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Title: Calvinism: a.k.a. doctrine of predestination


1
Calvinism a.k.a. doctrine of predestination
  • Prophet of Calvinism Once Saved, Always Saved
    (OSAS)

2
Opposing Points of Views
  • There are 2 opposing points of views regarding
    the roles in God and man in regards to the
    process of achieving reconciliation (between God
    and man)
  • God predestines His chosen ones to be saved
  • God grants ALL man a free will to choose what he
    wants to be with God (saved) or not be with God

3
Importance of this debate
  • Deu 42 You shall not add to the Word which I
    command you, neither shall you take away from it,
    so that you may keep the commands of Jehovah your
    God which I command you.
  • One of the point of view is true (complies with
    the Words of God)
  • The other CONTRADICTS the Words of God
  • And do you know WHO would love to get you to
    disobey the Words of God ?

4
Predestination Origins
  • Rom 829-30 For those God foreknew he also
    predestined to be conformed to the likeness of
    his Son, that he might be the firstborn among
    many brothers. And those he predestined, he also
    called those he called, he also justified those
    he justified, he also glorified
  • The Predestination concept is part of a larger
    doctrine called Calvinism
  • The Predestination concept has very profound
    theological consequences

5
Calvinism Its core doctrines
  • T - Total depravity
  • U - Unconditional election (or Predestination)
  • L - Limited atonement
  • I - Irresistible grace
  • P - Perseverance of the saints

The last 4 doctrines follows logically if you
accept the (first) doctrine of Total Depravity
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1. Total depravity
  • Man is totally corrupt. Man's thoughts, actions,
    and ambitions are all bad.
  • Man does not have the ability to do what God
    commands him to do (repent).
  • All have sinned, and come short of the glory of
    God (Rom. 323)
  • The wages of sin is death but the gift of God
    is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord
    (Rom. 623).
  • ? Man is DEAD. Dead things cant do anything !!

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2. Unconditional election (Predestination)
  • If you believed the "T" of TULIP, LOGIC
    determines that you must accept the U
  • If man is unable to repent and believe the
    Gospel, then it follows that God must choose some
    for Heaven (and send the rest to Hell).
  • Calvinism teaches that everything that happens
    was planned by God and nothing can be done to
    change it.

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2. Unconditional election (Predestination)
  • Means that God chooses (elects) certain people to
    be saved and go to Heaven.
  • Rom 829-30 For those God foreknew he also
    predestined to be conformed to the likeness of
    his Son, that he might be the firstborn among
    many brothers. And those he predestined, he also
    called those he called, he also justified those
    he justified, he also glorified
  • (The rest are chosen by Him to go to Hell ???)

9
2. Unconditional election (Predestination)
  • Ephesians 14-5 For He chose us in him before
    the creation of the world to be holy and
    blameless in his sight. In love He predestined us
    to be adopted as his sons through Jesus Christ,
    in accordance with his pleasure and will

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3. Limited atonement
  • Meaning Christ only died for certain people.
  • Those He died for will go to Heaven.
  • The rest will go to Hell.
  • Doctrine of Limited Atonement is a logical
    consequence of the Total Depravity
  • Man cannot repent and believe to be saved, so
  • God has predestined who will be saved and who
    will be lost,
  • therefore it is only logical that Christ died
    only for those God has planned to save.

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3. Limited atonement
  • Verses in support of Limited Atonement
  • John 1011 I am the Good Shepherd. The Good
    Shepherd lays down His life for the sheep.
  • John 1513 No one has greater love than this,
    that a man lay down his life for his friends.
  • Act 2028 the church of God which He has
    purchased with His own blood.
  • Eph 525 even as Christ also loved the church
    and gave Himself for it

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4. Irresistible grace
  • The elected is saved and taken them Heaven
    regardless of they like it or not.
  • Ephesians 28 it is by grace you have been
    saved, through faithand this not from
    yourselves, it is the gift of God
  • The sinner is neither capable nor willing to
    receive salvation... The saving grace of God,
    changing the heart of the sinners, precedes the
    sinners will to come to Christ.

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5. Perseverance of the saints
  • Once a person is saved, he will persevere to the
    end.
  • A child of God once saved, cannot be lost.
  • When you are saved, you are born again. You
    cannot become unborn
  • Conclusion of Calvinism

Once Saved Always Saved
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Once Saved, Always Saved - Basis
  • Rom 838-39 For I am convinced that neither
    death nor life, neither angels nor demons,
    neither the present nor the future, nor any
    powers, neither height nor depth, nor anything
    else in all creation, will be able to separate us
    from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our
    Lord.
  • Once we are saved, nothing can separate us from
    the love of God always saved

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Once Saved, Always Saved - Basis
  • John 1028 I give them eternal life, and they
    shall never perish no one can snatch them out of
    my hand.
  • Once we are saved, nothing can separate us from
    the love of God always saved

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The Logic behind Calvinism
  • It all starts with Man is depraved
  • Man is dead in sin. What can dead people do ?
    Nothing !
  • If man cant do anything, everything must be done
    by God.
  • God chooses (predestines) some of us to be saved
  • Since God does the choosing, you cannot do
    anything to become chosen (you are dead,
    remember ?)
  • Then you also cannot do anything to become
    unchosen
  • Conclusion once a child of God, always a child
    of God !

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What do you like to hear ?
  • What would you LIKE to believe ?
  • Once you have been saved, your salvation is
    secure !
  • Or Your sins have been forgiven, BUT sin no
    more !
  • Is OSAS the best idea since sliced bread ?
  • Or is it another lie from the serpent ?
  • Remember the lie "You will not surely die," the
    serpent said to the woman

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-1. Total hereditary depravity
  • Man does not have the ability to do what God
    commands him to do (repent) ?
  • If anyone chooses to do God's will (John 717)
    This is Jesus (God) speaking !
  • Why didnt Jesus (God) say
  • If God makes anyone choose to do Gods will
    ???
  • In fact, God Himself (Jesus) said in John 717
    that anyone has a FREE WILL !!!

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-1. Total hereditary depravity
  • Man does not have the ability to do what God
    commands him to do (repent) ?
  • Acts 101-4 There was a certain man in Caesarea
    called Cornelius, a centurion of the Italian
    Regiment. the angel said to him, "Your prayers
    and your alms have come up for a memorial before
    God.
  • Would God be so happy if He made Cornelius pray ?

20
-1. Total hereditary depravity
  • Man does not have the ability to do what God
    commands him to do (repent) ?
  • Mark 1616 "He who believes and is baptized will
    be saved but he who does not believe will be
    condemned."
  • Man has a choice

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-1. Total hereditary depravity
  • Man does not have the ability to do what God
    commands him to do (repent) ?
  • Matthew 92 Then behold, they brought to Him a
    paralytic lying on a bed. When Jesus saw their
    faith, He said to the paralytic, "Son, be of good
    cheer your sins are forgiven you.
  • Jesus did not say He put the faith in him first !

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-2. Unconditional election (Predestination)
  • Rom 829-30 For those God foreknew he also
    predestined to be conformed to the likeness of
    his Son, that he might be the firstborn among
    many brothers. And those he predestined, he also
    called those he called, he also justified those
    he justified, he also glorified
  • God DID call and predestine some people !
  • But did Paul said God predestined ALL people ?

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God DID predestined SOME people
  • Twelve disciples
  • Mark 1039 Jesus said to them, You will drink
    the cup I drink
  • Paul
  • Acts 915-16 But the Lord said to Ananias, "Go!
    This man is my chosen instrument to carry my name
    before the Gentiles and their kings and before
    the people of Israel. 16I will show him how much
    he must suffer for my name."
  • (God used some people to accomplish His plan)

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Did God predestined ALL people ?
  • Rom 829-30 For those God foreknew he also
    predestined to be conformed to the likeness of
    his Son, that he might be the firstborn among
    many brothers. And those he predestined, he also
    called those he called, he also justified those
    he justified, he also glorified
  • The tense of the verse is PAST TENSE !!!
  • So justification is finished at the time of
    writing so no justification for later believers
    ???
  • Those ? SOME people, not ALL !!!

25
-2. Unconditional election
  • Ephesians 14-5 For He chose us in Him before
    the creation of the world to be holy and
    blameless in His sight. In love He predestined us
    to be adopted as His sons through Jesus Christ,
    in accordance with His pleasure and will
  • Is part of the beginning of the letter (not the
    meat)
  • Sounds like Paul is praising God for his fortune

26
-2. Unconditional election
  • God chooses (elects) certain people to be saved
    and go to Heaven ?
  • Titus 211 For the grace of God that brings
    salvation has appeared to all men.
  • 1 Timothy 23-4 This is good, and pleases God
    our Savior, who wants all men to be saved
  • Also I cannot believe in a loving God who would
    choose some men to be send to hell.

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-3. Limited atonement
  • Christ only died for certain people ?
  • John 336 Whoever believes in the Son has
    eternal life, but whoever rejects the Son will
    not see life, for God's wrath remains on him
  • Not Whoever the Son has died for has eternal
    life,

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-3. Limited atonement
  • Christ only died for certain people ?
  • 1 John 2 He is the atoning sacrifice for our
    sins, and not only for ours but also for the sins
    of the whole world.
  • Not sins of certain people.

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-3. Limited atonement
  • Christ only died for certain people ?
  • Hebrews 29 so that by the grace of God He
    (Jesus) might taste death for everyone.
  • Not might taste death for certain people.

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-4. Irresistible grace
  • The elected is saved and taken them Heaven
    regardless of they like it or not ?
  • Ephesians 28 it is by grace you have been
    saved, through faithand this not from
    yourselves, it is the gift of God
  • It ? Faith ? Faith is a gift of God ?
  • It ? Salvation ? Salvation us a gift of God ?
  • Greek textual analysis grace is a gift of God
    (Salvation through grace is a gift of God) And
    you only receive it through your faith in Jesus

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-4. Irresistible grace
  • The elected is saved and taken them Heaven
    regardless of they like it or not ?
  • Or does man has a free will ?
  • Deut 3017-18 But if your heart turns away and
    you are not obedient, and if you are drawn away
    to bow down to other gods and worship them, I
    declare to you this day that you will certainly
    be destroyed.
  • Does this sound like God forces His will on man ?

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-4. Irresistible grace
  • The elected is saved and taken them Heaven
    regardless of they like it or not ?
  • Or does man has a free will ?
  • Joshua 2415 But if serving the LORD seems
    undesirable to you, then choose for yourselves
    this day whom you will serve
  • Does this sound like God forces His will on man ?

33
-4. Irresistible grace
  • The elected is saved and taken them Heaven
    regardless of they like it or not ?
  • Or does man has a free will ?
  • John 156-7 If anyone does not remain in me, he
    is like a branch that is thrown away and withers
    such branches are picked up, thrown into the fire
    and burned. If you remain in me and my words
    remain in you, ask whatever you wish, and it will
    be given you.
  • Does this sound like God forces His will on man ?

34
-5. Once Saved, Always Saved
  • Rom 838-39 For I am convinced that neither
    death nor life, neither angels nor demons,
    neither the present nor the future, nor any
    powers, neither height nor depth, nor anything
    else in all creation, will be able to separate us
    from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our
    Lord.
  • Bible does not say that you cannot walk away
    from God by your own decision !!!

35
-5. Once Saved, Always Saved
  • John 1028 I give them eternal life, and they
    shall never perish no one can snatch them out of
    my hand.
  • Bible does not say that you cannot walk away
    from God by your own decision

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-5. Once Saved, Always Saved
  • Luke 1512 The younger one said to his father,
    'Father, give me my share of the estate'
  • Nobody snatched this boy from the Father
  • No angel or demon separated this from from the
    Father
  • This boy did it to himself !
  • Free will !!!

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The DANGER of Calvinism
  • Calvinism has led some to believe in a number of
    very dangerous false teachings
  • A number of well-known preachers are spreading a
    dangerous lie known as
  • Once Saved, Always Saved (OSAS)
  • OSAS teaches that once you becomes a believer of
    Christ, you will always be saved no matter what
    you will do in your life

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False teachings of OSAS
  • And so, sometimes out of ignorance or whatever it
    might be, they (believers) attempt to gratify and
    meet those needs the same way they did before
    they were saved, and therefore, you can't tell a
    carnal believer from a lost man. That is, you
    can't tell the cold from the carnal because the
    truth is, they're both acting the same way. Now,
    one of them is in Christ and one of them isn't.
    One of them is lost and the other one is in
    Christ. --- Charles Stanley, Spiritual Vs. Carnal
    -- Study in 1 Cor., Tape 8, PQ092)

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False teachings of OSAS
  • " Eternal Security never gives a license to sin,
    but at the same time sin does not cause us to
    lose our salvation" (Charles Ryrie, So Great
    Salvation, Victor Books, 1989, p. 143).
  • "No matter what you do as a child of God, you are
    forgiven. You say, 'Murder?' Forgiven.
    'Stealing?' Forgiven. 'Adultery?' Forgiven.
    'Worshiping idols?' Forgiven. " --- Charles
    Stanley, Grace God's Second Chance -- Grace and
    Continuing Sin, Tape 4, MC213.

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The Logic of the Lie of OSAS
  • It all starts with the axiom that Man is
    depraved (Man is dead in sin. What can dead
    people do ?)
  • If man cant do anything, everything must be done
    by God. So God must have chosen (predestined)
    some of us to be saved
  • Since the ones saved are chosen by God and only
    God does the choosing, therefore you CANNOT do
    anything to become chosen (you are dead,
    remember ?)
  • If we cant do anything to become chosen, you
    also CANNOT do anything to become unchosen
    (once a child of God, always a child of God)
  • Christians can live like devils and still go to
    heaven !!

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False teachings of OSAS
  • Somebody had heard this kind of great news
    before

The woman said to the serpent, "We may eat fruit
from the trees in the garden, but God did say,
'You must not eat fruit from the tree that is in
the middle of the garden, and you must not touch
it, or you will die.' "   "You will not surely
die," the serpent said to the woman.
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False teachings of OSAS
  • "You will not surely die," the serpent said to
    the woman.
  • God did say, 'You must not eat fruit from the
    tree that is in the middle of the garden, and you
    must not touch it, or you will die.' "
  • Sin does not cause us to lose our salvation
    OSAS said to the Christian.
  • Romans 623 The wages of sin is death

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False teachings of OSAS
  • This may be the worst lie from all of OSAS
    teachings
  • From Charles Stanleys book Eternal Security
    can you be sure ?
  • You and I are not saved because we have enduring
    faith, we are saved because at a moment in time
    we expressed faith in our enduring Lord. (page
    78)
  • Even if a believer for all practical purposes
    becomes an unbeliever, his salvation is not in
    jeopardy. (page 93)
  • believers who lose or abandon their faith will
    retain their salvation .... (page 94)

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False teachings of OSAS
  • You will not surely die," the serpent said to
    the woman.
  • God did say, 'You must not eat fruit from the
    tree that is in the middle of the garden, and you
    must not touch it, or you will die.' "
  • You will not surely die if you disown Jesus
    OSAS said to the Christian.
  • In Matthew 1033, Jesus said whoever disowns me
    before men, I will disown him before my Father in
    heaven

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False teachings of OSAS
Gate to Heaven
  • Wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads
    to destruction, and many enter through it
  • Small is the gate and narrow the road that leads
    to life, and only a few find it.

You can sin
You can deny Jesus
Gate to Heaven
Believe onto Jesus
Sin no more
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Predestination contradicts Gods word
  • Theorem IF predestination is true, then the Word
    of God (Bible) lies (? sin has no effect !)
  • Proof
  • IF predestination is true, then you are either
    predestined to go to heaven or not go to heaven
  • Assuming that you are predestined to go to
    heaven, then you can sin all you want, and you
    will still go to heaven
  • Assuming that you are predestined not to go to
    heaven, then it does not matter and you can sin
    all you want. So either way, sin has no effect !

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Concluding Remarks
  • Believing in Predestination will not get you to
    heaven nor get you to hell only the blood of
    Jesus can do that
  • BUT what you DO after you believe in
    Predestination (and in Jesus) WILL send you to
    heaven or to hell
  • 1Co 69 Do you not know that the unrighteous
    shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be
    deceived neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor
    adulterers, nor abusers, nor homosexuals, nor
    thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor
    revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the
    kingdom of God.
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