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Title: Lloyd George


1
Lloyd George The Peoples Budget
  • Reading McLean, Ch. 6.

2
The Liberals Predicament
  • Landslide victory of 1906
  • Masks fundamental weakness of Liberals position

3
The Liberals Predicament
  • Alliance with Irish Nationalists is constraining
  • The Irish Question internally divisive (Home Rule
    Crisis, 1886)
  • Reliance on vagaries of SMP electoral system
  • Class dividing the Liberals urban social base
  • Labour challenge on left an unstable bargain
  • the greatest danger to the Liberals will arise
    from a split between Liberalism and Labour, such
    as destroyed liberalism in Germany and
    elsewhere. (McLean, 1999, 158)

4
The Strategic Prescription
  • Similar to Kings situation in 1925
  • Liberals need to
  • Widen partys social intellectual base
  • Incorporate Labour position and support
  • Get rid of Irish Question (i.e., make politics
    unidimensional)
  • Curb House of Lords
  • Note 1-3 are closely related strategies.

5
The Conservative Blockade
  • The difficulty the Conservatives use the Lords
    to undermine the Liberal government
  • When the Conservative Party is in power there
    is practically no House of Lords it takes
    whatever the Conservative Government brings it
    from the House of Commons without question or
    dispute but the moment a Liberal Government is
    formed, this harmless body assumes an active
    life, and its activity is entirely exercised in
    opposition to the Government.
  • (Lord Rosebery, quoted in Jenkins 1954, 17)

6
The Conservative Blockade
  • Thus, failure to curb Lords undercuts attempts to
    deal with Ireland or outflank Labour
  • Education Bill
  • Licensing Bill
  • Old Age Pensions
  • Budget of 1909, The Peoples Budget

7
The Education Bill
  • Lords votes 132 52 insisting on amendments
    gutting the bill
  • However, the great majority of Liberal MPs
    thought that the education issue was not big
    enough to afford favourable ground from which to
    force the issue.
  • (Jenkins 1954, 25)

8
Threatening Talk
  • Liberals use 1907 Throne speech to sabre-rattle
  • serious questions affecting the working of our
    parliamentary system have arisen from unfortunate
    differences between the two houses,and, His
    Majestys Ministers have this important subject
    under consideration with a view to a solution of
    this difficulty.
  • (Jenkins 1954, 28)

9
But Little Action
  • Liberals actually oppose a proposal to create a
    nominated or elected Second Chamber
  • A Liberal Government would be extremely
    ill-advised to touch the composition of the
    Second Chamber until it had settled its powers.
    To set up a nominated Second Chamber compsed of
    grave and reverend i.e., legitimate but
    necessarily conservative-minded individuals
    would, if such a Chamber succeeded to the powers
    of the present House, both increase the evil and
    abolish the remedy which the present system
    provided
  • (Jenkins 1954, 29-30)

10
The Licensing Bill A First-Class Funeral
  • Bill to regulate public houses and liquor
  • Resented by Irish (whiskey industry)
  • Tories bitterly (opportunistically?) opposed
    Bill takes 8 months to get through Commons
  • Tories kill it in the Lords 272-96.

11
Old Age Pensions
  • Lords is opposed so prodigal of expenditure as
    likely to undermine the whole fabric of the
    Empire, and destructive of all thrift.
    (Jenkins 1954, 37)
  • But Lansdowne convinces Tory Lords to defer to
    Commons The bill is primarily financial in
    nature, and finance is by constitutional
    principle the Commons preserve.

12
Stalemate
  • Session of 1908 ends with Liberals in retreat
  • A string of by-election losses
  • Lack of legislation sparks an internal revolt in
    Commons
  • Only financial matters pass through Lords
  • Financial needs critical Pensions and German
    military build-up

13
Circumventing the Veto
  • Liberal must incorporate social policy into
    budgets
  • Accordingly he Lloyd George proceeded to
    frame his Budget for 1909 with the threefold
    purpose of raising the extra funds needed for old
    age pensions and other intended reforms of
    making provisions for these reforms in the
    finance bill and of adopting tax-raising devices
    which would be particularly distasteful to the
    Peers and might rouse them to throw out the
    Budget.
  • (quoted by Jenkins 1954, 41)

14
Circumventing the Veto
  • Liberal must incorporate social policy into
    budgets
  • Accordingly he Lloyd George proceeded to
    frame his Budget for 1909 with the threefold
    purpose of raising the extra funds needed for old
    age pensions and other intended reforms of
    making provisions for these reforms in the
    finance bill and of adopting tax-raising devices
    which would be particularly distasteful to the
    Peers and might rouse them to throw out the
    Budget.
  • (quoted by Jenkins 1954, 41)

15
The Peoples Budget
  • Introduced 29 April 1909
  • Addressed budget shortfall by increased taxation
  • On incomes
  • On spirits
  • On land!

16
The Peoples Budget
  • Conservatives are implacably opposed
  • Balfour vindictive, inequitable, based on no
    principle, and injurious to the productive
    capacity of the country.
  • Carson the beginning of the end of all property
    rights.
  • Landowne It is a monument of reckless and
    improvident finance.
  • Rosebery It is inquisitorial, tryannical, and
    Socialistic.
  • Blockade the Commons 554 divisions over 6 months

17
The Limehouse Speech
  • Lloyd George ratchets up the rhetoric
  • We are placing the burdens on the broadest
    shoulders. Why should I put burdens on the
    people? I am one of the children of the people.
    I was brought up amongst them, I know their
    trials, and God forbid that I should add one
    grain of trouble to the anxieties which they bear
    with such patience and fortitude.
  • (Jenkins 1954, 56)

18
Overreaction
  • Aristocrats threaten massive reductions in staff
  • They become shrill a Conservative MP noted
  • He only only wished the Dukes had held their
    tongues, every one of them. It would have been a
    good deal better for the Conservatives Party if,
    before the Budget was introduced, every Duke had
    been locked up
  • (Jenkins 1954, 57)

19
Continued Provocation
  • Lloyd George implicitly threatens the Lords
    should they exercise their veto
  • The question will be asked Should 500 men,
    ordinary men, chosen accidentally from among the
    unemployed, override the judgement the
    deliberate judgement of millions of people who
    are engaged in the industry which makes the
    wealth of this country?. The answers are
    charged with peril for the order of things which
    the Peers represent.
  • (Jenkins 1954, 57)

20
Damn the Consequences
  • Tories driven by Chamberlains extremism (and
    Chamberlain was electorally popular)
  • the peers are not worthy of their seats if
    they do not reject the budget.
  • The King, anxious to avoid a crisis, urges
    cross-party talks both sides refuse
  • Tories prepare to veto

21
A Pyrrhic Victory?
  • Not all Tories convinced
  • A general election immediately following the
    rejection of the Budget would, beyond all doubt,
    be disastrous to the fortunes of the Unionist
    Party. The Government would be returned with a
    sufficient majority to re-enact the Budget and to
    remain in office another five years. This would
    be bad enough, but it would be still worse if
    they obtained as the must inevitably try to
    obtain power to curtail the veto of the House
    of Lords.
  • (Lord Lytton, quoted in Jenkins 1954, 62)

22
A Pyrrhic Victory?
  • Lyttons opinion is not isolated
  • My Lords, if you win, the victory can at most
    be a temporary one. If you lose, you have
    altered and prejudiced the position, the power,
    the prestige, the usefulness of this House
  • (Balfour of Burleigh, quoted in Jenkins 1954,
    66)

23
The Die is Cast
  • Lansdowne moves on second reading,
  • that this House is not justified in giving
    its assent to the Bill until it has been
    submitted to the judgement of the country.
  • On 28 November 1909, the Budget is defeated by
    the Lords, 75-350

24
The Aftermath
  • Two election take place in 1910
  • The January election results in a hung
    Parliament, but the Peoples Budget is passed
    after land tax dropped.
  • A December election fails to break deadlock
  • Liberals rely on Irish nationalists to govern
  • Pass the Parliament Act 1911 undercutting Lords
    veto.

25
Oligarchies are seldom destroyed and more
frequently commit suicide (Lord Reay)
  • Why did the Unionist leadership act so
    recklessly?
  • Moderates (e.g., Lytton) were free-traders,
    disliked by Whole-Hoggers (Chamberlain-protectio
    nists)
  • Balfours leadership hinged on Whole-Hoggers
  • Whole-Hoggers were a powerful lobby
  • The agents, the organisations, and the Licensed
    Victuallers Trade all demand it. They know
    nothing of, and care nothing for constitutional
    Law.

26
Policy, Office, and Votes?
  • Rejection suited the whole-hoggers policy goals
  • What, then, are the two ways, and only two
    ways, before the country of meeting the
    necessities of the nation? On the one hand, you
    may do as we are doing. You may impose. taxes
    on accumulated wealth. What is the other?, the
    only other that has yet been disclosed or even
    foreshadowed to Parliament and the country? It
    is to take a toll of the prime necessaries of
    life. it is to surround your markets with a
    tariff wall
  • (Asquith, quoted in Jenkins 1954, 64)
  • Defeating the Budget, left protectionism as the
    only alternative.
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