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Title: Larry Davidson, Ph.D.


1
Participation Analysis How Occupational Therapy
can Promote a Life in the Community
  • Larry Davidson, Ph.D.
  • Professor of Psychiatry
  • Director, Program for Recovery and Community
    Health
  • School of Medicine and
  • Institution for Social and Policy Studies
  • Yale University
  • www.yale.edu/prch

2
Main Points
  • Occupational therapy, since its founding as a
    discipline, has been very closely aligned to what
    is now being referred to as recovery-oriented
    practice in behavioral health
  • There are a few ways in which occupational
    science and therapy could be expanded and
    enriched to provide a comprehensive conceptual
    framework for psychiatric rehabilitation
  • These include incorporating experiential, social,
    and contextual dimensions into activity
    analysis and utilizing this expanded form of
    activity analysis (which we call participation
    analysis) as a key tool within a collaborative
    relationship between the practitioner and the
    person in recovery

3
Another Take on the Issue
What occupational therapy can learn from
psychiatric rehabilitation
Reciprocal Enrichment
What psychiatric rehabilitation can learn from
occupational therapy
4
A Final Take on the Issue
  • How can we, what can we do to, promote the life
    in the community envisioned by the Presidents
    2003 New Freedom Commission on Mental Health?
  • Significance of New Freedom designationpart
    of disability rights movement that led to passage
    of ADA in 1990 by the first Bush
  • New Freedom refers to ways to enhance the
    autonomy of persons with disabilitieshow to do
    this for persons with serious mental illnesses?

5
Roots of Occupational Therapy
  • Lev Vygotsky (1896-1934)
  • Adolf (and Mary) Meyer (1866-1950)

Future of Occupational Therapy?
  • Amartya Sen (1933 - )

6
Activity Theory
  • Psychological processes have long been
    understood within a reactive context we must
    find a new methodology
  • All functions of consciousness originally
    arise from action
  • Example of Kindergarten

7
Learning through Internalization
  • Vygotsky describes the process of
    internalization as consisting of a series of
    transformations a) An operation that initially
    represents an external activity is reconstructed
    and begins to occur internally b) An
    interpersonal process is transformed into an
    intrapersonal one and c) The transformation of
    an interpersonal process into an intrapersonal
    one is the result of a long series of
    developmental events.

8
Example of Internalization
  • We call the internal reconstruction of an
    external operation internalization. A good
    example of this process may be found in the
    development of pointing. Initially, this gesture
    is nothing more than an unsuccessful attempt to
    grasp something, a movement aimed at a certain
    object which designates forthcoming activity. The
    child attempts to grasp an object placed beyond
    his reach his hands, stretched toward that
    object, remain poised in the air. His fingers
    make grasping movements. At this initial stage
    pointing is represented by the childs movement,
    which seems to be pointing to an objectthat and
    nothing more.

9
  • When the mother comes to the childs aid and
    realizes his movement indicates something, the
    situation changes fundamentally. Pointing becomes
    a gesture for others. The childs unsuccessful
    attempt engenders a reaction not from the object
    he seeks but from another person. Consequently,
    the primary meaning of that unsuccessful grasping
    movement is established by others. Only later,
    when the child can link his unsuccessful grasping
    movement to the objective situation as a whole,
    does he begin to understand this movement as
    pointing. At this juncture there occurs a change
    in that movements function from an
    object-oriented movement it becomes a movement
    aimed at another person, a means of establishing
    relations. The grasping movement changes to the
    act of pointing. As a result of this change, the
    movement itself is then physically simplified,
    and what results is the form of pointing that we
    may call a true gesture. It becomes a true
    gesture only after it objectively manifests all
    the functions of pointing for others and is
    understood by others as such a gesture.

10
Zone of Proximal Development
  • The zone of proximal development is the
    distance between the actual developmental level
    as determined by independent problem solving and
    the level of potential development as determined
    through problem solving under adult guidance or
    in collaboration with more capable peers

11
  • The zone of proximal development defines those
    functions that have not yet matured but are in
    the process of maturation, functions that will
    mature tomorrow but are currently in an embryonic
    state. These functions could be termed the buds
    or flowers of development rather than the
    fruits of development. The actual developmental
    level characterizes mental development
    retrospectively, while the zone of proximal
    development characterizes mental development
    prospectively

12
Implications
  • A full understanding of the concept of the zone
    of proximal development must result in
    re-evaluation of the role of imitation in
    learning a person can imitate only that which
    is within her developmental level Using
    imitation, children are capable of doing much
    more in collective activity or under the guidance
    of adults. This fact, which seems to be of little
    significance in itself, is of fundamental
    importance in that it demands a radical
    alteration of the entire doctrine concerning the
    relation between learning and development.

13
Zone of Proximal Development(and the art of
care/recovery planning)
The Possible
The Not Yet Possible
14
Activity Analysis
  • Definition
  • Analysis of the steps involved in performing and
    acquiring a new behavior. Should address what
    the activity is (the act), where it is to be
    performed (the scene), how it is to be performed
    (agency), and why it is to be performed
    (purpose).
  • Implication
  • If an adult with a serious mental illness
    appears to be stuck, appears not to be learning
    anything new, then perhaps that is in part a
    result of the fact that no one is showing him or
    her how to do new things that he or she is
    interested in learning.

15
Zone of Proximal Development
Steps involved in performing new behavior
Participation in meaningful activity (not one
that only leads to desired outcome further down
the road!)
16
Scaffolding
  • Scaffolding is the process by which one person
    supports another person to acquire new behaviors,
    skills, and habits through use of the zone of
    proximal development. The person who facilitates
    the new learning may be a parent, teacher,
    mentor, coach, or simply a more capable peer
    (from Vygotskys original definition above)
    basically anyone who has already learned the
    particular action to be learned by the other.
    This person carries out two inter-related and
    essential functions that facilitate the others
    learning. These include 1) providing
    non-intrusive instruction or demonstration while
    encouraging the learner to carry out those parts
    of the tasks that are within his or her capacity,
    and, at the same 2) carrying out the remaining
    parts of the task him or herself. It is the
    others presence and performance of those aspects
    of the task that the learner cannot yet do that
    is referred to as scaffolding.

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Scaffolding
  • Often requires the presence of another, more
    capable, person
  • (more capable in terms of already knowing how to
    perform the targeted behaviorsnot in a global
    sense)
  • Also can be facilitated by the provision of
    needed resources (such as transportation,
    security deposits, micro-loans, equipment, and,
    perhaps most importantly, emotional/social
    support)
  • Examples range from paint-by-the-numbers, to
    learning to tie knots in boy scouts, to
    precepting new professional staff in medical
    /clinical settings

18
A Psychiatric Example
When asked about his own goals, Dorian tells the
staff that he would like to open a checking
account. What do you do?
a. tell Dorian that you will start a skills group
on how to open a checking account to which you
hope he will come, or
b. say Great, we can do that. Lets go to the
bank. and then do just that
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  • Hold that thought,
  • we will return a
  • after brief excursion
  • into psychiatry

20
Meyers Common Sense Psychiatry
  • The proper use of time in some helpful and
    gratifying activity appeared to be a
    fundamental issue in the treatment of any
    neuro-psychiatric patient
  • A pleasure in achievement, a real pleasure in
    the use and activity of ones hands and muscles
    and a happy appreciation of time began to be used
    an incentives in the management of our patients,
    instead of abstract exhortations to cheer up and
    to behave according to abstract or repressive
    rules. The main advance of the new scheme was the
    blending of work and pleasure.

21
Occupation as Central
  • Occupation covers not only what one does to
    earn a living, or to have a career, but also all
    of the other things people do to have a life. The
    emphasis is on human activity, whether that
    activity produces something tangible or not. In
    performing an activity, people are to find the
    intrinsic meaning and enjoyment that make the
    activity worthwhile. To capture this broader
    notion, Meyer took what he described as a new
    step to introduce a freer conception of work
    a concept of free and pleasant and profitable
    occupationincluding recreation and any form of
    helpful enjoyment as the leading principle

22
Opportunities
  • Our rôle consists in giving opportunities rather
    than prescriptions from the first article in
    the first issue of the first volume of the
    Archives of Occupational Therapy (1922)
  • It is not a question of specific prescriptions,
    but of opportunities, except perhaps where
    suggestions can be derived from the history of
    the patient and a minute study of the trends of
    fancy and even delusions reveals the lines of
    predilections and native longingsyet even here
    the physician would only exert his ingenuity to
    adapt opportunities.

23
Building on Strengths
  • Obligation on physician to assess strengths and
    other positive elements and events as well as
    problems and deficits
  • It takes, above all, resourcefulness and an
    ability to respect at the same time the native
    capacities and interests of the patient. Freedom
    from premature meddling, and tact in avoiding
    false comparisons or undue expectations fostering
    disappointment, orderliness without pedantry,
    cheer and praise without sloppiness and without
    surrender of standard these may be the rewards
    of a good use of personal gifts and of good
    training

24
Occupation and Opportunity
  • Activity Analysis for role of recovery-oriented
    practitioner
  • Help the person to identify his or her native
    capacities and interests -- passions, sources
    of meaning and pleasure, and innate and acquired
    strength and assets to build on
  • Help the person to identify meaningful activities
    that also can be short-term steps toward longer
    term goals (if possible, but not necessary)
  • Provide or arrange for scaffolding and in vivo
    role modeling and problem solving in relation to
    engagement in desired activity

25
Example of Activity Analysis
What if she hangs up on me?
Why am I calling her?
Who am I calling?
  • Sequence of major steps
  • Sit in chair comfortably.
  • Find phone number in address book accurately.
  • Pick up receiver carefully.
  • Listen for dial tone attentively.
  • Press phone number correctly.
  • Wait for an answer patiently.
  • Talk to person clearly.
  • Conclude conversation courteously.
  • Put receiver down firmly (Hersch et al., 2005,
    p.48).

What will I say?
Whats she going to say?
What if she says yes?
Who else is going to know?
What will she want from me?
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Substantially Different Experience if
  • Calling potential employer
  • Calling ones elderly parents
  • Calling ones children
  • Calling a friend
  • Calling for information
  • Calling for dinner reservation
  • Calling exterminator for bug infestation
  • Calling 911
  • Etc.

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As a result
  • Activity analysis needs to incorporate
    experiential, social, and contextual dimensions
    of human behavior
  • In doing so, we shift from activity per se to
    participation in meaningful (everyday)
    activities
  • And we shift from primarily technical expertise
    to a collaborative relationship in which the
    persons own desires and aspirations drive the
    process

28
Participation Analysis
  • the systematic consideration of an
    individuals possibilities for positive,
    self-directed engagement in personally meaningful
    everyday activities within naturally-occurring or
    real life contexts
  • carried out by practitioner and person in
    recovery as part of a collaborative relationship
    driven by the persons own hopes, dreams, and
    aspirations and building on his or her innate and
    acquired strengths

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  • But what if the person has no goals?

30
Top 10 Reasons to do Something rather than Nothing
  • For participation to be meaningful, it should
    offer the person access to opportunities
  • For becoming better at something and/or
    accomplishment
  • For affiliation and/or connection with others
  • For affinity
  • For exercising agency and/or authority
  • For experiencing pleasure and/or joy
  • For connecting to something larger than oneself
  • For reflection, quietude, and/or self-expression
  • For caring for and being good to ones self
  • For caring for/helping others out (and being
    cared for by others)
  • For prospering

31
Conversation Tips
  • A helpful conversational structure might be to
    begin with talking about the persons everyday
    activities in the present, then move to
    reflecting on his or her ways of participating in
    everyday activities from the past that were
    different, and then to what the person might like
    to add or change in the future if it were to
    become possible.
  • Consider it a conversation, not an interview,
    that may possibly occur across several encounters
    or over time, rather than as a checklist of
    topics to be covered or completed.

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  • Some examples of opening questions that might be
    used as starting points in creating a
    conversation about the persons everyday life and
    activity participation include
  • What are your days like at the moment? How do you
    spend your days at the moment?
  • What kinds of activities are you involved in?
  • Who do you spend time with? What kinds of
    activities do you do together?
  • What kinds of activities did you used to do?
  • What have you done that gave you a sense of
    enjoyment or achievement?
  • Whats been helpful in getting to do these
    things?
  • What is important to you in your life now?
  • What would you like to be doing in the future if
    it were to become possible?
  • What could be the issues or obstacles to
    overcome? And what might help to make it happen?

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  • Helpful approaches to phrasing questions so as to
    elaborate your understanding of the persons
    everyday activities include
  • Practice phrasing questions using what and
    how to facilitate conversation (e.g., What is
    your work like? How do you get to your friends
    place?)
  • Practice phrasing subsequent questions so that
    they explicitly build on what the other persons
    been saying (e.g., You just mentioned doing
    nothing much, what is doing nothing like? You
    spoke earlier of visiting your family sometimes,
    what kinds of things do you do when you visit
    them?)
  • Everyday activities can seem familiar to us, even
    a taken for granted part of life, and so this
    makes it easier for us to assume we know what
    someone else means when talking about his or her
    everyday activities. Being open to the
    possibility that your ideas may be different from
    the other persons ideas about everyday
    activities makes this less likely.

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Two Examples
  • Anthony and the ER
  • Considering social and contextual issues
  • A case of fossilized behavior
  • Mira and the eyeglasses
  • When someone doesnt do something that he or she
    wants to do
  • Considering the multitude of taken for granted
    steps involved in everyday activities

35
Mira
  • Working backwards from desired activity
  • Does Mira know how she is going to pay for the
    glasses?
  • Health insurance, Medicaid, out of pocket,
    accessing reimbursement, whats covered and
    whats not, etc.
  • Will Mira be able to pick out and try on frames?
  • Having preferences, looking in a mirror, being
    touched by a stranger, making decisions, etc.
  • Will Mira be able to answer the salespersons
    questions?
  • Understanding and conversing, being accompanied
    by her mother, being seen as a mental patient,
    etc.

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  • How will Mira get to the store?
  • Asking parents or friends for a ride, taking the
    bus, who will she see at the mall, etc.
  • Has Mira ever worn glasses before?
  • What was that like? Has she lost glasses in the
    past? What does she associate with wearing
    glasses? Who does she know who wears glasses?
  • How will wearing glasses change Miras life?
  • Will having glasses increase her familys
    expectations of her? Will wearing glasses make
    her less likely to get married?

37
Why the focus on the everyday?
  • Because, really, thats all there is
  • Because that is where recovery happens
  • Because that is the realm of the taken for
    granted that really can no longer be so
  • Capabilities and the role of the self

38
The Need for a New Framework
  • Moral Treatment (1790-1840)
  • Institutionalization (1840-1954)
  • De-Institutionalization (1954-1976)
  • Community Support Movement (1976-1996)
  • Recovery Movement (1996- ?)

39
Underlying Assumptions
  • Treatment (and cure) are provided by mental
    health professionals to the person
  • The person has to be treated and recover first
    before reclaiming an ordinary life in the
    community
  • Only normal people can live their own lives in
    a self-determined, autonomous way in community
    settings

40
Alternative of Disability Model
  • Person has to learn how to live with and despite
    the disability
  • Supports and accommodations may be needed, but
    they are used by the person to live his or her
    own life
  • People have aspirations and talents as well as
    disabilities and needs (person can be both sick
    and well at the same time)

41
Two Different Forms of Recoveryin relation to
Serious Mental Illnesses
Clinical, Symptomatic, or Functional Recovery (or
remission)
  • Recovery from refers to eradicating the symptoms
    and ameliorating the deficits caused by serious
    mental illnesses.
  • Being in recovery refers to learning how to live
    a self-determined life in the face of the
    enduring disability which may be associated with
    serious mental illnesses.

Civil and Disability Rights, Independent Living
Movement (self-determination)
42
Capabilities Framework
  • People are what they do in each moment, not what
    they have now or in the future
  • Freedom is only real when people have both the
    opportunities and the resources to do what they
    value
  • Unfreedoms have to be removed as well as
    opportunities and resources being offered (i.e.,
    discrimination is materially limiting there are
    often obstacles in peoples ways that need to be
    removed)

43
Social-Political Analogy
Deus ex Machina
Customary view
Resources ()
Developing Country
Political Freedoms Participation
Economic Growth

44
  • Not enough money leads to . . .
  • Not enough economic growth . . .
  • Political freedoms delayed indefinitely
    (and thus denied)

45
Sens Upside Down World
Reduce Unfreedoms
External Resources
Economic Growth
Developing Country
Increase Freedoms Participation

Internal Resources
46
As Applied to Recovery
Deus ex Machina
Customary view
Treatment
Normality?
Person with Mental Illness

Reduce Symptoms
47
  • Not enough treatment leads to . . .
  • (not enough compliance, etc.)
  • Not yet normal enough
  • Recovery delayed indefinitely
    (and thus denied)

48
Turning Psychiatry Upside Down
Reduce Stigma Discrimination
Treatment Supports
Recovery
Person with Mental Illness
Increase Agency Participation

Persons own resources
49
Implications
  • Now that people are outside of institutions, many
    (45-65) will recover from serious mental
    illnesses over time
  • Among those who do not recover fully from the
    disorder, most will be able to craft a meaningful
    and gratifying life for themselves, as long as
    they are afforded opportunities, resources, and
    supports

50
This is how Recovery becomes possible for
everyone
  • A person can be in recovery regardless of the
    duration and severity of the disability.
  • Being in recovery only makes sense for people
    who have not yet recovered because it involves a
    process of restoring or developing a meaningful
    sense of belonging and positive sense of identity
    apart from ones disability while rebuilding a
    life in the broader community despite or within
    the limitations imposed by that disability.
    -- Connecticut Department of Mental Health
    and Addiction Services, 2002

51
How to Promote Being in Recovery?
  • Not necessarily the same as how you promote
    recovery from the disorder (e.g., employment,
    housing)
  • By removing unfreedoms that block or impede
    progress (e.g., discrimination)
  • By focusing on the persons own efforts to have
    (or rebuild) a life, and by encouraging and
    supporting those efforts

52
Key Issues
  • People take for granted that you just do things.
    A person with mental illness, its sometimes hard
    its like youre distracted, you cant get
    involved because youre not sort of all there.
  • Basically, if you know recoveryit is more about
    taking control of your life and what you are
    going to do.

53
A Main Task
  • Once a person comes to believe that he or she
    is an illness, there is no one left inside to
    take a stand toward the illness. Once you and the
    illness become one, then there is no one left
    inside of you to take on the work of recovering,
    of healing, of rebuilding the life you want to
    live (Deegan, 1993, p. 9).

54
Woman with schizophrenia(Esso Leete, 1993)
  • What makes life valuable for those of us with
    mental illness? Exactly what is necessary for
    other people. We need to feel wanted, accepted,
    and loved We need support from friends and
    family We need to feel a part of the human
    race, to have friends. We need to give and
    receive love.

55
What Love Does
  • I feel important. I feel like Pinocchio. I was
    only a dead wooden puppet. You gave me time, a
    listening ear, compassion, and love. You made me
    feel heard. You did not walk away in frustration
    when I kicked and screamed against my own
    limitations. You were/are patient with me. I have
    thus concluded I am not a monster.  I can see
    both sides. I can understand and hold both sides,
    both sides of myself. I know I will not be healed
    from my past in one day, and I am willing to hang
    in there and work at it, slowly chip away at a
    problem until I can fashion a solution tailored
    for me But I can tailor a solution for me. You
    listened to me. Now, I listen to me. That's the
    difference.

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Wresting Back Control from the Illness
  • I'm in a contest of will with the world, with
    nature ... and I say to myself Well, damn it,
    you just calm down and drink your coffee. And I
    say to myself You'll just have to wait five
    minutes. So I wait. And then the roommate's
    still bugging me out but then I have the
    control, the self-esteem, the confidence, and
    it's manageable. Then I just proudly walk to my
    room and take space. I mean, it's successful.

57
  • There is this wicked side of me that can stop
    me. Just like when Im looking for a job and see
    a job that would suit me, there is a voice that
    says, Ah, thats no job for you, and stuff like
    that. And so I have to work a lot with that
    voice, Oh, shut up, Im going to apply for that
    job anyway Its a struggle going on inside me
    all the time.

58
Regaining a sense of personal efficacy
  • It is being active, and I take pride and Im
    independent to a certain extent . . . like in my
    jazz music, like I'll turn on my jazz radio, and
    Ill love it . . . its my interest. I turn the
    radio on myself, no one had it going to nourish
    themselves, to enter-tain themselves, like
    parents would at a house. I turn it on, Im
    responsible, I enjoy the music, I make notes and
    draw while Im hearing it . . . Then I turn it
    off, then I have some evidence, Ive got
    something done, Ive been productive, I have the
    drawings to look at. . . It was for me and by me.
    My own nurturing. So Im proud of this effort.

59
Regaining Confidence
  • I have a good will, it just takes the right
    amount, the um, the kitchen has to be right, so
    to speak, before I do the endeavors. The
    feeling has to be right. Everything has to be
    right before you can make a cake If you dont
    feel like buying the flour for six months then
    you dont feel like it. Then you get your flour,
    and then you notice you dont have enough
    cinnamon, so you wait a while longer.

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Recovery happens in the present (as
opposed to later)
  • Before everything was in the long term
    Instead, having to hang on, to find strength, I
    live small moments more intensely. Now were
    here, you and I, and my whole life is all here,
    only here. It doesnt matter what else happens
    This moment here is more important than anything
    that might happen tomorrow.
  • This was definitely decisive for me, this fact
    of living intensely what Im doing instead of
    worrying about the future or other things was a
    cornerstone for everything a very difficult
    awareness, a difficult position to take, but
    living intensely whatever Im doing, being very
    concentrated, for me personally I did this and
    no one told me to do it. I did it on my own and
    it works. For me.

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Identifying Short-Term, Realistic Goals that
Matter to the Person
  • So I take it step by step. I have learned to
    hurry slowly and do it in stages and set partial
    goals when I have discovered that it makes sense
    doing it by partial goals and making it
    manageable, then you get positive feedback that
    its going okay and then you dont hit the wall.
    Thats my strategy, the strategy for success
    partial goals and sensible goals and attainable
    goals, and thats something Ive learned to do in
    order to achieve things. When I have been able to
    deal with something thats been a struggle and
    feel secure, I move on. Step by step, put things
    behind me.

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Implications for practice and care
  • Most people with serious mental illnesses will be
    able to figure out how to live a meaningful and
    gratifying life in the face of the disorder
  • In order to do so, they may first have to regain
    a sense of hope and a sense of being loved and
    accepted as a worthwhile person who can have some
    control over his or her life and be somewhat
    effective in the world in doing ordinary tasks
  • This may represent a first and essential step
    toward recovery and a first focus of care

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What providers can do
  • In order to lay this essential foundation, care
    providers need to pay particular attention to the
    persons everyday life. This is because recovery
    is made up of the same innumerable small acts of
    living in which we all engage, such as walking a
    dog, playing with a child, sharing a meal with a
    friend, listening to music, or washing dishes.
  • It is nothing more but also nothing less.

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A Very Useful Question
  • What is worth doing today?
  • Heifetz, R.A. Linsky, M. (2002). Leadership
    on the line. Boston Harvard Business School
    Press.

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The Crux of the Problem
Well, this is a very impressive resume, young
man. I think youre going to make a fine
patient.
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The Story of Steve
  • In his frequent efforts to promote the
    transformation agenda in Connecticut,
    Commissioner of Mental Health and Addiction
    Services, Tom Kirk, Ph.D., tells the story of a
    27 year-old man named Steve who he met during a
    visit to a supported housing program. When he
    asked the staff how Steve was doing in his
    recovery, Commissioner Kirk reports that they
    responded favorably about how well Steve was
    doing in the program, following the rules, taking
    his medication as prescribed, and having his
    symptoms relatively under control.
  • When asked if this was the kind of life they
    hoped for this young man for the foreseeable
    future, the staff seemed puzzled, confident that
    they were doing their best. His condition, after
    all, was stable and he had not been admitted to
    the hospital for several years. Commissioner
    Kirk, however, was not satisfied. He asked the
    staff to go one step further and consider whether
    or not this would be the kind of life that would
    make them content were they in Steves place.
  • Once it was phrased this way, the staff began to
    think that more could be done for, and more could
    be expected from, this clever college graduate
    who was engaging, loved cars and racing, and had
    aspirations of becoming a mechanic. But how could
    they help him with that? They had little idea as
    to what they could do beyond treating his
    schizophrenia and encouraging him to participate
    in program activities as a way of luring him away
    from his television set. Becoming a mechanic
    seemed a long way off, if it was to be possible
    at all.

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Homeless woman with mental illness
  • When you carry something, let me see, when you
    carry like a television, you know, thats heavy,
    you have something heavy and you put it down, you
    feel better. Thats how I feel today. You dont
    see me crying no more, you know. I need somebody
    to, to understand me and help me. Like I say, if
    youre going to go to my house or youre going to
    call me, or you need to see me, please ask me how
    I am

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  • cause I got my problems. I need somebody to
    come and help me talk. Dont give me nothing. I
    dont want nothing from nobody. I just want you
    to sit with me. Juanita, how are you today?
    Thats all.

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