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Title: Torture


1
Chapter 27
  • Torture

2
Prior to 2002
  • Nuremberg
  • Trial of the Japanese War Criminals
  • International agreements and treaties on torture
  • Secretary of Defense William Perry - 1996
  • He also declared that the Defense Department
    would never again advocate torture or other
    inhumane treatment in its training programs.

3
Why is Torture Special?
  • Does it violate jus cogens?
  • What does that tell us?
  • Why is it considered worse than terrorism, in
    that terrorism does not violate jus cogens?
  • Is there any evidence that torture is a useful
    interrogation device?

4
The Political Uses of Torture prior to 9/11
  • Why was torture used by Pinochet?
  • Was it to get information?
  • Why else would you use torture?
  • What about Pol Pot and others?
  • What does it say about a country to accuse it of
    using torture?
  • Should we care?

5
The Geneva Convention
  • What does the Geneva Convention require for the
    treatment of prisoners of war?
  • Why did the US and other nations agree to the
    Geneva Convention?
  • Does it apply to spies and illegal combatants?
  • What are the problems in defining prisoners of
    war in asymmetric (terrorist) warfare?
  • What is the timeframe problem for the war on
    terror?

6
The Taliban v. al Qaeda
  • Why should Taliban soldiers in Afghanistan be
    given prisoner of war status?
  • Why does al Qaeda not get prisoner of war status?
  • Why are they hard to tell apart, i.e., what is
    the uniform of a Taliban soldier?
  • What is the rationale for downgrading the status
    of the Taliban when we take over Afghanistan?

7
The Office of Legal Counsel (OLC)
  • Are prisoners of war under the Geneva Convention
    subject to harsh interrogation?
  • Why is there an Army manual on interrogation?
  • Why is this a response to Nuremberg?
  • The OLC was asked what interrogation techniques
    would violate US or International Law
  • What is the significance of going outside the
    Army manual?

8
The Torture Statute - 18 U.S.C.A. 2340 (West)
  • 1) torture means an act committed by a person
    acting under the color of law specifically
    intended to inflict severe physical or mental
    pain or suffering (other than pain or suffering
    incidental to lawful sanctions) upon another
    person within his custody or physical control
  • (2) severe mental pain or suffering means the
    prolonged mental harm caused by or resulting
    from--
  • (A) the intentional infliction or threatened
    infliction of severe physical pain or suffering
  • (B) the administration or application, or
    threatened administration or application, of
    mind-altering substances or other procedures
    calculated to disrupt profoundly the senses or
    the personality
  • (C) the threat of imminent death or
  • (D) the threat that another person will
    imminently be subjected to death, severe physical
    pain or suffering, or the administration or
    application of mind-altering substances or other
    procedures calculated to disrupt profoundly the
    senses or personality

9
The OLC Definition of Torture
  • Physical pain amounting to torture must be
    equivalent in intensity to the pain accompanying
    serious physical injury, such as organ failure,
    impairment of bodily function, or even death. For
    purely mental pain or suffering to amount to
    torture . . . it must result in significant
    psychological harm of significant duration, e.g.,
    lasting for months or even years.
  • The OLC memorandum even concluded that torture
    might be justified in some circumstances.

10
What does the Convention on Torture Say about
Exceptions?
  • . . . which provides that no exceptional
    circumstances whatsoever, whether a state of war
    or a threat of war, internal political
    instability or any other public emergency, may be
    invoked as a justification of torture. United
    Nations Convention Against Torture and Other
    Cruel, Inhuman, or Degrading Treatment or
    Punishment Art. 2, cl. 2, December 10, 1984, S.
    Treaty Doc. No. 100-20, 1465 U.N.T.S. 85

11
The Significance of the OLC Memo
  • Does it matter what the International Court of
    Justice thinks?
  • What is the worst they can do?
  • Do you believe that is politically possible?
  • Did Pinochet ever get tried?
  • What laws are the OLC Memo aimed at?

12
Qualified Immunity
  • What is the standard for qualified immunity?
  • How would use the OLC memo in a qualified
    immunity defense?
  • Who would this help, i.e., who does the memo not
    protect?
  • But what does Iqbal tell us about getting to the
    high officials?
  • Did the lawyers implement the torture plans?

13
Military/Agency Discipline
  • Can the military still punish officers who
    violate the manual?
  • Can the CIA administratively sanction employees
    who engaged in torture, despite the OLC memo?
  • Why are neither going to happen, even with a
    change in administrations?
  • Would it matter if there were a universal belief
    that the OLC memo was bad law?

14
Abu Ghraib
  • Abu Ghraib is more about inhuman and degrading
    treatment than torture
  • Why was Abu Ghraib about the worst possible
    public relations problem for the US in war on
    terror?
  • How did it come to light?
  • How was it compartmentalized and handled by the
    military?
  • Sound like the Rodney King defense?

15
Bottom Line on Torture
  • Should it matter that the FBI, who knows more
    about interrogation for a longer period than any
    other agency, does not believe torture is an
    effective way to get information?
  • Does this destroy the "ticking bomb" rationale?
  • Even if there some benefit to torture, does its
    political consequences outweigh the benefit?

16
The OLC Lawyers
  • Are these memos appropriate lawyer work?
  • Are they competent lawyer work?
  • Are they ethical?
  • What is the role of the OLC?
  • Is it the same as a mafia lawyer?
  • Was it just stupid to write this stuff down?
  • What would you have done?

17
The Detainee Treatment Act
  • (a) In General.No individual in the custody or
    under the physical control of the United States
    Government, regardless of nationality or physical
    location, shall be subject to cruel, inhuman, or
    degrading treatment or punishment.
  • (b) Construction.Nothing in this section shall
    be construed to impose any geographical
    limitation on the applicability of the
    prohibition against cruel, inhuman, or degrading
    treatment or punishment under this section.
  • (c) Limitation on Supersedure.The provisions of
    this section shall not be superseded, except by a
    provision of law enacted after the date of the
    enactment of this Act which specifically repeals,
    modifies, or supersedes the provisions of this
    section.

18
DTA - What is prohibited
  • (d) Cruel, Inhuman, or Degrading Treatment or
    Punishment Defined. In this section, the term
    cruel, inhuman, or degrading treatment or
    punishment means the cruel, unusual, and
    inhumane treatment or punishment prohibited by
    the Fifth, Eighth, and Fourteenth Amendments to
    the Constitution of the United States, as defined
    in the United States Reservations, Declarations
    and Understandings to the United Nations
    Convention Against Torture and Other Forms of
    Cruel, Inhuman or Degrading Treatment or
    Punishment done at New York, December 10, 1984.

19
Bush's Signing Statement
  • in a manner consistent with the constitutional
    authority of the President to supervise the
    unitary executive branch and as Commander in
    Chief and consistent with the constitutional
    limitations on the judicial power, which will
    assist in achieving the shared objective of the
    Congress and the President . . . of protecting
    the American people from further terrorist
    attacks.

20
Constitutional Issues on Domestic Torture
  • Assuming that the information is not used for
    criminal prosecution, would torture violate the
    5th amendment ban on self-incrimination?
  • Assuming it is not done as punishment, could you
    use the 8th amendment?
  • Remember material witnesses?
  • This still leaves you with your basic 5th
    amendment Bivens claim - death or injury without
    due process.
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