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Title: Plato


1
Platos Republic
  • Unit 2 Greece
  • Honors 2101, Fall 2006
  • Bryan Benham

2
Plato (429-348)
  • Student of Socrates
  • Wrote Socratic Dialogues
  • Established first school The Academy
  • Teacher of Aristotle
  • The Republic represents the 1st political
    treatise, educational reform, systematic
    psychological and epistemological theory,
    aesthetics, and theory of virtue or the good
    (just) life.

3
Structure of Republic
I
Elenchus
Main Argument
II
III
IV
VIII
IX
V
VI
VII
X
Digressions
4
Justice (dikaiosune)
  • Elenchus (Bk. I)
  • dialogue on conventional definitions of Justice.
  • Main Argument
  • a response to challenge in Bk. II to (a) define
    justice, and (b) show that justice is better than
    injustice.
  • Digressions
  • provides a theory of knowledge/wisdom,
    aesthetics, and afterlife in support of main
    argument.

5
Book I 3 Definitions of Justice
  • Cephalus (327a-337d)
  • Justice is honesty in word and deed or simply
    paying ones debts and obligations.
  • Polemarchus (331e-336a)
  • Justice is helping friends and harming enemies,
    or giving everyone his due.
  • Thrasymachus (336b-354e)
  • Justice is the interest of the strong (rulers)
    and is less profitable than injustice.

6
Book I First Definition
  • Cephalus (327a-337d)
  • Justice is honesty in word and deed or simply
    paying ones debts and obligations.
  • Socrates Replies imagine an angry friend wants
    his weapon back to harm another Cephalus
    definition is inadequateneed further
    determination of justice (doing what is right)

7
Book I Second Definition
  • Polemarchus (331e-336a)
  • Justice is helping friends and harming enemies,
    or giving everyone his due.
  • Socrates Replies difficult to determine what is
    appropriate to each it may be appropriate to be
    unjust at timesPs definition is inconsistent
    (never just to harm others?)

8
Book I Third Definition
  • Thrasymachus (336b-354e)
  • Justice is the interest of the strong (rulers)
    and is less profitable than injustice.
  • A type of relativism or distortion of the just by
    the rulers.
  • (a new golden rule he with the gold makes the
    rules)
  • Cf. Melian Dialogue or Plague in Athens
  • Socrates Replies (difficult)
  • T suggests only ideology, not independent ethics
  • But elenchus cant be employed if ideological
  • Abandon the elenchus?

9
At this point
  • In Euthyphro Plato/Socrates rejects a divine
    justification for morality (piety).
  • In Republic, Bk. 1, Plato rejects conventional
    definitions of morality (justice).
  • What is the alternative left to Plato?

10
Book II The Problem
  • Glaucon ( Adeimantus) argues justice is only
    instrumentally good that the life of the unjust
    is better, and only the appearance of justice is
    worthwhile.
  • Ring of Gyges (359b-360d)

11
Book II The Challenge
  1. What is justice, if not merely the interest of
    the powerful?
  2. Show that the just life is intrinsically
    valuable, and not just instrumentally valuable.

12
Book II Socrates Replies
  • Analogy with justice in the soul and justice in
    the city. (368c-e)
  • Two Principles of a City
  • No one is self-sufficient, need cooperation
  • Individuals are naturally better/worse at
    performing some task

13
Organization of Cities
  • Since no one can do everything, individuals
    should focus their energies in those areas for
    which they have a natural abilities. In this way
    the city will best meet its needs.
  • Healthy City
  • City that meets all the basic needs without
    flourish.
  • Luxurious City
  • City that meets all the basic needs plus some
    luxuries desired by citizens.

14
Book III (n/a)
  • Education of the Guardians
  • Happiness and Virtue (460b ff.)
  • Tripartite Division of the City (412)
  • Rulers
  • Guardians (protectors of the city)
  • Producers Craftsmen
  • Myth of Metals (noble lie 414)
  • Gold rational
  • Silver spirited
  • Iron appetitive

15
Book IV
  • Virtues of the Good City
  • Tripartite Soul
  • Virtues of the Soul
  • Justice in the Soul

16
Book IVVirtues of the Good City
Wisdom Knowledge and judgment regarding how the city is best served. Chief virtue of Rulers ( Guardians)
Courage Spirit (honor) tempered with reason, a type of perseverance in the face of fear. Chief virtue of Guardians (Auxillaries or Soldiers)
Moderation (Sophrosune) A type of harmony or order between parts an agreement about who does what (e.g., rulers rule) A well ordered society.
Justice Doing ones work/role well, and not doing someone elses work/role. An effect of proper functioning
17
Book IVTripartite Soul
  • Just as in the city so too in the soul (434d)
  • Three Parts
  • Rational part Reason, judgment, etc.
  • Spirited part Anger, ambition, courage, etc.
  • Appetitive part Desire for food, sex, comfort,
    etc.

18
Book IVVirtues of the Soul
City Virtue Soul
Rulers Wisdom Rational
Soldiers Courage Spirited
Producers Craftsmen Appetitive
Justice?
19
Book IVJustice in the Soul
  • Answer to 1st Challenge What is justice, if not
    merely the interest of the powerful?
  • By Analogy
  • Just as justice in the city is each part
    performing its natural role, we should expect the
    soul to be just in the same way (434d ff.)
  • Justice in the soul is each part doing its
    function well. Rational part rules, spirited part
    motivates good action, and the appetitive is to
    be ruled by the rational and spirited parts.
    Injustice in the soul amounts to civil war or
    revolution.

20
Book VIII (n/a)
  • Different types of character in a city/soul and
    the level of injustice in each
  • Aristocracy
  • Timocracy
  • Oligarchy
  • Democracy
  • Tyranny

21
Book IXThe Just Life is Better
  • Answer to 2nd Challenge
  • Three Demonstrations that justice is better.
  • Unjust soul is wretched, unfree, slavish,
    fearful, etc. Thus, justice is most happy (576c,
    ff.)
  • Rational pursuits (life) have greater and longer
    lasting pleasure associated with it spirited and
    appetitive pleasures are only transitory (580d,
    ff.).
  • A just person, ruled by reason, comes closer to
    truth and knowledge, and so is better off --
    truth is intrinsically good because it is the
    most real (583b, ff).

22
Main Argument Summary
  • Analogy between city and soul
  • Parts
  • Virtues
  • Justice
  • Questions
  • Do you agree with the analogy?
  • Do you think Plato is right about justice?

23
Structure of Republic
I
Elenchus
Main Argument
II
III
IV
VIII
IX
V
VI
VII
X
Digressions
24
Books V, VI, VII(473d-521a)
  • Socrates has just laid out the organization and
    virtues of the ideal city Kallipolis
  • Glaucon and Adaimantus ask whether this is a
    dream or something possible How is Kallipolis
    possible?
  • Answer What is needed are Philosopher-Kings

25
Philosopher-Kings
  • Until philosophers rule as kings in their
    cities, or those who are nowadays called kings
    and leading men become genuine and adequate
    philosophers so that political power and
    philosophy become thoroughly blended together,
    while the numerous natures that now pursue either
    one exclusively are forcibly prevented from doing
    so, cities will have no rest from evils, my dear
    Glaucon, nor, I think, will the human race. And
    until that happens, the same constitution we have
    now described in our discussion will never be
    born to the extent that it can, or see the light
    of the sun. It is this claim that has made me
    hesitate to speak for so long. I say how very
    unbelievable it would sound, since it is
    difficult to accept that there can be no
    happiness, either public or private, in any other
    city.
  • (Repulbic, 474d)

26
Philosophers vs. Others?
  • What distinguishes a philosopher from others?
  • Philosophers desire wisdom or truth in whole, not
    merely in part
  • Genuine knowledge
  • Distinction between knowledge, belief, and
    ignorance

27
Distinctions
Knowledge Belief Ignorance
What is Being always the same in all respect What is and what is not a mixture of both mere appearance What is not
Philosophers Philodoxers Idiots?
28
Knowledge of the Good
  • The philosophers nature, desiring the truth is
    consistent with the type of nature we expect in a
    ruler - guided by knowledge of what is the good.
  • Knowledge of the Good is the highest object of
    knowledge.
  • Sun, Line, and Cave to illustrate

29
Analogy of the Sun
  • The sun is the light that connects what is seen
    with the seer the one connects the many.

30
Analogy of the Sun
  • The sun is the light that connects what is seen
    with the seer the one connects the many.

31
Analogy of the Sun
  • The sun is the light that connects what is seen
    with the seer the one connects the many.

32
Analogy of the Sun
  • SoKnowledge of the good is like this
  • Without knowledge of the definition (sun), we
    would not know any of the examples (seen) that
    is, we wouldnt be able to identify the examples.

33
Divided Line
Form (1st Principle) noesis Understanding or intellection
Mathematical Objects dranoia Thought
Original Objects doxa Belief, or trust and faith (pistis)
Shadows or reflections of images eikasia Imagination
Intelligible
Knowledge
Sensible (Visible)
Opinion
(509d-511e)
34
Divided Line
  • Levels of knowledge
  • Highest levels are universal and intellectual
  • Removed from sensible world
  • Knowledge corresponds to degree of reality
  • More knowable Closer to truth
  • Closer to truth More real (unchangeable)

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Allegory of the Cave(514a-521b)
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Allegory of the Cave(514a-521b)
38
Cave Line
  • Sun Form
  • Objects in world mathematical objects
  • Objects behind wall original objects
  • Shadows on wall imagination
  • Also
  • Model of education for
  • Philosopher-Kings

39
Quick Flashback
  • A just person, ruled by reason, comes closer to
    truth and knowledge, and so is better off --
    truth is intrinsically good because it is the
    most real (Book IX, 583b).
  • Knowing the form of the Good (the first
    principles) is to know what is real
    (unchangeable) and so is not subject to the
    vagarities of mere beliefthus better off

40
What discourages philosophers from becoming
kings? (487b-497a)
  1. Masses dont appreciate philosophy(-ers)
  2. Philosophers are feared and/or ridiculed
  3. Philosophers wouldnt risk the danger
  4. Philosophers, once they know the truth, dont
    want to return to worldly business
  5. And its just plain difficult to be a
    philosopherthink of the educational program
    Plato lays out

41
Book X (n/a)
  • Immortality of the Soul
  • Knowledge is knowledge of the real
  • The real is incorruptible and thus immortal
  • To know the real the soul must also be
    incorruptible and thus immortal.
  • Myth of Er and mimesis
  • Story about afterlife and reincarnation
  • Choosing lots for ones next life

42
Concluding Thoughts
  • Allegory of the Cave and levels of reality are
    most influential ideas of Republic.
  • Do you agree with the image of knowledge depicted
    in the allegory?
  • Agree that the knowable is the most real?
  • Do you agree about philosopher-kings?
  • Until philosophers rule as kingscities will have
    no rest from evilsnor, I think, will the human
    race

43
Some Paper Topics
  • When Plato speaks of justice, is he defining a
    state of political stability or a state of
    psychological balance? Does this make a
    difference in understanding justice?
  • Plato's ideal city turns out to be a totalitarian
    government ruled by an elite class of
    individuals. Why does Plato think this must be
    so? Do you agree with Plato on the necessity for
    a highly structured society to achieve justice?
    Is totalitarianism necessarily a bad thing?
  • In the Euthyphro Plato rejects a divine
    justification for morality, in Book I of the
    Republic Plato also rejects a common-sense notion
    of morality. What does Plato offer as an
    alternative? Is this a viable alternative?
  • How would Plato respond to the Athenians in the
    Melesian Dialogue by Thycydides? How do
    Thucydides and Plato compare in their conception
    of justice? Which do you think is right?
  • How might Plato evaluate the actions of Achilles,
    Agamemnon or Hektor in terms of the Tripartite
    theory of the soul and the proper place of
    reason?
  • Do you agree with Plato that the just (the good)
    person is always better off than the unjust
    person, even if the just person receives no
    external benefit from being just? In your
    response consider Glaucons challenge and the
    story of Gyges ring in Book II of the Republic.
  • Discuss Platos claim that no genuine justice or
    happiness will be found unless philosopher-kings
    rule.
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