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Title: Beyond the Scores: Clues to neuropsychological disorders from the things patients say and do


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Beyond the ScoresClues to neuropsychological
disorders from the things patients say and do
  • Karalyn Patterson
  • MRC Cognition Brain Sciences Unit
  • Cambridge UK
  • Moss Rehab, September 2009

2
Unusual talk Examples of things patients say and
do in real life or in clinic or in testing that
are informative about the impaired abilities
  • Made possible by seeing patients and their
    families in clinic

3
Structure of each example
  • 1. Context What was happening at the time?
  • 2. Observation What did patient say or do in
    response?
  • 3. Message What can we learn from response?
  • 4. Sometimes Formal testing that corroborates
    this message
  • Formal/informal messages not discrepant!
  • But such observations can encapsulate a point or
    serve to direct further research
  • 5. Sometimes Why is this behaviour a puzzle,
    or what questions does it raise?

4
PatientsMainly semantic dementia (SD)Some
semantically impaired cases with Alzheimers
disease (AD)
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SD Central semantic/conceptual disorder
  • ? Affects all modalities of input/output
  • ? Affects virtually all forms of knowledge
  • ? Apparent order of severity
  • expressive language worst
  • receptive language
  • object recognition/use
  • but probably explicable by task demands and
    nature of peripheral-central mappings

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Context Please name this
  • Response (PS) Its a horse, aint it?
  • Then pointing to stripes But what are these
    funny things for?
  • Message
  • The anomia in SD is not word-finding difficulty
  • Formal Testing High degree of consistency across
    occasions and types of testing

7
Context AM and his wife get out of their car in
the pouring rain, she hands him an umbrella
  • Observation reported later by wife
  • He holds the umbrella above his head horizontally
    and without opening it
  • Messages
  • 1. SD is not a language disorder!
  • 2. Deterioration of semantic memory is graded and
    partial

8
Context Bruce and his wife driving through the
countryside to visit friend after gap of years
  • Observation reported later by wife
  • (a) Bruce to wife You have to turn into that
    small place up ahead Correct and wife
    surprised. Then a few minutes later
  • (b) Bruce to wife what are those things?
    pointing to sheep in field
  • Messages/questions
  • 1. Selectivity of disorder visuospatial skills
    and this aspect of episodic memory unaffected
  • 2. Profound agnosia/anomia
  • 3. horse vs what is that?

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Context object/concept definitionsWhats a
seahorse?
  • Response (AM) I didnt know they had horses in
    the sea
  • Message Deterioration of knowledge is strongly
    predicted by familiarity /or age of acquisition
    and by typicality
  • Formal Testing everything!

10
Context naming pictures of animals
  • Responses (DG)
  • dog, cat, horse -gt correct
  • pig, squirrel, sheep, deer, goat, fox etc -gt
    dog
  • mouse, rabbit, monkey -gt cat
  • lion, zebra, rhino, bear -gt horse
  • seahorse -gt little thing
  • fish, frog -gt dont know
  • Message
  • Typicality not only predicts which responses will
    be correct, but also nature of errors

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Context naming pictures of animals
  • Responses (DG)
  • mouse, rabbit, monkey -gt cat
  • pig, sheep, deer, goat, kangaroo -gt dog
  • rhino, lion, zebra, bear -gt horse
  • Message Errors partially respect true size
  • Puzzle Is the size information in the stimulus
    or in the patient?

12
Context Conversation in clinic
  • JRH How do you spend your time during the days?
  • AT Im very good at these eleven thousand..
    Things which you put all together to make
  • Message Selectivity of disorder again
  • Question What combination of factors makes this
    activity so well suited to the remaining
    abilities in SD?
  • Talking to AN about jigsaw he was currently
    doing
  • JRH Whats it a picture of?
  • AN I dont know, I didnt look.

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Context After AT has done and been praised for
some correct mental arithmetic
  • Response (AT) Yes, that seems to work okay,
    thats the odd thing, not everything is off but
    some things are so awful and yet other things
    will look all right
  • Message Selectivity of the disorder again
  • Some interesting Qs
  • Why are numbers special?
  • What aspects of number knowledge are preserved in
    SD?
  • Is good digit span attributable to content?

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Contrast semantically impaired AD patients
Context Informal assessment in clinic
  • JRH If you ordered a pint of beer in the pub,
    and it cost 2.50, and you gave the barman 10,
    how much change would you get?
  • DCJ Oh, I wouldnt give as much as that!
  • JRH Okay, suppose the beer costs 2.50 and you
    give him 5
  • DCJ I dont drink beer
  • JRH How long have you been on your own? JC is
    divorced
  • JC Oh, have I got to go back about 3,000
    years?
  • JRH When is your birthday?
  • JC I forget I wish you people had told me
    before I got here...
  • JRH Let me put it another way what year were
    you born?
  • JC Well, I wasnt very old at the time, so I
    didnt sort of get it
  • Message AD patients worse than SD at number
    skills
  • but pretty good at trying to get round the
    questions!

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Context Please name this
  • AM Its in that country down in Africa... in
    the upper right-hand corner I can show you on my
    thing over there
  • Message
  • Some preservation of geographical knowledge?
  • Puzzle Why?

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Context Conversation or informal assessment in
Clinic
  • JRH Where does your daughter work?
  • AT At the University of er starts with an M,
    the big important one in the north of England
  • JRH Whos the US president? in 2005
  • AN Its such a short name I dont know does
    it begin with B?
  • Message Sometimes preservation of initial letter
    or sound knowledge
  • Why is this a puzzle? Because SD patients benefit
    so little from phonological cueing

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Context Conversations in clinic
  • IF talking about his current difficulties
  • Well, some of my friends have given myself away
    from them, because I cant talk to them
  • JW talking about the pub where he has his
    meals Its very nice, and the steak-and-kidney
    pie is only 4 JRH Do you always have that?
    JW Not every day, but ever such a lot... I do
    have other ones you know what they put certain
    things up
  • JB difficulties I want to say you right now
    that this is whats wrong
  • Question Is syntax really independent of
    semantics?

18
Context Conversation in Clinic, JRH has just
asked about patients problems
  • Response (AC) Im playing golf next week, for
    example, er... in an annual syndicate
    competition we have with people I used to, er...
    work with, and at the moment, I cant remember a
    single name of them
  • Message Impact of concept level
  • Usually in SD, general gt intermediate gt specific
  • What could be more specific than individual
    people and their names?
  • Some interesting Qs
  • Problem naming or knowing?
  • Just specificity effect or are people special?
  • LgtR vs. RgtL temporal abnormality

19
Context Reports from wives of 3 male SD patients
  • One patient started to ask his wife What is this
    funny stuff that keeps growing on my face?
  • Two patients continued to shave their faces but
    also began to shave hair on other parts of their
    bodies
  • Messages
  • (a) Beards are at a very specific level of the
    sem syst!
  • (b) One major function of semantic memory is
    generalisation and differentiation. When
    semantics deteriorate, not only knowledge e.g.
    about hair declines, but the ability to
    differentiate between different forms/locations
    of hair

20
Context Patient being tested on CatFlu
  • DC Please tell me the names of as many animals
    as you can think of
  • LF dog, cat Claude died 3 weeks ago...
    their dog
  • Message
  • Recent autobiographical events not only salient
    for SD patients but invade their semantic memory

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Context Conversation in Clinic
  • JRH What do you do in the day?
  • IB I take our dog for a walk
  • JRH What kind of dog do you have?
  • IB A Rhodesian Ridgeback
  • JRH Do you have any cats?
  • IB Cats cats Im not sure what those are
  • Message Facilitation -- even of LoFreq items --
    from personal exposure/familiarity/ usage
  • Needs to be recent and regular surgeon poor
    naming/matching of surgical instruments chemist
    could not define element psychiatrist
    regularised Jung, Freud placebo in reading
    aloud
  • Question Impact on what?

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Context Conversation followed by Definitions
  • JRH What sort of work did you do?
  • BH I commanded a team on bulk petroleum
  • 5-10 minutes later
  • JRH petroleum, can you say that? BH can and
    does
  • JRH What is petroleum?
  • BH .. then hesitantly Something that uses
    petrol?

  • DV talking about his big trees with something
    on them to eat But last year we didnt have
    anything on 4 of the trees, because we had a late
    frost
  • 5-10 minutes later
  • JRH What does frost mean? DV Frost frost
    whats that?
  • Message
  • (a) Lack of generalisation between contexts
  • (b) Words they use frequently can mislead!

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Best example yet in domain of language
  • IB talking about a big football match involving
    the team he supports
  • IB Its wonderful, my friend, to have a 60
    minute entertainment, and if your team wins or
    loses, youll be euphoric or suicidal, but by the
    next day then 5-10 minutes later
  • KP Mr B, what does euphoric mean?
  • IB Phoric phoric I like to phoric?
  • euphoric you phoric!

24
Facilitation by recent, regular, specific
experience not confined to words
  • Sudoku
  • Example courtesy of Raquel Sanchez, Barcelona

25
Context Conversation before testing
  • As PP comes into the testing room and her husband
    disappears off down the corridor
  • PP When is she coming back?
  • Message Disintegration of sex/gender knowledge
  • Question Is it sex or gender?
  • Puzzle either way, since both seem so very
    fundamental

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Context 2pm at home, JL is impatient to go to
dinner at Chinese restaurant
  • Observation reported later by Mrs L
  • JL Cant we go out to eat now?
  • Mrs L Darling, not yet! Then pointing to the
    kitchen wall-clock We go at 7pm.
  • A little later, she returns to find JL standing
    on the kitchen table moving hands of clock to
    700.
  • Message Partial knowledge again
  • Why a puzzle?
  • Such an striking combination of understanding and
    not-understanding

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Summary 1 Phenomena that we understand, or at
least have hypotheses about
  • Selectivity of disorder
  • Graded nature of deterioration
  • Profound anomia ? WFD
  • Good number skills
  • Typicality effects rampant
  • Specificity or levels effect
  • Invasion of semantic memory by autobiographical

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Summary 2 Phenomena that we are still groping to
understand
  • Deterioration of gender/sex knowledge
  • Relationship between semantics and syntax
  • Problem with people their names just
    specificity?
  • Occasional partial phonological/1st-letter
    knowledge
  • (a) just more semantics? (b) proper names?
  • Partial geographical and size knowledge
  • Lack of generalisation/words in context vs.
    isolation
  • Benefit of personal exposure
  • (a) on what? (b) expertise
  • Mixture of understanding and not clock example

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My thanks.
  • To John Hodges and Kate Dawson at the Cambridge
    Specialist Dementia Clinic, and to the patients
    and their carers, for allowing me these
    opportunities to observe
  • To you, for listening and I hope discussing
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