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Title: een fysicus over de kosmos, de aarde en het leven


1
een fysicus over de kosmos, de aarde en het leven
  • Dr. Ard Louis
  • Department of Physics
  • University of Oxford
  • www.cis.org.uk
  • www.faraday-institute.org
  • www.cpgrad.org.uk

2
Botsende culturen?
  • Christelijke subculturen
  • Wetenschapelijke subculteren
  • cultuur ligt vaak onder de oppervlakte

Woorden Gewoonten Tradities Gedrag Geloof Waarden
Aanamen
Mijn argument Much of the tension between
evolution and faith is due to unrecognized
cultural assumptions
3
Beginnen met de Bijbel
  • Bijbel aan de grondslag van mijn leven
  • Ik ben classiek evangelisch/charismatisch in mijn
    Bijbel interpretatie en praxis
  • Wetenschap heeft een dienende relatie, geen gezag
    kan b.v. helpen met interpretatie
  • Henri Blocher In the Beginning IVP (1984) p 25
  • Nooit ons wereldbeeld boven de Bijbel
  • B.v. Copernicus/Galileo en Aristoteles

4
  • Culturele verschillen
  • Metaphoren zijn belangrijk
  • Toeval etc
  • Antropomorphisatie (survival of the fittest)
  • Waarom een groot verschil tussen Christelijke
    profesioneele wetenschappers en leken?
  • Wetenschappelijk bewijs met tapijt argumenten

5
Biologische self-assembly
  • http//www.npn.jst.go.jp/ Keiichi Namba, Osaka
  • Biologische systemen self-assemble (ze vormen
    zichzelf)
  • Kunnen we dat begrijpen?
  • Kunnen we het nabootsen? (Nanotechnologie)

6
Virus self-assembly
viruses
T1
T3
11/3/2020
7
Self-assembly van computer virusen
Computer virusen?
Monte-Carlo simulaties stochastische
optimalisatie http//www-thphys.physics.ox.ac.uk/u
ser/IainJohnson/
8
Self-assembly met lego?
9
Eiwitten en het Paradox van Levinthal
Levinthal Paradox 150 amino acids 10 angles
between them 10150 different states. How does
protein find its folded native structure?
CULTUUR VERSCHIL Physici/Chemici/Ingenieurs
vinden dit belangrijk Biologen niet zo belangrijk
we used same design principles to make viruses
self-assemble
10
Biologicsche self-assembly
Als we het niet zouden zien zouden argumenten er
tegen sterk lijken(Levinthal) onmogenlijkheids
argumenten hebben weinig success in de biologie
11
Hoe interpreteren we de natuur?Natuur Theologie
  • Paley Newman Barth ..
  • The fundamental thesis of the book is that if
    nature is to disclose the transcendent, it must
    be "seen" or "read" in certain specific ways --
    ways that are not themselves necessarily mandated
    by nature itself. It is argued that Christian
    theology provides a schema or interpretative
    framework by which nature may be "seen" in a way
    that enables and authorizes it to connect with
    the transcendent.
  • --- A. McGrath p x about "the Open Secret"

12
Wonderlijke toepasselijkheid van de taal van de
wiskunde
Quantum Mechanics Relativity Antimatter

Paul Dirac 1902-1984
Zie ook The applicability of mathematics as a
philosophical problem, Mark Steiner HUP (1998)
"The Unreasonable Effectiveness of Mathematics in
the Natural Sciences," in Communications in Pure
and Applied Mathematics, vol. 13, No. I (February
1960), Eugene Wigner
13
Wij zijn gemaakt van sterrenstof He C
via een resonancie
  • A common sense interpretation of the facts
    suggests that a superintellect has monkeyed with
    physics .. and biology
  • His atheism was deeply shaken

Sir Fred Hoyle, Cambridge U
14
Tapijt argumenten
  • Wetenschap als een tapijt
  • --de kracht ligt niet aan één enkele draad maar
    aan het geheel en hoe ze zijn zamengewoven.
  • Je kunt aan een paar draadtjes trekken, maar
    daardoor breek je het tapijt niet.

The Golemization of Relativity, David Mermin,
Physics Today 49, p11 April 1996
.
Ik geloof net zo in het christendom als dat ik
geloof dat de zon is opgegaan niet alleen omdat
ik hem zie, maar omdat dit mij in staat stelt om
al het andere te zien C.S. Lewis, Theology as
Poetry in The Weight of Glory,
15
Natuurgeschiedenis
  • Grootheid van God
  • het universum
  • 100 miljard stellenstelsels, met elk 100 miljard
    sterren
  • De hemel verhaalt van Gods majesteit - Psalm 19
  • Wat is de mens? Psalm 8

In our galaxy there are 100,000 million stars,
like our sun. our galaxy is one of 100,000
million galaxies. In a throwaway line in Genesis,
the writer tells us, "he also made the stars" ..
Gen 116
16
Natuurgeschiedenis
  • Grootheid van God
  • Analoog aan het universum
  • Ruimte ? ? tijd
  • 24 uurige aarde je leven 1 milliseconde
  • De hemel verhaalt van Gods majesteit - Psalm 19
  • Wat is de mens? Psalm 8

17
Natuurgeschiedenis
  • EMOTIONEEL DEBAT ? Determineert waar we vandaan
    komen wie we zijn en hoe we zouden moeten leven?

18
Intermezzo het vertroebelend woord Evolutie
  • 1) Evolutie as Natuurgeschiedenis
  • De aarde is oud(/- 4.5 Billion years)
  • Complexere levensvormen volgen op simplere
    levensvormen
  • 2) Evolutie as a mechanisme voor biologische
    complexiteit
  • Mutaties en natuurlijke selectie
  • (note Christenen zijn het er over eens dat God
    dit geschapen heeft)
  • micorevolutie, immuunsysteem etc
  • 3) Evolutie als wereldbeeld (evolutionisme)
  • George Gaylord Simpson
  • "De mens is het resultaat van een doelloos
    en natuurlijk proces dat hem niet heeft bedoeld.
    Hij is niet gepland.
  • of Richard Dawkins
  • "Darwin maakt het mogelijk om intellectueel
    vervulde atheist te zijn.
  • Zie ook Bas Haring, Midas Dekkers, etc..

19
Tapijt argumenten case study 1 een oude aarde ?
  • Science is a tapestry -- you can pick at a few
    strings, but that doesnt break the whole cloth
  • Radiometric dating (many overlapping isotopes)
  • ice cores
  • up to 8000 years -- volcanoes like Vesuvius
  • up to 740,000 years
  • Milankovitch cycles
  • Tree rings
  • All these methods (when used properly) agree.
    There is no scientific controversy
  • http//www.asa3.org/ASA/resources/Wiens.html

20
Tapijt argument een oude aarde ?
Milankovitch Cycles here seen in 420,000 years
of ice core data from Vostok, Antarctica
research station.
21
Common descent in biology?
Page from Darwin's notebooks circa1837 showing
his first known sketch of an evolutionary tree
depicting common descent.
22
Case study 2 evolution of horses
Can sound like weak inductive reasoning to many
physical scientists
23
Case study 3 common descent of human chimp?
  • Divergence of the chimpanzee and human lineages
    occurred about 6 million years ago the times of
    lineage divergence are not to scale
  • News Views The chimpanzee and us, Wen-Hsiung
    Li and Matthew A. Saunders, Nature 437, 50-51
    (1September 2005) .

24
tapestry arguments in biology chromosomal
banding
Humans have 46 (2 X 23) chromosomes Apes have 48
(2 X 24) chromosomes
chromosome 2 Human, Chimp, Gorilla, Orang-utan
  • The origin of man a chromosomal pictorial
    legacy. J.J Yunis and O. Prakash, Science 215,
    1525 (1982)

25
tapestry arguments in biology fusion of
chromosome 2?
chromosome 2 Human, Chimp, Gorilla, Orang-utan
26
tapestry arguments in biology evidence from
the human genome
Chromosome 2 is unique to the human lineage of
evolution, having emerged as a result of
head-to-head fusion of two acrocentric
chromosomes that remained separate in other
primates. The precise fusion site has been
located in 2q13-2q14.1 (ref. 2
hg16114,455,823-114,455,838), where our analysis
confirmed the presence of multiple subtelomeric
duplications to chromosomes 1, 5, 8, 9, 10, 12,
19, 21 and 22 (Fig. 3 Supplementary Fig. 3a,
region A). During the formation of human
chromosome 2, one of the two centromeres became
inactivated (2q21, which corresponds to the
centromere from chimp chromosome 13) and the
centromeric structure quickly deterioriated 42.
Generation and annotation of the DNA sequences of
human chromosomes 2 and 4, L.W. Hillier et al.,
Nature 434, 724 (2005).
27
endogenous retroviruses
HERV-K insertions
  • In humans endogenous retrovirus sequences make up
    about 1 of the genome.
  • Lebedev, Y. B., et al. (2000) "Differences in
    HERV-K LTR insertions in orthologous loci of
    humans and great apes." Gene 247 265-277.

28
tapestry arguments in biology more threads of
evidence
  • Genetic threads
  • SINEs (Alu )
  • LINEs
  • Retroviral insertions
  • pseudo genes (e.g. olefaction)
  • chromosomal inversions
  • Phenotypal similarities
  • Fossils

29
Tapestry arguments in biology
  • The tapestry for do humans and chimpanzees share
    a common ancestor? seems to most biologists to be
    unbreakably strong

For some physicists, mathematicians and
engineers -- these arguments may still seem
foreign and vague It doesnt smell like the
scientific method they are familiar with -- for
example where is the repeatability? What is the
predictive power of these arguments? Where are
the numbers?
30
  • TERUGBLIK
  • Tapijt argumenten
  • Vaak moeilijk voor een leek om goed in te
    schatten
  • Verschillen van discipline tot discipline
  • Biologen (ook Christelijke) geloven in de
    evolutie (type 1 2) omdat tapijt argumenten
    daarvoor sterk zijn.
  • Er blijven uiteraard nog veel vragen over details.

VOLGENDE VRAAG Hoe zit het dan met de Bijbel en
Genesis 12
31
Newton en de planeten
  • De planeet banen zijn onstabiel God hervormd
    ze
  • Sir Isaac Newton

32
Leibnitz werpt tegen
  • als God de gebreken van zijn schepping moest
    herstellen, dit zeker afbreuk zou doen aan zijn
    ambachtelijke vaardigheid
  • John Hedley Brooke, Science and Religion, CUP
    1991, p147

33
Leibnitz werpt tegen
  • En ik houd vol dat God, als hij wonderen
    verricht, dat niet doet om in de behoeften van de
    natuur te voorzien, maar in die van de genade. En
    wie anders denkt moet noodzakelijk een lage dunk
    hebben van de wijsheid en macht van God
  • -- geen God van de gaten!

34
God van de gaten?
  • We begrijpen iets niet --gt God in het gat van
    onze kennis
  • When we come to the scientifically unknown, our
    correct policy is not to rejoice because we have
    found God it is to become better scientists
  • Prof. Charles Coulson, Oxford U

35
Meer Intermezzos?
  • Bijbelse taal
  • jaagt God voor de Leeuwen? (Job 38, Ps 104)?
  • Secondaire en Primaire oorzaken
  • Natuurwetten beschrijven het gewone handelen
    van God?
  • Denkpatronen over wetenschap en geloof
  • Nietsandersdanisme
  • Mechanisme en betekenis
  • Wetenschapisme
  • God van de gaten

36
Dawkins en atheisme van de gaten?
  • "The individual organism ... is not fundamental
    to life, but something that emerges when genes,
    which at the beginning of evolution were
    separate, warring entities, gang together in
    co-operative groups as "selfish co-operators".
    The individual organism is not exactly an
    illusion. It is too concrete for that. But it is
    a secondary, derived phenomenon, cobbled together
    as a consequence of the actions of fundamentally
    separate, even warring agents.
  • From Richard Dawkins, Unweaving the Rainbow,
    (Penguin, London, 1998) p 308.

Prof. Richard Dawkins (Oxford)
37
Gene language
  • Genes are trapped in huge colonies, locked
    inside highly intelligent beings, moulded by the
    outside world, communicating with it by complex
    processes, through which, blindly, as if by
    magic, function emerges. They are in you and me
    we are the system that allows their code to be
    read and their preservation is totally dependent
    on the joy that we experience in reproducing
    ourselves. We are the ultimate rationale for
    their existence.
  • Genes swarm in huge colonies, safe inside
    gigantic lumbering robots, sealed off from the
    outside world, communicating with it by tortuous
    indirect routes, manipulating it by remote
    control. They are in you and me they created us,
    body and mind and their preservation is the
    ultimate rationale for our existence.
  • Denis Noble --
  • The Music of Life Biology Beyond the Genome (OUP
    2006)
  • Richard Dawkins --
  • The Selfish Gene (1976)

38
Natuurgeschiedenis
  • EMOTIONEEL DEBAT ? Determineert waar we vandaan
    komen wie we zijn en hoe we zouden moeten leven?

39
Intermezzo het woord Evolutie
  • 1) Evolutie as Natuurgeschiedenis
  • De aarde is oud(/- 4.5 Billion years)
  • Complexere levensvormen volgen op simplere
    levensvormen
  • 2) Evolutie as a mechanisme voor biologische
    complexiteit
  • Mutaties en natuurlijke selectie
  • (note Christenen zijn het er over eens dat God
    dit geschapen heeft)
  • micorevolutie, immuunsysteem etc
  • 3) Evolutie als wereldbeeld (evolutionisme)
  • George Gaylord Simpson
  • "De mens is het resultaat van een doelloos
    en natuurlijk proces dat hem niet heeft bedoeld.
    Hij is niet gepland.
  • of Richard Dawkins
  • "Darwin maakt het mogelijk om intellectueel
    vervulde atheist te zijn.
  • Zie ook Bas Haring, Midas Dekkers, etc..

40
Metaforen Toeval of Stochastisch?
  • Random mutations and natural selection...
  • Stochastic (Monte Carlo) optimisation
  • e.g. used to price your stock portfolio .....

41
Lego blocks or clay?
  • Evo-Devo Lego Blocks
  • pax6
  • sonic-hedgehog
  • shaven-baby
  • tinman
  • Endless Forms Most Beautiful The New Science of
    Evo Devo and the Making of the Animal Kingdom.
    S.B. Carroll (Blackwell Science 2005)

42
Why so few genes?
Mycoplasma genitalium (483) (300 minimum?)
E.coli (5416)
S. cerevisiae (5800)
Drosophila Melanogaster (13,500)
C. elegans (19,500) P. pacificus (29,000)
H. sapiens (23,000)
43
Why so few genes?
We share 15 of our genes with E. coli
25 yeast
50 flies
70 frogs
98 chimps
44
Gene language
Why are there so few genes? complexity comes
from the interactions gene networks systems
biology
transcriptional network for yeast Saccharomyces
cerevisiae
45
Gene language
  • Genes are trapped in huge colonies, locked
    inside highly intelligent beings, moulded by the
    outside world, communicating with it by complex
    processes, through which, blindly, as if by
    magic, function emerges. They are in you and me
    we are the system that allows their code to be
    read and their preservation is totally dependent
    on the joy that we experience in reproducing
    ourselves. We are the ultimate rationale for
    their existence.
  • Denis Noble --
  • The Music of Life Biology Beyond the Genome (OUP
    2006)
  • Genes swarm in huge colonies, safe inside
    gigantic lumbering robots, sealed off from the
    outside world, communicating with it by tortuous
    indirect routes, manipulating it by remote
    control. They are in you and me they created us,
    body and mind and their preservation is the
    ultimate rationale for our existence.
  • Richard Dawkins --
  • The Selfish Gene (1976)

46
Contingency v.s.deep structures Re-run the
tape of evolution?
When you examine the tapestry of evolution you
see the same patterns emerging over and over
again. Gould's idea of rerunning the tape of life
is not hypothetical it's happening all around
us. And the result is well known to biologists
evolutionary convergence. When convergence is the
rule, you can rerun the tape of life as often as
you like and the outcome will be much the same.
Convergence means that life is not only
predictable at a basic level it also has a
direction. Simon Conway Morris Life's Solution
Inevitable Humans in a Lonely Universe (CUP,
2003)
47
Convergent Evolution?
Convergent evolution in mechanical design of
lamnid sharks and tunas Jeanine M. Donley, et al.
Nature 429, 61-65 (6 May 2004)
48
Convergent Evolution
  • North America
  • Placental Sabre-toothed cat
  • South America
  • Marsupial Sabre-toothed cat

49
Convergent Evolution
compound eye
camera eye
50
Convergent Evolution?
  • Enormous number of examples ... from proteins to
    vision up to societies to intelligence.
  • Are rational conscious beings an inevitable
    outcome?

51
  • TERUGBLIK
  • Metaforen zijn belangrijk
  • toeval v.s. kansprocess
  • genen taal etc..
  • Er is nog veel te ondekken
  • Atheisme van de gaten?

VOLGENDE VRAAG Waarom de sterke consensus onder
biologen dat de evolutie waar is?
52
Tapijt argumenten
  • Wetenschap als een tapijt
  • --de kracht ligt niet aan één enkele draad maar
    aan het geheel en hoe ze zijn zamengewoven.
  • Je kunt aan een paar draadtjes trekken, maar
    daardoor breek je het tapijt niet.

The Golemization of Relativity, David Mermin,
Physics Today 49, p11 April 1996
.
53
Wonderlijke toepasselijkheid van de taal van de
wiskunde
Quantum Mechanics Relativity Antimatter

See also The applicability of mathematics as a
philosophical problem, Mark Steiner HUP
(1998) "The Unreasonable Effectiveness of
Mathematics in the Natural Sciences," in
Communications in Pure and Applied Mathematics,
vol. 13, No. I (February 1960), Eugene Wigner
54
Wetenschap en Schoonheid
A Scientist does not study nature because it is
useful he studies it because he delights in it,
and he delights in it because it is beautiful. If
nature were not beautiful, it would not be worth
knowing, and if nature were not worth knowing,
life would not be worth living.
Henri Poincaré 1854 1912
55
Tapijt argument een oude aarde ?
  • Science is a tapestry -- you can pick at a few
    strings, but that doesnt break the whole cloth
  • Radiometric dating (many overlapping isotopes)
  • ice cores
  • up to 8000 years -- volcanoes like Vesuvius
  • up to 740,000 years
  • Milankovitch cycles
  • Tree rings
  • All these methods (when used properly) agree.
    There is no scientific controversy
  • http//www.asa3.org/ASA/resources/Wiens.html

56
Tapijt argument een oude aarde ?
Milankovitch Cycles here seen in 420,000 years
of ice core data from Vostok, Antarctica
research station.
57
Tapijt argument gezamelijke afstamming Mens en
Chimpanzee?
  • Divergence of the chimpanzee and human lineages
    occurred about 6 million years ago the times of
    lineage divergence are not to scale
  • News Views The chimpanzee and us, Wen-Hsiung
    Li and Matthew A. Saunders, Nature 437, 50-51
    (1September 2005) .

58
tapestry arguments in biology chromosomal
banding
Humans have 46 (2 X 23) chromosomes Apes have 48
(2 X 24) chromosomes
chromosome 2 Human, Chimp, Gorilla, Orang-utan
  • The origin of man a chromosomal pictorial
    legacy. J.J Yunis and O. Prakash, Science 215,
    1525 (1982)

59
tapestry arguments in biology fusion of
chromosome 2?
chromosome 2 Human, Chimp, Gorilla, Orang-utan
60
tapestry arguments in biology evidence from
the human genome
Chromosome 2 is unique to the human lineage of
evolution, having emerged as a result of
head-to-head fusion of two acrocentric
chromosomes that remained separate in other
primates. The precise fusion site has been
located in 2q13-2q14.1 (ref. 2
hg16114455823-114455838), where our analysis
confirmed the presence of multiple subtelomeric
duplications to chromosomes 1, 5, 8, 9, 10, 12,
19, 21 and 22 (Fig. 3 Supplementary Fig. 3a,
region A). During the formation of human
chromosome 2, one of the two centromeres became
inactivated (2q21, which corresponds to the
centromere from chimp chromosome 13) and the
centromeric structure quickly deterioriated 42.
Generation and annotation of the DNA sequences of
human chromosomes 2 and 4, L.W. Hillier et al.,
Nature 434, 724 (2005).
61
endogenous retroviruses
HERV-K insertions
  • In humans endogenous retrovirus sequences make up
    about 1 of the genome.
  • Lebedev, Y. B., et al. (2000) "Differences in
    HERV-K LTR insertions in orthologous loci of
    humans and great apes." Gene 247 265-277.

62
tapestry arguments in biology more threads of
evidence
  • Genetic threads
  • SINEs (Alu )
  • LINEs
  • Retroviral insertions
  • pseudo genes (e.g. olefaction)
  • chromosomal inversions
  • Phenotypal similarities
  • Fossils
  • The tapestry for do humans and chimpanzees share
    a common ancestor? seems to most biologists
    almost unbreakably strong

for physicists, mathematicians and engineers --
these arguments may still seem foreign and vague
where is the proof?, how do you know? -- so
communities talk past each other
63
tapestry arguments in biology
  • But others biologists, I soon came to realize,
    regarded logical arguments as suspect. To them,
    experimental evidence, fallible as it might be,
    provided a far surer avenue to truth than did
    mathematical reasoning. .... Their implicit
    assumption seemed to be How could one know ones
    assumptions were correct? Where, in a purely
    deductive argument, was there room for the
    surprises that nature might offer, for mechanisms
    that might depart altogether from those imagined
    in our initial assumptions? Indeed for some
    biologists, the gap between empirical and logical
    necessity loomed so large as to make the latter
    seem effectively irrelevant.
  • Evelyn Fox Keller, in Making Sense of Life
    Explaining Biological Development with Models,
    Metaphors, and Machines, HUP, (2002)

You cant ask those kinds of questions!!!! (Biolog
ist to AAL at Protein-Protein Interaction
Conf, June 2004) Where are the equations -- a
physicist might ask
64
Tapestry arguments
  • Basic scientific principles are shared across
    fields
  • But what is considered necessary or
    sufficient for a (self-organised) tapestry
    varies from field to field (often unwritten)
  • cultural iceberg, above and below waterline
  • evidence grant or paper review
  • demarkation problems
  • mathematics-gtphysics-gtchemistry-gtbiology-gtmedicine
    -gtengineering
  • Differences --in spite of apparent epistemic
    laxity ... it still works!
  • Christian evaluation needs communities of scholars

65
  • TERUGBLIK
  • Tapijt argumenten
  • Vaak moeilijk voor een leek om goed in te
    schatten
  • Verschillen van discipline tot discipline
  • Biologen (ook Christelijke) geloven in de
    evolutie (type 1 2) omdat tapijt argumenten
    daarvoor sterk zijn.
  • Er blijven uiteraard nog veel vragen over details.

VOLGENDE VRAAG Hoe zit het dan met de Bijbel en
Genesis 12
66
Bijbels of cultureel?
67
Wat is de genre?
  • Genesis 1-23
  • Phrases that occur 10 times
  • 10 times God said (3 for mankind, 7 for other
    creatures)
  • 10 times creative commands (3 x let there be
    for heavenly creatures, 7 x let for world
    below)
  • 10 x To make
  • 10 x According to their kind
  • Phrases that occur 7 times (heptads)
  • and it was so
  • and God saw that it was good
  • Genesis 12-3
  • Phrases that occur 3 times
  • God blessed
  • God created
  • God created men and women
  • Other numerical patterns
  • Intro 11-2 contains 21 words (3 x 7) and
    conclusion (2 1-3) contains 35 words (5 X 7)
  • Earth is mentioned 21 times and God 35 times
  • -- see e.g. H. Blocher In the Beginning, p 33
    or E. Lucas Can We Believe Genesis Today , p 97

68
Wat is de genre?
FRAMEWORK VIEW
  • SHAPED
  • Day 1
  • The separation of light and darkness
  • Day 2
  • The separation of the waters to form the sky and
    the sea
  • Day 3
  • The separation of the sea from dry land and
    creation of plants
  • INHABITED
  • Day 4
  • The creation of the lights to rule the day and
    the night
  • Day 5
  • The creation of the birds and fish to fill the
    sky and sea
  • Day 6
  • The creation of the animals and humans to fill
    the land and eat the plants

Day 7 The heavens and earth were finished
and God rested
69
Wat is de genre?
  • Gen24-7 -- more patterns
  • These are the generations
  • of the heavens
  • and the earth
  • when they were created
  • in the day that the Lord God made
  • the earth
  • and the heavens.
  • Chiastic structure (C. John Collins, Genesis 1-4
    PR (2006))
  • When no bush of the field was yet in the
    land and no small plant of the field had yet
    sprung upfor the Lord God had not caused it to
    rain on the land, and there was no man to work
    the ground, and a mist was going up from the
    land and was watering the whole face of the
    ground then the Lord God formed the man of dust
    from the ground and breathed into his nostrils
    the breath of life, and the man became a living
    creature.
  • A completely different emphasis!

70
Wat is de genre?
  • More like Revelation than like Luke
  • But very clear in its teaching e.g.
  • God created the world
  • Creation is good
  • I Tim 4 1The Spirit clearly says that in later
    times some will abandon the faith and follow
    deceiving spirits and things taught by demons. 2
    Such teachings come through hypocritical liars,
    whose consciences have been seared as with a hot
    iron. 3 They forbid people to marry and order
    them to abstain from certain foods, which God
    created to be received with thanksgiving by those
    who believe and who know the truth. 4 For
    everything God created is good, and nothing is to
    be rejected if it is received with thanksgiving,
    5 because it is consecrated by the word of God
    and prayer.

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Wat is de genre?
  • More like Revelation than like Luke?
  • But very clear in its teaching e.g.
  • God created the world
  • Creation is good
  • Man is made in Gods image
  • Mankind (adam) has fallen into sin
  • A promise of redemption (seed of woman)
  • MANY! More things
  • No problems with perspecuity on doctrine

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Wat is de genre?
  • Is it chronological?
  • "Now what man of intelligence will believe that
    the first and the second and the third day
    existed without the sun and moon and stars?
  • Origen 185 - 254 First Principles, 4.3
  • On this subject there are three main views.
    According to the first, some wish to understand
    paradise only in a material way. According to
    the second, others wish to take it only in a
    spiritual way. According to the third, others
    understand it both ways, taking some things
    materially and others spiritually. If I may
    briefly mention my own opinion, I prefer the
    third
  • Augustine of Hippo (354-430) De Gen. ad litt
    VIII, 1. (on the literal interpretation of
    Genesis)

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Jewish Commentators
  • the sages agree that the creation of this earth
    and sky was a single divine event and not a
    series of distinct occurrences spread out over
    six or seven days
  • N.M. Samuelson, Judaism and the Doctrine of
    Creation, CUP (1994) p115
  • The text does not point to the order of the
    acts of creation the text does not by any
    means teach which things were created first and
    which later it only wants to teach us what was
    the condition of things at the time when heaven
    and earth were created, namely, that the earth
    was without form and a confused mass
  • Rashi (1040-1105), Commentary on Genesis
  • Many more examples, e.g. Maimonides (1135-1204)
    etc

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Wat is de genre?
  • Strong internal hints at elevated prose, more
    like Revelation than like Luke
  • Two separate narratives (tablets)
  • Numerical patterns
  • Thematic patterns
  • A common understanding of church fathers, early
    Jewish commentators and early Evangelical
    leaders.
  • Main theological teachings are crystal clear
    (perspicuity)
  • Physical interpretation less so -- there science
    can take a servant role and help you decide.
  • We must be very careful not to import our own
    cultural biases into interpretation

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Bijbel en Wetenschap
  • De wetenschap een knechtenrol voor Bijbel
    interpretatie
  • The Bible must not be placed under any other
    authority! no authority, even one at the apex of
    the scientific world, may impose his authority on
    the Bible in order to dictate how it is to be
    understood, even with the best intentions.
  • Instead of an authority, however, a ministerial,
    servant-role apears possible. .. The knowledge
    derived from the observation of reality
    (science) would help us to understand the
    language of the Bible better.
  • Henri Blocher In the Beginning IVP (1984) p 25

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AsideEmergence of Humans?
e.g. at what age is a child spiritually
responsible to God? John Stott on Homos Divinus
  • Advice from C.S. Lewis
  • When the author of Genesis says that God made man
    in His own image, he may have pictured a vaguely
    corporeal God making man as a child makes a
    figure out of plasticine. A modern Christian
    philosopher may think of the process lasting from
    the first creation of matter to the final
    appearance on this planet for an organism fit to
    receive spiritual as well as biological life.
    Both mean essentially the same thing. Both are
    denying the same thing -- the doctrine that
    matter by some blind power inherent in itself has
    produced spirituality.
  • (C.S. Lewis, God in the Dock Eerdmans (1970), p
    46)

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Advice from Billy Graham
  • "I don't think that there's any conflict at all
    between science today and the Scriptures. I think
    that we have misinterpreted the Scriptures many
    times and we've tried to make the Scriptures say
    things they weren't meant to say, I think that we
    have made a mistake by thinking the Bible is a
    scientific book. The Bible is not a book of
    science. The Bible is a book of Redemption, and
    of course I accept the Creation story. I believe
    that God did create the universe. I believe that
    God created man, and whether it came by an
    evolutionary process and at a certain point He
    took this person or being and made him a living
    soul or not, does not change the fact that God
    did create man. ... whichever way God did it
    makes no difference as to what man is and man's
    relationship to God.
  • - Billy Graham quoted by David Frost
  • Source Book - Billy Graham Personal Thoughts of
    a Public Man (1997, p. 72-74)

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Samenvatting
  • Complexe materie!
  • Evolutie als
  • Natuurgeschiedenis
  • Mechanisme om biologische complexiteit te maken
  • Wereldbeeld (evolutionisme)
  • Metaforen zijn belangrijk
  • Mechanismen van evolutie kunnen mooi zijn
  • Tapijt argumenten en de consensus onder
    wetenschappers omtrent Evolutie 12
  • Bijbel interpretatie belangrijk om goed naar
    genre te kijken.

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Writers of the Fundamentals
  • One of the original Fundamentalists
  • There is not a word in the Bible to indicate that
    in its view death entered the animal world as a
    consequence of the Sin of man.
  • When you say there is the six days and the
    question whether those days are meant to be
    measured by the twenty-four hours of the suns
    revolution around the earth -- I speak of these
    things popularly. It is difficult to see how
    they should be so measured when the sun that is
    to measure them is not introduced until the
    fourth day. Do not think that this larger
    reading of the days is a new speculation. You
    find Augustine in early times declaring that it
    is hard or altogether impossible to say what
    fashion these days are, and Thomas Aquinas, in
    the middle ages, leaving the matter an open
    question.

James Orr 1844-1913
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The Bible and Science
  • The lesson of Galileo, , should remind us that
    careful observation of the natural world can
    cause us to go back to Scripture and reexamine
    whether Scripture actually teaches what we think
    it teaches. Sometimes, on closer examination of
    the text, we may find that our previous
    interpretations were incorrect.
  • Wayne Grudem, Systematic Theology IVP (1994) p
    273

Wayne Grudem
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The Bible is not a science textbook
  • The whole point of scripture is to bring us to a
    knowledge of Christ --- and having come to know
    him (and all that this implies), we should come
    to a halt and not expect to learn more.
    Scripture provides us with spectacles through
    which we may view the world as Gods creation and
    self-expression it does not, and was never
    intended, to provide us with an infallible
    repository of astronomical and medical
    information.

John Calvin 1509-1564
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Advice from Schaefer
  • We must take ample time, and sometimes this will
    mean a long time, to consider whether the
    apparent clash between science and revelation
    means that the theory set forth by science is
    wrong or whether we must reconsider what we
    thought the Bible says.
  • Francis Schaefer

Francis Schaefer 1912-1984
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Warfield on evolution
  • B. B. Warfield (1851-1921). A biblical
    inerrantist as evolutionist. Livingstone DN, Noll
    MA, 1 Isis. 2000 Jun91(2)283-304.
  • The theological doctrine of biblical
    inerrancy is the intellectual basis for modern
    creation science. Yet Benjamin Breckinridge
    Warfield of Princeton Theological Seminary, the
    theologian who more than any other defined modern
    biblical inerrancy, was throughout his life open
    to the possibility of evolution and at some
    points an advocate of the theory. Throughout a
    long career Warfield published a number of major
    papers on these subjects, including studies of
    Darwin's religious life, on the theological
    importance of the age of humanity (none) and the
    unity of the human species (much), and on
    Calvin's understanding of creation as
    proto-evolutionary. He also was an engaged
    reviewer of many of his era's important books by
    scientists, theologians, and historians who wrote
    on scientific research in relation to traditional
    Christianity. Exploration of Warfield's writing
    on science generally and evolution in particular
    retrieves for historical consideration an
    important defender of mediating positions in the
    supposed war between science and religion.

B.B. Warfield 1851-1921
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God openbaart zich door de natuur
  • Psalm 19
  • De hemel verhaalt van Gods majesteit,
  • Het uitspansel roemt het werk van zijn handen

Melkweg 100 miljard sterren Universum 100
miljard sterrensteden
God maakte ook de sterren" .. Gen 116
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Intelligent Design (capitalised)
heterogeneous movement -- will focus on ID
centred at Discovery Institute
  • some key publications and people
  • The Mystery of Lifes Origin (1984)
  • Charles B. Thaxton, Walter L. Bradley, Roger L.
    Olsen
  • Evolution, a Theory in Crisis (1986)
  • Michael Denton
  • Darwin on Trial (1991)
  • Philip Johnson
  • Darwins Black Box (1996)
  • Michael Behe (CT book of the year)
  • Icons of evolution (2000)
  • Jonathan Wells
  • No Free Lunch (2001)
  • William Dembski

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What is ID
  • Intelligent agency, as an aspect of scientific
    theory making, has more explanatory power in
    accounting for the specified, and sometimes
    irreducible complexity of some physical systems,
    including biological entities, and/or the
    existence of the universe as a whole, than the
    blind forces of. . . matter.1 That is,
    intelligent design is a better explanation for
    entities exhibiting complex specified information
    (CSI) than are appeals to the inherent capacities
    of nature (i.e. chance and/or physical
    necessity). ID suggests that the world contains
    objects that exhaust the explanatory resources of
    undirected natural causes, and can only be
    adequately explained by recourse to intelligent
    causation.
  • (definition from Peter S. Williams)

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Irreducible Complexity
Michael Behe (1996)
  • Bacterial flagellum, immune system, etc... are
    too complex to have evolved
  • This result is so unambiguous and so significant
    that it must be ranked as one of the greatest
    achievements in the history of science ... The
    discovery of intelligent design rivals those of
    Newton and Einstein, Lavoisier and Schroedinger,
    Pasteur and Darwin.

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Complex Specified Information
William Dembski
  • CSI -- information that could not have come
    there by chance alone?
  • e.g. when we see a statue v.s. weathered rock
  • Law of the conservation of information

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Intelligent Design
  • Philosophical issues
  • Definition of science (demarcation) ?
  • Problems, but why not follow the evidence?
  • Theological issues
  • when/why does God intervene?
  • miracles?
  • Newman/Barth critique

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ID and Christians
  • Major issues is -- why these miracles?
  • Miracles occur to serve Gods redemptive purpose
  • Origin, Augustine, Aquinas, Luther, Calvin etc...

And I hold, that when God works miracles, he
does not do it in order to supply the wants of
nature, but those of grace. Whoever thinks
otherwise, must needs have a very mean notion of
the wisdom and power of God Leibnitz
e.g. what is the Biblical rationale for
supernatural action aiding the creation of the
flagellum?
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Intelligent Design (capitalised)
  • GOOD
  • Looking at complex questions in
    science/philosophy
  • counteracting evolutionism
  • middle road, broad church?
  • LESS GOOD
  • Detached from scripture
  • doesnt solve some pressing questions (like death
    before fall)
  • very political
  • http//www.discovery.org
  • William Dembski, Michael Behe, Stephen Meyer,
    Paul Nelson

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Calvin on using science
  • As far as I am aware, there is no evidence that
    Galileo had any direct knowledge of Calvin's
    writings. Nevertheless his understanding of the
    nature of the language used by the Bible when
    referring to the natural world is the same as
    Calvin's as the following quotations from the
    Letter to the Grand Duchess Christina show.
  • B1. These propositions set down by the Holy
    Ghost were set down in that manner by the sacred
    scribes in order to accommodate them to the
    capacities of the common people, who are rude and
    unlearned. (p. 181)
  • B2. It is necessary for the Bible, in order to
    be accommodated to the understanding of every
    man, to speak many things which appear to differ
    from the absolute truth so far as the bare
    meaning of the words is concerned. (p. 182)
  • B3. For that reason it appears that nothing
    physical which sense-experience sets before our
    eyes, or which necessary demonstrations prove to
    us, ought to be called in question (much less
    condemned) upon the testimony of biblical
    passages which may have some different meaning
    beneath their words. (p. 182f)
  • B4. ...having arrived at any certainties in
    physics, we ought to utilize these as the most
    appropriate aids in the true exposition of the
    Bible and in the investigation of those meanings
    which are necessarily contained therein, for
    these must be concordant with demonstrated
    truths. (p. 183)
  • The first two quotations express the same
    'accommodation' understanding of biblical
    language as Calvin adopted. The third recognises
    that, as a result of this, the literal sense of
    the biblical text may sometimes be at variance
    with the scientific understanding of the natural
    phenomenon described. In the final quotation
    Galileo makes the point made by Prof. McKay that
    one reason why biblical interpreters should take
    scientific knowledge into account is that it will
    help them to recognise when the biblical writers
    are using the language of appearance or cultural
    idioms, and so help them avoid the kind of
    misinterpretation made by those who condemned
    Galileo.
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    e.html
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