Title: Panel D: Theory, computing facilities and networks, Virtual Observatory Preliminary Conclusions
1Panel D Theory, computing facilities and
networks, Virtual ObservatoryPreliminary
Conclusions
- Chair Francoise Combes (Observatoire de Paris)
- Co-Chair Paolo Padovani (ESO)
- Other Panel Members Mark Allen (CDS, Strasbourg)
- James Binney
(Oxford University) - Marco de Vos (Dwingeloo)
- Åke Nordlund
(Copenhagen) - Matthias
Steinmetz (Potsdam)
2Main VO Recommendations
- Public, VO-compliant ( modern and
interoperable) archives should be the norm. Data
centres should aim to provide science-ready
data - Providers (software, theory, modelling) should
make their tools compatible with the VO - VO development should be in line with generic
e-Infrastructure - Modelling codes should be made modular so that
they can be easily be accessed through the VO
3Modeling Recommendations
- Hardware Astronomy has great benefit to
continue - to share large cutting-edge supercomputer centers
- 10 of a physics oriented center, always
updated, at the front - of the technology
- Software Astrophysical Software Laboratory ASL
- knowledge exchanges,Training, man-power (PhD,
post-docs..) - Select proposals for Petascale computers
- Future instrumentation (e.g. LOFAR, LSST, GAIA,
SKA) - will require supercomputers and networks
- Data processing and VO could be leader in
Grid-computing - (as is LHC in astro-particules)
4Panel D Discussion Session
- Various presentations on
- EURO-VO and its sustainability
- Distributed data analysis and survey production
networks (e.g., ASTROWISE) - VO implementations theory and GRID in the VO,
Pulsars, radio sources, atomic and molecular
physics - EUROPLANET
- Screensaver science
- Numerical simulations applications and
perspectives
5Astrophysical Software Laboratory (ASL)
- Frequently Asked Questions
- Inclusion of theory, even not associated to any
software - or application
- Inclusion of computer scientists
6About the ASL
- The best codes should be in the ASL, in open
source - Several codes on the same domain or problem
- code comparisons are essential for validation
- benches in case of laboratory experiments
- Fastest codes are not the most flexible
- Not only speed, but physics
- - suitable equations of state
- - radiation transport, magnetic fields
- - chemical networks
7High performance computing vs computational
astrophysics
- High performance computing
- - highly specialized and optimized
- - large computational resources needed
- - relatively small user community
- - example Cosmological simulations
- Computational astrophysics
- - flexibility and modularity over speed
- - reasonable computers are enough
- - large user community
- - example Equations of state
8Computational astrophysics
- Computers are essentials at all levels
- - to carry out large scale simulations
- - to analyze data
- - to check new ideas using a simple model
- Required not only power-horse codes
- - also packages as Numerical Recipes
- - equations of state
- - N-body codes
- - simple hydrodynamics codes
- - emphasis on modularity
- ? Skeletons that can be used to build new codes
9Virtual Observatory
- Medium/long term sustainability
- VO in Europe has been supported by the EC (FP6,
FP7) along with National and ESO ESA
commitments - data archiving and distribution, provision for
data pipelines and VO compliance appear to be on
the radar screen of new facilities - it is VITAL that there is European-wide support
for the technical infrastructure as for the
railways and the internet, continued maintenance,
support and development is required - EUROPLANET European Distributed Facility for
Planetary Computational Modelling Data Analysis - very similar issues to those of EURO-VO more
synergy needed, discussion started
10Virtual Observatory
- GRID and VO interaction unnecessarily negative,
in the report - Fraction of facilities planning to be VO
compliant (53 of those which said they were
planning an archive) misleading most major data
centres are already on-board (fraction of data
planned to be VO compliant much larger) - Interface and standards for data analysis
software - (cf Opticon FP6 network on Future Astronomical
Software - Environments)
11Ways for implementation
- How to finance the ASL
- As each facility has already included
data-processing/VO - to which level? (to be discussed)
- and also a certain percentage of outreach
activities, - ?Each facility should consider contributing 2 of
- financial cost to the ASL
12Support for theoretical investigations must be
proportional and synchronised with the great
data-gathering projects undertaken in
laboratories and observatories.
From the OECD Workshops on Future Large-Scale
Projects and Programmes in Astronomy and
Astrophysics in 2004