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Title: What does your relationship with God mean to you?


1
What does your relationship with God mean to you?
  • If someone wants to be right with God he must put
    Him first. (Matt 1037-39)

2
What does your relationship with God mean to you?
  • Matthew 1037-39 (NKJV) - He who loves father or
    mother more than Me is not worthy of Me. And he
    who loves son or daughter more than Me is not
    worthy of Me. 38And he who does not take his
    cross and follow after Me is not worthy of Me.
    39He who finds his life will lose it, and he who
    loses his life for My sake will find it.

3
What does your relationship with God mean to you?
  • When compromise is made in your loyalty to God,
    He calls it adultery.

4
What does your relationship with God mean to you?
  • How would you like to share your mate with
    another?

5
What does your relationship with God mean to you?
  • How would you like to share your mate with
    another?
  • This is how God views our loyalty to Him. (2 Cor
    112-4)

6
What does your relationship with God mean to you?
  • 2 Corinthians 112-4 - For I am jealous for you
    with godly jealousy. For I have betrothed you to
    one husband, that I may present you as a chaste
    virgin to Christ. 3 But I fear, lest somehow, as
    the serpent deceived Eve by his craftiness, so
    your minds may be corrupted from the simplicity
    that is in Christ.

7
What does your relationship with God mean to you?
  • 4 For if he who comes preaches another Jesus whom
    we have not preached, or if you receive a
    different spirit which you have not received, or
    a different gospel which you have not
    acceptedyou may well put up with it!

8
What does your relationship with God mean to you?
  • The nation of Israel heard their adultery
    described. (Jer 36-10)

9
What does your relationship with God mean to you?
  • Jeremiah 36-10 (NKJV) - The Lord said also to me
    in the days of Josiah the king Have you seen
    what backsliding Israel has done? She has gone up
    on every high mountain and under every green
    tree, and there played the harlot. 7And I said,
    after she had done all these things, Return to
    Me. But she did not return. And her treacherous
    sister Judah saw it.

10
What does your relationship with God mean to you?
  • 8 Then I saw that for all the causes for which
    backsliding Israel had committed adultery, I had
    put her away and given her a certificate of
    divorce yet her treacherous sister Judah did not
    fear, but went and played the harlot also. 9 So
    it came to pass, through her casual harlotry,
    that she defiled the land and committed adultery
    with stones and trees.

11
What does your relationship with God mean to you?
  • 10 And yet for all this her treacherous sister
    Judah has not turned to Me with her whole heart,
    but in pretense, says the Lord.

12
What does your relationship with God mean to you?
  • Judah in Josiahs day was doing many good things
    outwardly. Why?

13
What does your relationship with God mean to you?
  • Judah in Josiahs day was doing many good things
    outwardly. Why?
  • Because they followed a good king, Josiah.

14
What does your relationship with God mean to you?
  • Judah in Josiahs day was doing many good things
    outwardly. Why?
  • Because they followed a good king, Josiah.
  • God said they were not true in their hearts. This
    is what God sees.

15
Two Kinds of Fellowship
  • There is fellowship with God. (1 John 11-3)

16
Two Kinds of Fellowship
  • 1 John 11-3 - That which was from the beginning,
    which we have heard, which we have seen with our
    eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands
    have handled, concerning the Word of life2the
    life was manifested, and we have seen, and bear
    witness, and declare to you that eternal life
    which was with the Father and was manifested to us

17
Two Kinds of Fellowship
  • 3 that which we have seen and heard we declare to
    you, that you also may have fellowship with us
    and truly our fellowship is with the Father and
    with His Son Jesus Christ.

18
Two Kinds of Fellowship
  • What is fellowship? Koinonia - Communion,
    fellowship, sharing in common...

19
Two Kinds of Fellowship
  • What is fellowship? Koinonia - Communion,
    fellowship, sharing in common...
  • Fellowship always has an object! In this case it
    is fellowship with God!

20
Two Kinds of Fellowship
  • God dwells in us as Christians. We share in
    eternal life which is from God.
    (Acts 238 1 Cor 619-20)

21
Two Kinds of Fellowship
  • Acts 238 (NKJV) - Then Peter said to them,
    Repent, and let every one of you be baptized in
    the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of
    sins and you shall receive the gift of the Holy
    Spirit.

22
Two Kinds of Fellowship
  • 1 Corinthians 619-20 (NKJV) - Or do you not know
    that your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit
    who is in you, whom you have from God, and you
    are not your own? 20 For you were bought at a
    price therefore glorify God in your body and in
    your spirit, which are Gods.

23
Two Kinds of Fellowship
  • There is our fellowship with other Christians.
    (2 Cor 614 Gal 29 1 Cor 1223-27)

24
Two Kinds of Fellowship
  • 2 Corinthians 614 (NKJV) - Do not be unequally
    yoked together with unbelievers. For what
    fellowship has righteousness with lawlessness?
    And what communion has light with darkness?

25
Two Kinds of Fellowship
  • Galatians 29 (NKJV) - and when James, Cephas,
    and John, who seemed to be pillars, perceived the
    grace that had been given to me, they gave me and
    Barnabas the right hand of fellowship, that we
    should go to the Gentiles and they to the
    circumcised.

26
Two Kinds of Fellowship
  • 1 Corinthians 1223-27 (NKJV) - And those members
    of the body which we think to be less honorable,
    on these we bestow greater honor and our
    unpresentable parts have greater modesty, 24 but
    our presentable parts have no need. But God
    composed the body, having given greater honor to
    that part which lacks it,

27
Two Kinds of Fellowship
  • 25 that there should be no schism in the body,
    but that the members should have the same care
    for one another. 26 And if one member suffers,
    all the members suffer with it or if one member
    is honored, all the members rejoice with it. 27
    Now you are the body of Christ, and members
    individually.

28
Two Kinds of Fellowship
  • This relationship has its foundation in an
    underlying fellowship with God.

29
Two Kinds of Fellowship
  • Here we share with one another spiritual
    encouragement, we recognize one another as
    Christians, and we share together in things
    Christians are to do together.

30
Two Kinds of Fellowship
  • Here we share with one another spiritual
    encouragement, we recognize one another as
    Christians, and we share together in things
    Christians are to do together.
  • Consider the spiritual fellowship we have as
    Christians. (Acts 242 1 Cor 1016-17, 21-22)

31
Two Kinds of Fellowship
  • Acts 242 (NKJV) - And they continued steadfastly
    in the apostles doctrine and fellowship, in the
    breaking of bread, and in prayers.

32
Two Kinds of Fellowship
  • 1 Corinthians 1016-17 (NKJV) - The cup of
    blessing which we bless, is it not the communion
    of the blood of Christ? The bread which we break,
    is it not the communion of the body of Christ?
    17For we, though many, are one bread and one
    body for we all partake of that one bread.

33
Two Kinds of Fellowship
  • 1 Corinthians 1021-22 (NKJV) - You cannot drink
    the cup of the Lord and the cup of demons you
    cannot partake of the Lords table and of the
    table of demons. 22Or do we provoke the Lord to
    jealousy? Are we stronger than He?

34
The Biblical Bounds of Fellowship
  • Before we extend fellowship to others as
    Christians, we must make a judgment as to
    whether they are faithful to God. (1 John 15-7)

35
The Biblical Bounds of Fellowship
  • 1 John 15-7 (NKJV) - This is the message which
    we have heard from Him and declare to you, that
    God is light and in Him is no darkness at all. 6
    If we say that we have fellowship with Him, and
    walk in darkness, we lie and do not practice the
    truth. 7 But if we walk in the light as He is in
    the light, we have fellowship with one another,
    and the blood of Jesus Christ His Son cleanses us
    from all sin.

36
The Biblical Bounds of Fellowship
  • We need to ask Is this one a Christian? (Acts
    926)

37
The Biblical Bounds of Fellowship
  • Acts 926 (NKJV) - And when Saul had come to
    Jerusalem, he tried to join the disciples but
    they were all afraid of him, and did not believe
    that he was a disciple.

38
The Biblical Bounds of Fellowship
  • We also need to ask Is this one a faithful
    Christian? (1 John 34-10 Eph 511)

39
The Biblical Bounds of Fellowship
  • 1 John 34-10 (NKJV) - Whoever commits sin also
    commits lawlessness, and sin is lawlessness. 5And
    you know that He was manifested to take away our
    sins, and in Him there is no sin. 6Whoever abides
    in Him does not sin. Whoever sins has neither
    seen Him nor known Him.

40
The Biblical Bounds of Fellowship
  • 7 Little children, let no one deceive you. He who
    practices righteousness is righteous, just as He
    is righteous. 8 He who sins is of the devil, for
    the devil has sinned from the beginning. For this
    purpose the Son of God was manifested, that He
    might destroy the works of the devil.

41
The Biblical Bounds of Fellowship
  • 9 Whoever has been born of God does not sin, for
    His seed remains in him and he cannot sin,
    because he has been born of God. 10 In this the
    children of God and the children of the devil are
    manifest Whoever does not practice righteousness
    is not of God, nor is he who does not love his
    brother.

42
The Biblical Bounds of Fellowship
  • Ephesians 511 (NKJV) - And have no fellowship
    with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather
    expose them.

43
The Biblical Bounds of Fellowship
  • There are limits to this kind of judgment. We are
    no trying to take Gods place! (1 Cor 42-4)

44
The Biblical Bounds of Fellowship
  • 1 Corinthians 42-4 (NKJV) - Moreover it is
    required in stewards that one be found faithful.
    3 But with me it is a very small thing that I
    should be judged by you or by a human court. In
    fact, I do not even judge myself. 4 For I know of
    nothing against myself, yet I am not justified by
    this but He who judges me is the Lord.

45
The Biblical Bounds of Fellowship
  • Why does this church exist? What is the primary
    reason for our relationship with one another? It
    is not the restoration heritage but the cross
    of Christ! (Gal 614)

46
The Biblical Bounds of Fellowship
  • Galatians 614 (NKJV) - But God forbid that I
    should boast except in the cross of our Lord
    Jesus Christ, by whom the world has been
    crucified to me, and I to the world.

47
The Biblical Bounds of Fellowship
  • What is our attitude toward other brothers and
    sisters in Christ? Do we view them as one for
    whom Christ died? (Rom 1415, 20)

48
The Biblical Bounds of Fellowship
  • Romans 1415 (NKJV) - Yet if your brother is
    grieved because of your food, you are no longer
    walking in love. Do not destroy with your food
    the one for whom Christ died.

49
The Biblical Bounds of Fellowship
  • Romans 1420 (NKJV) - Do not destroy the work of
    God for the sake of food. All things indeed are
    pure, but it is evil for the man who eats with
    offense.

50
The Biblical Bounds of Fellowship
  • We can be wrong in our judgment.

51
The Biblical Bounds of Fellowship
  • We can be wrong in our judgment.
  • The Christians at Jerusalem were wrong at first
    about Paul. (Acts 926)

52
The Biblical Bounds of Fellowship
  • Acts 926 (NKJV) - And when Saul had come to
    Jerusalem, he tried to join the disciples but
    they were all afraid of him, and did not believe
    that he was a disciple.

53
The Biblical Bounds of Fellowship
  • They did discover their error and correct it!
    (Acts 927-28)

54
The Biblical Bounds of Fellowship
  • Acts 927-28 (NKJV) - But Barnabas took him and
    brought him to the apostles. And he declared to
    them how he had seen the Lord on the road, and
    that He had spoken to him, and how he had
    preached boldly at Damascus in the name of Jesus.
    28So he was with them at Jerusalem, coming in and
    going out.

55
The Biblical Bounds of Fellowship
  • We must never let the fear of We could be
    wrong, keep us from doing what the Lord demands!

56
The Biblical Bounds of Fellowship
  • We must never let the fear of We could be
    wrong, keep us from doing what the Lord demands!
  • The church at Corinth refused, at first, to
    withdraw from one practicing sin.
    (1 Cor 51-3)

57
The Biblical Bounds of Fellowship
  • 1 Corinthians 51-3 (NKJV) - It is actually
    reported that there is sexual immorality among
    you, and such sexual immorality as is not even
    named among the Gentilesthat a man has his
    fathers wife! 2And you are puffed up, and have
    not rather mourned, that he who has done this
    deed might be taken away from among you.

58
The Biblical Bounds of Fellowship
  • 3For I indeed, as absent in body but present in
    spirit, have already judged (as though I were
    present) him who has so done this deed.

59
The Biblical Bounds of Fellowship
  • There is a standard upon which fellowship is
    based.

60
The Biblical Bounds of Fellowship
  • There is a standard upon which fellowship is
    based.
  • The New Testament is our standard. (2 Thess 36,
    14 Rom 1617 1 Jn 46)

61
The Biblical Bounds of Fellowship
  • 2 Thessalonians 36 (NKJV) - But we command you,
    brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ,
    that you withdraw from every brother who walks
    disorderly and not according to the tradition
    which he received from us.

62
The Biblical Bounds of Fellowship
  • 2 Thessalonians 314 (NKJV) - And if anyone does
    not obey our word in this epistle, note that
    person and do not keep company with him, that he
    may be ashamed.

63
The Biblical Bounds of Fellowship
  • Romans 1617 (NKJV) - Now I urge you, brethren,
    note those who cause divisions and offenses,
    contrary to the doctrine which you learned, and
    avoid them.

64
The Biblical Bounds of Fellowship
  • 1 John 46 (NKJV) - We are of God. He who knows
    God hears us he who is not of God does not hear
    us. By this we know the spirit of truth and the
    spirit of error.

65
The Biblical Bounds of Fellowship
  • Some have asked What is the doctrine of
    Christ? (2 John 9)

66
The Biblical Bounds of Fellowship
  • 2 John 19 (NKJV) - Whoever transgresses and does
    not abide in the doctrine of Christ does not have
    God. He who abides in the doctrine of Christ has
    both the Father and the Son.

67
The Biblical Bounds of Fellowship
  • The doctrine of Christ is what Christ taught.
    (John 1248 Rev 214)

68
The Biblical Bounds of Fellowship
  • John 1248 (NKJV) - He who rejects Me, and does
    not receive My words, has that which judges
    himthe word that I have spoken will judge him in
    the last day.

69
The Biblical Bounds of Fellowship
  • Revelation 214 (NKJV) - But I have a few things
    against you, because you have there those who
    hold the doctrine of Balaam, who taught Balak to
    put a stumbling block before the children of
    Israel, to eat things sacrificed to idols, and to
    commit sexual immorality.

70
The Biblical Bounds of Fellowship
  • How do we extend fellowship?

71
The Biblical Bounds of Fellowship
  • How do we extend fellowship?
  • By recognizing and greeting one as a faithful
    brother. (2 John 9-11)

72
The Biblical Bounds of Fellowship
  • 2 John 9-11 (NKJV) - Whoever transgresses and
    does not abide in the doctrine of Christ does not
    have God. He who abides in the doctrine of Christ
    has both the Father and the Son. 10If anyone
    comes to you and does not bring this doctrine, do
    not receive him into your house nor greet him
    11for he who greets him shares in his evil deeds.

73
The Biblical Bounds of Fellowship
  • By supporting one in their teaching. (3 John 5-8)

74
The Biblical Bounds of Fellowship
  • 3 John 15-8 (NKJV) - Beloved, you do faithfully
    whatever you do for the brethren and for
    strangers, 6who have borne witness of your love
    before the church. If you send them forward on
    their journey in a manner worthy of God, you will
    do well, 7 because they went forth for His names
    sake, taking nothing from the Gentiles.

75
The Biblical Bounds of Fellowship
  • 8 We therefore ought to receive such, that we may
    become fellow workers for the truth.

76
The Biblical Bounds of Fellowship
  • By associating with one because they are right
    with God. (1 Cor 59-11 2 Thess 314-15)

77
The Biblical Bounds of Fellowship
  • 1 Corinthians 59-11 (NKJV) - I wrote to you in
    my epistle not to keep company with sexually
    immoral people. 10Yet I certainly did not mean
    with the sexually immoral people of this world,
    or with the covetous, or extortioners, or
    idolaters, since then you would need to go out of
    the world.

78
The Biblical Bounds of Fellowship
  • 11 But now I have written to you not to keep
    company with anyone named a brother, who is
    sexually immoral, or covetous, or an idolater, or
    a reviler, or a drunkard, or an extortionernot
    even to eat with such a person.

79
The Biblical Bounds of Fellowship
  • 2 Thessalonians 314-15 (NKJV) - And if anyone
    does not obey our word in this epistle, note that
    person and do not keep company with him, that he
    may be ashamed. 15Yet do not count him as an
    enemy, but admonish him as a brother.

80
The Biblical Bounds of Fellowship
  • We can be wrong in our judgment.

81
The Biblical Bounds of Fellowship
  • We can be wrong in our judgment.
  • The Christians at Jerusalem were wrong at first
    about Paul. (Acts 926)

82
The Biblical Bounds of Fellowship
  • Acts 926 (NKJV) - And when Saul had come to
    Jerusalem, he tried to join the disciples but
    they were all afraid of him, and did not believe
    that he was a disciple.

83
The Biblical Bounds of Fellowship
  • They did discover their error and correct it!
    (Acts 927-28)

84
The Biblical Bounds of Fellowship
  • Acts 927-28 (NKJV) - But Barnabas took him and
    brought him to the apostles. And he declared to
    them how he had seen the Lord on the road, and
    that He had spoken to him, and how he had
    preached boldly at Damascus in the name of Jesus.
    28 So he was with them at Jerusalem, coming in
    and going out.

85
The Biblical Bounds of Fellowship
  • We must never let the fear of We could be
    wrong, keep us from doing what the Lord demands!

86
The Biblical Bounds of Fellowship
  • We must never let the fear of We could be
    wrong, keep us from doing what the Lord demands!
  • The church at Corinth refused, at first, to
    withdraw from one practicing sin.
    (1 Cor 51-3)

87
The Biblical Bounds of Fellowship
  • 1 Corinthians 51-3 (NKJV) - It is actually
    reported that there is sexual immorality among
    you, and such sexual immorality as is not even
    named among the Gentilesthat a man has his
    fathers wife! 2 And you are puffed up, and have
    not rather mourned, that he who has done this
    deed might be taken away from among you.

88
The Biblical Bounds of Fellowship
  • 3 For I indeed, as absent in body but present in
    spirit, have already judged (as though I were
    present) him who has so done this deed.

89
The Biblical Bounds of Fellowship
  • There is a standard upon which fellowship is
    based.

90
The Biblical Bounds of Fellowship
  • There is a standard upon which fellowship is
    based.
  • The New Testament is our standard. (2 Thess 36,
    14 Rom 1617 1 Jn 46)

91
The Biblical Bounds of Fellowship
  • 2 Thessalonians 36 (NKJV) - But we command you,
    brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ,
    that you withdraw from every brother who walks
    disorderly and not according to the tradition
    which he received from us.

92
The Biblical Bounds of Fellowship
  • 2 Thessalonians 314 (NKJV) - And if anyone does
    not obey our word in this epistle, note that
    person and do not keep company with him, that he
    may be ashamed.

93
The Biblical Bounds of Fellowship
  • Romans 1617 (NKJV)- Now I urge you, brethren,
    note those who cause divisions and offenses,
    contrary to the doctrine which you learned, and
    avoid them.

94
The Biblical Bounds of Fellowship
  • 1 John 46 (NKJV) - We are of God. He who knows
    God hears us he who is not of God does not hear
    us. By this we know the spirit of truth and the
    spirit of error.

95
The Biblical Bounds of Fellowship
  • Some have asked What is the doctrine of
    Christ? (2 John 9)

96
The Biblical Bounds of Fellowship
  • 2 John 9 (NKJV) - Whoever transgresses and does
    not abide in the doctrine of Christ does not have
    God. He who abides in the doctrine of Christ has
    both the Father and the Son.

97
The Biblical Bounds of Fellowship
  • The doctrine of Christ is what Christ taught.
    (John 1248 Rev 214)

98
The Biblical Bounds of Fellowship
  • John 1248 (NKJV) - He who rejects Me, and does
    not receive My words, has that which judges
    himthe word that I have spoken will judge him in
    the last day.

99
The Biblical Bounds of Fellowship
  • Revelation 214 (NKJV) - But I have a few things
    against you, because you have there those who
    hold the doctrine of Balaam, who taught Balak to
    put a stumbling block before the children of
    Israel, to eat things sacrificed to idols, and to
    commit sexual immorality.

100
The Biblical Bounds of Fellowship
  • Revelation 214 (NKJV) - But I have a few things
    against you, because you have there those who
    hold the doctrine of Balaam, who taught Balak to
    put a stumbling block before the children of
    Israel, to eat things sacrificed to idols, and to
    commit sexual immorality.

101
The Biblical Bounds of Fellowship
  • How do we extend fellowship?

102
The Biblical Bounds of Fellowship
  • How do we extend fellowship?
  • By recognizing and greeting one as a faithful
    brother. (2 John 9-11)

103
The Biblical Bounds of Fellowship
  • 2 John 9-11 (NKJV) - Whoever transgresses and
    does not abide in the doctrine of Christ does not
    have God. He who abides in the doctrine of Christ
    has both the Father and the Son. 10 If anyone
    comes to you and does not bring this doctrine, do
    not receive him into your house nor greet him
    11for he who greets him shares in his evil deeds.

104
The Biblical Bounds of Fellowship
  • By supporting one in their teaching. (3 John 5-8)

105
The Biblical Bounds of Fellowship
  • 3 John 15-8 (NKJV) - Beloved, you do faithfully
    whatever you do for the brethren and for
    strangers, 6 who have borne witness of your love
    before the church. If you send them forward on
    their journey in a manner worthy of God, you will
    do well, 7 because they went forth for His names
    sake, taking nothing from the Gentiles.

106
The Biblical Bounds of Fellowship
  • 8 We therefore ought to receive such, that we may
    become fellow workers for the truth.

107
The Biblical Bounds of Fellowship
  • By associating with one because they are right
    with God. (1 Cor 59-11 2 Thess 314-15)

108
The Biblical Bounds of Fellowship
  • 1 Corinthians 59-11 (NKJV) - I wrote to you in
    my epistle not to keep company with sexually
    immoral people. 10 Yet I certainly did not mean
    with the sexually immoral people of this world,
    or with the covetous, or extortioners, or
    idolaters, since then you would need to go out of
    the world.

109
The Biblical Bounds of Fellowship
  • 11 But now I have written to you not to keep
    company with anyone named a brother, who is
    sexually immoral, or covetous, or an idolater, or
    a reviler, or a drunkard, or an extortionernot
    even to eat with such a person.

110
The Biblical Bounds of Fellowship
  • 2 Thessalonians 314-15 (NKJV) - And if anyone
    does not obey our word in this epistle, note that
    person and do not keep company with him, that he
    may be ashamed. 15 Yet do not count him as an
    enemy, but admonish him as a brother.

111
Views of Fellowship --- Then and Now
  • In the 50s and 60s there was gradual acceptance
    of allowing men to come for meetings who
    had departed from basic Bible teachings.

112
Views of Fellowship --- Then and Now
  • In the 50s and 60s there was gradual acceptance
    of allowing men to come for meetings who
    had departed from basic Bible teachings.
  • Often these men were attached to large sponsoring
    churches or church colleges. To many his gave
    them instant credibility.

113
Views of Fellowship --- Then and Now
  • In the place these men worked they did not teach
    the things they believed publicly, but often
    spread these things in private. (Jude 3-4)

114
Views of Fellowship --- Then and Now
  • Jude 13-4 (NKJV) - Beloved, while I was very
    diligent to write to you concerning our common
    salvation, I found it necessary to write to you
    exhorting you to contend earnestly for the faith
    which was once for all delivered to the saints.

115
Views of Fellowship --- Then and Now
  • 4 For certain men have crept in unnoticed, who
    long ago were marked out for this condemnation,
    ungodly men, who turn the grace of our God into
    lewdness and deny the only Lord God and our Lord
    Jesus Christ.

116
Views of Fellowship --- Then and Now
  • In time these institutions were allowing these
    men to go unchecked.

117
Views of Fellowship --- Then and Now
  • In time these institutions were allowing these
    men to go unchecked.
  • Today the Institutional churches have come to
    reap a harvest.

118
Views of Fellowship --- Then and Now
  • Most of the large institutions have now
    completely fallen under the control of the
    change agents.

119
Views of Fellowship --- Then and Now
  • Most of the large institutions have now
    completely fallen under the control of the
    change agents.
  • Where the influence of these institutions was
    welded in the 50s and 60s to protect their
    support from church treasuries, this same power
    is being used today to push out the Patternist.

120
Views of Fellowship --- Then and Now
  • Here are the current views of fellowship.

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Views of Fellowship --- Then and Now
  • We can fellowship churches that use instruments
    of music.

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Views of Fellowship --- Then and Now
  • When I asked Buddy how he viewed the Christian
    Church, he floored me by boldly saying that he
    was in "FULL FELLOWSHIP WITH THEM." Since I
    couldn't believe what I had just heard, I asked
    him the second time, "You are in full fellowship
    with them?" Buddy said, "I feel that way. Buddy
    Bell Returns To Montgomery, Alabama! - Ray
    Dutton, Seek the Old Paths

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Views of Fellowship --- Then and Now
  • We can fellowship all believers in Christ, which
    includes the mainline denominations.

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Views of Fellowship --- Then and Now
  • We can fellowship all believers in Christ, which
    includes the mainline denominations.
  • Sometimes there is open fellowship in the
    exchanging of pulpits. (Ex. Max Lucado at a
    Baptist church When I see a believer, I see a
    brother.)

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Views of Fellowship --- Then and Now
  • We can fellowship all believers in Christ, which
    includes the mainline denominations.
  • Sometimes there is open fellowship in the
    exchanging of pulpits. (Ex. Max Lucado at a
    Baptist church When I see a believer, I see a
    brother.)
  • Sometimes this open fellowship in done in
    special meetings.

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Views of Fellowship --- Then and Now
  • We express concern for our sister congregation,
    the Covington Road church in Natchez, in their
    recent decision to be involved with a Baptist
    denominational group known as "World Changers."
    Denominations are man-made institutions with
    earthly headquarters, manuals, organizations,
    plans of salvation, worships and works.

127
Views of Fellowship --- Then and Now
  • They are not the church of the New Testament, as
    is evident from the Scriptures, and work contrary
    to the Truth of God....

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Views of Fellowship --- Then and Now
  • ...In receiving the Covington Road News
    bulletins and being informed of the coming of the
    "World Changers" to Natchez, one would consider
    them to be our Christian youth from churches
    across the country. They were not! They were
    Southern Baptist youth. The bulletins were
    deceptive in that this was never mentioned. It
    was through the local newspaper that we learned
    that the youth were Southern Baptists.

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Views of Fellowship --- Then and Now
  • The June issue of the bulletin says, "Let us
    plan, pray and work for this good effort...." (We
    acknowledge the work to be good work but the
    fellowship is unscriptural and sinful. We are to
    "have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of
    darkness but rather reprove them" (Eph. 511).

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Views of Fellowship --- Then and Now
  • The following July bulletins state "We encourage
    any -- especially our youth -- to be involved in
    this manual labor on behalf of others and to
    God's glory." "We look forward to this
    opportunity to serve the needs of others in our
    community may God bless our efforts..." -
    Covington Road Church Further Fractures
    Fellowship, Joe W. Nichols

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Views of Fellowship --- Then and Now
  • The Promise Keepers group is the current tool
    used by many to encourage open fellowship.

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Views of Fellowship --- Then and Now
  • ...on having fellowship with denominational
    churches. I have already pointed out that he
    claims to be in "full fellowship" with the
    Christian Church. When I questioned him about
    fellowshipping the Baptists and Methodists, he
    looked at me and said, "I'm going to fellowship
    them where I can fellowship them." To prove his
    point he brought up "Promise Keepers."

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Views of Fellowship --- Then and Now
  • To my surprise he openly stated that he was going
    to be, in his words, "real comfortable rejoicing
    with those people about Jesus on what He's
    done."....

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Views of Fellowship --- Then and Now
  • Buddy thinks we should "rejoice" with these
    purveyors of error, but again Paul warned Titus
    that "there are many unruly and vain talkers and
    deceivers, specially they of the circumcision,
    whose mouths must be stopped, who subvert whole
    houses, teaching things which they ought not, for
    filthy lucre's sake" (Titus 110-11).

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Views of Fellowship --- Then and Now
  • How can we support and encourage these false
    teachers at "Promise Keepers" or any other
    denominational endeavor when Paul says that their
    "mouths must be stopped? Buddy Bell Returns To
    Montgomery, Alabama! - Ray Dutton

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Views of Fellowship --- Then and Now
  • The only thing essential to salvation is the plan
    of salvation.

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Views of Fellowship --- Then and Now
  • My first question for Buddy was "Who are the
    saved?" Buddy said that he felt that if he and I
    were teaching a non-Christian that our answers
    would be the same. He then stated to me that he
    believed that baptism was essential. I, then,
    asked him if a person could believe what the
    Baptists and Methodists teach about salvation and
    be saved. He did not answer YES or NO.

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Views of Fellowship --- Then and Now
  • He hedged by saying that he wasn't sure whether a
    person had to understand that baptism was for the
    remission of sins.

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Views of Fellowship --- Then and Now
  • Since his answer troubled me, I asked him if he
    believed Baptists are SAVED. Again, he responded
    that he had a hard time answering that, and that
    he had some real mixed emotions about that. So I
    asked him if he considered them brothers and
    sisters in the Lord's fellowship. His answer
    "Probably some I would. Buddy Bell Returns To
    Montgomery, Alabama! - Ray Dutton, Seek the Old
    Paths

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Views of Fellowship --- Then and Now
  • Many are swapping pulpits with denominations and
    giving up baptism as essential for salvation!

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Views of Fellowship --- Then and Now
  • Max Lucado - Radio Station KJAK, Lubbock, Texas -
    December 1996 Just turn your heart to him even
    right now as I am speaking. Call him your Father.
    And your Father will respond. Why don't you do
    that?

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Views of Fellowship --- Then and Now
  • Instrumental music playing in background
    "Father, I give my heart to you. I give you my
    sins, I give you my tears, I give you my fears,
    I give you my whole life. I accept the gift of
    your Son on the cross for my sins. And I ask you,
    Father, to receive me as your child. Through
    Jesus I pray. Amen.

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Views of Fellowship --- Then and Now
  • ANNOUNCER And friend, if you prayed along with
    Max Lucado just now, here on UPWARDS, we want to
    welcome you into the family of God. We hope you
    will contact us and share your personal
    testimony. If you are already a believer, we
    thank you for praying for these new brothers and
    sisters in Christ..

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Views of Fellowship --- Then and Now
  • Now Max Lucado returns with a special word for
    those who received the gift of salvation just
    moments ago in prayer. MAX LUCADO instrumental
    music playing in the background

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Views of Fellowship --- Then and Now
  • Today is the first day you've ever prayed a
    prayer like that. Could you do me a favor? Could
    you write me a letter? I don't have anything I am
    going to ask from you. I do have a letter I would
    like to send to you, I'd like to give you a word
    about the next step or two.

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Views of Fellowship --- Then and Now
  • I want to encourage you to find a church, I want
    to encourage you to be baptized, I want to
    encourage you to read your Bible. But I don't
    want you to do any of that so that you will be
    saved. I want you to do all of that because you
    are saved. You see, your Father has a great life
    planned for you, and I want to tell you about it.
    Give us a call, and drop me a note.

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Views of Fellowship --- Then and Now
  • And, thanks my friend, for making the greatest
    decision of your life. I'll be back on Monday. I
    hope you will be too. Transcribed from the tape.

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Arguments for a Broader Fellowship.
  • We cannot know if one is right or wrong on....

149
Arguments for a Broader Fellowship.
  • We cannot know if one is right or wrong on....
  • Some have asked me this Do you have all
    knowledge? If I say No, then they follow How
    then can you be sure you are right about this?
    My answer is I may not know ALL THINGS, but I
    do know SOME THINGS!

150
Arguments for a Broader Fellowship.
  • Why do some people not know? (Luke 1029 Jn
    319-21)

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Arguments for a Broader Fellowship.
  • Luke 1029 (NKJV) - But he, wanting to justify
    himself, said to Jesus, And who is my neighbor?

152
Arguments for a Broader Fellowship.
  • John 319-21 (NKJV) - And this is the
    condemnation, that the light has come into the
    world, and men loved darkness rather than light,
    because their deeds were evil. 20 For everyone
    practicing evil hates the light and does not come
    to the light, lest his deeds should be exposed.
    21 But he who does the truth comes to the light,
    that his deeds may be clearly seen, that they
    have been done in God.

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Arguments for a Broader Fellowship.
  • Churches are stagnating, we will become extinct!

154
Arguments for a Broader Fellowship.
  • Churches are stagnating, we will become extinct!
  • If this is so, let us then seek Gods solutions.

155
Arguments for a Broader Fellowship.
  • Churches are stagnating, we will become extinct!
  • If this is so, let us then seek Gods solutions.
  • Why do we exist? (Gal 220)

156
Arguments for a Broader Fellowship.
  • Galatians 220 (NKJV) - I have been crucified
    with Christ it is no longer I who live, but
    Christ lives in me and the life which I now live
    in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God,
    who loved me and gave Himself for me.

157
Arguments for a Broader Fellowship.
  • Because of bad personal experiences.

158
Arguments for a Broader Fellowship.
  • Because of bad personal experiences.
  • The most common cause of these departures is
    what I call Reactionary Apostasy.

159
Arguments for a Broader Fellowship.
  • What is wrong with this thinking? (Rom 34)

160
Arguments for a Broader Fellowship.
  • Romans 34 (NKJV) - Certainly not! Indeed, let
    God be true but every man a liar. As it is
    written That You may be justified in Your
    words, And may overcome when You are judged.

161
Arguments for a Broader Fellowship.
  • Is it right to get mad at the dog, and kick the
    cat?

162
Arguments for a Broader Fellowship.
  • Because of a subjective view of how to know Gods
    will.

163
Arguments for a Broader Fellowship.
  • Because of a subjective view of how to know Gods
    will.
  • Some have viewed themselves so close to God as to
    be above being challenged. These feel that they
    just know what God wants without looking at the
    scriptures.

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Arguments for a Broader Fellowship.
  • Because of a subjective view of how to know Gods
    will.
  • Some have viewed themselves so close to God as to
    be above being challenged. These feel that they
    just know what God wants without looking at the
    scriptures.
  • This is pride! (1 Cor 81-2)

165
Arguments for a Broader Fellowship.
  • 1 Corinthians 81-2 (NKJV) - Now concerning
    things offered to idols We know that we all have
    knowledge. Knowledge puffs up, but love edifies.
    2 And if anyone thinks that he knows anything, he
    knows nothing yet as he ought to know.

166
Arguments for a Broader Fellowship.
  • Others have let their desire to be with others
    cause them to re-think fellowship.

167
Arguments for a Broader Fellowship.
  • Others have let their desire to be with others
    cause them to re-think fellowship.
  • Because we should be tolerant!

168
Arguments for a Broader Fellowship.
  • Who defines tolerant, God or the current
    culture?

169
Arguments for a Broader Fellowship.
  • But here it's important to remember what is
    meant by Tolerance" in a relativist society. It
    doesn't mean what used to mean permitting each
    person the right to believe (or disbelieve)
    according to his own conscience. That would be a
    respect for religious freedom far too noble for a
    secular society bent on the eradication of
    religious faith.

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Arguments for a Broader Fellowship.
  • In sharp contrast, today's "tolerance" means
    having to accept all values, truths, and beliefs
    (no matter how morally bankrupt) as equally
    valid. - The Cultural Church, p. 78-79

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Consequences of a Broader Fellowship
  • Fellowship in time will determine practice. (1
    Cor 55-6)

172
Consequences of a Broader Fellowship
  • 1 Corinthians 55-6 (NKJV) - deliver such a one
    to Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that
    his spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord
    Jesus. Your glorying is not good. Do you not know
    that a little leaven leavens the whole lump?

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Consequences of a Broader Fellowship
  • This is not a new path! Consider again the
    experience of the Disciples of Christ
    Denomination.

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Consequences of a Broader Fellowship
  • This is not a new path! Consider again the
    experience of the Disciples of Christ
    Denomination.
  • Even if you hold steadfast your views what will
    become of your children?

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Consequences of a Broader Fellowship
  • Even now many country churches that have not had
    the slightest idea about what was occurring are
    now being influences by the children and
    newcomers who attended the Christian colleges
    and large city churches. Many have found
    themselves in a minority on a very fast train.

176
Consequences of a Broader Fellowship
  • Even now many country churches that have not had
    the slightest idea about what was occurring are
    now being influences by the children and
    newcomers who attended the Christian colleges
    and large city churches. Many have found
    themselves in a minority on a very fast train.
  • The openness of today will become withdrawn in
    the future.

177
Consequences of a Broader Fellowship
  • J. W. McGarvey learned a lesson the hard way in
    his middle of the road position on fellowship.

178
Consequences of a Broader Fellowship
  • If you want to influence someone with Gods
    wisdom, take a stand! (2 Cor 614-17)

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Consequences of a Broader Fellowship
  • 2 Corinthians 614-17 (NKJV) - Do not be
    unequally yoked together with unbelievers. For
    what fellowship has righteousness with
    lawlessness? And what communion has light with
    darkness? 15And what accord has Christ with
    Belial? Or what part has a believer with an
    unbeliever?

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Consequences of a Broader Fellowship
  • 16And what agreement has the temple of God with
    idols? For you are the temple of the living God.
    As God has said I will dwell in them And walk
    among them. I will be their God, And they shall
    be My people. 17 Therefore Come out from among
    them And be separate, says the Lord. Do not touch
    what is unclean, And I will receive you.

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Consequences of a Broader Fellowship
  • God will view me as practicing the things that I
    encourage others in.

182
Consequences of a Broader Fellowship
  • God will view me as practicing the things that I
    encourage others in.
  • I will be held accountable! (1 Tim 522 2 John
    9-11)

183
Consequences of a Broader Fellowship
  • 1 Timothy 522 (NKJV) - Do not lay hands on
    anyone hastily, nor share in other peoples sins
    keep yourself pure.

184
Consequences of a Broader Fellowship
  • 2 John 19-11 (NKJV) - Whoever transgresses and
    does not abide in the doctrine of Christ does not
    have God. He who abides in the doctrine of Christ
    has both the Father and the Son. 10If anyone
    comes to you and does not bring this doctrine, do
    not receive him into your house nor greet him
    11for he who greets him shares in his evil deeds.

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Consequences of a Broader Fellowship
  • What is my goal? Do I want others to change.

186
Consequences of a Broader Fellowship
  • What is my goal? Do I want others to change.
  • Who do I really want to have fellowship with?

187
Consequences of a Broader Fellowship
  • What is my goal? Do I want others to change.
  • Who do I really want to have fellowship with?
  • While some say they want to be right with God,
    they in fact want to please men. (Gal
    110)

188
Consequences of a Broader Fellowship
  • Galatians 110 (NKJV) - For do I now persuade
    men, or God? Or do I seek to please men? For if I
    still pleased men, I would not be a bondservant
    of Christ.

189
Consequences of a Broader Fellowship
  • While we may fool men, God knows our heart!

190
Consequences of a Broader Fellowship
  • While we may fool men, God knows our heart!
  • I have talked with men about what was right and
    what they needed to do.

191
Consequences of a Broader Fellowship
  • Even though they have agreed with me, I have
    often heard the refusal to stand rationalized
    like this It is hard to do what is right!

192
Consequences of a Broader Fellowship
  • Even though they have agreed with me, I have
    often heard the refusal to stand rationalized
    like this It is hard to do what is right!
  • What will heaven be like?

193
Consequences of a Broader Fellowship
  • Even though they have agreed with me, I have
    often heard the refusal to stand rationalized
    like this It is hard to do what is right!
  • What will heaven be like?
  • It will be filled with men of faith who at times
    had to stand alone. (Heb 1132-38)

194
Consequences of a Broader Fellowship
  • Hebrews 1132-38 (NKJV) - And what more shall I
    say? For the time would fail me to tell of Gideon
    and Barak and Samson and Jephthah, also of David
    and Samuel and the prophets 33 who through faith
    subdued kingdoms, worked righteousness, obtained
    promises, stopped the mouths of lions,

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Consequences of a Broader Fellowship
  • 34 quenched the violence of fire, escaped the
    edge of the sword, out of weakness were made
    strong, became valiant in battle, turned to
    flight the armies of the aliens. 35 Women
    received their dead raised to life again. Others
    were tortured, not accepting deliverance, that
    they might obtain a better resurrection.

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Consequences of a Broader Fellowship
  • 36 Still others had trial of mockings and
    scourgings, yes, and of chains and imprisonment.
    37 They were stoned, they were sawn in two, were
    tempted, were slain with the sword. They wandered
    about in sheepskins and goatskins, being
    destitute, afflicted, tormented38 of whom the
    world was not worthy. They wandered in deserts
    and mountains, in dens and caves of the earth.

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Consequences of a Broader Fellowship
  • Have you heard of these men?

198
Consequences of a Broader Fellowship
  • Have you heard of these men?
  • Sethur? Gaddiel? Palti? Shaphat? Nahbi?

199
Consequences of a Broader Fellowship
  • Have you heard of these men?
  • Sethur? Gaddiel? Palti? Shaphat? Nahbi?
  • How about these men? Caleb? Joshua?
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