Title: The Bible and Culture 26 March 2006 Interpreting Genesis: From Augustine to Richard Dawkins Ken Smit
1The Bible and Culture26 March 2006
Interpreting GenesisFrom Augustineto Richard
DawkinsKen Smith
2From Hanbury Brown, The Wisdom of Science, page
168
3Consumer warning!
Mathematics is like an addiction, or a disease
you can never truly shake it off, even if you
want to. Ian Stewart in Does God Play Dice?
The New Mathematics of Chaos, (1997), page 120.
4Two Sermons in 1953 1
In the beginning God created the heavens and the
earth. Genesis 11, RSV text. Sermon 1 God
created in the beginning. So Hoyles idea of
continuous creation still going on is wrong
it contradicts Holy Scripture.
5Two Sermons in 1953 2
In the beginning, when God began to create the
heavens and the earth, Genesis 11, RSV
margin. Sermon 2 Fred Hoyle has shown that God
the Creator is continually pouring vast amounts
of energy into the universe and He is still
doing it!
6Science and Theology
Science has had to hand the language of
mathematics, which we have seen has proved to be
perfectly fitted to the description of the
fundamental structure of the physical world.
Theology has no words adequate to encompass the
mystery of the divine nature. John
Polkinghorne, Belief in God in an Age of Science
(1998), page 37.
7Mathematics and Theology
Mathematics plays a critically important role in
both philosophy and theology, even if theologians
seem slow to appreciate this. Augustine is one
of a relatively small group of theologians who
regarded mathematics as having theological
significance. . . . Mathematics enables the
order within the world to be identified and seen
as an aspect of the harmony within the creation,
grounded in the being of God. Alister McGrath,
A Scientific Theology II Reality (2002), page
170.
8Gallium room temperature?
Melts at 29.76 C
9Religion and Science
Science is the game we play with God to find
out what his rules are. Internet, late 20th
century
10Augustine and Science (a)
Usually, even a non-Christian knows something
about the earth, the heavens, and the other
elements of this world, about the motion and
orbit of the stars and even their size and
relative positions, about the predictable
eclipses of the sun and moon, the cycles of the
years and the seasons, about the kinds of
animals, shrubs, stones, and so forth, and this
knowledge he holds to, as being certain from
reason and experience. Now, it is a disgraceful
and dangerous thing for an infidel to hear a
Christian, presumably giving the meaning of Holy
Scripture, talking nonsense on these topics and
we should take all means to prevent such an
embarrassing situation, in which people show up
vast ignorance in a Christian and laugh it to
scorn. . . .
11Augustine and Science (b)
The shame is not so much that an ignorant
individual is derided, but that people outside
the household of faith think our sacred writers
held such opinions, and, to the great loss of
those for whose salvation we toil, the writers of
our Scripture are criticized and rejected as
unlearned men. If they find a Christian mistaken
in a field which they themselves know well and
hear him maintaining his foolish opinions about
our books, how are they going to believe those
books in matters concerning the resurrection of
the dead, the hope of eternal life, and the
kingdom of heaven, when they think their pages
are full of falsehoods on facts which they
themselves have learned from experience and the
light of reason? . . .
12Augustine and Science (c)
Reckless and incompetent expounders of Holy
Scripture bring untold trouble and sorrow on
their wiser brethren when they are caught in one
of their mischievous false opinions and are taken
to task by those who are not bound by the
authority of our sacred books. Augustine of
Hippo, The Literal Meaning of Genesis, circa
400, Book 1, chapter 19, section 39.
13To be sure, those five books are not enough to
deal with all the extravagant folly and
perversity of our opponents nor would any
number of additional books suffice. That is
clear to all. Stupidity glories in never
yielding to the force of truth that is how it
effects the ruin of anyone who is under the
dominion of this monstrous moral fault. It is a
disease proof against all efforts to treat it,
not through any fault in the physician, but
because the patient is himself incurable.Augusti
ne, City of God, c. 420, Preface to Book VI.
14Creation vs Creationism
- Creation In theology, the notion that the
Universe was brought into being out of nothing by
the free act of God, hence termed the creator. - Creationism the doctrine that God creates de
nihilo a fresh soul for each human individual at
its conception or birth. - Both the above are from F. L. Cross and E. A.
Livingstone, The Oxford Dictionary of the
Christian Church, 2nd ed., 1974.
15Some Legal History
- The titles of the chapters in Edward G. Larson's
Trial and Error The American Controversy Over
Creation and Evolution (3rd ed., 2003) read - 1. Scene of the Crime Evolution in American
Education Before 1920 - 2. Outlawing Evolution, 1920-1925
- 3. Enforcing the Law, 1925-1960
- 4. Legalizing Evolution, 1961-1970
- 5. Legislating Equal Time, 1970-1981
- 6. Outlawing Creation, 1981-1990
- 7. Mandating Evolution The 1990s and beyond
16Outlawing Evolution Scopes
- The Scopes trial in Dayton, Tennessee, in 1925,
is well-known. The best modern work on this is
Edward G. Larson, Summer for the Gods The Scopes
Trial and Americas Continuing Debate over
Science and Religion (1997), which won the 1998
Pulitzer prize in history. - The book is divided into three parts dealing,
respectively, with events before, during, and
after the trial. It is not widely known that the
guilty verdict against Scopes was quashed the
judge imposed a fine of 100, when he was not
empowered to impose a fine exceeding 50.
17Outlawing Creationism Arkansas
- The 1981 trial over the Arkansas
creation-science law was widely reported in the
media at the time. Two books provide details of
the case. - Marcel,C. La Follette, Creationism, Science and
the Law The Arkansas Case (1983), includes the
law itself, Judge Overtons ruling, and various
articles commenting on the issues involved. - Langdon G. Gilkey, Creationism on Trial
Evolution and God at Little Rock (1985) is in two
parts. The first part recounts Gilkeys
experiences as a witness in the trial (on the
evolution side) the second part contains some
reflections on the issues involved.
18Outlawing Intelligent Design Dover
- The case in Dover, Pennsylvania, before Judge
Jones at the end of 2005, has not yet received
full-length treatment in a book. There is a vast
amount of stuff about it on various Web sites,
including complete transcripts of all the
evidence and the verdict. - Judge Jones, a Republican appointed by George
Bush, was scathing in his comments about the ID
proponents, including It is ironic that several
of these individuals, who so staunchly and
proudly touted their religious convictions in
public, would time and again lie to cover their
tracks and disguise the real purpose behind the
ID policy.
19Dover Intelligent Design
- Both Defendants and many of the leading
proponents of ID make a bedrock assumption which
is utterly false. Their presupposition is that
evolutionary theory is antithetical to a belief
in the existence of a supreme being and to
religion in general. Repeatedly in this trial,
Plaintiff's scientific experts testified that the
theory of evolution represents good science, is
overwhelmingly accepted by the scientific
community, and that it in no way conflicts with,
nor does it deny existence of a divine creator. - Judge Jones, Memorandum Opinion, December 20,
2005. Transcript, page 136.
20Dover Intelligent Design
- In fact, on cross-examination, Professor Behe
was questioned concerning his 1996 claim that
science would never find an evolutionary
explanation for the immune system. He was
presented with fifty- eight peer-reviewed
publications, nine books, and several immunology
textbook chapters about the immune system
however, he simply insisted that this was still
not sufficient evidence of evolution, and that it
was not good enough. - Judge Jones, Memorandum Opinion, December 20,
2005. Transcript, page 78.
21. . . science would never find . . .
- When a distinguished but elderly scientist
states that something is possible, he is almost
certainly right. When he states that something
is impossible, he is very probably wrong. - The First Law of Arthur C. Clarke
- Arthur C. Clarke, in a May 1967 talk Technology
and the Future, reprinted as chapter 14 in
Report on Planet Three and Other Speculations,
(Corgi Books, 1973), page 146.
22Modern Creationism
- One of the most surprising phenomena of the
second half of the twentieth century has been the
resurgence of creationism not a compromising
amalgamation of evolutionary thought with
theistic overtones, but a clear-cut,
Bible-centered, literalistic, young-earth special
creationism. Accompanying this has been the
concurrent development of a clear-cut,
nonreligious, nonevolutionary scientific
creationism. (emphasis in the original) - Henry M. Morris, A History of Modern Creationism,
1974, page 13.
23Modern Creationism
- . . . a clear-cut, nonreligious, nonevolutionary
scientific creationism. ??? nonreligious ???
24Modern Creationism
- . . . a clear-cut, nonreligious, nonevolutionary
scientific creationism. ??? nonreligious ??? - The Tenets of Scientific Creationism.
- 1. The physical universe of space, time, matter,
and energy has not always existed, but was
supernaturally created by a transcendent personal
Creator, who alone has existed from eternity. - Henry M. Morris, A History of Modern Creationism,
1974, Appendix G (page 362).
25The Creationist Bible
- In 1961 John C. Whitcomb, Jr., and Henry M.
Morris published The Genesis Flood The Biblical
Record and Its Scientific Implications. This is
still being reprinted in unaltered form,
something which would be unheard of in science. - The subtitle gives the game away at the start
the authors start with an interpretation of the
Bible, assumed to be correct, and then see what
corrections need to be made to science to bring
it into line with their ideas. This is spelled
out in detail in the Preface to the sixth
printing.
26The Creationist Bible
- We believe that the Bible, as the verbally
inspired and completely inerrant Word of God,
gives us the true framework of historical and
scientific interpretation, as well as of
so-called religious truth. This one is of
special creation of all things, complete and
perfect in the beginning, followed by the
introduction of a universal principle of decay
and death into the world after mans sin,
culminating in a worldwide cataclysmic
destruction of the world that then was by the
Genesis Flood. We take this revealed framework
of history as our basic datum, . . . - Whitcomb and Morris, The Genesis Flood, page xxvi.
27The Creationist Bible
- It is at this point that the authors feel that
these critical reviewers have been most unfair.
As we have stressed repeatedly in our book, the
real issue is not the correctness of the
interpretation of various details of the
geological data, but simply what God has revealed
in His Word concerning these matters. That is
why the first four chapters and the two
appendices are devoted to a detailed exposition
and analysis of the Biblical teachings on
creation, the Flood, and related topics. - Whitcomb and Morris, The Genesis Flood, p. xxvii.
28 Creation or Creationism? In many
conservative Christian circles the question Do
you believe in creation? is understood to mean
Do you believe in creationism?, where
creationism is as defined by Morris.This can
lead to much mutual confusion and
misunderstanding.It leads to further confusion
Do you believe in creation or evolution?
29Bizarre Creationism AD 1981
- All that creation-science requires is that the
entity which caused creation have power,
intelligence, and a sense of design. There are
no attributes of the personality generally
associated with a deity, nor is there necessarily
present in the creator any love, compassion,
sense of justice, or concern for any individuals.
Indeed, under creation-science as defined in Act
590, there is no requirement that the entity
which caused creation still be in existence. - Trial Brief for creationist case quoted from
Marcel C. La Follette, Creationism, Science and
the Law The Arkansas Case, 1983, page 41.
30Creationism/Creationists
- We can understand much about creationists from
this point of view. In particular, we can
understand their obsession with creation over
almost all other religious themes, their
insistence on the scientific truth of the
biblical story, and their refusal to participate
in, or even take seriously, either modern
biblical scholarship or modern study of
religion. - Paul Hollenbach, Creation Belief in the Bible and
Religions, chapter 10 in David B. Wilson (ed.)
Did the Devil make Darwin Do It? Modern
Perspectives on the Creation-Evolution
Controversy, 1983. The quotation is from page
146.
31What Is Creationism?
- Although I never met George McCready Price, his
tremendous breadth of knowledge in science and
scripture, his careful logic, and his beautiful
writing style made a profound impression on me
when I first began studying these great
themes,back in the early 1940s. - I first encountered his name in one of Harry
Rimmer's books (see the discussion of Rimmer
later in this chapter) and thereupon looked up
his book The New Geology in the library . . .
This was in early 1943, and it was a
life-changing experience for me.
(emphasis added) - Henry M. Morris, A History of Modern Creationism,
1984. Quote is from page 80.
32What Is Creationism?
- Although many evangelicals who regarded
themselves as creationists, from Billy Graham to
Jimmy Lee Swaggart, resisted the allure of
scientific creationism, by the last decades of
the twentieth century Prices intellectual heirs
had virtually co-opted the creationist label for
their own interests. Even their severest critics
often conceded as much. - Ronald L. Numbers, Creating Creationism Meanings
and Uses Since the Age of Agassiz, chapter 2 in
his Darwinism Comes to America, 1998. Quote is
from page 56.
33What Is Creationism?
- Latter-day flood geologists may not have liked
being lumped together with godless evolutionists
as enemies of true science (and religion), but
they could only have appreciated the often
grudging but increasingly widespread recognition
that their once marginal views, inspired by the
visions of an obscure Adventist prophetess, now
defined the very essence of creationism. - Ronald L. Numbers, Creating Creationism Meanings
and Uses Since the Age of Agassiz, chapter 2 in
his Darwinism Comes to America, 1998. Quote is
from page 57.
34 Creationism/Creationists. . . creationists
have become very adept at exploiting the
technological fruits of science to proclaim their
antiscientific message.Robert Pennock, Tower
of Babel, 1999, page 31.
35Creationism and Evolutionism
- It may be true that scientism and evolutionism
(not science and evolution) are among the causes
of atheism and materialism. It is at least
equally true that biblical literalism, from its
earlier flat-earth and geocentric forms to its
recent young-earth and flood-geology forms, is
one of the major causes of atheism and
materialism. Many scientists and intellectuals
have simply taken the literalists at their word
and rejected biblical materials as being
superseded or contradicted by modern science. . .
. they have concluded that it is nobler to be
damned by the literalists than to dismiss the
best testimony of research and reason.
Intellectual honesty and integrity demand it. - Conrad Hyers, The Meaning of Creation Genesis
and Modern Science, 1984 Quotation is from page
26.
36Creator and Creation
- It has been only too easy to dismiss the
biblical teaching of Creator and creation by
dismissing scientific creationism. It has been
equally easy to conclude that scientific evidence
leads to naturalistic conclusions and a
nonreligious world view, since scientific and
religious statements have already been placed on
the same level. If the resulting evolutionism
offers a kind of dinosaur religion, by the same
logic biblical literalism turns religion into a
dinosaur. - Conrad Hyers, The Meaning of Creation Genesis
and Modern Science, 1984. Quotation is from page
26.
37 Creationism and Islam
I hope that by means of this book Muslims will
remind themselves of their contributions to the
theory of evolution predating Charles Darwin and
stop propagating the Christian fundamentalist
doctrine of creationism in the community. I hope
also that Muslims will join hands with mainstream
scientists to prevent the corruption of
public-school science curricula with
pseudoscience. T. O. Shanavas, Creation and/or
Evolution An Islamic Perspective, 2005, page 13.
38Origin of the Universe
- A prediction from general relativity
- . . . and secondly, that there is a
singularity in our past which constitutes, in
some sense, a beginning to the universe. - S. W. Hawking and G. R. F. Ellis, The Large Scale
Structure of Space-Time, 1973. The quote is from
page xi in the Preface.
39My Public Involvement
- I fully support the decision of the Board of
Secondary School Studies and its Science Advisory
Comittee to include the teaching of evolution as
a component of the core syllabus for Senior
Biology, and the decision not to include
Creation Science as a compulsory component of
Senior Biology. Indeed Creation Science as it
is espoused by its supporters has no place in the
syllabus of any science subject. - Professor Cliff Hawkins, Dean of Science,
University of Queensland, in a letter to the
Minister for Education. - At its meeting on May 6, 1984, the Board of the
Faculty of Science endorsed the letter sent by
the Dean, by a vote of 80 to 1, with 9 members
requesting that they be recorded as abstaining,
since the issue did not involve science.
40Age of the Earth/Universe AD 420
- The world was in fact made with time, if at the
time of its creation change and motion came into
existence. This is clearly the situation in the
order of the first six or seven days, in which
morning and evening are named, until God's
creation was finished on the sixth day, and on
the seventh day God's rest is emphasized as
something conveying a mystic meaning. What kind
of days these are is difficult or even impossible
for us to imagine, to say nothing of describing
them. (emphasis added) - Augustine of Hippo, City of God, completed 426,
book XI, chapter 6.
41Age of the Earth/Universe AD 1681
- Now for the number and length of the six days
by what is said above you may make the first day
as long as you please, and the second day too if
there was no diurnal motion till there was a
terraqueous globe, that is till towards the end
of that days work. - Isaac Newton, letter to Rev. Thomas Burnet,
January 1681.
42Age of the Earth/Universe AD 1871
- It is of course admitted that, taking this
account by itself, it would be most natural to
understand the word in its ordinary sense but if
that sense brings the Mosaic account into
conflict with facts, and another sense avoids
such conflict, then it is obligatory on us to
adopt that other. Now it is urged that if the
word day be taken in the sense of an
indefinite period of time, a sense which it
undoubtedly has in other parts of Scripture,
there is not only no discrepancy between the
Mosaic account of the creation and the assumed
facts of geology, . . . - Charles Hodge, Systematic Theology, vol. I, pp.
570-571.
43Age of the Earth/Universe AD 1917
- If the intention of the first chapter of Genesis
was really to give us the date of the creation
of the earth and heavens, the objection would be
unanswerable. But things, as in the case of
astronomy, are now better understood, and few are
disquieted in reading their Bibles because it is
made certain that the world is immensely older
than the 6,000 years which the older chronology
gave it. Geology is felt only to have expanded
our ideas of the vastness and marvel of the
Creators operations through the aeons of time .
. . - James Orr, Science and Christian Faith, chapter
XVIII in The Fundamentals, vol. 1, 1917. Quote
from pages 343-4.
44Age of the Earth/Universe AD 1984
- . . . what may we say about the how of God's
creative activity? Not many Christians today
find it necessary to defend the concept of a
literal six-day creation, for the text does not
demand it, and scientific discovery appears to
contradict it. The biblical text presents itself
not as a scientific treatise but as a highly
stylised literary statement (deliberately framed
in three pairs, the fourth day corresponding to
the first, the fifth to the second, and the sixth
to the third). Moreover the geological evidence
for a gradual development over thousands of
millions of years seems conclusive. - (emphasis added)
- John Stott, Understanding the Bible, 1984 (2nd
edition). Quote is from page 47.
45Conservative Theologians and Evolution
- One way of jolting discussion about science and
theology out of the fervent, but also
intellectually barren, standoffs recent decades
is to note one of the best-kept secrets in
American intellectual history. B. B. Warfield,
the ablest modern defender of the theologically
conservative doctrine of the inerrancy of the
Bible, was also an evolutionist. - Mark Noll and David Livingstone (eds.), B. B.
Warfield Evolution, Science, and Scripture
Selected Writings, 2000, page 14.
46Conservative Theologians and Evolution
- Warfield's formulation of biblical inerrancy, in
fact, has been a theological mainstay for recent
creationist convictions about the origin of the
earth and its species. Yet Warfield was also a
cautious, discriminating, but entirely candid
proponent of the possibility that evolution might
offer the best way to understand the natural
history of the earth and of humankind. - Mark Noll and David Livingstone (eds.), B. B.
Warfield Evolution, Science, and Scripture
Selected Writings, 2000, page 15.
47Conservative Theologians and Evolution
- In research for this book I discovered that
there are two traditions in Bible and Science
both stemming from the developments of the
nineteenth century. There is the ignoble
tradition which has taken a most unwholesome
attitude tpward science, and has used arguments
not in the better traditions of established
scholarship. There has been and is a noble
tradition in Bible and science, and this is the
tradition of the great and learned evangelical
Christians who have been patient, genuine, and
kind and who have taken great care to learn the
facts of science and Scripture. . . . - Bernard Ramm, The Christian View of Science and
Scripture, 1955, page 8.
48Conservative Theologians and Evolution
- Unfortunately the noble tradition which was in
ascendancy during the closing years of the
nineteenth century has not been the major
tradition in evangelicalism in the twentieth
century. A narrow bibliolatry, the product not
of faith but of fear, buried the noble tradition.
The sad result has been that . . . science has
repudiated the ignoble tradition. . . . It is
our wish to call evangelicalism back to the noble
tradition . . . - Bernard Ramm, The Christian View of Science and
Scripture, 1955, page 9.
49Conservative Theologians and Evolution
- Indeed, speaking for myself, I cannot see that
at least some forms of the theory of evolution
contradict or are contradicted by the Genesis
account of creation. It is most unfortunate that
some who debate this issue begin by assuming that
the words creation and evolution are mutually
exclusive. If everything has come into existence
through evolution, they say, then biblical
creation has been disproved, whereas if God
created all things, then evolution must be false.
It is, rather, this naive alternative which is
false. - John Stott, Understanding the Bible, 1984, page
48.
50From Hanbury Brown, The Wisdom of Science, page
159.
51Genesis and Evolution
- The phrase after his/their kind occurs 10 times
in Genesis 1. This phrase translates a single
Hebrew word, which occurs in the same grammatical
form throughout the Hebrew scriptures an
attached (inseparable is the technical term)
preposition, the word min (pronounced mean),
and a suffix indicating gender. It occurs
elsewhere 21 times, in Genesis 6 and 7 (animals
taken onto the ark), Leviticus 11 and Deuteronomy
14 (dietary rules), and Ezekiel 47 (once here
fish in a river). - Contrary to the text of Genesis 1, creationists
claim that this means animals reproduce after
their kind.
52Genesis and Evolution
- Most modern translations render the word by a
phrase like different kinds of . . . Even the
conservative Living Bible follows this, as does
the New International Version in Genesis 6,
Leviticus and Deuteronomy. However the NIV
retains according to their kinds in Genesis 1,
doubtless for theological reasons. Why the NIV
uses this phrase in Genesis 7 but not in Genesis
6 must remain a mystery. - Since reproduction is far from the context,
except (possibly) for plants in Genesis 1, there
is no reason, other than theological bias, for
the claim.
53What is a kind ?
- In the above discussion we have defined a basic
kind as including all those variants which have
been derived from a single stock. . . .
54What is a kind ?
- In the above discussion we have defined a basic
kind as including all those variants which have
been derived from a single stock. . . . Among
the vertebrates, the fishes, amphibians,
reptiles, birds, and mammals are obviously
different basic kinds. . . .
55What is a kind ?
- In the above discussion we have defined a basic
kind as including all those variants which have
been derived from a single stock. . . . Among
the vertebrates, the fishes, amphibians,
reptiles, birds, and mammals are obviously
different basic kinds. . . . Within the
mammalian class, duckbilled platypuses, opposums,
bats, hedgehogs, rats, rabbits, dogs, cats,
lemurs, monkeys, apes, and men are easily
assignable to different basic kinds. . . .
56What is a kind ?
- In the above discussion we have defined a basic
kind as including all those variants which have
been derived from a single stock. . . . Among
the vertebrates, the fishes, amphibians,
reptiles, birds, and mammals are obviously
different basic kinds. . . . Within the
mammalian class, duckbilled platypuses, opposums,
bats, hedgehogs, rats, rabbits, dogs, cats,
lemurs, monkeys, apes, and men are easily
assignable to different basic kinds. Among the
apes, the gibbons, orangutans, chimpanzees, and
gorillas would each be included in a different
basic kind. - Duane Gish, Evolution The Fossils Say No!, 1973
(2nd edition), page 20.
57What Is Darwinism? AD 1874
We have thus arrived at the answer to our
question, What is Darwinism? It is Atheism.
This does not mean, as before said, that Mr.
Darwin himself and all who adopt his views are
atheists but it means that his theory is
atheistic, that the exclusion of design from
nature is, as Dr. Gray says, tantamount to
atheism. Charles Hodge (1797-1878), What Is
Darwinism?, 1874. (cited from 1994 reprint.)
58What Is Darwinism? AD 1998
Another way to state the proposition is to say
that Darwinism is the answer to a specific
question that grows out of philosophical
naturalism. To return to the game of Jeopardy
with which we started, let us say that Darwinism
is the answer. What, then, is the question? The
question is How must creation have occurred if
we assume that God had nothing to do with
it? Phillip Johnson, What Is Darwinism?,
chapter 2 in Objections Sustained Subversive
Essays on Evolution, Law Culture, 1998, page 33.
59Intelligent Design
- Intelligent design has been given various
labels, almost all of which are unflattering.
Some examples are - 1. born-again creationism
- 2. God-of-the-gaps creationism
- 3. the old creationism dressed up in designer
clothes - 4. creationism in a cheap tuxedo.
- Note that all these include creationism as part
of the label!
60A Catholic Read an Atheist!
- Although Darwin answered this argument directly
in The Origin, it persists so often in modern
forms that in 1986 Richard Dawkins, a prominent
evolutionary biologist from Oxford University,
devoted a whole book to answering it yet again. .
. he called his book The Blind Watchmaker . .
. As Dawkins explained, following Darwin's
lead, the different parts of any complex system,
including an echolocation apparatus, evolve
together in a series of working stages. - Kenneth Miller, Finding Darwin's God, 1999, page
137. (Emphasis as in the original).
61An Atheist Read a Catholic!
- When it comes to supporting science against any
of the varieties of creationism, atheists and
religious people find themselves on common
ground. - The point is well put by Kenneth Miller of Brown
University, for my money the most persuasive
nemesis of intelligent design', not least
because he is a devout Christian. I frequently
recommend Miller's book, Finding Darwin's God, to
religious people who write to me having been
bamboozled by Behe. - Richard Dawkins, The God Delusion, 2006, p. 131.
62God
But, as far as I can tell from my
own observations, most physicists today are not
sufficiently interested in religion even to
qualify as practising atheists. Steven
Weinberg, page 205 in chapter 11, What About
God?, in Dreams of a Final Theory, 1993.
63The Culture of Creationism
- The distinctive characteristic of contemporary
creationists is that they interpret the religious
literature of the Bible as though it were modern
scientific literature in order to reinforce their
religious beliefs. By insisting on the
scientific accuracy of Genesis, even in the face
of overwhelming contrary evidence, they hope to
call upon the prestige of science to support
their beliefs. Thus, ironically, it seems that
these religious people try to build a foundation
for their lives on scientific proof rather than
on religious faith. (emphasis added) - Paul Hollenbach, Creation Belief in the Bible and
Religions, chapter 10 in David B. Wilson (ed.)
Did the Devil make Darwin Do It? Modern
Perspectives on the Creation-Evolution
Controversy, 1983. Page 146.
64And so we say farewell . . .
From Bob Thaves Are We There Yet? A Frank and
Ernest History of the World, 1988.