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Title: RADIUS Attribute Extension Discussion


1
RADIUS Attribute Extension Discussion
  • Monday July 10, 2006
  • Bernard Aboba
  • IETF 66, Montreal, Canada

2
Outline
  • RADIUS Attribute Space A Status Report
  • Question for the WG What do we do?
  • Proposed Solutions

3
RADIUS Attribute Space (RFC 3575)
  • RADIUS attributes types 1-255
  • Attributes 1-191 may be allocated by IETF
    Consensus.
  • Attributes 192-223 are reserved for experimental
    use
  • Attributes 224-240 are for implementation-specific
    use
  • Attributes 241-255 are reserved and should not be
    used.
  • Current status 77 attributes available for
    allocation
  • Attributes 17, 21, 54, 56-59, 89 and 123-191
    currently available for allocation
  • Attributes 17 21 allocated only after others
    have been exhausted.

4
Likely Allocation Requests
  • Completed IETF LC
  • VLAN/Priority 4
  • Delegated Prefix 1
  • IETF WG work items
  • Filter documents 3
  • RADIUS GEOPRIV 8
  • RADIUS MIPv4 31 attributes
  • Individual submissions
  • WLAN 7
  • Prepaid 5 (with sub-attributes), 20 (w/o
    sub-attributes)
  • Miscellaneous 5
  • Total 64 79

5
Summary
  • RADIUS attribute space exhaustion is possible.
  • At best, we will have 13 attributes available for
    allocation after currently chartered items are
    completed.
  • At worst, no attributes will be available.
  • We are running out of time.
  • Existing work items targeting completion in
    12-18 months.

6
A Question
  • What Do We Do About It?
  • Potential outcomes
  • WG comes to consensus on a solution
  • WG agrees that the problem is worth solving.
  • WG standardizes extended RADIUS attribute space.
  • Continued IANA allocation of RADIUS attributes
    enabled.
  • Continued IETF work on RADIUS enabled.
  • WG comes to consensus that a solution is not
    desirable
  • WG agrees that the problem is not worth solving.
  • No work needed on extended RADIUS attribute
    space.
  • When RADIUS attribute space is exhausted,
    requests for IANA allocation will be refused.
  • WG does not come to consensus on a solution
  • Same effect as above.

7
If A Solution is Desirable
  • Is the issue only RADIUS attribute extension?
  • Or is it necessary to solve other problems at the
    same time?
  • If multiple issues need to be addressed, how do
    we coordinate the response?
  • Hollywood Analogy Do we embark on a series of
    adhoc cosmetic surgeries, hoping that the nips
    tucks will fit together?

8
Sense of the Room
  • Is RADIUS attribute space exhaustion a problem
    worth solving?
  • If so, is the RADEXT WG the right place to solve
    the problem?
  • If so, is attribute exhaustion the only problem
    that should be solved?

9
Proposals Discussed in RADEXT
  • Active Drafts
  • Extended RADIUS Attributes, Barney Wolff Greg
    Weber
  • http//www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-wolff-ra
    dext-ext-attribute-00.txt
  • RADIUS/Diameter AVP Translation, David Mitton
  • http//www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-mitton-d
    iameter-radius-vsas-01.txt
  • Expired Drafts
  • RADIUS Attribute Type Extension, Avi Lior Y.
    Li
  • http//www.watersprings.org/pub/id/draft-lior-radi
    us-attribute-type-extension-00.txt

10
Extended RADIUS Attributes (Wolff Weber)
  • Diameter AVP format within RADIUS

0 1 2
3 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3
4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1
-------------------------
------- Type TBA Length
AVP Code ----------
----------------------
AVP Code V M P r r r r r
AVP Length ------------
--------------------
AVP Length Vendor-ID (opt)
-------------------
-------------
Vendor-ID (opt) Data...
------------------------
11
RADIUS/Diameter AVP Translation (Mitton)
  • Diameter AVP format within RADIUS

0 1 2
3 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1
2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1
-------------------------
------- Type TBA Length
V M P r r r r r Segment
-------------------------
------- Vendor-Id
(first segment only)
-------------------------
------- Vendor
Type (first segment only)
-------------------------
------- Data...
------------------
12
RADIUS Attribute Type Extension (Lior Li)
  • RADIUS Extended Attribute Space only

0 1 2
3 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3
4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1
-------------------------
------- Type 26 Length
Vendor-Id (0)
-------------------------
------- Vendor-Id (0)
Extended Type
-------------------------
------- Extended Type
Length Data...
-------------------------
-------
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