Title: Beyond the Scores: Clues to neuropsychological disorders from the things patients say and do
1Beyond the ScoresClues to neuropsychological
disorders from the things patients say and do
- Karalyn Patterson
- MRC Cognition Brain Sciences Unit
- Cambridge UK
- Moss Rehab, September 2009
2Unusual talk Examples of things patients say and
do in real life or in clinic or in testing that
are informative about the impaired abilities
- Made possible by seeing patients and their
families in clinic
3Structure of each example
- 1. Context What was happening at the time?
- 2. Observation What did patient say or do in
response? - 3. Message What can we learn from response?
- 4. Sometimes Formal testing that corroborates
this message - Formal/informal messages not discrepant!
- But such observations can encapsulate a point or
serve to direct further research - 5. Sometimes Why is this behaviour a puzzle,
or what questions does it raise?
4PatientsMainly semantic dementia (SD)Some
semantically impaired cases with Alzheimers
disease (AD)
5SD Central semantic/conceptual disorder
- ? Affects all modalities of input/output
- ? Affects virtually all forms of knowledge
- ? Apparent order of severity
- expressive language worst
- receptive language
- object recognition/use
- but probably explicable by task demands and
nature of peripheral-central mappings
box
fox
6Context Please name this
- Response (PS) Its a horse, aint it?
- Then pointing to stripes But what are these
funny things for? - Message
- The anomia in SD is not word-finding difficulty
- Formal Testing High degree of consistency across
occasions and types of testing
7Context AM and his wife get out of their car in
the pouring rain, she hands him an umbrella
- Observation reported later by wife
- He holds the umbrella above his head horizontally
and without opening it - Messages
- 1. SD is not a language disorder!
- 2. Deterioration of semantic memory is graded and
partial
8Context Bruce and his wife driving through the
countryside to visit friend after gap of years
- Observation reported later by wife
- (a) Bruce to wife You have to turn into that
small place up ahead Correct and wife
surprised. Then a few minutes later - (b) Bruce to wife what are those things?
pointing to sheep in field - Messages/questions
- 1. Selectivity of disorder visuospatial skills
and this aspect of episodic memory unaffected - 2. Profound agnosia/anomia
- 3. horse vs what is that?
9Context object/concept definitionsWhats a
seahorse?
- Response (AM) I didnt know they had horses in
the sea - Message Deterioration of knowledge is strongly
predicted by familiarity /or age of acquisition
and by typicality - Formal Testing everything!
10Context naming pictures of animals
- Responses (DG)
- dog, cat, horse -gt correct
- pig, squirrel, sheep, deer, goat, fox etc -gt
dog - mouse, rabbit, monkey -gt cat
- lion, zebra, rhino, bear -gt horse
- seahorse -gt little thing
- fish, frog -gt dont know
- Message
- Typicality not only predicts which responses will
be correct, but also nature of errors
11Context naming pictures of animals
- Responses (DG)
- mouse, rabbit, monkey -gt cat
- pig, sheep, deer, goat, kangaroo -gt dog
- rhino, lion, zebra, bear -gt horse
- Message Errors partially respect true size
- Puzzle Is the size information in the stimulus
or in the patient?
12Context Conversation in clinic
- JRH How do you spend your time during the days?
- AT Im very good at these eleven thousand..
Things which you put all together to make - Message Selectivity of disorder again
- Question What combination of factors makes this
activity so well suited to the remaining
abilities in SD? - Talking to AN about jigsaw he was currently
doing - JRH Whats it a picture of?
- AN I dont know, I didnt look.
13Context After AT has done and been praised for
some correct mental arithmetic
- Response (AT) Yes, that seems to work okay,
thats the odd thing, not everything is off but
some things are so awful and yet other things
will look all right - Message Selectivity of the disorder again
- Some interesting Qs
- Why are numbers special?
- What aspects of number knowledge are preserved in
SD? - Is good digit span attributable to content?
14Contrast semantically impaired AD patients
Context Informal assessment in clinic
- JRH If you ordered a pint of beer in the pub,
and it cost 2.50, and you gave the barman 10,
how much change would you get? - DCJ Oh, I wouldnt give as much as that!
- JRH Okay, suppose the beer costs 2.50 and you
give him 5 - DCJ I dont drink beer
-
- JRH How long have you been on your own? JC is
divorced - JC Oh, have I got to go back about 3,000
years? - JRH When is your birthday?
- JC I forget I wish you people had told me
before I got here... - JRH Let me put it another way what year were
you born? - JC Well, I wasnt very old at the time, so I
didnt sort of get it - Message AD patients worse than SD at number
skills - but pretty good at trying to get round the
questions!
15 Context Please name this
- AM Its in that country down in Africa... in
the upper right-hand corner I can show you on my
thing over there - Message
- Some preservation of geographical knowledge?
- Puzzle Why?
16Context Conversation or informal assessment in
Clinic
- JRH Where does your daughter work?
- AT At the University of er starts with an M,
the big important one in the north of England -
- JRH Whos the US president? in 2005
- AN Its such a short name I dont know does
it begin with B? - Message Sometimes preservation of initial letter
or sound knowledge - Why is this a puzzle? Because SD patients benefit
so little from phonological cueing
17Context Conversations in clinic
- IF talking about his current difficulties
- Well, some of my friends have given myself away
from them, because I cant talk to them - JW talking about the pub where he has his
meals Its very nice, and the steak-and-kidney
pie is only 4 JRH Do you always have that?
JW Not every day, but ever such a lot... I do
have other ones you know what they put certain
things up - JB difficulties I want to say you right now
that this is whats wrong - Question Is syntax really independent of
semantics?
18Context Conversation in Clinic, JRH has just
asked about patients problems
- Response (AC) Im playing golf next week, for
example, er... in an annual syndicate
competition we have with people I used to, er...
work with, and at the moment, I cant remember a
single name of them - Message Impact of concept level
- Usually in SD, general gt intermediate gt specific
- What could be more specific than individual
people and their names? - Some interesting Qs
- Problem naming or knowing?
- Just specificity effect or are people special?
- LgtR vs. RgtL temporal abnormality
19Context Reports from wives of 3 male SD patients
- One patient started to ask his wife What is this
funny stuff that keeps growing on my face? - Two patients continued to shave their faces but
also began to shave hair on other parts of their
bodies - Messages
- (a) Beards are at a very specific level of the
sem syst! - (b) One major function of semantic memory is
generalisation and differentiation. When
semantics deteriorate, not only knowledge e.g.
about hair declines, but the ability to
differentiate between different forms/locations
of hair
20Context Patient being tested on CatFlu
- DC Please tell me the names of as many animals
as you can think of - LF dog, cat Claude died 3 weeks ago...
their dog - Message
- Recent autobiographical events not only salient
for SD patients but invade their semantic memory
21Context Conversation in Clinic
- JRH What do you do in the day?
- IB I take our dog for a walk
- JRH What kind of dog do you have?
- IB A Rhodesian Ridgeback
- JRH Do you have any cats?
- IB Cats cats Im not sure what those are
- Message Facilitation -- even of LoFreq items --
from personal exposure/familiarity/ usage - Needs to be recent and regular surgeon poor
naming/matching of surgical instruments chemist
could not define element psychiatrist
regularised Jung, Freud placebo in reading
aloud - Question Impact on what?
22Context Conversation followed by Definitions
- JRH What sort of work did you do?
- BH I commanded a team on bulk petroleum
- 5-10 minutes later
- JRH petroleum, can you say that? BH can and
does - JRH What is petroleum?
- BH .. then hesitantly Something that uses
petrol?
- DV talking about his big trees with something
on them to eat But last year we didnt have
anything on 4 of the trees, because we had a late
frost - 5-10 minutes later
- JRH What does frost mean? DV Frost frost
whats that? - Message
- (a) Lack of generalisation between contexts
- (b) Words they use frequently can mislead!
23Best example yet in domain of language
- IB talking about a big football match involving
the team he supports - IB Its wonderful, my friend, to have a 60
minute entertainment, and if your team wins or
loses, youll be euphoric or suicidal, but by the
next day then 5-10 minutes later - KP Mr B, what does euphoric mean?
- IB Phoric phoric I like to phoric?
- euphoric you phoric!
24Facilitation by recent, regular, specific
experience not confined to words
- Sudoku
- Example courtesy of Raquel Sanchez, Barcelona
25Context Conversation before testing
- As PP comes into the testing room and her husband
disappears off down the corridor - PP When is she coming back?
- Message Disintegration of sex/gender knowledge
- Question Is it sex or gender?
- Puzzle either way, since both seem so very
fundamental
26Context 2pm at home, JL is impatient to go to
dinner at Chinese restaurant
- Observation reported later by Mrs L
- JL Cant we go out to eat now?
- Mrs L Darling, not yet! Then pointing to the
kitchen wall-clock We go at 7pm. - A little later, she returns to find JL standing
on the kitchen table moving hands of clock to
700. - Message Partial knowledge again
- Why a puzzle?
- Such an striking combination of understanding and
not-understanding
27Summary 1 Phenomena that we understand, or at
least have hypotheses about
- Selectivity of disorder
- Graded nature of deterioration
- Profound anomia ? WFD
- Good number skills
- Typicality effects rampant
- Specificity or levels effect
- Invasion of semantic memory by autobiographical
28Summary 2 Phenomena that we are still groping to
understand
- Deterioration of gender/sex knowledge
- Relationship between semantics and syntax
- Problem with people their names just
specificity? - Occasional partial phonological/1st-letter
knowledge - (a) just more semantics? (b) proper names?
- Partial geographical and size knowledge
- Lack of generalisation/words in context vs.
isolation - Benefit of personal exposure
- (a) on what? (b) expertise
- Mixture of understanding and not clock example
29My thanks.
- To John Hodges and Kate Dawson at the Cambridge
Specialist Dementia Clinic, and to the patients
and their carers, for allowing me these
opportunities to observe - To you, for listening and I hope discussing