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Title: Panel D: Theory, computing facilities and networks, Virtual Observatory Preliminary Conclusions


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Panel D Theory, computing facilities and
networks, Virtual ObservatoryPreliminary
Conclusions
  • Chair Francoise Combes (Observatoire de Paris)
  • Co-Chair Paolo Padovani (ESO)
  • Other Panel Members Mark Allen (CDS, Strasbourg)
  • James Binney
    (Oxford University)
  • Marco de Vos (Dwingeloo)
  • Åke Nordlund
    (Copenhagen)
  • Matthias
    Steinmetz (Potsdam)

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Main VO Recommendations
  • Public, VO-compliant ( modern and
    interoperable) archives should be the norm. Data
    centres should aim to provide science-ready
    data
  • Providers (software, theory, modelling) should
    make their tools compatible with the VO
  • VO development should be in line with generic
    e-Infrastructure
  • Modelling codes should be made modular so that
    they can be easily be accessed through the VO

3
Modeling Recommendations
  • Hardware Astronomy has great benefit to
    continue
  • to share large cutting-edge supercomputer centers
  • 10 of a physics oriented center, always
    updated, at the front
  • of the technology
  • Software Astrophysical Software Laboratory ASL
  • knowledge exchanges,Training, man-power (PhD,
    post-docs..)
  • Select proposals for Petascale computers
  • Future instrumentation (e.g. LOFAR, LSST, GAIA,
    SKA)
  • will require supercomputers and networks
  • Data processing and VO could be leader in
    Grid-computing
  • (as is LHC in astro-particules)

4
Panel D Discussion Session
  • Various presentations on
  • EURO-VO and its sustainability
  • Distributed data analysis and survey production
    networks (e.g., ASTROWISE)
  • VO implementations theory and GRID in the VO,
    Pulsars, radio sources, atomic and molecular
    physics
  • EUROPLANET
  • Screensaver science
  • Numerical simulations applications and
    perspectives

5
Astrophysical Software Laboratory (ASL)
  • Frequently Asked Questions
  • Inclusion of theory, even not associated to any
    software
  • or application
  • Inclusion of computer scientists

6
About the ASL
  • The best codes should be in the ASL, in open
    source
  • Several codes on the same domain or problem
  • code comparisons are essential for validation
  • benches in case of laboratory experiments
  • Fastest codes are not the most flexible
  • Not only speed, but physics
  • - suitable equations of state
  • - radiation transport, magnetic fields
  • - chemical networks

7
High performance computing vs computational
astrophysics
  • High performance computing
  • - highly specialized and optimized
  • - large computational resources needed
  • - relatively small user community
  • - example Cosmological simulations
  • Computational astrophysics
  • - flexibility and modularity over speed
  • - reasonable computers are enough
  • - large user community
  • - example Equations of state

8
Computational astrophysics
  • Computers are essentials at all levels
  • - to carry out large scale simulations
  • - to analyze data
  • - to check new ideas using a simple model
  • Required not only power-horse codes
  • - also packages as Numerical Recipes
  • - equations of state
  • - N-body codes
  • - simple hydrodynamics codes
  • - emphasis on modularity
  • ? Skeletons that can be used to build new codes

9
Virtual Observatory
  • Medium/long term sustainability
  • VO in Europe has been supported by the EC (FP6,
    FP7) along with National and ESO ESA
    commitments
  • data archiving and distribution, provision for
    data pipelines and VO compliance appear to be on
    the radar screen of new facilities
  • it is VITAL that there is European-wide support
    for the technical infrastructure as for the
    railways and the internet, continued maintenance,
    support and development is required
  • EUROPLANET European Distributed Facility for
    Planetary Computational Modelling Data Analysis
  • very similar issues to those of EURO-VO more
    synergy needed, discussion started

10
Virtual Observatory
  • GRID and VO interaction unnecessarily negative,
    in the report
  • Fraction of facilities planning to be VO
    compliant (53 of those which said they were
    planning an archive) misleading most major data
    centres are already on-board (fraction of data
    planned to be VO compliant much larger)
  • Interface and standards for data analysis
    software
  • (cf Opticon FP6 network on Future Astronomical
    Software
  • Environments)

11
Ways for implementation
  • How to finance the ASL
  • As each facility has already included
    data-processing/VO
  • to which level? (to be discussed)
  • and also a certain percentage of outreach
    activities,
  • ?Each facility should consider contributing 2 of
  • financial cost to the ASL

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Support for theoretical investigations must be
proportional and synchronised with the great
data-gathering projects undertaken in
laboratories and observatories.
From the OECD Workshops on Future Large-Scale
Projects and Programmes in Astronomy and
Astrophysics in 2004
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