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1
Daniel and Revelation
  • Past Truth or Present Truth?

2
A divided landscape Daniel
  • In the Christian world
  • Majority view re origin of Daniel
  • Written in second century BC
  • Written by unkown author pseudonym of Daniel
  • Focuses on crisis during reign of Antioch IV
    Epiphanes (175-163 BC)?
  • Desecrated Jerusalem temple ( ca.170 BC)?
  • the abomination of desolation (Matt. 2415)?

3
A divided landscape Daniel
  • In Adventism
  • Traditional /majority(?) view re origin of
    Daniel
  • 6th century BC
  • Written by prophet Daniel
  • Covers 25 centuries of history
  • Basis for sanctuary doctrine
  • Great end-time significance
  • Minority view (many scholars)?
  • 2nd cent. BC origin

4
A divided landscape Revelation
  • Schools of interpretation
  • outside Adventism
  • in Adventist Church
  • Preterism
  • Futurism
  • Historicism
  • Idealism

5
A divided landscape - Revelation
  • 1. Preterism
  • Luis de Alcazar (d.1613)?
  • Fullfilment in first century
  • Link with 7 churches
  • Emphasizes texts shortly soon
  • Mat 1628 I tell you the truth, some who are
    standing here will not taste death before they
    see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom.
  • Mat 1023 Mat 2335-36 Mat 2434 Mat 2663-64

6
A divided landscape Revelation
  • 2. Futurism
  • Orginated with RC authors (Lacunza Ribera)?
  • Fullfilments in period just before the end
  • Popular with evangelicals
  • Antichrist world domination
  • Tribulation persecution
  • Rapture

7
A divided landscape Revelation
  • 3. Continuous historical view covers span of
    history (historicism)?
  • Used by early Church Fathers
  • View prevailed during Middle Ages, up to time of
    Reformation
  • Since Reformation in many forms
  • Seems to work

8
A divided landscape Revelation
  • 4. Other approaches
  • Multiple applications
  • Spiritual approach (idealism)?

9
Adventist view - Revelation
  • Traditional view Continuous historical
  • Uriah Smith
  • SDA Bible Commentary
  • Popular writers
  • Evangelisation
  • Confusion
  • Scholars are divided
  • Liberals feel embarassed
  • Conservatives frustrated
  • Desmond Ford apotelesmatic principle
  • Topic is hijacked by right-wing

10
Historicism
  • Plus
  • Has had support through the ages
  • Supported by Adventist tradition / EGW
  • Minus
  • Symbols seem multi-interpretable
  • Predictions do not always come true
  • Has led to repeated date setting
  • Focuses almost exclusively on Western Christianity

11
Our goal in this seminar
  • No detailed analysis of various views
  • Shift of focus
  • Reading apocalyptic prophecy as a particular
    literary form
  • Relevancy for today not primarily dependent on
    detailed explanation of every symbol
  • Relevancy present truth in a postmodern world

12
Present Truth
  • Daniel was present truth for early church
  • Important role of Apocalypticism
  • Jesus referred to Daniel
  • Revelation builds on Daniel
  • Revelation
  • Was present truth for first generations of
    Christians
  • Seven letters
  • Role of Rome

13
Present Truth
  • For Church Fathers
  • For medieval church
  • E.g. Joachim of Fiore (1260 days)?
  • For Reformers
  • Luther
  • Anabaptists
  • During great Awakenings
  • For William Miller and Millerites

14
Present Truth for Adventists
  • For early Adventists (1)?
  • Second coming
  • 1844
  • Soon coming
  • Fall of Babylon
  • Three angels messages
  • Role of Roman Catholicism
  • Deadly wound
  • Recovery

15
Present Truth for Early Adventists
  • For early Adventists (2)?
  • Signs
  • Earthquake Lisbon (1755)?
  • Failing of stars (1780)?
  • Darkening of sun/moon (1833)?
  • Saracenes and Turks
  • Sunday Laws (ca. 1890)?
  • Role of the United States

16
Present Truth in 21st Century??
  • Need for Present Truth Quest for relevancy
  • Postmodern sentiment
  • No need for grand scheme in which all symbols
    have their meaning
  • Allows for multiplicity of viewpoints
  • Whats in it for me?

17
Present Truth
  • Present Truth of Daniel and Revelation for
    today's postmodern generation
  • They tell us about God how He operates
  • They tell us about Christ
  • They tell about sin and victory
  • They tell us about radical living
  • They tell us about choice / commitment
  • They tell us about belonging to Gods people
  • They tell us about worship
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