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Title: Working with the Dark Side a'k'a' Engineers


1
Working with the Dark Side(a.k.a. Engineers)
  • Breakfast Briefing

2
Agenda
  • Mindsets Matter
  • Taxonomy of Engineers
  • Project Milestones
  • Changes Errors
  • Nightmares Fantasies
  • CAD Coordination Basics

3
Mindsets Matter
  • Successful Architect
  • On the Cover

Successful Engineer NOT on the Cover
4
Result of Mindset
  • Motivation focused on reducing risk
  • To Career, Project Client
  • Has difficulty with subjective opinions

If respect and appreciation is present on both
sides of the equation then communication flows
naturally and does not need checklists to make
coordination happen.  Perceived lack of
respect/appreciation by Architects leads to
bunker mentality by engineershunker down,
wait out the war, and above all.stay defensive.
5
Taxonomy of Engineers
  • Engineers Engineer
  • Fluff Bluff Engineer
  • Expert Engineer
  • Designer-engineer
  • Fresh out of College engineer
  • Veteran Project Engineer
  • Superstar Engineer

6
Engineering Types
  • Engineers Engineer loves calculations, has
    tremendous capacity for detail cannot see the
    forest for the trees - often misinterprets thrust
    of questions, etc.
  • Fluff Bluff Engineer talks a great game,
    works well in the conceptual design arena is
    derided by peer engineers, high incidence of
    technical incompetence

7
Engineering Types
  • Expert Engineer has depth of theoretical
    understanding practical experience in a
    particular system or issue is the go to
    person when a thorny issue crops us can lead a
    project out of control if not managed.
  • Designer-Engineer engineer without a degree
    that came up through the ranks as a CAD drafter
    then designer is generally the best resource
    for physical layout and construction
    documentation can make fundamental mistakes.

8
Engineering Types
  • College Grad quick to learn, fast on CAD, often
    highly competent in calculations absolutely no
    physical clue as to what they are drawing
    REPRESENTS 1 SOURCE OF ENGINEERING AND
    DOCUMENTATION FOR MOST LARGER FIRMS
  • Veteran in the business 15 years, generally
    okay in all arenas (drawing, specifications,
    design, client communications, etc.), has enough
    war stories to be reasonably careful, can work
    okay in conceptual study environment, can resolve
    field problems to conclusion is known to draw
    on his/her engineering peers extensively for
    advice.
  • Superstar functions well in all arenas tends
    to populate top ranks (director, partner, owner)
    value diminishes as attention to projects is
    spread thin

9
Project Milestones
  • Project Formation
  • Block Stacking
  • Architectural DDs
  • Architectural CDs
  • Value Engineering
  • Bid Buy-Out
  • Construction

10
Project Formation
  • Infrastructure Impact
  • Cost vs. Quality
  • Budget
  • Design Schedule
  • Team Building

11
Block Stacking
  • Know basic elements of Systems (checklist)
    (size system)
  • Make sure everything fits roughly
  • Understand Main Distribution
  • Block layout equipment rooms
  • Note visible elements

12
Architectural DDs
  • Final system decided
  • Further Client Buy-In
  • Main Distribution
  • Final block layouts
  • Begin Specifications

Nothing is Final Nothing Gets Done
13
Architectural CDs
  • Partitions (in stone)
  • Life Safety (ratings code)
  • RCP (heights types)
  • Lights (layout selection)
  • T/E Plans (user code)
  • Fixtures (who specs?

Oops.the duct is 48 deep, not 4..the
substation is larger because of HVACmore
plumbing stacks are needed, rooftop dunnage,
etc..etc
14
Value Engineering
  • Conceptual Pricing Limited Use
  • Once CDs have Started NO GO
  • Process can be gamed
  • Quality vs. Cost / Cost vs. Risk

15
Post Documentation
  • Bid Buy-Out
  • Large or High-Risk Projects
  • O/A/E/C Team relationship forged
  • Additional VE Identified
  • Meetings can reveal EO in advance
  • Smaller Projects
  • Non-formal lines of communication established
  • Chance to explain design decisions
  • Litmus test for potential problems

16
Post Documentation
  • Construction
  • Field Issues
  • Engineers like to review internally
  • Behind-the-scenes buy-in / communication
  • Change order environment is key
  • Field Visits
  • Informal visits result in better contractor
    relations
  • Engineer as resource for installer (sounding
    board)
  • Owner gets sense of coverage

17
Errrs Omisions
  • Minor Changes
  • Fact of Life
  • No Change Orders / Fee ASRs
  • Three strikes your out rule
  • Contractors prefer changes packaged together
  • Major Changes
  • Hold on to your Hats..its EXPENSIVE
  • YES.. Change Orders Fee ASRs
  • Big Change Perceived Risk
  • Systems are interactive Changes Propagate

18
Errrs Omisions
  • True Errors
  • Hard to Pin Down an Engineer
  • Defense of Career / Reputation
  • Look for Smoke Screens / Shift on Contractor
    Opinion
  • Best Relationships Open acknowledgment
  • Reduce the Defensive Reflex
  • Elicit the context of the EO
  • Establish the project impact (time money)
  • Decide on a Mutual strategy

19
Engineers Nightmares
  • The non-reality Architect
  • Seeks design purity aesthetic nirvana
  • Does not appreciate ugly facts of reality
  • The change happy Architect
  • Designs by Addendum
  • Kills profit
  • Increases Risk of being Blamed for COs

20
Engineers Fantasy
  • An Architect with a Design Vision
  • Makes entire team stretch beyond normal range
  • Results in project beyond original conceptions
  • An Architect that Understands Engineers
  • Plans space for systems
  • Orchestrates communication on issues
  • Knows when to engage let engineers lay low

21
CAD Coordination Basics
  • Titleblock
  • Need as separate file
  • Need room of our logo disclaimer language
  • Need formal issue dates / titles
  • Demolition Background
  • Demo partitions on separate layer
  • Demo RCP on separate layer
  • Room name/numbers on separate layer
  • Descriptive text on separate layer

22
CAD Coordination Basics
  • New Work Background
  • Same separation of layers as demo
  • T/E outlets indicated special heights IDd
  • Lights laid out, tagged scheduled catalog
    cuts available
  • P fixtures shown you schedule or we schedule
    catalog cuts available
  • Ceiling heights coordinated
  • Life safety partition plans indicated smoke
    partitions, 1 HR, 2 HR partitions

23
Coordination Intermediate
  • Vendor Information
  • Powered furniture need power connection details
  • Special Equipment (lg. copiers, etc) need cuts
  • Kitchenettes Refrigerator, Coffee, Filter,
    Dishwasher
  • Kitchens Kitchen consultant drawings all info
  • IT Rooms Equipment heat loads power
    reliability
  • Reception desks power in millwork, etc.
  • Security power for devices, maglocks, card
    readers
  • PA / Etc. Other misc. systems Power Pathways

24
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