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The evolution of adviser charging models in
practice
  • Dennis Hall Yellowtail Financial Planning
  • Adam Young Dragonfly Planning

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Objectives for the Business
  • To develop a valuable client centric proposition
  • To provide services that a client wants and needs
    at a commercially viable price

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Understanding your target market
  • Positioning your suite of services (and skills)
    around opportunities and threats that your target
    market are facing
  • Becoming the go to specialist in that
    sector/market
  • Building a trusted relationship and community to
    enhance your services

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The Solutions ......
  • Avoiding product noise.......

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Dragonfly Evolution
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Attributes for Success
VALUE
Source JP Morgan
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Dragonflys Journey Perspective
  • The world is changing, and we must adapt to
    survive
  • Working on a pure fee basis has removed perceived
    conflict of interest
  • Our primary operational model is based on flat
    fees renewed annually

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Yellowtail story fees version 1.0
  • Single (value based) fee - our wish list
  • Easy to understand
  • Rewarded us for advice on other assets
  • Removed any product biases
  • Alignment of interests
  • Attractive to long term client relationships
  • Sustainable
  • RDR ready
  • Market advantage
  • Removed from commission model

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Yellowtail story fees version 1.0
  • Single (value based) fee - results
  • Lasted less than a year
  • Existing clients initially accepted it
  • Prospective clients sceptical
  • Nobody liked it (including us)
  • Raised more questions than it answered
  • Horse trading over value of other assets

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Yellowtail story fees version 2.0
  • Range of tiered fixed fees
  • Sign on fee
  • Negotiate from 5,000
  • Annual fees based on AUM
  • Broadly 0.5 or less
  • Focus on Financial Planning
  • Annual or more frequent reviews
  • Capped
  • Calculated on an underlying hourly rate

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Yellowtail story fees version 2.0
  • Range of tiered fixed fees the results
  • Easier to explain
  • Too much negotiating on the initial fee
  • Too much emphasis on Financial Planning
  • Sold lots of financial plans
  • Didnt build AUM quickly
  • Difficult cash-flow position
  • Trouble with value proposition during credit
    crunch
  • Doing more work than we were being paid for

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Yellowtail story fees version 3.0
  • Fixed, Hourly and Value Based Fees.
  • Financial Planning Fee 50 up front - 50 on
    completion
  • 2,500VAT initial
  • Implementation fee based on hours spent (VAT
    exempt)
  • Value based fee 0.5 AUM (VAT)
  • Introduced Satisfaction Guarantee
  • Created value proposition for financial planning
  • Sample menu of charges for implementation

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Yellowtail story fees version 3.0
  • Fixed, Hourly and Value Based fees Results
  • Attracted financial planning work
  • A barrier to people wanting long term
    relationship
  • Better cash-flow but long time before AUM
    increased
  • Clients nervous about hourly fees
  • Happy to pay fees for each stage
  • Still not making decent profit

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Yellowtail story fees version 4.0
  • Fixed, Value and Value Based Fees
  • Kept the initial fee the same
  • Changed to value based fees for implementation
  • Increased the ongoing AUM from 0.5 to 1 on
    first 1m
  • 0.35 funds in excess of 1m
  • Additional project fees for planning

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Yellowtail story fees version 4.0
  • Fixed, Value and Value Based Fees Results
  • Increased revenue best ever half year results
  • Lost some clients who wanted cheap work
  • Appeals to our HNW clients
  • Better client engagement
  • Moved everybody across

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Yellowtail story fees version 4.1
  • Fixed, Value and Value Based Fees next
  • Reduce the costs of entry
  • Speed up the pace of engagement
  • Refine the menu of additional services
  • Sell higher value planning

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Professional Partnering
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Freedom....
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