, ???????46?52?65?????
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16 Many people try to state...person rather than two. Science Fiction and Philosophy From Time Travel to Superintelligence,??Susan Schneider,???John Wiley Sons, 2010,ltPersonal Identitygt,??Eric Olson,p.73, ???????46?52?65?????
17 Question (1) is NOT ...from the fetus. Science Fiction and Philosophy From Time Travel to Superintelligence,??Susan Schneider,???John Wiley Sons, 2010,ltPersonal Identitygt,??Eric Olson,p.73, ???????46?52?65?????
18 Many philosophers define...at all then. Science Fiction and Philosophy From Time Travel to Superintelligence,??Susan Schneider,???John Wiley Sons, 2010,ltPersonal Identitygt,??Eric Olson,p.73, ???????46?52?65?????
19 If anything like Locke's...person to be you. Science Fiction and Philosophy From Time Travel to Superintelligence,??Susan Schneider,???John Wiley Sons, 2010,ltPersonal Identitygt,??Eric Olson,p.73, ???????46?52?65?????
20 So rather than...Persistence Question. Science Fiction and Philosophy From Time Travel to Superintelligence,??Susan Schneider,???John Wiley Sons, 2010,ltPersonal Identitygt,??Eric Olson,p.73, ???????46?52?65?????