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Title: The Suffering of God


1
The Suffering of God
  • Who Is This Old Testament God?

2
The Suffering of God Session 2
  • God in Old Testament Theology

3
Opening Prayer Proper 21 (BCP)
  • O God, you declare your almighty power chiefly
    in showing mercy and pity Grant us the fullness
    of your grace, that we, running to obtain your
    promises, may become partakers of your heavenly
    treasure through Jesus Christ our Lord, who
    lives and reigns with you and the Holy Spirit,
    one God, for ever and ever. Amen.

4
God in Old Testament Theology
  • A Metaphoric Shift

5
A Metaphoric Shift
  • Failure to consider the range of biblical
    metaphors for God leads to imbalance in our
    understanding of God
  • Major shift occurred in the 1960s
  • Honest to God by J. A. T. Robinson
  • Womens movement
  • Black Theology
  • Liberation Theology
  • Tended to reject images of God that validated
    control or oppression of others
  • Began to focus on God as Liberator

6
A Metaphoric Shift
  • Cultural changes behind the shift
  • Experience of WWI WWII in conjunction with the
    image of God as Warrior
  • Scientific research led many to question Gods
    sphere of activity
  • Traditional divine attributes came under
    discussion
  • Divine eternity
  • Temporality
  • Freedom
  • Immutability
  • Foreknowledge
  • Impassibility
  • Omnipotence
  • Aseity
  • Immateriality
  • Immanence-transcendence

7
A Metaphoric Shift
  • Fretheims criteria for weighing metaphors for
    God
  • Should meet the needs of and match our shared
    experience as human beings
  • Be intelligible and coherent
  • Should reflect the biblical witness

8
Convergence Pluralism
  • Biblical images for God dont always match
    previous scholarly work on theology
  • Todays theologians are doing their own exegesis
  • Certain biblical themes, such as divine
    repentance and anthropomorphic images, appear
    infrequently, in theological references like
    commentaries
  • Recent theological work
  • Reaffirmed most traditional Christian views of
    God
  • Introduced a variety of new images for God

9
Convergence Pluralism
  • Canonical viewpoint of the church needs to
    embrace the variety of images for God found in
    the Bible
  • Ultimately the source of many denominational
    differences
  • Pluralism has been canonized. (p. 19)
  • Efforts to limit the canonicity of Biblical
    materials to a certain subset threaten to
    undercut theological development in response to
    future challenges

10
Directions
  • Movement away from a God who acts in history to
    a more complex God and world in relationship
  • OT theologies
  • Systematic, addressing various attributes of God
    (Approach of Eichrodt)
  • Historic, based on historical developments in
    understanding God (Approach of Gerhard von Rad)
  • Claus Westermann blends these 2 approaches (God
    humans live in a history in which God acts to
    save and bless)

11
Directions
  • When history is applied to God, this implies
    change and contingency for God (p. 23)
  • Theological emphasis on story needs to
    recognize the interdependent nature of story with
    certain concepts that are key to interpreting the
    story
  • Ex. Exodus story only meaningful if certain
    revelations to Moses are accepted
  • God is the God of Abraham, Isaac Jacob
  • God has heard the cry of his people
  • God will be with Moses

12
Story and Generalization
  • How should we determine the generalizations
    underlying the story?
  • Pay attention to the generalizations that
    biblical authors disclose in telling the story
  • Take note of truth-claims made by an author
    that constrain the interpretation of a story

13
Story and Generalization
  • It is not enough to say that God is the one
    who saves and blesses in these stories what is
    crucial is the kind of God who is understood to
    be saving and blessing. A capricious God can
    save and bless. Even an impersonal God could
    engage in such activities.It is the truth-claims
    that Israel makes regarding the kind of God who
    was active in its life that provide a crucial
    interpretive clue to the story, and insist that
    it be read in a certain way, delimiting
    possibilities of meaning. (p. 24)

14
Story and Generalization
  • Historical recitals have been highlighted as
    key to understanding the Old Testament
  • Read Deut. 265-9
  • Multiple variations of this material are found
    throughout the OT
  • Important, but we need more information, if we
    are to have a balanced picture of the story
  • Confessional statements provide a critical lens
    for understanding the OT story
  • Read Exodus 346-7
  • Often appear near the historical recital
  • Found in different genres within scripture
  • An example of Israelite abstract thinking

A wandering Aramean was my ancestor he went down
into Egypt and lived there as an alien, few in
number, and there he became a great nation,
mighty and populous. When the Egyptians treated
us harshly and afflicted us, by imposing hard
labor on us, we cried to the LORD, the God of our
ancestors the LORD heard our voice and saw our
affliction, our toil, and our oppression. The
LORD brought us out of Egypt with a mighty hand
and an outstretched arm, with a terrifying
display of power, and with signs and wonders and
he brought us into this place and gave us this
land, a land flowing with milk and honey.
The LORD passed before him and proclaimed, The
LORD, the LORD, a God merciful and gracious, slow
to anger, and abounding in steadfast love and
faithfulness, keeping steadfast love for the
thousandth generation, forgiving iniquity and
transgression and sin, yet by no means clearing
the guilty, but visiting the iniquity of the
parents upon the children and the childrens
children, to the third and the fourth generation.
15
Story and Generalization
  • These creedal statements should receive more
    attention than the historical recital since
    other OT texts suggest that the Israelites will
    forget their history (Jer. 237)
  • Creedal statements of the kind of God Israel
    worships function even if the story about God and
    Israel is suspended
  • Gods story continues (p. 27)
  • Lam. 321-33
  • This kind of God carries hope for the future

Therefore, the days are surely coming, says the
LORD, when it shall no longer be said, As the
LORD lives who brought the people of Israel up
out of the land of Egypt,
16
Story and Generalization
  • Confessional statement of Ex. 34 is presented
    as revelation
  • Appears in the situation of the story of the
    golden calf incident
  • It could be said that it is the way that God
    does not act, in response to human sin, that is
    as revealing of his nature as the more
    spectacular salvific events. (p. 28)

17
Story and Generalization
  • The God who saves and blesses is always
    faithful, loving, gracious, and righteous. (p.
    28)
  • This two-pronged confession (historical
    creedal) indicates that even the OT authors
    subscribed to a canon within the canon view
  • Understanding the diversity within the canon
    depends on certain key confessions of unity

18
The OT God Contemporary Issues
Who caused his glorious arm to march at the right
hand of Moses, who divided the waters before them
to make for himself an everlasting name, who led
them through the depths? Like a horse in the
desert, they did not stumble. Like cattle that
go down into the valley, the spirit of the LORD
gave them rest. Thus you led your people, to
make for yourself a glorious name. Look down
from heaven and see, from your holy and glorious
habitation. Where are your zeal and your might?
The yearning of your heart and your compassion?
They are withheld from me. For you are our
father, though Abraham does not know us and
Israel does not acknowledge us you, O LORD, are
our father our Redeemer from of old is you name.
  • Impact of Liberation Theology on OT theology
  • Search for images of God as Liberator is
    beginning to take account of the complex
    interaction of biblical images of God (pp. 29-30)
  • God raises up the poor and gives strength to the
    king (1 Sam. 21-10)
  • God is comforter and warrior (Is. 6312-16)
  • Images come out of a cultural context and then
    act to shape the culture after having been
    applied to God

19
The OT God Contemporary Issues
  • Within the biblical text one can see development
    with respect to slavery and womens issues (Ex.
    20-23 Deut. 10 15)
  • Certain images for God rise to prominence in the
    context of certain situations
  • God as Liberator in the Exodus
  • Israel as Gods spouse when Hosea is called to
    oppose the fertility cults

20
The OT God Contemporary Issues
  • Church can reach balanced view of God
  • Giving proper attention to neglected images for
    God
  • Understanding the OTs use of certain metaphors
    with specific settings

21
The OT God Contemporary Issues
  • Fretheims recommendations for working with OT
    metaphors for God
  • Determine the central metaphors
  • That which provides for the most fundamental
    continuity through the centuries is not the story
    of ever-lapsing Israel, nor the heritage of faith
    which is always being reformulated it is the
    history of a certain kind of God who will always,
    come what may, execute justice and love the
    sojourner (Deut. 1018). Gods salvific will is
    never diminished Gods righteousness is never
    compromised Gods steadfast love endures
    forever. (p. 31)
  • Pay close attention to what images for God say
    about God and the faith community

22
Bibliography
  • The Book of Common Prayer (1979). The Seabury
    Press.
  • Fretheim, Terence E. (1984). The Suffering of
    God. Philadelphia Fortress Press.
  • Slide design template. Microsoft Office Online.
    http//office.microsoft.com/en-us/templates/CT0113
    77381033.aspx (18 Sep. 2005)
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