PEO’s Engineering Internship Training Program

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PEOs Engineering Internship Training Program

• Manoj Choudhary, M.Eng., P.Eng.

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Objectives

• Role of PEO
• Admissions vs. Pre-licensing Unit
• Enforcement vs. Discipline
• Licensing Requirements
• Engineering Experience
• Benefits of Engineering Intern Program Student
  Membership Program

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Practice of Engineering

• Any act of designing, composing, evaluating,
  advising, reporting, directing or supervising
• Wherein the safeguarding of life, health,
  property or the public welfare is concerned
• That requires the application of engineering
  principles (does not include practicing as a
  natural scientist).

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PEOs Role Function

• Who - self regulating body for P. Engs.
• What - regulate and set standards
• Where - across the province of Ontario
• When - 1922 right to title 1932 right to
  practice
• Why - Public safety and welfare
• How - Admissions, discipline and enforcement

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Admissions Unit

• Keep all relevant information related to your
  application
• Respond to requests for information
• Refer to your application number in all contact
  with PEO
• Ensure that all of your contact information is
  accurate

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Admissions Unit

• Your Admissions Representative is
• Your primary PEO contact to answer all licensing
  process status of file questions
• Responsible for timely follow up of requests
• Responsible for updating your application file
• Exception Questions related to the quality of
  the experience requirements should be directed to
  the Pre-licensing Unit

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Enforcement Unit

• Enforcement v. Discipline
• ENFORCEMENT - Concerned with practice of
  professional engineering by non-engineers,
  improper use of engineering titles by
  non-engineers, and unauthorized independent
  practice by engineers without a C of A.
• DISCIPLINE Handles complaints against licensed
  engineers for incompetence, negligence, or
  professional misconduct.

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Enforcement Unit

• Employer relations use of titles
• The purpose of title protection is to make it
  clear who is a licensed engineer. Improper use
  of engineer in job title can be confusing.
• Be polite. Explain why you cant call yourself
  an engineer yet.
• Get in touch with us. We will happy to explain
  it to your employer.

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Enforcement Unit

• DOs
• DO call us (if you hear about a person wrongfully
  calling themselves an engineer).
• DO practice professional engineering (under the
  proper supervision).
• DO read the Professional Engineers Act.

• DONTs
• DONT call yourself an engineer.
• DONT forget that the engineer you work for is
  responsible for your actions.
• DONT rely on other peoples interpretation of
  the Act.

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Enforcement Unit

• Enforcement hotline
• 416-840-1444 or 1-800-339-3716, Ext. 1444
• Use of the enforcement hotline
• For inquiries or to report instances of
  unlicensed practice, illegal title use or
  unauthorized practice.

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Licensing Requirements

• Acceptable engineering education
• Professional Practice Examination
• Good character (i.e. no criminal record)
• References (all supervisors a minimum of one
  P.Eng.)
• 48 months acceptable engineering experience (12
  months must be within a Canadian jurisdiction)

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PEO Licensure Flow Diagram
Experience Assessment After completion of a
minimum of 48 months of work experience
Professional Practice Exam Mandatory for
all Applicants no exceptions
2 year limit to attempt PPE
More Experience Required
Failure To attempt PPE Within Time limit Or
pass PPE within 3 attempts
Exams waived
Optional Staff Referral Interview
or
Pass
Not waived
Acceptable Experience
Fail
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Professional Practice Examination

• 3 hours total - Part A (Ethics), Part B (Law)
• 4 essay-style questions per section, similar
  structure each time
• Exam samples available for purchase from PEO
• April, August December sittings
• Locations throughout Ontario embassies around
  the world

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Engineering Experience

• 5 Required Elements
• Application of Theory
• Practical Experience
• Management of Engineering
• Communication Skills
• Social Implications of Engineering

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Application of Theory

• Refer to specific engineering principles
• What options are available to you?
• What important parameters did you consider?
• Why is the selected method appropriate under the
  circumstances?

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Practical Experience

• What considerations did you have to make due to
  real world conditions?
• What codes and standards did you use as part of
  your engineering work?
• Why was it necessary to refer to these what is
  the basis for these?
• How did limitations of time, material, personnel,
  etc. affect your engineering work?

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Management of Engineering

• These are the business aspects of engineering,
  such as
• Planning
• Scheduling
• Budgeting
• How do these concepts fit into the engineering
  work that you do?
• Are you responsible for controlling any of these
  that affect other members of the team?
• Have your responsibilities increased in this
  area? How?

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Communication Skills

• How do you report your work?
• Any written reports? Who receives these?
• Opportunities for presentations?
• Participation in meetings?
• Any examples of having to promote your
  engineering ideas through a reporting mechanism?
  What was the result?

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Social Implications of Engineering

• What are the potential effects, both positive and
  negative, of the engineering project?
• How are negative effects mitigated?
• Who are the end users of the engineering work?
  Were they consulted on the project? How?
• What involvement have you had in the process?

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Pre-Graduation Experience

• Reg. 941 33. (1) 3.
• Eligible for up to 12 months credit
• After completing 50 of course work
• Not eligible for the required 12 months of
  Canadian jurisdictional experience
• PEO Policy
• Related to course and career
• Assessed after 12 months post-graduate
  experience.

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Engineering Masters or PhD

• PEO Policy
• Completed degrees - 12 months experience
• Same discipline or closely related to your
  bachelor of engineering degree
• Only one degree applies
• Not eligible for the required 12 months of
  Canadian jurisdictional experience

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Applied Research

• Industry supported
• Company requests and sponsors research
• Company must have immediate practical use for the
  research and
• P. Eng. from company must be a referee
• Only time worked at company location under
  supervision of P.Eng. Referee can be credited.
• Can count for 12 months of Canadian engineering
  experience

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Experience Assessment Tools

• Required
• Summary of experience provided by the candidate
  (may also include earlier EIT reviews/guidance
  and subsequent response by candidate)
• Referees evaluations covering all reported time
  periods (may also include follow-up discussions
  with referees)
• Optional
• ERC and/or Staff referral interviews (if items 1
  or 2 above are not satisfactory or complete)

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Example of Experience Layout
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Engineering Experience Record

• Not a Resume
• Include specific engineering work that you
  performed
• Explain the nature of problems you solved
• Identify design/analysis factors you considered

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Referee Requirements

• Minimum legal requirement one P. Eng.
• supervisor for one year
• Ideal goal one direct P. Eng. supervisor plus
  another P. Eng. familiar with your work, per
  place of employment, over the entire 48 months.
• Supervisors must be sufficiently familiar with
  the details of the candidates work
• Note If this is all that is provided, an
  experience interview will be arranged.

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Cross-Discipline

• PEOs Concern Work experience is not in
  compliance with educational background
• Must provide us with evidence of educational
  courses or training to bridge the gap between
  your educational background and the work
  undertaken

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Sales, Marketing and Patent Activities

• PEOs Concern Little or no requirement for
  engineering expertise and/or opportunity to
  practice engineering training autonomously
• Must provide us with specific examples of
  hands-on involvement and contribution to solving
  the clients problems
• Describe to us your engineering thought
  processes, rather than simply promoting
  employers equipment/products

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Project Management and Supervision

• PEOs Concern business role not requiring
  engineering training
• The Candidate should demonstrate through specific
  examples that his/ her role includes solving
  engineering technical problems that the
  subordinates are not able to, instead of
  delegating all technical problems

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Quality Engineering Experience

• PEO Concern Inspections/testing/ for
  verification purposes only, is technician level
• Must demonstrate involvement with process design
  modifications as a result of findings of
  non-conformances, including the application of
  engineering analysis or calculations

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Licensure Unit

• Assessment Tools
• Summary of experience presented by the candidate
• Referees Evaluations and interaction with
  referees
• ERC interviews (ARC and/or Staff referrals)

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Licensure Unit

• Referee Requirements
• All direct supervisors
• Minimum legal requirement one P. Eng. supervisor
  for one year
• Ideal goal one direct P. Eng. supervisor plus
  another
• P. Eng. familiar with your work, per place of
  employment, over the entire 48 months.
• If this is all that is provided, an experience
  interview will be arranged.

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Licensure Unit

• Professional Engineers who serve as Supervisors
  or Referees are expected to
• Provide guidance, encouragement and support to
  the candidate
• Be familiar with the candidates work through
  direct supervision or ongoing contact
• Be able to attest that the work experience
  qualifies within the five established criteria
• Confirm that 48 months of experience as well as
  other P. Eng. requirements are met

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Licensure Unit

• Staff Referrals
• Cross-discipline candidates
• Sales Representatives
• Supervision and coordination
• Project management including Planning, Scheduling
  and Cost Estimation
• Technician-level work including inspection and
  testing for verification purposes only (QA/QC)
• Teaching/Research without industrial application

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EIT Program

• Use of EIT title (serious about licensing)
• Inclusion in PEO members directory
• Met academic qualifications
• Review of work experience
• Individual guidance
• Engineering Dimensions
• Participate in local Chapters
• Eligible to join OSPE and take advantage of their
  Career Centre other member services (insurance
  and investment plans)

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SMP - Objectives

• Increase level of professional awareness
  behaviour
• Promote better communication between students and
  the engineering community
• Standardize the delivery of PEOs programs and
  activities to students
• Provide a seamless transition from student
  through to licensed P.Eng.

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SMP - Benefits

• Link to the engineering community through on-line
  information, Engineering Dimensions Magazine (see
  your EngSoc office on campus), Chapter
  involvement surveys
• Questions about engineering answered through your
  web connection to PEO
• Participation means that your voice is heard and
  you your opinions are counted!
• FREE

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Financial Credit Program (FCP)

• CEAB Graduate Students
• PEO will waive Lic. Application fee
• FREE EIT Membership First Year
• Must apply on-line within six months of Grad.
• www.peo.on.ca/FCP/FCP1.html

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EIT Program Information

• Manoj Choudhary, P.Eng.
• Manager, Prelicensing Programs
• Jeannette Chau, P.Eng.
• EIT Officer
• www.peo.on.ca