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Title: What infrastructure will contribute to facilitating broad participation, community growth, and the b


1
What infrastructure will contribute to
facilitating broad participation, community
growth, and the best possible science?
  • John Nousek
  • Cyclical nature of resources and impact
  • Participants in the field
  • Elements of a new field
  • Gravitational Wave Astronomy - Success
  • Barry Barish
  • One shoe doesnt fit all
  • Creating a roadmap
  • Emerging technologies
  • Gravitational Wave Astronomy
  • - Ulitimate Goal -

2
Cyclical nature of resources and impact
Participants
  • X-ray astronomy rise and fall of resources and
    the impact of those resources
  • Early participants to the field werent born
    x-ray astronomers,
  • they became x-ray astronomers
  • There are people in HS now who dont know where
    to go to get trained to become a
  • gravitational wave astronomer. We need them
    to fuel the growth of GWA.

3
Elements of a new field
  • Technology - enabling technology to allow new
    discovery
  • Physics - why discoveries teach us something
    new
  • elevator conversation
  • Data Analysis - novelty leads to new training
    knowledge by practitioners
  • People - importance of yield accessibility
    growth
  • if people dont come to the
    party, there isnt a party
  • inaccessibility wont help
    vitalize the field
  • broad participation is crucial
  • Community - self-recognition, internal
    prioritization, loyalty
  • internal organization,
    present your priorities

4
Gravitational Wave Astronomy - Success
  • Find a Gravitational Wave
  • Associate that G-wave with an object that can
    be observed by other means, HUGE!
  • Use gravitational wave astronomy as a tool to
    probe something else

5
Discussion
  • DATA
  • Spectrum from
  • Instrument builders get all the data ---- End
    users/Community members get all the data
  • somewhere there is a happy medium
  • Science timescale is SLOW if data is not shared
  • Community is built by sharing and everyone is
    contributing in a way they are best suited to
    contribute
  • GRB people kept the data close because the SNR
    is low
  • First data should be the instruments builders -
    however, dont use that as an excuse to always do
    it that way
  • Educate those in your community about the data
    analysis and instruments so they are prepared to
    look at the data the time to go from proprietary
    to public is when your community is educated and
    ready for it.

6
Discussion
  • COLLABORATION
  • Fields that grow well are able to develop a
    consensus
  • No infighting, IR argued within the field and
    it hurt them. SPITZER significantly delayed by
    infighting.
  • Dont put down your peers and their ideas.
    Present a united front.
  • Encourage leaders to go the route of consensus
    rather than pushing their individual agendas.

7
Discussion
  • BUILDING AND PRESENTING A CONSENSUS
  • Working Groups
  • Be self organizing. Talk to funding agencies,
    present the pathway yourself, usually they dont
    see the pathway.
  • Speak with one voice clearly, and tell truths
  • NATIONAL CENTERS
  • Community and national centers work hand in
    hand
  • All the pieces will(should) grow together

8
Discussion
  • CREATING A CURRICULUM
  • Need a result for students to really come on
    board
  • Concentrate on the graduate student level
  • Get your field out there, clips on CNN . keep
    it alive!

9
What infrastructure will contribute to
facilitating broad participation, community
growth, and the best possible science?
  • Barry Barish
  • One shoe doesnt fit all
  • Creating a roadmap
  • Emerging technologies
  • Gravitational Wave Astronomy
  • - Ultimate Goal -

10
One shoe doesnt fit allCreating a road map
  • Gravitational wave astronomy will develop
    differently.
  • Creating a road map
  • - What is to be accomplished?
  • - Where are we now?
  • - Where are we going?
  • - What are the paths well take?
  • - What are the tools well need?

11
Emerging Technologies
  • Neutrino Physics and Astronomy compared to
    Gravitational Wave Astronomy
  • Neutrino Physics
  • Particle Physics Astrophysics
  • v properties v beams
  • v interactions
  • Gravitational Wave Astronomy
  • Physics Astrophysics
  • G-wave properties Improved Sensitivity
  • G-wave observations

12
Emerging Technologies
  • Cryogenic
  • Broadband interferometers
  • Reflective interferometers
  • Reshaped laser beams
  • Sub-quantum limited interferometers
  • Only 1 of our resources are put into emerging
    technologies, this is not enough to grow the
    field
  • Rule of thumb from other fields need 5-10

13
Gravitational Wave Astronomy
  • Ultimate Goal Gravitational Wave Cosmology
  • Compare roadmaps between neutrino astronomy and
    gravitational wave astronomy - the key to the
    future will be in investing enough resources into
    technological development and new detectors.
  • Building community, getting the data out, all
    that wont matter without advancing technology
    and detectors.

14
Discussion
  • Astronomical sources in the middle band?
  • - if gravitational wave cosmology, then NS-NS
    binaries visible there too
  • Will there be funding for new technologies
    before a detection?
  • - gravitational wave detection is just a matter
    of time, not a question of if it will happen
  • Community building is useful if the goal is to
    get more resources, isnt it?
  • - It is a priority problem, put science first,
    community will follow.
  • - computing facilities, data analysis,
    participation of people is crucial to maximize
    resources
  • How do we sell our future? Were in a tentative
    stage right now.
  • - A central part of our story will be our long
    range plan. We need to get our priorities
    straight.
  • Lead time to build new instruments?
  • - Long- 20 years perhaps. RD work needs to be
    done in parallel.

15
Discussion
  • In terms of resources, are we people limited?
  • - resources are a bigger problem than human
    resources. People come to work that is respected.
  • Community needs to sell it, then the resources
    come when we approach the funding agencies.
    Community must buy off on investing our resources
    in advanced technologies.
  • Is there overlap in ground-based and space-based
    detector development?
  • - some overlap, not much. ESA has people working
    on both.
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